The Awkward Silence

ankii

00:11

Today I Learnt (TIL) that LaTeX is so much better than Acrobat, Word and Illustrator.

sorry for weird capitals Ælis

@ExtrovertedMainMan please don't close it..

AGirlHasNoName

00:35

Ælis

05:34

@ankii I feel like this question is lacking a bit of details right now. But this answer, arg

ankii

@Ælis normally when there's a DV, I become reluctant to comment, but this had to be commented upon

Ælis

@ankii For those kinds of situation, I find it generally simplier/better to ask for external sources. These, you don't have a pointless argument about "everyone know that" and "it's commun sense"

ankii

Also this is just inverse question of this

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Q: How to talk about my comfortable lifestyle without sounding like I'm bragging?

Most of my friends have gone down the marriage with 2.4 kids route. Great for them but it does eat most of their time/money. Not having done that, I can afford a decent house, to have a couple of holidays each year, and to spend money on luxuries. Sometimes when they ask what I have been up to,...

Ælis

@ankii Maybe you could put a "related" comment under OP question then?

Also, nice new dog picture!

ankii

yeah. Dumbo is very photogenic..

Ælis

05:43

Also, also, when do you sleep? You were here when I go to bed and you are here when I wake up @ankii :p

@ankii For a second, I wonder why you were talking to me about an elephant and what was his link to the conversation xD

ankii

@Ælis I might not.. before close votes reach 3. OP is on just opposite end of the spectrum

Ælis

@ankii Doesn't mean the advice on this old one can't help him. But do as you feel :)

ankii

I am yet to watch that movie.. might do this weekend

Ælis

@ankii I didn't see the movie either, just the old animated movie

ankii

I have to write a non plagiarised paper by looking at an old research paper

Trying to submit it before 12 hours(deadline)

So didn't sleep last night

Otherwise, the bedtimes would be close.

Ælis

05:47

@ankii Ouch :/ You might still want to take a nap though. The brain works better when it's well rested

Also, a very good luck with your paper!

ankii

I slept for 2 hours before that.. And then took 2 coffees

so I'd be fine for another 6-7 hours

And thanks!

Not a big deal really, just paraphrasing it from a lecture and wikipedia

Latex is lovely though!

Ælis

@ankii Still sounds very boring :p

ankii

oh you got it very right...

I don't like what I am majoring in either.

But that's another day's topic

will be around!

Ælis

See you!

Also, have some cute dogs to help you go thought that @ankii

ankii

They don't last in front of Dumbo and Speaker do they? ^^

But yeah, they are so small <3 <3

Ælis

05:53

Dumbo does look very cute :D

Ælis

06:05

This "only one flag per post" is annoying >< Also, it's Monday, where are all the mods??? We need help here (cc: @avazula @Tinkeringbell )

JAD

It's monday morning, give them some time to wake up

Ælis

@JAD They are usually awake before me, this is very unsettling

:p

To be fair, I usually don't wake up so early. This is very unsettling :p

avazula

06:34

@Ælis I already flagged and DVed.

Ælis

06:44

@avazula And you don't want to delete? I already put my delete on this, I don't think it would be such a big deal if we were to delete it with only two people instead of three (but it's your powers, I understant if you don't want to be accused of abusing them)

avazula

06:55

@Ælis We'll see if it's still here in an hour, but I doubt that

A J

Afternoon!

Feeds

Hello @Ælis!

Ælis

@Feeds This feels weird ^^

A J

How about now? :P

Ælis

xD

@AJ Also, hello, time-travelling friend (if you are in the afternoon and I'm in the morning, you must be time-travelling, aren't you?) :p

A J

07:07

(tries hard to keep it secret ) No!

Tinkeringbell

Good morning :)

A J

good Afternoon!

Tinkeringbell

@Ælis Looks like you're doing fine there :)

So I'm going to get a coffee before standup :)

A J

@Tinkeringbell If you are not gonna stand, then how you are supposed to be going to get coffee? ;P

Tinkeringbell

Oh, I usually get a coworker to push my desk chair over to the machine

A J

07:14

lol

Ælis

@Tinkeringbell I guess my brain tends to see urgency and fire everywhere nowadays :/

A J

@Ælis Patience, Ælis, patience!

Ælis

@AJ "Pa-what?" No idea where to find those :p

A J

eBay or Amazon. :P

Ankit Sharma

@AJ ::facepalm::

Ælis

07:22

@AJ Nah, I don't like buying stuff there, it tooks too much time before getting delivered :p

A J

@AnkitSharma o/ What brings you here or you just came to facepalm? :P

Ankit Sharma

@AJ Just wanted to say I am not sure about tagging so left for others to edit it.

Rest you can catch me on screening room :P

A J

sure

Ankit Sharma

And some meta for you to see there :/

Extroverted Main Man

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Q: How to initiate a conversation with a person who recently had transition but you were not in touch with them?

I had a family friend/classmate/neighbor who I am not in touch with for more than a decade and we were never friends but on friendly terms in childhood. Two years back I got to know that she had a transition from male to female and it didn't go well with her family, relatives, etc. Even within my...

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Tinkeringbell

07:37

@Ælis Breathe in, breathe out. Make sure you position yourself in such a way that both your face and behind feel comfortably warm but don't get burned! :)

Oh... and don't inhale too much of the smoke, it's bad for you :)

CaldeiraG

07:52

Morning :)

CaldeiraG

08:14

@ExtrovertedMainMan Wait a minute, I read that same question on Friday

What magic is that? :p

Tinkeringbell

@CaldeiraG Sandbox vs main ;)

CaldeiraG

08:32

Oh right!

I did not do my homework :D

Alex Robinson

08:54

i was about to say the same thing lol

avazula

09:08

Ha, homework... that's way behind me :p

ankii

10:14

who knew that transmission wires could crosstalk? they must be having buzzing talks, no?

CaldeiraG

@ankii xD

oops

flag-aic interpersonal.stackexchange.com/questions/20668/…

@ankii Oh, you have a different doggo pic :)

AGirlHasNoName

Morning

ankii

yup.. This was posted here already.. and its cuter. ^^

Afternoon!

Oh man.. Some developers just don't make it clear... "All that needs to be done is to hook this system to that system".

As if I didn't know this.

CaldeiraG

10:37

@ankii Sure it is :D

OldPadawan

Hi there;)

CaldeiraG

@AGirlHasNoName Morning-ish, almost midday here

One thing I noticed is that even you hide a certain account on the Network profile, if you go the reputation tab, it shows the hidden account (cc @Ælis)

Tinkeringbell

@CaldeiraG Yeah, 'hidden' accounts are pretty broken. :(

The best thing we can do is act like we don't know them when interacting outside this room :P

(And that we don't know they have hidden profiles)

AGirlHasNoName

11:03

Yeah the hidden profile thing is really just for casual observers.

CaldeiraG

11:44

@Tinkeringbell :(

Extroverted Main Man

13:28

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Q: 36y me, 30y wife, a screwed up life, low confidence, and heavy feelings for someone at work

I need help. I don't know what to do. I'm 36, married, from India, recently moved to Sydney. I just wish there is someone out there, reading this, and wanting to help me. Below, is a big text, and has everything I want you guys to know before answering my question. I sorry it is long. I am start...

relationships self-esteem

ankii

@ExtrovertedMainMan aw a fellow Indian.. I could edit it after 2-3 hours. go ahead if someone's saving me the trouble :)

JAD

13:42

That title smells like a life-advice question

Tinkeringbell

@JAD It probably is :(

(can't access the pastebin here)

Rainbacon

Hmm

"SE blocks my post as spam, so I wrote it somewhere else and am linking to it"

JAD

@Rainbacon to be fair, it's not spam. So assuming it's a genuine question, I wouldn't blame them for that tbh

Rainbacon

13:59

@JAD While that appears to be true based on reading it, I wouldn't expect the average user to click on the pastebin link and read through it

Also, we should probably help them figure out how to get it into a workable shape for the site

JAD

@Rainbacon oh no, it's by no means a good question

Extroverted Main Man

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Q: How to deal with my mom's insistence that eight people are harassing her, even though there's no actual evidence?

I'm 26, female, moved back in with mom and dad in April after a breakup with my ex-girlfriend (the relationship ended as she got a job elsewhere... I couldn't afford to live in NYC, but she could). I live in a large town in Texas. For the past few weeks (well, since early August) my mom has been...

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Ælis

14:18

@AGirlHasNoName How I feel today (it's mostly only targetted at the people who want to argue in comment, though):

219 Get Set Go - I Hate Everyone

►

Also, maybe probably I should stop talking about MSE

Let's have some kitten instead:

AGirlHasNoName

14:40

@Ælis <3

Ælis

15:05

@Tinkeringbell Since it's now clear I won't answer your question, I have this for you:

https://interpersonal.stackexchange.com/questions/23027/what-techniques-are-proven-ways-to-fix-an-unbalance-between-levels-of-benevolenc

https://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2017/06/19/compliments-are-good-for-your-health-but-not-if-theyre-fake_a_22488747/

https://englishwithkim.com/giving-compliments/

> Here are some guidelines for giving compliments:

- Be specific

- Don’t overdo it

- Use appropriate tone

https://www.happify.com/hd/learn-to-give-genuine-compliments/

Culture and complimenting, the differencies:

Rainbacon

@Ælis These seem like good sources. Is there a specific reason that you won't answer Tink's question?

Ælis

@Rainbacon I feel they are still don't answer her main question :/ Also, I probably could find something good with a little more digging but I'm not interested in that anymore. Feel free to you use them, though

Rainbacon

Perhaps they don't, I didn't fully read all of them, but I might give it a shot later

I had a 3rd round of interviews with a company over a week ago, and I still haven't heard anything back from them. They mentioned that they had a couple more interviews to run though, but I'm starting to get nervous

Ælis

15:27

Oh crap, this is a really bad time for this sort of NHQ /me scare

@Rainbacon :/ I don't know what it's the etiquette in the USA, but in France, after a week, it's perfectly acceptable to ask for update

Rainbacon

Yeah, there's certainly some potential trouble that could come with that post, but so far, OldPadawan's answer is excellent

Ælis

Yes, but I'm afraid of all the trolls that are currently hanging around in the network just waiting for an opportunity like that

I just posted EmC notice, it might help reduce the noise

Tinkeringbell

15:47

@Ælis I just got a notification an answer was posted. I'll review that tonight :)

Ælis

@Tinkeringbell Not sure the answer you got is up to your critera. It's not really detail (but I haven't read it, though)

AGirlHasNoName

17:00

@user58 thanks for sticking up for me.

AGirlHasNoName

17:20

Okay I need to stop

user58

Probably not worth engaging at this point

...I go to eat and things explode

AGirlHasNoName

yeah no I am backing off now.

Hopefully the whole thing gets cleaned up.

I keep falling for the bait and it makes me feel embarassed.

:[

@Ælis We have been posting a lot of pictures of cats lately, but I wanted to add one of a catgirl:

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El'endia Starman

[checks room name] ...huh, this ain't the Maid Cafe.

user58

17:36

We could post more anime pictures and fool people, though

TheTinyMan

I approve, cat pictures are awesome but catgirl pictures are even better!

Also morning room! :D

oh, wait, it's the afternoon now even here.

user58

evenin'

AGirlHasNoName

afternoon from me too

TheTinyMan

I also approve of the subtle LGBTness there :)

AGirlHasNoName

hey I just blocked my first chaser acount on Twitter w00t

subtle?

TheTinyMan

17:39

It's subtle because I'm bad at remembering flags. ;) But maybe not because I actually remembered this one?

AGirlHasNoName

ohh yeah I have to look the flags up.

user58

Yeah that's hardly subtle

AGirlHasNoName

Im wearing a bracelet of that one though so I remember it.

user58

I know some of the flags. If you remember what the colors generally stand for, you can figure them out

Anyway, that's not subtle. You want subtle, look at this picture @avazula drew of me:

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Ælis

@AGirlHasNoName Ooooh, this one is verey, very cute <3

user58

17:48

(also just look at it. like in general.)

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TheTinyMan

But that one is a literal flag!

Also it IS super cute, and I am happy that I get an opportunity to look at it!

Ælis

@user58 +1 For that!

AGirlHasNoName

18:00

@user58 oh that is subtle. I always liked that.

AGirlHasNoName

18:15

@user58 you know they're trying to tie is up ~~now~~

user58

yep

AGirlHasNoName

I wish it didn't work :(

ankii

Finally did the paper. Plagiarism =13 % < 24 % yay!

tex.SE was heaven for the assignment!

Tinkeringbell

18:52

@user58 Yay! I can star that again

Tinkeringbell

19:09

@AGirlHasNoName I'm... going to suggest a teeny-tiny MSE break. Some of your latest comments aren't doing you favours :)

But we can chat here ;) Did anything fun, besides making even more avatars? :)

AGirlHasNoName

19:28

@Tinkeringbell Because I'm angry and insulted and having people upvote answers that tell me that my fears are invalid when i've laid them out in excruciating detail on numerous occasions and only then have someone else compare being afraid of bigots(who actually go around killing people like me) to being afraid of insects makes my blood boil!!! ~~/rant~~

Tinkeringbell

@AGirlHasNoName I understand. But it would be so, so very very sad if these people succeed in getting people like you off the site, because they managed to piss you off to the point of breaking the CoC yourself :(

AGirlHasNoName

I'm being scoffed at, mocked, ridiculed, and derided and then when I get emotional it is used against me. I have been painstakingly holding back my emotions and being as objective as I can but it keeps getting cloudier and cloudier

Ælis

@AGirlHasNoName Not sure, you have seen it, so here you go: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/52222137#52222137 (also lots of love and support to you <3 )

Tinkeringbell

@AGirlHasNoName 'when I get emotional it is used against me' > Sadly, yes :( But as a mod, I can't just excuse one side as 'only emotional' without the other side being able to lay claim to the same favours :(

AGirlHasNoName

@Ælis <3<3<3<3

Ælis

19:31

@AGirlHasNoName <3 <3 <3

AGirlHasNoName

@Tinkeringbell I know. I was already planning to make that my last post on MSE. In fact I had planned to stop before that but I know that user from over at Writing and I have seen her put up with a lot of abuse over there so I wanted to answer her.

Extroverted Main Man

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Q: An Unusual Gratitude

TLDR; This is a very unusual communication conundrum that I have struggled with for some time now. It is about an unusual connection (or so I thought) I made with a girl. She is a friend of an old crush of mine. She did something once, which unwittingly helped me. I want to thank her for that. B...

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Tinkeringbell

@AGirlHasNoName You're a bit too kind for this world, you know that, right? :) <3

Ælis

@Tinkeringbell It's a good thing I'm not a dev at SE Inc. If it were up to me, I would completely disallow the comment function on MSE for as long as necessary (like, at least two weeks)

Tinkeringbell

@Ælis Sounds like a plan :-)

AGirlHasNoName

19:33

@Ælis to be fair I have been using comments to argue against people who post nasty questions

Rainbacon

@Ælis I mean, if it were up to Shog, I think that would be done

Ælis

@AGirlHasNoName Then I would encourage you to write an answer instead ^^

AGirlHasNoName

If I were a mod I'd be nuking everything from orbit

Ælis

^ that

AGirlHasNoName

@Tinkeringbell That's an extremely nice thing to say to me. Thank you.

Tinkeringbell

19:35

@AGirlHasNoName Working on it. But I can't do miracles :) People have been handling flags like crazy, yet sometimes I handle three and the counter actually goes up :(

AGirlHasNoName

Now I am going to walk away from MSE and hope that the people who need to see what I wrote do see it.

And anything that gets added is for others to stand up to. Im out of gas.

Tinkeringbell

Take some time, get a good refill. There's probably (SADLY!) plenty left next week :(

AGirlHasNoName

@Tinkeringbell I can tell. My answer was cleared out multiple times. I've been apart of many of the purges. Seen many others.

Ælis

@Tinkeringbell Isn't there an announcement planned for tomorrow?

AGirlHasNoName

hides

Tinkeringbell

19:38

@Ælis I think so. I hope it'll be mostly good :)

Ælis

@Tinkeringbell Even if it's good, I'm afraid there will still be ugly reactions :/

AGirlHasNoName

^ that

Tinkeringbell

I'll try and get some of them :) CMs are trying their hardest too...

They definitely seem to be keeping up with newer posts, at least.

On unrelated news... I just cut out the stitch. It was itching too much.

Ælis

@Tinkeringbell So... You are a bad patient then, right?

Rainbacon

@Tinkeringbell uh oh? Or is it ok?

ankii

19:44

should I bring up one more of Dumbo's photos, to lighten things up? I clicked quite some, that day.

Tinkeringbell

@Ælis Really bad!

@Rainbacon Of course it is. It was pretty shallow to begin with, and I was allowed to take it out Wednesday. So I'm only a day and night early!

Ælis

@ankii Oh, yeah, I love seeing pictures in this room!

ankii

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Today must be double uncomfortable no ? @Rainbacon ;p

Rainbacon

Ooh, that's a good one

ankii

I changed my dp too

Rainbacon

19:47

@ankii Why do you say that?

ankii

Sep 26 at 12:40, by Rainbacon

@ankii I'm quite jealous of your access to dogs

lol

Rainbacon

Well, I am very uncomfortable, but that's because I have a sore throat and it's spreading

ankii

ohh.. it was a long time ago, I had that

I don't know how it feels xd

but our local cafe had a short-circuit and got some coffee machines blown up. :(

Ælis

Is it just me or SE has been unusually hard to load for the last 4~5 days?

ankii

charge is unclear to me...

lack of caffeine affects me badly

Ælis

19:55

@ankii That's because it was a french word :p I wanted to say "load"

ankii

ohh lol!

Rainbacon

I get that periodically, but it doesn't seem to be related to the past few days. I've been seeing loading issues off and on for ~6 months

Ælis

Maybe it's just my parent house then :/

ankii

the voodoo steps are always there, flushing cache (not history!), restart etc

oh also, some update, I was able to shape that accent answer better apple.stackexchange.com/questions/373107

Ælis

@ankii Oh nice! It's indeed way more complete than the last time I saw it!

Also, I just found this picture and I find it so cute I wanted to share it with you:

AGirlHasNoName

20:00

@Ælis I haven't had a problem

ankii

Comic artists reach so much more audience than novel writers, though it can be shallow feeling

Loong

20:11

@Ælis today

Tinkeringbell

Well, I'm going to bed. Please be kind to each other while I'm sleeping :)

Ælis

@Loong Oh dear

AGirlHasNoName

@Tinkeringbell no promises ><

whelp its here

What is the process for reinstating a moderator?

Loong

What processes exist to issue formal warnings or remove moderators?

Feedback post: Moderator review and reinstatement processes

Ælis

Thanks :)

Ælis

20:45

@Loong I kept reading "recuse" as "rescue", this made the posts a bit weird x)

ankii

@AGirlHasNoName imagine all CMs waiting for the time now -36 minutes with their answers ready..

user58

I'm just imaging the TL blowing up now.

AGirlHasNoName

I'm glad Im not there

user58

So'm I. ;)

AGirlHasNoName

;]

ankii

20:53

@user58 well you could say that for tavern, meta and workplace too, no?

El'endia Starman

TL actually isn't blowing up! :)

AGirlHasNoName

TWP is crickets ATM

Tavern too

user58

@El'endiaStarman I'm shocked

ankii

I am asleep.

Ælis

In any case, I think it's a good time for some kitten (but when is it not a good time for cat pictures?)

@ankii Also, why TWP would be specifically blowing up?

AGirlHasNoName

20:55

@Ælis TWP had one of the most visceral and knee-jerk reactions

ankii

something something reinstating something something

user58

well I'm off to sleep as well, don't burn the place down in the meantime

not that it wouldn't be interesting, but there'd be paperwork

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ankii

me too.. awake for ~26 hours.

Night!

Ælis

@AGirlHasNoName Hum, true, I remember that >< I though some other chatroom would have been worse though?

AGirlHasNoName

Maybe

We'll see

Ælis

21:00

@AGirlHasNoName Well, I hope I won't x)

AGirlHasNoName

I hang out at TWP. If it explodes I will watch silently

Ælis

If it actually explode, it's probably better to take cover, otherwise, you might be injured :p

AGirlHasNoName

21:16

sigh

Ælis

21:28

AGirlHasNoName

that was brave. I don't think that room is very friendly right now

Ælis

@AGirlHasNoName Oh no, I really don't find it friendly either. But some people over there are still nice people, I'm hoping there are enough nice people to out-weight the "not nice" ones

AGirlHasNoName

Well the nice thing about that room. They aren't all very sympathetic to us, but almost all of them want the conversation to remain civil

you know until they break out into a fight because that happens too

Em C

@AGirlHasNoName poof'd when I flagged it ;)

Ælis

@EmC \o/

AGirlHasNoName

21:33

yay \o/

Em C

they even explicitly say on the FAQ post that they're going to delete extra comments/answers on the policy post, sooo I think pretty much anything there will qualify as NLN

AGirlHasNoName

true

This is a frustrating time to be out of flags comment votes and votes all at once

Lend me an NLN or Unkind?

Ælis

The good news is, we are all winning "the right to use flags" at a very quick rate ^^

Em C

yeah, I didn't even know there was a comment vote limit until this all happened :P

AGirlHasNoName

I know I said I'd stay away from MSE but this doesn't count

user58

21:38

By tomorrow I should have a hundred flags a day on MSE.

Ælis

@AGirlHasNoName You might want to do like me and just post one custom mod flag asking for the entire conversation to be cleaned up (if, indeed, several comments could be removed)

AGirlHasNoName

review-these-comments-and-flag-as-your-conscience-dictates comment 1 comment 2

Ælis

@AGirlHasNoName I had only one flag left, I custom flag the first one

AGirlHasNoName

Hi @HDE226868

Ælis

It's time for me to go to bed. Have some cat love from me:

HDE 226868

21:53

@AGirlHasNoName Hey there!

AGirlHasNoName

@Ælis g'night

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