The Awkward Silence

avazula

05:43

morning everyone!

user58

Morning. Can I go back to sleep now?

ankii

Morning !

avazula

06:06

haha. huh... yeah?

A J

06:40

Afternoon!

Tinkeringbell

07:03

Morning!

Suraj Rao

07:26

\o morn

Tinkeringbell

07:37

@Hugo ._.

Was that really necessary?

CaldeiraG

07:59

Morning!

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Q: Incorrect title of meta mod-message notifications [cake inside! :p]

Mod messages on meta show up with a rather odd title on SO: "moderator message on [moderator] added a new reply" instead of e.g. "moderator message on meta" Screenshot: Notifications of messages sent on SO look like this (in the notifications tab): [mod] added a new reply [user] added a...

Morning cake in there ^^ :p

Tinkeringbell

08:18

Ugh... it's too early for cake!

I have a horrible sweet tooth. But not before 11 AM :P

A J

@Tinkeringbell passes lemonade :P

Tinkeringbell

Coffee for me, please!

Or water.

A J

That lemonade contains water. :P

Ælis

08:47

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Tinkeringbell

@AJ Meh :P

CaldeiraG

lol :p

I would accept a lemonade XD i had my coffee a few min ago :)

Tinkeringbell

I've had two lattes this morning, and I'm close to finishing my first bottle of water :)

Ælis

09:06

@Tinkeringbell Good thing you didn't forget this last word. I was already imagining you drinking not water at the office x)

Tinkeringbell

Some days, that seems like an entirely viable option though.

Just go for iced tea instead of water :P

Ælis

Yeah, sure "iced tea" :p

Tinkeringbell

Ssssh :P

dhein

10:06

good day everyone :)

Ælis

@dhein Hey there, long time no see! How is life going for you?

dhein

Just came back from a hiking/wildcamping trip in Norway yesterday. Was there the whole last week. The week before that I was sick and worried, I might not be fit in time for my trip. So right now I am still a little stressed and happy to find back to my daily routines over the next days :) What about you?

Ælis

Oh, wildcamping sounds really nice! I know my sister would love doing something like that (I believe I would enjoy it too, as long as there isn't too much hiking :p )

As for me, I'm currently switching medication for my anxiety/depression and, well, let's just say that I am not at my best (even though life is treating me well, which is nice :) )

Ælis

10:43

Wow, Skeptic really looks like a ghost town. I asked a question more than 30 minutes ago and there is only 7 views so far oO

dhein

@Ælis Best part about it, and I am sure you'd like it... :P There are no people around. All in social interaction with others we had, was a single hunter we encountered. Thats all within 7 days :P

@Ælis Oh thats rough... hope you get used to the medications soon.

Ælis

@dhein Wow, almost sound like a dream! :p Did you see wild animals? That's usually the best part about hiking in the wild

@dhein Thank you, I hope that too :)

Tinkeringbell

Did you have nice weather?

Extroverted Main Man

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Q: Are my grandparents being too relaxed about this situation?

If you have read my previous question regarding this topic then I have discovered that my paternal grandparents didn’t know that I existed. My grandparents allege that they have been in contact with my father on a weekly basis since he moved out of their family home. They said that they knew my ...

family conflicts estranged-relations

CaldeiraG

10:59

Well, i need to redo my answer lol :p Don't have many time rn xD thanks for the advice @Ælis

Ælis

@CaldeiraG You're welcome ^^ I think you can delete it in the meantime if you don't want to attract downvotes (then you edit, and hit the "undelete" button and, tada!)

CaldeiraG

@Ælis Yea, i did that, good call :)

lunch rn :)

dhein

11:20

@Ælis You mean like Bears, Moos or wolves? No ^^ More the not so preffered by me ants, spiders and other bugs xD

@Tinkeringbell How you mean?

@Tinkeringbell It was a blessing, our destination trip was in heavy rain all the way, but the moment we arrived it stopped. we had 4 very sunny days and just when we started packing to leave, it started raining and our drive back home was as rainy (well partially in the norwegian mountains even snowy) as our first drive ^^

Tinkeringbell

@dhein That sounds like you had a great hike. I don't mind camping myself, but I really dislike doing so in rainy weather!

@dhein Ehh. Please, nevermind. Imagine a Hagrid saying 'I should not have said that'.

dhein

11:36

@Tinkeringbell Still it being said and I would love to at least understand what was meant by what was never said '^.^

@Tinkeringbell Yeah, well it was wet still, since we were surrounded by springs. But yeah, we were able to make a fire and despite it was cold, we had a great time :)

Tinkeringbell

@dhein Campfires are great! It's one of my best memories from camping in the woods for 2 weeks (experimental archaeology internship).

@dhein SE is a big trashfire for the past week (and still going), especially main meta. It was bad enough that I took a break from everything, I've only been back to chatting here since last Friday. The rest you'll really have to dig up yourself if you like trashfires.

dhein

@Tinkeringbell Ah, no I am actually not the sort of of person being into catastrophe tourism ^^ Thanks for clarifying that point then. ^^ So are there any new sort of policys one should be aware of?

Tinkeringbell

@dhein Nope :)

No SchadenFreude for you? ;)

CaldeiraG

12:05

@Ælis can you take a look now at my answer? :)

dhein

12:18

@Tinkeringbell I am an Schadensfrohe person. But I preserve my emotions for those I at least to some extend personally know. If I was just looking for every opportunity.... there were simply too many people on the internet to focus on the remaining chores my day has. ^^

Ælis

@CaldeiraG Hum, I kind of find the back up a bit light, especially for that: "Trying to address this with the offended people will cause more issues to the community and possibly degrade Mr. Newbie experience on the server." -> Did this happen to you in the past? Do you have relevant example that you could talk to us about?

Tinkeringbell

@dhein Hahaha yeah, I guess that's true ;)

CaldeiraG

@Ælis Being called a cheater when you're not degrades your game experience, I've been there, not for the same reasons though

IPS Comment Bot

13:31

Would it be fair to answer that you probably shouldn't let them back because it sets the precedent that you don't actually enforce your bans? Do you have some kind of government for making big decisions or is the server an autocracy? — Pharap 19 secs ago

#22030 Pharap (850 rep) | Q: How to address an online gaming community about our decision to allow back a player who used to be toxic? (score: 3) | posted 117 days ago by Aisudoragon (62 rep) | edited 67 days ago by Jeeter (441 rep) | Toxicity 0.21987215 | tps/fps: 0/0

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@baldPrussian If you want to pose a dupe, the other question is here. — Pharap 7 secs ago

CaldeiraG

@IPSCommentBot huh?

IPS Comment Bot

Comment was made 116 days after last activity on post

Rainbacon

@IPSCommentBot This is a completely useless comment. It just relinks the same post in response to a comment that pointed to that post as a possible duplicate

^^ aka, everyone should go flag it as NLN

CaldeiraG

done :)

Ælis

Pouf

CaldeiraG

13:42

it's because the other question got active by me :)

so basically everyone is revisiting those

Rainbacon

@CaldeiraG Look what you've done

CaldeiraG

XD

scohe001

Damn. This answer got 7 upvotes in the first 30 seconds. The meta-stalkers are active :p

CaldeiraG

@scohe001 I'm not surprised, lot of activity there, people leave their tabs open there

Everyone is been waiting for Monica's response

scohe001

But then click over to it, open the answer, read and vote all in 30 seconds? In the words of the younger generation, "People be cray"

user58

13:48

I have never heard or seen anyone say that, ever.

scohe001

@user58 well you can't say that anymore after I just said that, now can you :p

I believe the actual quote uses a word a little stronger than "People" that starts with a b

user58

Ælis

@user58 You seem to appear every time someone talks about "young people". Do you have a special alarm for that who wake you up even in the middle of the night? :p

user58

...it probably just means I spend an unhealthy amount of time stalking various SE chat rooms.

And don't get enough sleep.

user15026

Sleep is good, I suggest more of that.

Rainbacon

13:53

@Ælis We have a "user58 signal". It's a giant spotlight that shows a pair of kitten ears in the sky

Ælis

@Rainbacon Yep, that's what I figured

user58

@Ash I got a whole seven hours last night. That's more than almost any other night since the current SE thing exploded. *huge yawn* I'll definitely be making it an early night... although maybe not quite as early as 5PM. ;)

user15026

@user58 okay yes maybe thats a little early :p

IPS Comment Bot

15:59

It sounds like an extremely emotional and difficult situation. They love their son, and have for decades. They don't really know you at all. They suddenly learned of this information all at once and without warning, and from a source that may not be telling them the full story. What reaction is it that you're expecting them to have, exactly, and what is it that you'd like to happen? — Upper_Case 1 min ago

#23089 Upper_Case (14581 rep) | Q: Are my grandparents being too relaxed about this situation? (score: -1) | posted 5 hours ago by user1261710 (882 rep) | Toxicity 0.20127545 | tps/fps: 0/0

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Rainbacon

17:46

needs-backup | interpersonal.stackexchange.com/a/23091/11659

ankii

18:02

What on earth was going on with the editor on this?

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Q: What pronoun to use when talking about a transgender person's past?

I have an old friend who recently came out as transgender. We have a very healthy relationship in general, but I often find myself wondering if I should mention his past (before he came out) and, if I do bring it up, if I should refer to him by masculine or feminine pronouns. My question is: Is ...

friends gender lgbt+

And thanks to Cascabel and @Ælis

Ælis

@ankii You should raise a custom mod flag under the question so that a mod can take care of it

ankii

could you, RO clean this up?

Ælis

@ankii Also, I think Meg thought it was rude to address a trans person as being "Female to male transgender". But, for those who don't know, it's something very commonly done in the trans community. I, however, prefer to say that "I'm a non-binary person who was assigned female at birth". But saying "Female to Male" is fine too

ankii

But the comments there say otherwise

user58

see also: AFAB

ankii

18:08

can there be a least friction way?

Ælis

@ankii Oh, didn't saw the comments, I think editing by saying "Assigned Female at Birth" would be fine (I was afraid the other way of phrasing would be confusing for people outside the trans community)

Rainbacon

My way of least friction would be, that post hadn't been touched in almost 2 years, so I'd leave it alone

Em C

"AFAB" can be iffy too, from what I have read :/

(reading post now)

ankii

@Rainbacon doesn't mean we can't have some policy? internal, among editors . not that it was the last post

Ælis

@EmC Oh, really? Do you have some link who would talk about that? I would be curious to know why ^^

Em C

18:15

hm, it looks like Meg was editing to include the suggestion from comments, so I'm kind of inclined to roll back again to her edit and then clean up the comments, actually

Ælis

@Rainbacon The post was edited one hour ago and I did a rollback. I agree that leaving it alone in the first place would have been good, but I'm afraid it's a little bit late now ^^

Rainbacon

I'm not in any way an expert on correct language for people who are transgender. I would tend to stick with whatever way a person uses to refer to themself. In the absence of that I would probably only try to correct things that I knew were clearly offensive

Ælis

@EmC I should probably have read the comment before doing the rollback. In any case, I fine with any course of action

Em C

@Ælis ah no links that I know of :( to be fair I think the context is really important. I saw these objections when because people were.. well, basically lumping "cis men" and "AMAB" together

(in order to criticize their behavior conforming to gender roles etc etc... suffice to say it was a messy situation)

Ælis

@EmC I could see how that could be messy ^^

Em C

18:25

yeah :/ I guess it's made me wary of describing others that way, just in case they don't like it. but of course if it's a helpful label for you, don't let me discourage you :)

Ælis

Oh, don't worry, I wasn't discouraged ^^

Em C

:)

I rolled back the edit btw and noted the reason in the revision history. looks like I might need to do some comment cleanup on the answers later too :P

Ælis

@EmC I guess, when it comes to describing someone else, the most important thing is to know how they are ok to be described (like you wouldn't out someone else without their permission)

@EmC Saw that, thanks for the cleaning and the decision making :)

Em C

@Ælis definitely!

Ælis

18:43

Well, I just answer what I feel is a bad question (very unclear, should be close IMO but had been reopened) with a way too long answer...

bruglesco

hey all

Rainbacon

@bruglesco Hey!

Em C

o/

scohe001

\o

user58

o/

bruglesco

18:56

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0w0

scohe001

°\

user58

@scohe001 you okay there, bud

scohe001

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bruglesco

That's impressive

user58

*craning neck* I see....

Rainbacon

20:30

Ooh, @Ælis you might enjoy this: IPS currently has 3,333 questions

Ælis

@Rainbacon Oh, nice! Did you know that I posted more than 1% of them?

Rainbacon

No, but I'm not surprised

Ælis

Hehe :p

Rainbacon

You have the most questions by quite a bit

Ælis

What does surprise me is that I still have more answers than questions. I suppose answers are easier to come up with and less noticeable

Rainbacon

20:33

I feel like it's easier to answer multiple times a day too

Rainbacon

20:55

I feel like we've had quite a bit of activity this afternoon, but no comments for the past several hours. I think that's a good thing

Ælis

I don't like when we don't see comment in the closet. It makes me wonder if the bot is dead ^^

Rainbacon

I've checked the top 4 or 5 questions on the front page, and none of them have new comments since the last one posted in the closet

Well, I guess there is one new comment, but it was written by a mod on an answer after it had been deleted. My guess is that the bot won't pick that up

Ælis

Yeah, never saw the bot pick up comment from deleted stuff (even if it makes me sad :'( )

:p

Em C

21:16

tiny vent time.. I am so happy about moving offices later this week..... my coworker just tapped my shoulder from behind while I had headphones on and it turns out I Do Not Like That

otherwise I would be reading the question we had about that very intently right now :P

CaldeiraG

@Ælis did you replied to my message here? :p

IPS Comment Bot

23:54

People sometimes mishear my given name, or simply don't pay attention when I say it. They then call me by a name which has the same first syllable. I don't feel invisible when this happens. Why should I? There are enough people who get it right when I tell them that those who get it wrong have simply made a mistake, which I immediately correct. They say sorry and repeat my actual name, then we both move on. If they insisted that my name was they initially misheard, I would then be offended. I would much rather people use the wrong pronouns than assume I'm non-binary and ask for them. — CJ Dennis 1 min ago

#23094 CJ Dennis (131 rep) | A: How to avoid repeatedly being asked for your pronouns by the same people? (score: 2) | posted 5 hours ago by Ælis (9603 rep) | Toxicity 0.18232624 | tps/fps: 0/0

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