The Awkward Silence

Sad to see the OP there hasn't answered any requests for clarification :/

Yeah :/

The OP hasn't been to the site since posting the Q, and is probably in the situation at the moment.

2:31 PM

@GypsySpellweaver 24 hour work shifts are a bit long IMO ;)

@GypsySpellweaver I just realize you are "Witan ap Danu", so thanks for post a comment there too :)

@Tinkeringbell Not as a business owner. But, didn't mean they had been at the bar since posting, just that they probably are now.

@Ælis Small though it be, I've donated my nickle to the kitty.

I'll probably get 2 cents in change :)

@GypsySpellweaver As long as you don't post them as an answer, since it would lack back up :p

2:49 PM

@Ælis I hope you're referring to my nickle and change, and not the experience of others in the comment?

@GypsySpellweaver In IPS, when people say "just my 2 cents", that's usually because they write an answer with no back-up. I thought I made a joke about it, sorry it wasn't clear ^^

It's kewl, just wasn't sure. That's why I said it was my "nickle" and expected 2 cents back.

3:24 PM

@Ælis just your two cents

bruglesco

3:53 PM

I just finished voting and I must say that it is refreshing to find an election that is difficult because you feel very strongly that most of the candidates are good choices to choose from.

That's nice to hear, thank you :D As I said earlier to someone else "complaining" about the same thing:

8 hours ago, by Ælis

@Imus Try to see it likes that: we will all do great mods but we all have different strengths and weaknesses and the community will decide what strength we currently need most. All you have to do know is trust the community

(please try to ignore this "know" would should be a "now" ^^)

And other things.

bruglesco

@Ælis One of my favorite parts of SE is the edit features. I make silly typos all the time. It's nice to make them vanish. (except unfortunately in chat and comments.)

4:09 PM

@bruglesco Yeah, I've voted in 5 SO elections and never once had to not vote for a candidate that I strongly felt would make a good mod because there were too many good options.

I wish that was true in real life :/

haha

Heh, don't we all...

Instead of the cthulhu thing

Granted, we only get one choice

I would quite like to see the US move to ranked choice voting

4:11 PM

stackoverflow.blog/2019/06/18/… . The onebox is huuuuuuge.

Adamant

Oh, so that's why I suddenly got a pile of life jacket badges.

It was a retroactive update

I thought it was an old badge.

Goodbye to my reversal badges though. :( Or maybe good riddance

You still get to keep them, you just don't earn more

I wonder if SE has ever given thought to having badges that are awardable by mods

@Rainbacon do you want to be accused of favoritism, nepotism, cliquish behavior or all of the above? :P

Yes! Why do you think I ran for the mod position?

Mostly, I feel like there are some actions that should be highly encouraged, but which could be difficult to quantify.

4:26 PM

@Rainbacon Well, for writing great answers you can award bounties, you can leave comments and for the people that chat, compliments in chat ;)

For the people that don't chat... Too bad for them :P

This proposal comes to mind as a candidate for a moderator awarded badge

ElizB

Good afternoon all :) almost done with lunch break at the museum.

@ElizB Hi!

@Rainbacon Meh. We'd miss stuff, we'd have to argue about great edits (does correcting horrible English really count as 'amazing'?)... I think the new badges kinda do that too, at least the blog post mentions edits as well

Our newest HNQ has an answer that doesn't seem to meet citation guidelines?

interpersonal.stackexchange.com/questions/22092/… < newest HNQ :P

Oh wait, a TED talk counts, I guess.

@Tinkeringbell It was obvious hours ago

4:40 PM

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Of course it was! It was obvious the minute I posted my answer XD

@Tinkeringbell If it 'saves' the post, sure. And that's usually not quantifiable

@Tinkeringbell Parrots are portrayed as cheeky, not necessarily bragging

@Tinkeringbell Yeah, I was going to answer it, but then yours was better

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Oh. Sorry. Bad owner, and parrots copy behaviour :P

user15026

Neat, I just got the new Lifejacket and Lifeboat badges for one of my posts here :D

HDE 226868

4:58 PM

Congrats! They're pretty good badges to get. :-)

@Ash You managed to get both? Awesome!

There were a total of 7 Lifeboat badges handed out on IPS

@Tinkeringbell I think if you qualify for the golden one, you'll get the silver one as well

I got a Lifejacket... I do look ridiculous in those :P

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Yes, that is correct

5:04 PM

Of course I am

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ And more importantly, you are so humble

What can I say, I'm like an infinity stone of righteousness.

________

This is weird. Ever since I changed my locale (because I needed to install an app to fill out some tax forms) i.stack.imgur seems to be working.

user15026

@Tinkeringbell Yep :)

5:28 PM

interpersonal.stackexchange.com/a/22099/1599 < needs eyes...

Urf. HNQ really is the bane of SE.

I'll leave them a comment

I keep forgetting why it's a bad idea to write answers: If stuff hits HNQ it looks weird if you comment/vote/moderate that particular Q&A :/

IPS Comment Bot

I like the first suggestion of playfully dodging it, but I don't think "accepting the idea" as suggested later is good advice, not everyone reacts the same way and if it is uncomfortable for the person, it might never settle. — ConfusedHuman 7 secs ago

#22099 ConfusedHuman (220 rep) | A: How to make clear to people I don't want to answer their "Where are you from?" question? (score: -3) | posted 15 minutes ago by djsmiley2k (1488 rep) | Toxicity 0.306829 | tps/fps: 0/0

Matched regex(es) ["chatty-no-doubt(@Noon)", "chatty"]

Oh gosh, this is a harder comment to write than I thought

@Rainbacon Blah,blah,blah please look at citation expectations blah? :P

5:35 PM

@Tinkeringbell I've had it disabled since that feature appeared. Haven't regretted it.

@Mithrandir Well, having questions on there I mean :P I don't mind seeing stuff from other sites, but whenever things hit HNQ here they get stuff that needs moderating :P That question was fine for 8 hours, and became in need of attention only minutes after hitting HNQ :/

5:47 PM

Well yeah, so fewer people seeing the HNQ means less of the issue on other sites...

@Mithrandir interpersonal.stackexchange.com/a/22100/1599 I have only one reply to that :P

Some people don't share my viewpoints. Can't imagine why.

I guess it would help if more people turned off their HNQ :P

That's sharing your viewpoint ;)

interpersonal.stackexchange.com/a/22101/1599 < And nr. 3... Can y'all keep up?

(Two of them need comments. If no one is able to leave them, I should probably do so myself :/ )

...if there's no comment when I'm done with supper, I'll leave one.

...I'll just leave the "no answer-comments" autocomment and include the line about citation guidelines.

Don't eat supper and try to moderate XD

(If I'm correct, it'll only make parents angry :P)

ankiiiiiii

5:59 PM

Hey!
Some of these answers imply that this is impossible to do, so OP should do what is expected and is 'accepted'. This doesn't look like a good answering technique. Anyone else thinks so?

@ankiiiiiii Usually, it isn't, unless an answer can say 'well, I once did this, did it so and so and people looked at me like I grew horns and a tail so I recommend not doing this'

But for now, mostly the answers just don't meet citation expectations.

@Mithrandir Mind if I change the caps to lowercase? It looks too shouty bolded and capsed.

(for my taste :P)

@ankiiiiiii Yep, that falls in the "bad frame challenge" category. We have rules for that and a good frame challenge should suggest an alternative approach that will still accomplish OP goals

@ankiiiiiii interpersonal.meta.stackexchange.com/a/3309/1599 That is the longest answer I ever wrote on what people call 'frame challenges', a term we took from other sites but noting that the term is also deprecated on some of those sites now. It's (I think) a good thing to read with regards to your question :)

ankiiiiiii

writing.stackexchange.com/questions/45984/… yesterday active! Bruglesco is active here too

@Tinkeringbell yes too long xd

Will give them a read..

@ankiiiiiii I'm really bad at writing short things XD I got a bit better though, mainly because I now don't just keep adding stuff but reshuffle and revise and delete other stuff XD

6:10 PM

20 minutes before a meeting PM asks if I can demo the functionality that we are currently developing (super buggy) to the business stakeholders. Low and behold, everything broke during that 20 minutes, so no demo happened

But good subjective answers tend to be long, rather than short, so it's okay on this site ;)

@Mithrandir Yeah yeah yeah, grumpedy grumpedy grump.

@Tinkeringbell Oh that sounds . . . concerning. Reminds me of our own HNQ

What. Wait. No. Reminds me of out own homework problem.

HNQ is entertainment. That means pain for the mods involved. No matter how gentlemanly (I dunno the term for the opposite sex) people visiting act, it will always be a pain

Some people are willing for that trade-off, others aren't.

I just dropped comments on the other two answers: One self-deleted, but reacted positively to the guidance it seems, and the other hasn't responded yet :P

@Tinkeringbell Not sure I'd call rage-quitting a positive reaction

@Rainbacon It had a smiley :P (One I forgot in my comment, but OP seems to have picked up on it nonetheless, thank goodness ;) )

6:20 PM

"I HATE THIS SITE AND I HATE SE AND MAY YOU BURN IN HELL . . . :)"

Hmm, that gives it a creepy, horror movie vibe.

Fair, I guess I wouldn't classify their actions as "rage"-quitting but rather just deciding that the site is not for them

Maybe one day they'll return :)

@Tinkeringbell Whoa that's touching sheds a tear

Why do questions have to be a day old before we can protect them?

Oh! I have earned a lifeboat just now on IPS meta? XD

6:31 PM

@Rainbacon Three crappy answers and Community auto-protects them

@Rainbacon Maybe that's a trusted-user privilege thing. As a mod, I can do it to a 17-minute-old question on Christianity.SE.

Probably just to avoid premature decisions

Interesting

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Only if they're from new users ;)

(And deleted)

According to the help center it requires being at least a day old for trusted users to protect it

6:32 PM

@El'endiaStarman Yep. 'regular' users can earn protecting questions as a privilege, but have to wait until the question is 24 hours old.

@Tinkeringbell Well of course, protection wouldn't have stopped the ones from high-reps being posted, right? Doesn't negate my point that it's to avoid premature protection

Imagine an uptight high-rep with the privilege. They would go protect anything that got a subjectively bad answer. Potential to wreck havoc.

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ You mean like how I was about to protect our current HNQ?

@Rainbacon The system is indiscriminate, it can't decide whether your decision is valid or not.

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ BTW, from what I see on IPS Meta this seems untrue: I only got the golden one.

That the limit is there to prevent bad protections doesn't mean every decision to protect it would be bad.

@Tinkeringbell Huh, weird. Don't care either way. I got a silver on meta.SE and that's about it

6:37 PM

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ A silver one on IPS main, and a gold one on IPS meta... I like the extra gold meta badge, despite all our drama I never managed to get a good stack of reversal badges XD

@Tinkeringbell People don't look at the comments. The shoutiness is necessary for people to notice it.

(I haven't even recently checked that HNQ you're talking about @Rain, and I'm very underqualified to decide if it would need protection)

@Tinkeringbell If you ever felt like you need an injection of fun rant, you can check out the post on meta.SE I earned a Reversal for.

Good times.

@Mithrandir I thought the canned comment has bold, not uppercase?

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Maybe after I finish crochet.

@Tinkeringbell For the silver badge: Answer score of 5 or more to a question score of -2 or less that goes on to receive a score of 2 or more

@Tinkeringbell Hmm, you crocheted Drogon, now it's Daenery's turn?

6:42 PM

For the gold: Answer score of 20 or more to a question score of -3 or less that goes on to receive a score of 3 or more

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ It's going to be very pink. And a bookmark. You may guess.

@Rainbacon Oooh, wait. Yeah, they don't wholly overlap.

Based on those number it shouldn't be possible to get the gold without the silver

@Rainbacon Maybe it's because they're awarded retroactively ;)

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ What part doesn't overlap?

6:43 PM

Maybe you need to reach +20 while the post is still at -3?

and then the post needs to reach 3?

@Tinkeringbell A pig? (sorry, I'm tired and can't think of anything else ^^')

@Tinkeringbell A PINK BOOKMARK! I am a genius. ᕙ། ¯ ~͜ʖ~ ¯ །ᕗ

That seems rather arbitrary

@Rainbacon If it doesn't go to -3, but starts getting upvoted at -2

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Then you could never get the gold badge

6:44 PM

Yep.

But silver would be possible.

Wait.

We should find a case for the other way around

I'm an un-genius.

Ingenuous? It doesn't work that way.

Yeah, ingenious doesn't mean "not genius". :P Same thing with inflammable.

I know.

A more interesting example is de-

But indeed, this is odd: 5 Lifeboat badges (gold) but 0 Lifejacket badges (silver) awarded on IPS.Meta.

Since English borrows a lot, the real oddity doesn't show up in the spelling, but morphology

I saw something similar when I checked on SO earlier

6:48 PM

Occam's razor: Bug.

Yuck. I wouldn't wanna shave with an insect

Not even those cute ladybugs.

@El'endiaStarman Perhaps it's time for a main meta post ;)

They're being awarded in batches over the next 24 hours, I think.

@Tinkeringbell Mhm, I thought of doing so but I'll leave it to people who noticed it first.

Er. Firster.

They might not be the first.

@El'endiaStarman should write one then? Or me?

Oh no, not me. I didn't get either of those badges on any site. :P

NVZ

6:55 PM

@El'endiaStarman Perhaps in the next few hours we'll see a flood of lifejackets.

Oh hi @NVZ welcome back to chat. Haven't seen you here in a while

"flood" <- I see what you did there.

Might even get to save DiCaprio

@El'endiaStarman phrases.org.uk/cgi-bin/phrase-thesaurus/pf.cgi?w=carefree

> Many happy returns ( IBM Electric Typewriters advertising slogan )

Heh

NVZ

@Rainbacon I was at some point fighting online addiction and part of the solution had me cutting down on stack exchange as well.

Hmm, Prince of Mid Air. Gonna steal that

Q: Are users dropped in Lifeboats without Lifejackets?

7:00 PM

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IPS Meta just got a round of Lifeboat badges awarded, 5 posts have earned someone a Lifeboat. But not a single user has yet earned the Lifejacket badge, even though the criteria for getting that one seem lower than for getting the Lifeboat. Usually, with badges that come in silver and gold, y...

Well, it's posted :)

I gave you your first upvote

I also just became an epic user on IPS :D

On to legendary, I guess XD

Congrats

@Tinkeringbell 👏

M&TV super-HNQ: movies.stackexchange.com/questions/101633/…

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Scooby Doo was cool, at least when I was young. Dunno about nowadays.

7:08 PM

@Tinkeringbell They look like dorks

IPS Comment Bot

That's a really nice move! — Tashus 1 min ago

#22098 Tashus (101 rep) | A: How to make clear to people I don't want to answer their "Where are you from?" question? (score: 6) | posted 7 hours ago by ConfusedHuman (251 rep) | Toxicity 0.027999295 | tps/fps: 0/0

Matched regex(es) ["short-comment"]

There is a couple of funny lines in each episode, but the humor or the creativity isn't enough to keep you around

Sounds like it may be good crochet background noise

@Tinkeringbell Hmm, what kinda background noise do you like?

Anything that tells a story but doesn't throw off my counting, and that I can follow without watching at the screen ;)

7:17 PM

I'd wager 75 percent of movies that hold ratings from 30–50 percent in Rotten Tomatoes are perfect background noises.

Another anwser to leave a comment on: interpersonal.stackexchange.com/a/22102/21067

We could really use this "protect" thing (@Tinkeringbell)

@Tinkeringbell When I was learning English, there were a couple of Cartoon Network shows that were really good. And are still good.

@Ælis I really can't protect it myself, that's like saying 'my answer is perfect enough, new users should not even try' :P

I'll pass it on ;)

The newest answer at least has some personal experience

I'm not sure it's all that different from the one I wrote though, but yeah. It's at least a not so bad one!

7:32 PM

If the user answers my question and the information makes it into their post, I think it's good to stay

@Tinkeringbell I figure you would do so, I guess I should have mod flag instead but I didn't thing about it at the time

@Rainbacon "If, on the odd occasion, someone asks and I don't wish to tell them for whatever reason, then I might just say" -> Doesn't sound like personal experience to me. More like: "here is what I would do in your situation"

I think there's a bit of language thing in there, to me the 'if' is more of a 'this doesn't happen often but when it does happen I treat it like this'

@Tinkeringbell That's how I read it

And the "might" is there because they offer two things, see the 'or' between the two quotes

At least, that's how I'm reading it :)

"Might" doesn't mean that to me

It has a really strong possibility tone to it

7:41 PM

The user responded and confirmed that it does happen, but is rare

Where is the sentence anyway, can't find it

Oh, there it is

Yeah, agree @Tink. It doesn't imply whether or not they were in this situation, and it's common enough to use it when it has indeed happened to them

Modals. Frigging modals.

Ugh, my team is so bad at meetings

We had a 1 hour meeting scheduled as a sprint retrospective. We've now been in that meeting for 1 hour and 45 minutes and have absorbed sprint planning, backlog grooming, and apparently now researching what the competitor is doing.

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Imgur stuff still working for you?

@Tinkeringbell not anymore q_q

Pfft :P

There you go then

Since you didn't manage to guess :P

7:56 PM

Oh, that makes so much sense

Avatars are cached though, so I can see @Cat's new (?) avatar!

Bennett kinda looks like me o.o At least in the small version of the image

I was a pretty . . . dangerous kid

I think that's been her avatar for a decent while now

Catija

8:25 PM

Couple months.

Time to change again :P Babies grow quickly and M.A.R. has seen this one now ;)

Q: Question was protected while I was composing an answer

8:59 PM

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There's one answer that got some downvotes, but no spam or egregious answers. You may want to reconsider your policy of protecting every question that hits HNQ. It's discouraging to put effort into composing an answer that I can't post. How to make clear to people I don't want to answer their "W...

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^ need an answer to explain that there is more deleted answers over there

Extroverted Main Man

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I'm at a fairly new job, and for transport, I'm carpooling with a coworker of mine, who owns a car. I've noticed that this coworker tends to drive rather unsafely. I've first noticed them rolling past stop signs and using their cell phone while driving, often not noticing traffic lights and si...

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9:16 PM

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Q: Question was protected while I was composing an answer

There's one answer that got some downvotes, but no spam or egregious answers. You may want to reconsider your policy of protecting every question that hits HNQ. It's discouraging to put effort into composing an answer that I can't post. How to make clear to people I don't want to answer their "W...

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