The Awkward Silence

3:14 AM

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Q: How can I be more convincing when it comes to my words?

I have a big problem with people that know me. I do have slight anger issues (like 0-90 in 1 second, and 90-100 in 10), and I know some people (my friends) that would irritate me just for their amusement. I usually give a threat (i.e. if you keep doing that I will pour water on your head) but ca...

anger

Jesse

4:27 AM

I am most certainly guilty of this :/ perhaps its time to give out some more flowers... or grilled poop sandwiches I guess?

"And little makes me sadder than comments on answers saying, “Don’t answer questions like this – it encourages them.” Now, some questions are off-topic. (I’m genuinely sorry, but we simply can’t explain how a glass pitcher can smash through a brick wall with no apparent injuries; ---

--- we are a programming site.) But it’s totally cool to answer questions without giving a grilled poop sandwich about exactly what’s allowed. It’s fine to volunteer in one way without being expected to read and enforce every rule and meta discussion since forever." stackoverflow.blog/2018/04/26/…

M.A.R. ಠ_ಠ

7:23 AM

@Jesse I have given comments like that. Never as blunt

We usually just say "please don't answer questions that don't comply with our homework policy"

It's bureaucratic, comprehensible and nice enough

Jesse

8:13 AM

@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ That sort of response is exactly what they were talking about. And I have done it plenty too. I think rather than saying it nicely, this post is suggesting that we should not say anything at all. If a user wants to volunteer to answer bad questions then they are suggesting that it is totally fine and to apprehend them for doing so is contributing to the unwelcoming appearance

voting to delete, or pushing for the soon to be relevant updates is fine, but to tell them not to answer is being called an unwelcoming form of moderation. I was not aware of this implication but am happy to be a bit more laid back and give it a shot

Extroverted Main Man

9:15 AM

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Q: How to deal with strong political disagreements with my sensitive girlfriend?

Me and my girlfriend (both in our early 20s) disagree a lot on various political issues in and out of our country, and those disagreements cause her a lot of grief as she is a very sensitive person and the beliefs she holds are, while important to her, hard for her to defend in an argument, which...

relationships

Extroverted Main Man

10:42 AM

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Q: A group of friends did something wrong, how to tell them without exaggerating, but still defending my position?

Context: A group of friends did something to me that was, to say the least, inconsiderate: We had an appointment in a certain place, let's call it A. I live in another city (this is a rather new situation, been here for one month and a half), so I told them I was going to get there at a certa...

friends conflict-aversion friend-groups assertiveness friendship

Extroverted Main Man

12:44 PM

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Q: How to peacefuly deal with a loud religous group

This isn’t really an inter-personal question. It mostly has to do with me and my family against another religious group. About a month ago a pentecostal “church” opened about a mile from our house. We live in Uganda Africa and this country is a very pentecostal country, with the majority of the...

rudeness religion cross-culture east-africa

Extroverted Main Man

1:00 PM

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Q: How to get my stuff back from my ex-girlfriend?

My ex-girlfriend and I have been separated from months, and she still has some of my personal stuff. As our relation ended in a bad manner we don't speak a lot to each other. She said at multiple times that she will sent me back my stuff, but she never did. It's hard and painfull to simply discu...

relationships conflicts difficult-people

Tinkeringbell

1:24 PM

Welll hello there, why is everyone so quiet? Are y'all busy celebrating Kingsday too? :P

avazula

@Tinkeringbell Hi there!

I guess the Nethelands' King rule the world... :)

A J

@Tinkeringbell I am at work. :P

Tinkeringbell

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@AJ No one said anything since last night (or at least, not much). That's... kinda disappointing :P I expect this room filled with chatter all the times! :D

Rainbacon

@Tinkeringbell I'm busy getting bombarded by my coworkers with memes of Justin Timberlake

avazula

@Tinkeringbell I fear my colleagues will catch me chatting there

Tinkeringbell

1:30 PM

hahaha Go work, all of you. In the meanwhile, I'll spend my national holiday moderating stuff, all alone :(

avazula

@Tinkeringbell We're we you mentally o/

Richard U

@Tinkeringbell I am busy causing great distress to someone who deserves it.

Tinkeringbell

@RichardU You've got weird hobbies :P

avazula

@RichardU Are we talking of a sysadmin here?

(kidding)

Jesse

@avazula I think he was talking about you, going to rat you out to your colleagues ;)

avazula

1:38 PM

@Jesse shoot guys, I've already told you I have no second degree! :p

Fortunately my colleagues are also pulling up ahah

IPS Comment Bot

I’m guessing you have never left America? (I don’t mean any mean assumptions I just have a few simple things to explain) The culture here is very passive. Simply confronting them and asking them to tone it down won’t do it. They won’t listen to one white guy asking them politely to tone it down. As a Christian, I strongly disagree with their views. Labeling all of us under one category is probably not a good idea. — E. Huckabee 18 secs ago

#13724 E. Huckabee (599 rep) | A: How to peacefuly deal with a loud religious group (score: 0) | posted 21 minutes ago by Astralbee (11278 rep)

Matched regex(es) ["chatty"]

Richard U

@Tinkeringbell I am the unholy terror to unholy terrors

;)

Tinkeringbell

Ah well, as long as you're having fun and it's not on SE, go for it :P

Richard U

@Tinkeringbell at SE, I only use my powers for good.

IPS Comment Bot

+1 for accepting the idea that an angry ex has trashed your stuff, and in the end it's just stuff. — baldPrussian 1 min ago

Richard U

1:50 PM

other places..... well.

IPS Comment Bot

#13722 baldPrussian (13802 rep) | A: How to get my stuff back from my ex-girlfriend? (score: 1) | posted 39 minutes ago by Pete B. (1031 rep)

Matched regex(es) ["+1"]

Mithrandir

@Tinkeringbell it's friday

Tinkeringbell

@Mithrandir Soooo?

Mithrandir

Which means I'm busy as a bus full of caffeinated bees

Tinkeringbell

@Mithrandir Oh... Eh, I guess. You get a free pass then, but the rest of this room needs to speak up more :P

avazula

2:02 PM

Lots of people joined since last hour! Hi everyone!

@Tinkeringbell How's your magik training going?

Tinkeringbell

@avazula Finished. I'm guessing(and hoping) I'll have some time for self-study next week, and then I'd hopefully go work for a new customer the week after :)

avazula

@Tinkeringbell Yay! Congrats :)

Tinkeringbell

Hahaha it wasn't hard or anything ;-) Doesn't really feel like an accomplishment, to be honest :) But I am glad it was that easy :D

avazula

@Tinkeringbell it feels to me that once you've learned one language (and practiced for a bit), it becomes easier and easier to learn more similar stuff

Tinkeringbell

@avazula For me, it does. For others, not so much.

avazula

2:10 PM

@Tinkeringbell Really? I had no idea. Yet I was terrible back in the days I was starting programming Java!

Tinkeringbell

@avazula I did classes with an older man that started in a different language, learned magik later on, but took the classes for the second time because, well, he's... struggling with it.

It kinda seems he can't think the way a programmer thinks when programming in magik

Extroverted Main Man

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Q: deal with noisy people in a classroom ,in absence of adult supervision

I'm put in a top performing batch in my high school, after management saw my academic performance, because of which they leave us to study on our own in the classroom. Most students in the classroom are noisy; they keep talking during free/study hours, and they make it up for it by pulling an al...

difficult-people south-asia

Tinkeringbell

(like, add a variable > add that to the constructor > make a getter/setter is a logical way of working, but he somehow doesn't see it)

avazula

If he mostly programmed with non-OO languages, it's not that surprising

I've mostly programmed in C when beginning. Wasn't that easy to switch to C++ (luckily I've studied Java before)

Tinkeringbell

@avazula I was raised with an OO language (Java) and Magik is only my second ;)

avazula

2:16 PM

@Tinkeringbell IFAIK Magik looks OO too, doesn't it?

Rainbacon

I never liked OO programming as much. I prefer functional, but it's a lot harder to find jobs in functional

avazula

@Rainbacon Where do you live? I've got the same problem here in France :)

Tinkeringbell

@avazula Yeah, it is :)

Introverted Meta Man.

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Q: When is an answer 'not an answer'?

The 'Not an Answer' Flag has the text This was posted as an answer, but it does not attempt to answer the question. It should possibly be an edit, a comment, another question, or deleted altogether. If the answer you wish to flag is an answer, but only in a 'general problem solving' sense ...

discussion feature-request

Rainbacon

@avazula I live in the US. New York City specifically

avazula

2:24 PM

@Rainbacon I've been offered a job in California recently in the SV, AFAIK they are desesperately looking for engineers. Don't know if they would have offers for non-OO languages programmers though ...

Rainbacon

Most of the people I've met who do non-OO started out at their companies doing OO and then managed to convince their superiors that non-OO could be better for some things. I met a couple of people at a meetup who do Haskell and they said their team started with one guy who wrote a small application in Haskell and then it worked so well that his boss let him keep writing Haskell and now there's a whole team that does it.

avazula

@Rainbacon This is more or less what happened to me. I'm supposed to be an electronics & computer engineer, have mostly studied (embedded-)C, assembly and VHDL, yet all job offers I've had so far were like "OMG YOU KNOW C++?!"

Introverted Meta Man.

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Q: Permission to reference a Meta question on Meta.StackExchange

With regards to "Stack Overflow Isn't Very Welcoming" especially [...] marginalized groups?, there appears to be a very clear and concise desire to get information on the following: Too many people experience Stack Overflow as a hostile or elitist place, especially newer coders, women, people...

discussion

Mithrandir

3:07 PM

@IntrovertedMetaMan. Check the content license. That should be enough.

Rainbacon

@avazula I just want to get away from javascript

Extroverted Main Man

3:20 PM

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Q: They undid everything I have done while I was on paternity leave

One of my colleague got a promotion and became technical lead, around the same time new people were hired and I also became a dad. I went on paternity leave after making sure that the proper knowledge transfers had been carried out to the old and new members of the team. I came back after a coup...

work-environment conflicts

sphennings

3:39 PM

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Tinkeringbell

4:18 PM

@IntrovertedMetaMan. With regard to that: meta.stackexchange.com/a/309538/369802 here's the answer they wrote while citing that ;)

TheTinyMan

5:03 PM

@ExtrovertedMainMan Man, that is so far removed from on topic, but this person's means of expression fascinates me.

Introverted Meta Man.

5:29 PM

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Q: Is IPS hostile towards people with autism?

I've noticed some distinct hostility in general towards people with ASD in IPS. While other marginalized groups are given a bit of deference and leeway, it seems that people with ASD are being jumped on and held accountable for things they cannot control. Literalism is assumed to be rudeness an...

discussion

Rainbacon

7:38 PM

@IntrovertedMetaMan. I like that question. I think it provides a really good opportunity to look at ways to improve the IPS experience

Extroverted Main Man

8:11 PM

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Q: Is it okay to create fake tension/be intensionally difficult?

From where i live it's common to shake hands with someone you meet, no matter how close you are. I don't shake hands with people that i meet everyday. I stopped doing it in highschool because people wanted to shake hands in early winter mornings, they expected me to take my hands out my warm jack...