@Tinkeringbell it happens a lot on some of my sites. eg on Security we have a million questions asked on password strength. All closeable as duplicates :-)
@Tinkeringbell Well, one can be interesting and different without being a crap friend. Like I didn't expect to be invited to an EDM show tonight, but unpredictably I was ;)
@ArtOfCode here unpredictable definitely has a negative feeling to it. It's used to describe e.g. things that are dangerous and not good for you, and people you can't count on
@Tinkeringbell Aye, I know what you meant. It's the same sort of thing over here - just that if you want to be pedantic and look at dictionaries, they mean the same :)
I feel like the people that I only know for few days do not show respect to me. They don't act in particular unrespectful but I feel like there is a condescending behavior towards me.
I usually don't feel like I am one of the other people, I feel like an outcast. And the others also make me fee...
https://interpersonal.stackexchange.com/questions/8779/how-to-tell-my-boyfriend-that-i-tested-positive-for-hiv/
I'd like to know the reasons why. Very much. Because I really want to know what kind of a site this is, that I've contributed to with enthusiasm in the past.
There are a whole lot of ...
@Tinkeringbell Showering, urination, texting, and tooth-brushing, all at once? I mean, I could, but I don't think I'd be showering very effectively :-P
@TheSnarkKnight I haven't seen nearly as much DS9 as I'd like to've
Managed to get my ex's 12 year old into Star Trek when they still lived with me just so I'd have an excuse to watch it ... but he insisted on marathoning the serieses by publication chronology
(And man, that original series for all its liberalism at the time does not hold up well now, from a cultural standpoints! :-P )
Nothing about methods, just curious about motives... Like why? I never quite understand why people troll. I can understand vandalism, and arguing about specific issues, but internet trolling seems different.
@apaul there are different motives to troll. In my case, I would troll bullies, mostly. Also, take down anyone I thought was too arrogant. Right now, I troll scammers
Some do it for the LOLZ, some do it for the EVULZ, some do it because they are bored.
@apaul well, I remember once case when these people were bullying a friend of mine who was fighting cancer (she passed away from it) so I drew their fire from her by acting like a total loon.
Then, instead of feeling panicked and sad, my friend enjoyed the show.
@apaul The Evulz is the easiest to explain. Sadism + anonymity. The internet gives people a sense of power. Turns a 12 year old angel into a Nazi camp guard.
The internet is the playground of the Id
"for the LOLZ" is usually not particularly malicious, but just dropping in comments to see what happens.
But the stirring crap, just to stir crap seems odd... Like even Nazis have a specific agenda/ideology, many trolls just seem to do it randomly to piss people off...
@NVZ To the contrary my friend, because the same basic principles still apply. What MetaEd is suggesting is that foreign language answers are nevertheless answers, but their incomprehensibility makes them more appropriate for the V.L.Q. flag than the Not an Answer Flag, and that if you are not sure you should raise a custom flag.
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@apaul That's the whole goal - they like inciting anger/frustration/fear/upset and thrive on that "power" as it were
@apaul The Nazi PARTY had an agenda. The individuals didn't. That's the point. When there was any sort of opportunity to use any sort of discord, they would round up offenders, but also anyone they didn't like
@apaul you are the type of person who won't hurt people for no reason, and if you did, you'd probably regret it. While I require a reason, I will have no regrets and can understand the cruelty of those that require no reason and have no remorse.
@apaul if only that were true. Every last human being carries around dislike of the unlike. Nazis don't bother with hate. They don't have enough empathy to hate.
See, what motivated the Nazis was a simple lack of empathy combined with self interest and no consequences.
it doesn't take much to disassociate oneself from empathy. We all have that capacity, or we wouldn't have survived as a species. If Og's tribe came to raid yours, and you couldn't kill him and his raiders to protect your tribe, you all died, or the men and children did and the women were made slaves.
However, that ability in a civilized society is what allows for serial killers and dictators.
@TheSnarkKnight Dunno about that... Nazis are still people, horrifically misguided people, but still people. My friend Nazi Rob was a recovering neo-nazi, he really loved his fellow skin heads back in the day, sort of us vs them taken to ugly extremes.
@apaul a simple ingroup vs outgroup dynamic. Once that's established, all you need to do is disassociate from believing that the outgroup is human.
and, of course, the whole "punch a Nazi" thing requires you to not think of this person as a person, but as a "Nazi" who is not a person. Once you disassociate someone from their humanity, you can do anything.
@apaul While I'm very good at violence, I choose not to use it in most instances. Doing things like sending gay-interracial... er, adult videos to Stormfront, for example.... much more entertaining.
@apaul Kekistan is a mockery of both Identity and Identitarian politics. We stole the memes from the far-right and used them to annoy the far-left. Then the far right got mad that we stole their memes, so we stole some more.
@apaul so long as it's not the "all animals are equal, but some are more equal than others"
But yes, we should all be equal in the eyes of the law, so the issues of males accounting for more than three quarters of suicides, 93% of workplace fatalities, the Dululth model, and a more equal shake at custody.
@TheSnarkKnight Asking because I've found myself jumped on for mentioning support of LGBTQ activism for than a few times... Seems like some don't understand that it's a pretty broad movement and it isn't necessarily run by the loudest, most extreme voices...
@TheSnarkKnight Lovely principals that aren't always supported for the most lovely reasons... But I suppose all movements have their extremists.
@apaul well, if "activism" means inclusion and not exclusion, then no problem. BTW, when did the "L" start to come first. When I was growing up, the G always came up first
@apaul a just ends can never come from an unjust means.
@apaul Here's a question for you. If a man has no say on whether a child is born, why should he have to pay?
@apaul The pedos have been trying to sneak in for the last 30 years that I'm aware of. They're always swatted back, just saying.... always keep an eye out for them.
@TheSnarkKnight okay - I'll bite. If the man wants no responsibility for the child, they should ensure they are sterile (either temporarily or permanently)
Since a woman can choose to keep, abort, or put her baby up for adoption, all without the man's input, why should the man's only option be to pay for 18 years.
Biologically, that ain't how it works. That's kinda tough, you can't change it. If you want a say, you ensure you have a say by other means, since you don't have control of anything after the baby's conceived.
@TheSnarkKnight I'd be impressed if an unconscious drunk man can manage it - but in any case, there is no point comparing 1 or 2 extreme cases, with hundreds of thousands of cases
@TheSnarkKnight I'm sorry... but that's bullshit. Many, many women are forced by their beliefs, upbringing, families, community and government to have babies they do not want.
I can actually agree with Snark here... Because I know a girl that said no condom. I'm on the pill. When that failed... She decided to keep when the boy didn't want it. But he's paying now...
@TheSnarkKnight Nope. Men and women do not have to be treated equally. Equitably, yes - but it's dumb to propose identical treatment for cases of biology where there are fundamental differences.
@TheSnarkKnight What makes first/last a good basis for deciding who has responsibility? Reminds me of third grade - "you touched the trash last, you have to pick it up".
Literally millions of divorced men who want to use their financial support to hold wife and children hostage? Totally wanted to have families, but don't you dare leave or you can support those kids on your own...
@TheSnarkKnight That's a rather narrow opinion. Women not being able to access abortions is a global issue. It's bigger than one person donating to one charity, in one country.
I feel like @TheSnarkKnight is talking about a specific cultural context to suggest improvements to its legal system, and other people are talking about a global cultural context?
There is some bias in the system as far as custody goes, but I would guess that the majority of men ordered to pay child support who complain about it are not the same men who want full custody...
@TheSnarkKnight one way to regard it is that everything comes in cycles, so there can definitely be periods of over-correction, but it's usually in response to a prior state of disequilibrium
https://interpersonal.stackexchange.com/questions/8779/how-to-tell-my-boyfriend-that-i-tested-positive-for-hiv/
I'd like to know the reasons why. Very much. Because I really want to know what kind of a site this is, that I've contributed to with enthusiasm in the past.
There are a whole lot of ...
