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6:08 AM
Morning people!
 
Morning :)
 
How's it going for you? :)
I'm back from my holidays. I finally moved into my new house, yay to having a roof above my head!
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6:24 AM
@avazula Yay! I'm so glad for you that with everything, this finally happened (even though it was so last minute). I'm doing okay, as always ;)
 
I'm glad to hear that :)
I'm so relieved as well, yes. And I gained so much, life quality wise. My new house is a 150yo farm, I'm surrounded by trees and fields. I'm very lucky.
Guess it was worth the wait :)
 
:D
150 yo? Lots of renovating to do now? ;)
 
Not that much, but some important stuff still, yes. Like, I'll have to deal with renewing the kitchen pretty soon. I already refreshed the walls' paint/paperwall last week :)
 
Trees and fields are great :D My mom and dad visited the build site of my new apartment this weekend, and met one of the neighbors... a smoker :( I take fields and trees over the stench of cigarettes any day! :D
@avazula New kitchens are fun! :)
 
Oh no! :( Do they already live there? Like, their apartment is already finished?
Or you just met them on the construction site?
 
6:30 AM
No, their apartment is being built at the same time as mine, they just met at the site.
 
oh, ok.
 
@avazula :O
 
Hopefully they won't a) smoke in the apartment and b) clean up their ashtrays often enough for you not to have to bear the dreaded smell of cold tobacco :p
 
@Mithical I'll send you guys pictures once I'm a bit more settled :)
 
6:31 AM
That's going to be a block of 6 apartments: Three downstairs, three upstairs :)
@avazula Please do!
 
@Tink The neighbourhood seems nice and quiet :)
 
@avazula It's a new one, so not much activity/traffic yet. But the trees you can see in the background are basically the edge of the forest here :)
 
Oooh that's so nice!
 
@avazula And... I think I do hope they actually smoke inside and keep all doors and windows shut XD
 
hahaha. Depends if they live in the apartment right next to yours :p Smoke travels pretty easily :/
 
6:33 AM
@avazula Yep! I guess I will be surrounded by trees as well ;)
@avazula They do :P I have the middle one on ground level so... everyone lives next to me XD
 
lol you're surrounded!
 
Yeah, on second thought I'm not too happy with that... but the apartment itself is about one kitchen cabinet wider than the two on the corners, which also means my bathroom has an extra 50cm... which means I could get a bathtub instead of shower only... soooo....
It evens out :P
Do you only need to renovate the kitchen, or more?
 
lol
@Tinkeringbell when mine is finished... 12th floor :D
 
@JourneymanGeek that's not too bad :P
 
(current apartment is 25th floor)
 
6:41 AM
That's an improvement :D
 
bathtubs rule :D
 
Yeah!
 
@Tinkeringbell Me? Mmh, well... bathrooms don't need renovation (thank Cash, those are expensive) ... I think I'm gonna focus on building shelves and closets to store stuff, firstly because I'd like to learn woodwork, and also because I'm trying to get to minimalism and I think this is best done when everything has a special location
 
That sounds fun! I'd love to see those when finished :)
 
I have a lot a work to do outside though: the garage isn't painted nor protected, it's just bare bricks now. I have to take care of this quickly.
@Tinkeringbell I'll take pictures to show you then :)
 
6:49 AM
@avazula they do :/
(We used to have them when we were younger - parents decided we didn't need them one renovation and they would be useful now that ash is getting older :D )
 
Yeah, that helps greatly when it comes to pet pampering :p
 
Morning!
 
Hey there!
 
:)
 
@avazula well easier dog baths, and I guess we could get some warm water, hold him up and let him 'swim' :D
@avazula and willl last longer. Though... tools?
Unless you're going to go full rustic. Woodworking needs quite a bit, depending on the approach you take
 
7:00 AM
True
Although I said woodworking but it'd be some very basic building stuff
 
So i got greeted to my workplace surround by acrylic because of the virus xD
Similar thing happening in the cafeteria
 
Oof.
I think ava's woodworking is going to be prettier :P
 
Let's not expect anything fancy :p
 
Of course I do! even if it's just a very fancy shelf :D
 
@CaldeiraG oof :( which is pretty weird cause the virus lasts up to 7 days on plastic and only 24h on cardboard IIRC?
@Tinkeringbell panics in pressure lol
 
7:10 AM
@avazula everyone is already required to keep masks on during the whole shift
 
@avazula Hey, I like almost everything handmade!
 
lol
I used to have a shelf that was 2 2 dollar brackets and a strip of vinyl flooring :D
 
@avazula dayum
 
they still have places to sit in the cafe ?
isn't it better to just kick customers out after giving them their order, with a fake smile: _have a nice day_
 
@CaldeiraG Yeah, I had that obligation too yesterday ... Thankfully I managed to negotiate three more weeks of WFH because I'm regularly helping my 90yo neighbours and I didn't think it was safe to go back to the office. I did well because my offices are shared with about 100 other companies and many people would not respect the protecting measures
@Tinkeringbell True :) btw you have no idea how much fabric I found when packing my things lol
 
7:19 AM
Hey after a long time @avazula !
 
@avazula More than expected? :P
 
@ankii Hey again ankii! I was still keeping up on my mod duties but haven't been in chat much :)
@Tinkeringbell Mmh ... Nah, there was nothing I couldn't remember buying :p but still, now I have a full box of fancy patterned fabric!
 
@avazula 0_0
@avazula projects tend to accumilate? :D
 
@ankii they're all still closed over here
 
@avazula Yay! Any plans for it? :P
 
7:22 AM
@Tinkeringbell I'm certainly in the latter group( non-reviewers ) (: .. whatever I write, it works. but it's not the cleanest way to write it.
 
@JourneymanGeek Yes haha. And my perception of space is terrible so I tend to always buy too much of it ...
 
lol
I'm infamous in my family for going "Oh wait" *sound of things falling off the shelf" and pulling out the perfect tool or container
 
Who buys space. Haha.
You've been cheated.
 
@JourneymanGeek I bet you also have a drawer full of old Nokias
@M.A.R. if IKEA is selling it, and letting me set it up, count me in.
 
naw, I do have spare smartphones though
 
7:26 AM
I used to place this spaceship game thing on my mom's old Nokia
That's some tearful nostalgia
 
I have way too many old laptops in my house to not be ashamed about it
 
._.
Looks around
 
@M.A.R. I remember playing cricket & the snake xenzia(?) on one of them
 
2 desktops, 2 NUCs, I don't even know how many laptops, dating back to 2006....
 
@JourneymanGeek Pictures Wall-E
 
7:28 AM
@M.A.R. stop feeling nostalgic and buy some androids they recently launched. it's good to see a brand revive
 
@M.A.R. pretty much
 
@ankii Well I don't have a crush on Nokia or something, my phone is still newish
Mostly because I bet I don't use it as often you guys do yours
 
I use it to just toggle mobile data & hotspot
anyone uses brave browser ?
I heard that they pay you for watching curated ads on it..
 
@ankii you lunch there too
@avazula good good :)
 
@CaldeiraG NO U ;p
 
7:36 AM
as I said back then, no laptop, no WFH apparently xD and now because of a project I have 2 computers sitting on my desk :p
 
@CaldeiraG lunch sequence initiated
 
@ankii :p
 
 
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11:44 AM
woa, dead chat
 
Quick... start CPR :P
Or would that be CRP, chat resuscitation protocol?
 
lol I think that's a bus communication protocol as well
 
I think the only communication protocol buses have here is honking.
 
Hahaha
 
Oh, and the drivers sometimes wave at each other :D
I should learn to type ...
 
11:48 AM
I just hung up the phone with my former ISP. Darn they're pushing you to stay with them. I know it's not their fault, but I'm sad for the people in these calls centers who have to do this every day
I told them though, "I can't stay with you, you don't cover the area I'm moving in!" "but what about 1 month free?" :p
 
That's... a bit too much scripting :P
 
a bit yes x)
wooh, productive lunch break. I did three calls oml o_o
Moving is exhausting haha
 
That's definitely more productive than mine: I almost ended up napping because I'm somehow lazy.
 
Napping is good
:D
 
Yeah but I have to work for a few more hours XD No time for naps.
Not yet. I guess though, once work is done, I'm suddenly not lazy again.
When I go to bed I'm still wide awake.
 
11:55 AM
@Tinkeringbell oof :( are you struggling to sleep these days?
 
Nah, not struggling... just that during the day I feel I could go put my head on my desk and sleep, while at 10PM I want to do 20 other things but sleep.
 
heh yeah, everything's funnier than work :p
 
Probably, yeah :P
 
12:14 PM
@avazula I just woke up, does that qualify me for a nap?
 
Hah, LOL!
 
@Tinkeringbell ugh, that's so disgusting
 
Finally, a use for kpop XD
 
Or did the kpop fans take over that hashtag?
 
@Rainbacon To the point that Twitter lists it under 'kpop - Trending' yeah XD
 
12:19 PM
Ok, that's not as bad then
 
Though I do agree with you that the fact that they can keep a hashtag trending like this and give it visibility does illustrate a more disgusting side of social media :|
Forgot that for a while, sorry.
 
@Rainbacon Idk. Was it a short night of sleep? :p
 
But I just about threw up this morning when I saw a post on FB from a woman I used to go to church with saying that "all lives matter" and praising Trump for "keeping all americans safe"
@avazula Nah, it was like 7 hours
 
@Rainbacon A is true though I see no way how that leads to B!
 
@avazula the best way to cancel your contract is to send a written letter using the fact that you may need to sue them
They'll not ignore your request
and it's best than calling the retention department
 
12:22 PM
@Tinkeringbell "all lives matter" is usually a way of dismissing "black lives matter", unfortunately
 
That doesn't make it less true though.
It probably makes it an uncomfortable truth then.
or.. an inconvenient truth?
I think the latter one fits better.
 
also ava, sometimes ISP's have a termination form example available on their website, probably under some pretty small letters so watch out for that :P
 
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@Tinkeringbell no it doesn't, but I've never seen anyone use it who actually believed that black lives mattered as much as white lives
 
12:27 PM
@Rainbacon Because those people are probably smart enough not to jump on the purity spiral ;)
 
@CaldeiraG hehe, I actually looked at the process before undertaking it, so I knew they were gonna try to dissuade me :p
 
@avazula :P good good
 
Thanks though :) I appreciate
 
@Mithical i realized this after spending some time on twitter a few days ago
and I now get it why it's not ideal to say all lives matter
@avazula you're welcome :)
with that said i'm taking a break on social media and spending my downtime on reddit instead
atleast i can see what stupidities people did over at r/aita :P
 
@CaldeiraG if you're looking for kinda wholesome content to unwind and if you have a sweet tooth for music I can't help but recommend watching Roomie's videos on Youtube
 
12:31 PM
@CaldeiraG "I cleaned a place with tear gas so I could get my pictures taken, aita?" :P
 
@CaldeiraG I spent thirty minutes on Twitter, because I couldn't keep updates a few days earlier about what really happened
 
I've been semi obsessed with his content over the last few months haha
 
I immediately got out because if I stay a bit longer, I would've needed a therapist.
 
@avazula isn't that youtuber the musician one? i remember that name
 
@CaldeiraG yup
 
12:32 PM
@Tinkeringbell XD YTA
@avazula It pops up on my feed sometimes
it's nice :)
@M.A.R. my twitter is trump only now because a lot of people that I follow are responding to some tweets of Trump and BLM movement
 
He's made me wanna go back to music more
 
yay :D
 
So now that I've moved in I set all my instruments up in my office ... all I need is to buy a soundcard now so that I can record myself :D
 
cool beans :P
 
@avazula all? How many are there? :)
 
12:38 PM
@CaldeiraG The only thing that keeps cracking me up is the "CHAINA" video
 
@Tinkeringbell mmh ... I have 4 and one mic, 5 if you count my spouse's bass that I'm dying to borrow x)
 
Nice!
That's a lot :D
@Mithical This is, btw, called a controlled burn: Where professional firefighters stop the fire from spreading, in order to save what can actually be saved :)
 
@Tinkeringbell Yup! But 2 of them are guitars, 1 is uku, and the other one is a keyboard (I'm trying to learn but piano is hard for me)
 
@avazula Piano is hard, indeed. I used to have a keyboard too (gave it away a few summers back), but I never got the hang of it. I have been thinking about getting actual piano lessons once I have my own place though. Getting back into music would be nice, I think.
 
@Tinkeringbell I wish you do :) music is amazing
 
12:44 PM
Piano? I've also been thinking about violin, or some kind of flute...
There's too many nice instruments XD
 
true haha. But piano might be easier to begin with
 
Oh, I played instruments in the past... started with flute, then mandolin.
 
ooooh
I didn't know :D
 
I don't think I ever told :)
So, violin would have the same string sequence as a mandolin (GDAE), I already did flute before that (I think it's called a 'recorder' in English, that's what translate gives?)
That flute is the basic instrument here, most kids learn to play that first when they also learn to read notes. Only if you've passed a certain basic level entry test, are you allowed into group lessons for other musical instruments at 'music schools'
 
1:02 PM
@Tinkeringbell same here
 
same
even though I never had flute lessons in school
My teacher was a choir man
Glee club all year long 8)
 
Oh music class in school was mostly chimes XD
I think glee club sounds better :D
 
I was a choir kid for a very long time
I miss it ngl
 
Oh! I actually did kid's choir for a few years (2?) but that was church things...
 
I sang at my friend's wedding last summer, brought back so many nice memories
 
1:06 PM
unrelated subject: i realized my free gamepass from my pc order only finishes on september, associating my paypal in the account gave a extra month of game pass :)
 
I wish we had one of those agnostic cruches they have in England where people gather on Sundays to spend an hour singing together :D
@CaldeiraG Noice!
 
and i still have another one of these so i basically got a year off
6 months + 1 goes up to december
 
@avazula Well, given that I'm only allowed to sing in the shower here (when there's no-one home)... I'll stick with playing an instrument ;)
 
@Tinkeringbell Oh me too. My wife is a trained singer (she's been taking private lessons from a broadway voice coach for several years) and she gives me dirty looks when I try to sing :)
 
My mind didn't read that the way you intended it to be read
 
1:13 PM
Oh? How did your mind read it?
 
The instrument I'm most comfortable with is my table
 
Tables are nice :)
Multi-purpose :D
 
I love tables
I sit on them
Cause chairs are overrated
 
I mostly like dinner tables. Sitting there means food :D
 
1:34 PM
Maybe I should start doing that, because our chairs keep falling apart
 
1:54 PM
It's production time
Whose idea was it to do this at 4PM
 
Like, you are deploying to production?
 
yes
 
Oh, we deploy to production several times a day
Really beats my first job where we could only deploy to prod on Fridays at 6pm
 
What a convenient time /s
 
2:10 PM
:D I'm on a team that doesn't do the deployments themselves. Best thing ever XD
 
@Tinkeringbell back when we did the 6pm deployments, we didn't do it ourselves, but we had to be around in-case it failed because then it was on us to fix it
 
Ah yeah. That is kinda the thing here too, though I mostly succesfully dodge that XD
I think my first time is going to be somewhere at the end of the month/early July, when they're going to run a script I made as part of a big migration... I should be there then.
 
Oh do you have some sort of rotation where only one person has to be available or have you just not put any code into production yet?
 
Oh, a bunch of my code has gone into production, but they mostly pick senior people for the job. And I'm totally fine with that, this is one thing where I'm not going to ask to learn XD
 
ah
 
2:57 PM
@Rainbacon I'm jealous of you real CICD guys
 
@avazula Oh, I don't think of myself has having real CICD, though I guess I'm a lot closer to it than you are
 
@Rain hehe :D I used to be much closer but healthcare and CICD don't mix together, at all. It's at such a point that it's written in the ISO that our software development cycle must be waterfall.
gotta trace everything, ya know
 
3:20 PM
@avazula eww
 
@Rainbacon yup. big sad.
 
3:54 PM
Re the twitter stuff above, I feel that they've bumped up the number of viral BLM tweets in everyone's feed. Even if I don't follow their authors.
I wasn't seeing such out of the blue tweets in this number a week ago
 
The number of viral BLM posts has increased dramatically over the past week.
 
My IG is almost completely black
 
@avazula So it matches the hearts in my hometown :/
I don't keep up with many people from my hometown anymore, but it's not a good place and there are far too many people there who either don't care, or actively oppose BLM
 
:(
 
@Rainbacon at least they'll be safe from arrests in the terrorist org .... drumroll ... antifa
hmm that sounded better in my head
 

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