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10:04 PM
There really aren't any social skills that are women only or men only.
What there is are different sets of life experiences. Get to know people who aren't like yourself. Their experiences will be much more informative and useful than hearing another cis het man's life story.
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so, listen, without invalidating anyone's feelings ...
I'd have to admit that while I understand that now ^
it is hard to do because ...
it's not really the case that women listen to me, if I have something to say about my own thoughts / feelings ...
my feelings are invalidated often, too, it seems ...
 
user15026
It's always good to listen to the groups whose voices aren't being heard. So if you just listen to more male voices, you're going to miss out on important things because while they may think they know how women work and think and act and why and all of that, at the end of the day, they're not actually women, so they lack practised experience.
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@D.Hutchinson You're thinking about this the wrong way round...
 
@D.Hutchinson That doesn't change the fact that you should be listening more.
 
user15026
Sometimes, you have to know when your feelings are in no way important to the current issue at hand.
 
user15026
10:15 PM
Going back to last night - while it's all well and good that you'd be okay with someone coming up and interrupting you to ask you out, you're missing so much of the "female experience" as it were, so it doesn't equate to being the same at all.
 
user15026
So at that point, what you'd do or think matters little to not at all, because you're lacking the bits of it all that you literally do not experience in the same way as women do, being a (assuming) straight cis male.
 
user15026
Does that help?
 
yeah ... it does ...
thanks @ash ...
 
user15026
Anyway, I'm kinda done discussing this as a thing. I think we've said pretty much all that can be said here.
 
true ...
thanks everyone ...
 
10:19 PM
I think that, at this point, if y'all want to continue the conversation, it'd be best done in another space.
Any of you can create your own chat room and invite people there... Thanks.
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I'm ready to move on, actually ... thanks @Catija ...
 
Prime example: One of my flatmates (a guy) was out in short shorts (he runs a lot). a couple of days ago and someone yelled at him (in a derogatory way) that he was a "gay boy". He feels uncomfortable, but not threatened. He gets back to flat and tells us this. The 2 girls in the flat then say that they can get this kind of behaviour several times per day (depending on factors), only they also feel threatened by this kind of behaviour.
There's so much men in general aren't aware of simply because they're not women
 
OK... Like I said... we're moving on now.
 
@Catija yeah, sorry, I was typing and didn't notice the above message :P
 
So... About that other subject?
 
10:26 PM
@apaul What subject? Do you mean getting rick-rolled in High Valyrian?
 
Does anyone else want to tell the OP at interpersonal.stackexchange.com/q/9798/378 that Emily is clearly seeing things in his relationship with Rachel that he needs to address before trying to patch things up with Emily?
 
Umm... What else you got? lol
@1006a What?
 
@apaul checks list of random videos for such an occasion how about cello wars?
 
@Mithrandir24601 Piano guys are magical.
 
Or, one of my favourites: "Rachmaninov had big Hands"
@Catija Yeah, I saw then in a concert a few years back - it was great craic as we'd say at home :)
 
10:33 PM
@Mithrandir24601 That's actually pretty good lol
 
@apaul The question "How can I convince my partner to accept my best friend instead of wanting to break up?" sounds almost exactly like the love-triangle plot from the sitcom Friends--Ross's wife, Emily, was jealous of his friendship with Rachel (with pretty good reason), and gave him an ultimatum, friendship or marriage. Ross chose the marriage at first, but then waffled.
 
@1006a Ah... Not familiar enough with the show to put that together.
 
user15026
@apaul Me neither, I was like "the question doesn't mention names!"
 
@Ash Ya, I went back to double check that too.
 
10:48 PM
It was kind of famous back around the turn of the millennium in the US; when people talk about next-day water cooler debates, this is the issue that comes to mind for me. It was enough of a cultural thing that when I went to verify my memory of the wife's name, a buzzfeed article from last year was my first hit: buzzfeed.com/sheridanwatson/… But for folks outside that demographic I imagine it's pretty obscure.
 
user15026
I watched it some, when it first aired, but I never got into it the way some people did.
 
user15026
I never really found it all that interesting to be perfectly honest
 
@Ash I watched about 5 minutes once, thought it was rubbish, then never watched it again
 
@Ash I watched it, but not religiously. However, that particular issue was really polarizing, to the point that people who didn't watch the show at all had an opinion on whether the ultimatum was controlling and unreasonable, or a reasonable reaction to Ross's behavior. I was in the same age range as the characters, and everyone I knew had an opinion, whether they watched it or not.
 
user15026
I watched it when people around me were watching it but that's really about it
 
10:57 PM
This question has almost exactly the same underlying dynamic, and the comments are already very reminiscent of the water cooler debate, so if it were a different kind of site I'd be saying "Ross, is that you?"
 
user15026
@1006a fair enough - my experience was vastly different than yours in that regard :)
 
@1006a Sitcoms are kinda like that, no?
 
I should say, every woman I knew had an opinion; I don't recall that the men around me were nearly as het up.
 

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