The Awkward Silence

@Catija Hm, potentially? I have no idea, been a good long while since I looked up mailing rules for foodstuff like that, and also like...I suspect just the process of being in the mail would mean I got a box of crumbs :P

user15026

(although hey add some frosting and you are most of the way to cake pops :P)

Catija

:D

apaul

If you have a break room at work you could probably dispose of much cake there. Brownie points are a real thing.

Catija

It's probably actually fine.

@apaul Sure. And I do that all the time but it's a holiday tomorrow for us, so they'd be a bit more stale. :P

user15026

4:25 AM

@apaul Cake points in this case :P

apaul

True true

When my dad was in the service stationed in England my mom's family sent her a frozen turkey for Thanksgiving. She spent a good half hour arm deep in the bird looking for giblets that had apparently been removed by customs.

Catija

:/

user15026

@apaul For some reason this is making me laugh a whole lot

apaul

Makes most people laugh. Catija just takes her mod duties too seriously when it comes to fun ;)

ArtOfCode

fun what's that

Catija

4:31 AM

How do you spend a half hour looking for giblets in a turkey?

user15026

@ArtOfCode I think it involves cake, possibly kittens, maybe running through sprinklers

user15026

(ahahahaha better link that reply, because otherwise it looks like I am telling @Catija thats' how you spend a half hour inside a turkey)

apaul

@ArtOfCode Ugh... You people... Denial is not only a river in Egypt.

ArtOfCode

apaul

@Catija First time away from home making a turkey on her own.

"Isn't it ironic, don't you think, a little too ironic, yes I really do think..." @ArtOfCode

@Ash Both. Both is good.

user15026

4:35 AM

:D

user15026

That does oddly remind me I have some of my mom's chocolate chip shortbread now :)

apaul

Anyway... Would shipping cake be on topic for seasoned advice, or better for travel?

Catija

Uh... not SA... unless you were asking how to pack/preserve it. The legalities would be off topic.

apaul

Probably better to split it into two questions. Pack/preserve on SA, legality on travel. Not sure if shipping items would be on topic though...

user15026

I don't think shipping is on topic on travel

apaul

4:41 AM

@Ash I'd think they'd be the go to for customs questions...

user15026

Customs isn't the same as shipping tho

user15026

Like it gets handled differently in some cases

user15026

And it can also depend on the shipper

apaul

Then again... I live in the US and I have a serious cake deficiency...

user15026

And various other things

user15026

4:43 AM

@apaul That's just tragic!

apaul

I may be in danger of overdosing on cookies. But cake is cake.

user15026

Cookies are good but when you want cake, only cake will do

apaul

@ArtOfCode Observe. Fun being had :P

ArtOfCode

@apaul I'm having fun too :P

it's just a different sort of fun

the sort where I get to play with cryptographic primitives

apaul

@ArtOfCode Oooo I'm telling!

@ArtOfCode oh... Nevermind.

ArtOfCode

4:46 AM

hehehe

apaul

@Ash Cookies are much more portable than cake. Also endlessly available where I work, which is beginning to show... Mayhaps cake could be the methadone of cookies.... I will have to experiment and report back.

user15026

@apaul Let me know how that science works for you, I am curious about your results and would like to subscribe to your scientific journal

apaul

Well, "beginning" is probably a bit generous.

I should probably just start having more than coffee and smokes for breakfast before work, then the cookies may lose their power over me. Damn tricksy cookies.

@Ash I'm a terrible scientist. I'm the sort that tries the experiment over and over expecting different results.

user15026

@apaul In this case it means more cookies though :D

apaul

So it's not all bad ;)

So, is Canada as frozen as advertised?

Catija

4:58 AM

apaul

Tada!

Catija

Well, the "tada" comes when I get it out of the pan.

user15026

@apaul Right now it's decently cold

apaul

@Catija Oh ya, got a little over zealous there

@Ash Define "decently cold"

user15026

Cold enough my mom stuck the leftover casserole in a pan in the uninsulated back room (it's like a little storage thing stuck on the back of the house) instead of the fridge because it's cold enough it will keep there fine for a few days

user15026

5:01 AM

-11C feels like -18C

apaul

@Ash Like spare freezer space or refrigerator space?

Oh that's indecent.

user15026

@apaul Effectively, yes - like it's not intended to be that, it's just a random room

user15026

but it's cold enough that since it's not insulated and it's just walls and concrete floor, she can use it that way

apaul

Florida cold is a very different thing.

It's "cold" here when the mosquitos lay off. It hasn't dropped below freezing yet this year.

We have a city called Frostproof

Kinda our only selling point.

user15026

@apaul The other week it was -21 feels like -32C

user15026

5:12 AM

So this is an improvement

apaul

@Ash it was 80f a few days ago. I miss seasons.

Here we have crazy hot Hurricane season and sorta autumn.

user15026

We have seasons mostly kinda

user15026

I did like being in Atlanta a couple weeks ago and being able to wear like...just my hoodie and my super magical jean jacket that I've covered in awesome patches

user15026

instead of like hoodie, big coat, boots, hat, scarf, mittens, STILL COLD

apaul

I got the gift of electricity on my birthday after hurricane Irma. That was pretty epic. Love a good solid storm. It's weird, but it's one of the few times you get the whole power of nature feeling down here.

@Ash I too have a super magical jacket covered in patches.

user15026

5:21 AM

See that sort of thing terrifies me

user15026

@apaul highfives I knew I liked you. :P

user15026

Like hurricanes, tornadoes, all that just nope

apaul

@Ash Eh, just wind and rain. They're never as fun as advertised in my neck of the woods.

user15026

Alright, its 12:20 am, time for this human to do the sleeping thing

user15026

Good night, lovely people :)

apaul

5:24 AM

I'm really looking forward to the whole breakdown of organized society, but I'm always disappointed.

Catija

... you really are an anarchist...

apaul

@Ash night night.

@Catija I try ;)

Catija

You'll appreciate that my bundt was a failure, then... I mean... it's still cake but it's not a cake. :sigh:

apaul

@Catija does it taste good?

Catija

I don't know.

I just make cakes... I don't eat them.

apaul

5:26 AM

@Catija why the hell not?

Catija

We're not supposed to be eating carbs right now... because... um... some stupid diet.

apaul

@Catija Be a rebel, it's good... For... Reasons...

Catija

I made four cakes... Isn't that rebellion enough???

Do I have to eat them, too!?!

apaul

@Catija not if you deny your self the simple pleasure of cake.

Catija

There are a lot of simple pleasures that must be denied in the interest of health.

apaul

5:29 AM

There are few pleasures in this world. Cake is one. Taste it.

Like it's not heroine. It could be worse... 😈

Catija

Heroin?

apaul

I could spell once upon a time ;)

Catija

As could I eat cake... :P

apaul

Not really, just jokes.

Catija

Americans ruin everything... I just saw one of those idiotic cooking videos for "BLT sushi"... It uses bacon instead of rice and includes no raw fish.

But, hey... it's "low carb"...

apaul

5:36 AM

Catija

@apaul I hear that paperweights are useful.

apaul

Are you not entertained by my clichés?

@Catija people used to order two fried eggs and two sides of bacon in the interest of "low carb"

Catija

... isn't that just normal breakfast?

OK, not two sides of bacon... two slices...

apaul

@Catija with some potatoes and pancakes maybe.

Catija

This morning I had "Eggs Francisco"... English muffin layered with scrambled eggs*, bacon*, tomato, avocado & queso. Served with two Breakfast Sides

apaul

5:46 AM

@Catija This morning I had coffee and cigarettes. Very low card and calorie ;)

Catija

Not the way I drink coffee :P

apaul

Just sayin there's a difference between healthy and dieting lol

Catija

There's all sorts of arguments about what's "healthy" anyway.

apaul

Live fast die young ;)

Catija

I'd like at least 30-40 more years... I have a small person to get raised.

apaul

5:48 AM

Quality of life is way more important.

Taste the cake 😈

I may be a bad influence...

Catija

I have to get photos of all of them together.

And I need to move the laundry to the dryer... and my foot's asleep.

apaul

@Catija Them?

Catija

All three of the big cakes with the baby ones. The entire cake family.

apaul

I thought Ben fell asleep on Andy for a second there lol

Sorry, I'm mean.

Taste them, you know you want to 😈

Catija

Can't walk to kitchen.

apaul

5:56 AM

You can do it!

Catija

Foot hurts so bad.

Jarko Dubbeldam

good morning

ps: it's late ;)

apaul

No cake is a failure if it tastes good.

Jarko Dubbeldam

@apaul well....

I'm not sure if I agree

Catija

I'm a failure. My cake is hideous.

Jarko Dubbeldam

5:58 AM

I once tried to make chocolate chip cake

apaul

@JarkoDubbeldam Ugh Dutch people...

Jarko Dubbeldam

It failed, since all the chocolate fell to the bottom, so there just was a huge crust of chocolate stuck to the bottom of the tin

apaul

@Catija gotta taste it 😈

@JarkoDubbeldam Did it taste good?

Jarko Dubbeldam

sorta kinda, some bits were not done yet, some bits were burnt

Catija

:/

Jarko Dubbeldam

6:00 AM

Most of all it was hard to eat, since it was stuck to the tin :p

apaul

@JarkoDubbeldam look for the bright side in these situations. As long as it's edible and it makes you smile, it's a success ;)

Catija

... someone's Pollyanna tonight...

And it's not me.

Jarko Dubbeldam

yeah, it's the most important part, but looks count for some

apaul

@Catija Hey now. That's mean :P

Catija

I'm grumpy because my cake sucks.

Jarko Dubbeldam

6:04 AM

well, maybe if you eat it it gets better

because of two things: 1) You won't have to look at the ugly cake anymore, 2) you're eating cake

Catija

...

apaul

I once screwed up Jello no bake cheese cake while much inebriated. We called it "The awful" but it made my friend's boyfriend very happy. Still a small success.

Eating cake usually helps...

Catija

And my thought is... why were you even doing that. :P

ArtOfCode

@Catija failed cake does not a failed person make

2

Catija

@ArtOfCode Yes it does. You are what you bake.

apaul

6:08 AM

@Catija much inebriated is a reason, not an excuse, but a reason...

ArtOfCode

put it this way: you didn't make a meringue and forget to put the sugar in it

actual thing I've done

Jarko Dubbeldam

Another way to look at it:

You now have a good excuse to make another cake

Catija

Because four wasn't enough?

Jarko Dubbeldam

is there ever enough cake?

Catija

There is if you don't really like cake...

apaul

6:10 AM

@JarkoDubbeldam No.

Jarko Dubbeldam

@Catija you don't really like cake?

apaul

@Catija Heresy!

Jarko Dubbeldam

well, that's fine, but then why were you making cake?

ArtOfCode

oh dear an excuse to make pie instead

what a disaster ;)

Catija

ArtOfCode

6:11 AM

@Catija I see nothing wrong with this cake

Catija

@ArtOfCode Shog told me to make a pie while I was waiting for the cakes to bake... but I don't think I have the ingredients.

@ArtOfCode That's because I've artfully pieced it back together.

I'm not an A&C mod for nothing... ;)

apaul

You people and your pie...

Catija

Oh, wait... the CMs don't pick us for our subject matter expertise.

ArtOfCode

@Catija that is a perfectly acceptable tactic for any situation other than serving the Queen herself

Jarko Dubbeldam

@ArtOfCode I'd say even for her, as long as she doesn't notice

Catija

6:12 AM

@ArtOfCode Andy's coworker is coming over tomorrow and he's sort of a queen.

ArtOfCode

and even she wouldn't complain if you had good ice cream too

@Catija drama queens don't count

Catija

Crap... crying baby, three minutes on the clock... what's more important... baby or cake???

Tinkeringbell

@Catija That, together with eating next to nothing yesterday is making me hungry

ArtOfCode

@Catija baby in one arm, cake in the other hand

apaul

@Catija Phrasing...

@Catija Baby.

Tinkeringbell

6:14 AM

@Catija isn't it one of those cries that will stop on it's own after 5 minutes? :)

Catija

@Tinkeringbell He's teething... so I'm guessing he needs more baby crack.

(aka baby motrin)

Spouse to the rescue!!!

Tinkeringbell

Ah... That's bad...

apaul

@Catija Crack is bad mkay. Shouldn't give your baby crack.

Tinkeringbell

The teething I mean ;)

Catija

Now we wait.

apaul

6:20 AM

You all should help me peer pressure Catija into tasting her own cake. There's only one real reason to bake cake, after all...

Catija

This one didn't get the rise I was expecting.

Tinkeringbell

@apaul yeah. Which is to share with others ;)

apaul

#bad influence

Catija

#youcantputspacesinhashtags

apaul

@Tinkeringbell "share" would imply...

@Catija psh #I do what I want

Tinkeringbell

6:22 AM

@apaul so... You said you wanted help....

apaul

@Tinkeringbell "help" is a relative term.

Tinkeringbell

Okay... I'll shut up ;)

I'm going to try and eat some breakfast.. later!

Catija

Do or do not; there is no try.

apaul

Seriously how can one make cake and not taste it?

Catija

How can you taste it without it being obvious you ate some?

apaul

6:26 AM

@Catija very carefully.

Catija

Anyway. I still have to make the glaze for the chocolate one, the cream cheese frosting for the coffee cake, and the icing for the almond cake.

My oven timer is really annoying.

apaul

@Catija very industrious for someone who doesn't want cake...

Do it 😈

Catija

When did I say I don't want cake?

Well... cake four didn't stick... but it has freckles.

apaul

Oh. Ya. Stone cold.

Catija

apaul

6:32 AM

@Catija That's just sexy.

Catija

?

How is that "sexy"?

My friend gave me the pan for my wedding.

apaul

Cause cake.

Catija

That's why I have four.... I had one (the one I did the coffee cake in) but I wanted to upgrade... I got the three I have now as wedding gifts.

It looks like it's a glass that has watermarks from a dishwasher in a city that has hard water.

apaul

Cake is a sufficient reason.

ArtOfCode

@Catija throw some fine icing sugar over the top, nobody'll even know

Catija

6:35 AM

It's getting a glaze... that may help. Making it now...

apaul

What's wrong with that cake?

Catija

It looks like Pippy Longstocking.

apaul

You say that like it's a bad thing?

Does Pippy Longstocking taste bad? ;)

Catija

ewww

apaul

Ya... That was inappropriate...

Catija

6:41 AM

I'm using vanilla bean paste instead of extract, so at the very least, the spots will have spots...

apaul

Phrasing n so on and so on

Jokes are funny... Most of the time...

Catija

I may have thinned it too much... it's spreading a lot.

NVZ

THE CAKE IS A LIE!

apaul

@Catija So... About shipping cake?

Catija

@apaul You want a heart?

apaul

6:48 AM

@NVZ Heresy!

@Catija I do.

Catija

:D We'll see how they go over tomorrow.

NVZ

@apaul You may now ~~kiss~~ eat the cake.

apaul

@NVZ Om nomnomnomnom

So... cake is good. The followers of pie are misguided.

ArtOfCode

const isGood = (thing) => {
  return `${thing} is ${thing.isSweet ? 'good' : 'not good'}!`;
};

apaul

There is one true religion and it is cake. Carry on.

Catija

7:01 AM

@ArtOfCode Sure... if you say so.

ArtOfCode

@Catija I do :P

all things are good as long as they're sweet

Catija

.... people who can't use English.... bah!

ArtOfCode

whaddaya mean my English is perfectly adequate :P

apaul

@ArtOfCode The English barely grasp the language :P

Catija

Well, in that sentence, it's missing some punctuation....

My Fair Lady - Why Can't The English?

►

ArtOfCode

7:05 AM

@Catija sure is :)

apaul

Pedantic much? @Catija

Catija

It's my thing...

apaul

@Catija we all have to be good at something.

Catija

I'm good at referencing MFL...

apaul

Mfl?

Catija

7:08 AM

My Fair Lady...

The hat...

apaul

Ah... Little slow on the uptake, but ya.

Catija

Next year, I'll try this one... though, probably will be better out of chocolate than gingerbread. ;)

apaul

Ambitious

Catija

Yeah, who am I kidding... not going to happen :P

But I got mentioned in the blog, so that's cool.

apaul

How many tabs now?

Catija

7:11 AM

Um... probably the same as yesterday.

I have a couple of random ones that I use just for looking things up in Google.

apaul

pokes the bear

Catija

Where?

apaul

They're in there with their bear

There I said it

Catija

?

apaul

Bad quotes, don't mind me.

Schaffer The Darklord - The Way You Talk

►

apaul

7:29 AM

Where my time zone people at?

Catija

Asleep? Dude, it's like 2:30 am in your timezone :P

Extroverted Main Man

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Q: Writing supply conditions that define customer's deadline

I'm a freelance since 10 year and I develop hardware and software. Usually the pattern of a job is the following: A customer contacts me asking for something I submit him a quote with the proposal of my supply conditions If he accepts and signs the quote I do my job He helps me to validate the ...

customer-interactions

apaul

Gotta keep the ball rolling. Come on folks. We all have a job to do. The awkwardness gets weird otherwise. Get on it.

Jarko Dubbeldam

@apaul exactly, some of us are working you know ;)

apaul

@JarkoDubbeldam Priorities...

Catija

7:34 AM

apaul

@Catija Nope

@Catija Mmmm

OK, I'm done.

you missed a spot

@Catija night ;)

:/

7:37 AM

The fuck?

Catija

How is that on the site for five hours???

Tinkeringbell

No one is keeping an eye on that question I guess?

Jarko Dubbeldam

idk

flaggered it at least

maybe I should've flagged r/a though

Tinkeringbell

@JarkoDubbeldam metoo

@JarkoDubbeldam that's what I did

@Catija are you going to delete it from chat as well?

apaul

Feeling a might stabby

Catija

7:43 AM

How so?

Tinkeringbell

@apaul You should go to bed, you're not making sense anymore.... describe what 'a might stabby' means please? :)

apaul

Removed...

Catija

@apaul Huh? I thought you were in Florida?

ArtOfCode

@Catija Ain't it like 2 AM over there?

Catija

@ArtOfCode Nearly 3.

apaul

7:45 AM

@insidesin Must feel good to be a dude bro amongst dude bros... Did you get lost on your way to Reddit? — apaul 3 mins ago

Catija

It's 2 AM here.

@apaul Down boy. He can't respond anyway.

Tinkeringbell

@apaul Better get that outta here too ;)

apaul

Puppy kickers :P

Tinkeringbell

At least I know understand what 'a might stabby' means I guess ;P

My mp3 player keeps crashing :(

apaul

DB has a fun double meaning for the uninitiated...

Catija

7:50 AM

Oh?

apaul

Dude bro and/or douche bag

ArtOfCode

y'all mind if I turn the topic dark for a while? I wouldn't mind some advice, but I'd rather not post it on site...

Tinkeringbell

Do we want to be initiated?

Catija

@ArtOfCode Well, it is night time...

Tinkeringbell

@ArtOfCode Oh I love hearing the latest gossip! :P

ArtOfCode

7:51 AM

@Catija Sun just came up over here

well technically it doesn't for another 8 minutes, but eh

Catija

Clearly, the one thing that everyone on IPS has in common... is that we're nosy.

ArtOfCode

okay... TL;DR: Friend of mine is being sexually harassed at school.

apaul

And mostly dark...

Catija

@ArtOfCode Ages ish? I don't actually know how old you are...

Tinkeringbell

@ArtOfCode Words only? or actions as well?

ArtOfCode

7:53 AM

@Catija she's... uh... conversions... 10th grade?

Catija

16ish?

ArtOfCode

aye

@Tinkeringbell both. More words, but both.

Tinkeringbell

@ArtOfCode Yuk.... :/

ArtOfCode

Anyway, she dealt with it for a while, then told the staff, who did nothing

then told me, and I sent an angry email to the staff, and they did... something

dunno what, but apparently it involved telling the harassers to stop being asses

Catija

That sounds... insufficient.

Tinkeringbell

7:55 AM

Which of course only made it worse....

apaul

Kicking is more satisfying than most would want to admit?

ArtOfCode

@Tinkeringbell they kept her anonymous, because I told them I'd have their heads if they didn't

(maybe not quite those words)

so far so meh... but then they also told her that if she reports it again then she can't be anonymous again

Catija

Well, if they're doing it to only her, anonymity isn't much of a shield.

ArtOfCode

which brings us to the present and me wondering wtf now

apaul

That's bullshit.

Tinkeringbell

7:56 AM

@ArtOfCode You should try getting into law ;) I wouldn't have thought of shutting that door...

Catija

How long ago did they claim to have talked to them?

ArtOfCode

@Catija this time last week

Tinkeringbell

Has it stopped?

Catija

Has she seen them?

apaul

Give them a limp they feel every time it gets cold out.

ArtOfCode

7:57 AM

it's been going on since last term - she reported last week of the autumn term, which is when they did nothing; my email was Monday last week and they got back to me same day saying they'd do something asap

@Tinkeringbell nein

@Catija yep

Jarko Dubbeldam

hmm, what options are there to escalate?

ArtOfCode

she's friends with some of the same people... which is kinda messed up, but there ya go

Tinkeringbell

@apaul I agree, self-defense classes might be a very good idea...

Catija

Does the school have any sort of policy on this?

ArtOfCode

@JarkoDubbeldam not a huge amount. They got an associate headteacher involved, so there's only one administrative level above that

okay two, technically - headteacher and board of governors

apaul

7:59 AM

@Tinkeringbell defense of others still works in court...

ArtOfCode

@Catija not a clue. Nothing I can find on the public website, and they didn't have one when I was there three years ago

Tinkeringbell

@ArtOfCode That's really something that she has to realize in my experience... No amount of nagging is going to change that, she has to realize these people are toxic and cut them out of her life....

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