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12:07 AM
@John old timers :D
 
 
1 hour later…
1:20 AM
@John "Old-timers" after 26 days? :-)
 
2:08 AM
@HDE226868 Apparently we're mosquitoes.
 
:bzzzzzz:
 
swat
Hey @HDE226868
 
@Catija googles "mosquito lifespan"
Hey, I should have been dead 16 days ago!
@Catija @GypsySpellweaver Hey there.
 
@HDE226868 Which is why you're an oldtimer.
 
:splat:
 
2:14 AM
Females apparently survive for 42 - 56 days ... odd.
 
Gestation, maybe?
 
They lay eggs...
 
@Catija Less energy wasted on the displays of testosterone .
 
Clearly it's because the females are the ones who live on the life force (blood) of other living creatures.
 
@Catija . . . Right.
 
2:16 AM
> Males typically live for about 5–7 days, feeding on nectar and other sources of sugar. After obtaining a full blood meal, the female will rest for a few days while the blood is digested and eggs are developed. This process depends on the temperature, but usually takes two to three days in tropical conditions. Once the eggs are fully developed, the female lays them and resumes host-seeking.
 
Already there.
 
Only females eat blood.
 
> The cycle repeats itself until the female dies. While females can live longer than a month in captivity, most do not live longer than one to two weeks in nature. Their lifespans depend on temperature, humidity, and their ability to successfully obtain a blood meal while avoiding host defenses and predators.
 
Huh. Interesting.
 
I'd rather deal with a mosquito than a tick. Although ticks live much longer.
Time for reading and then bed for me. Good night, all.
 
2:23 AM
Night!
 
Someone once gave a recipe for raising mosquitoes. B. Franklin or M.Twain most likely.
Night
 
2:57 AM
Hello all
 
Yo, Joe. What you know?
 
Most of my conversational knowledge is bout dogs, so a LOT of different dog breeds I suppose
Like did you know that dogs can smell your feelings
Alright, that is enough interaction for one night, Good Night
 
3:40 AM
Ah. Silence.
 
Blessed silence
 
You know... I've been thinking a little bit.
 
Silence is good for that.
 
lol
 
Are your thoughts fruitful?
 
3:48 AM
Meh. Still salty.
I think I'm just over thinking everything I see around here :P
 
Assigning too much importance to these things?
 
No, but just being very critical of many things that I see.
I'm not sure how to explain it, my mind is very fuzzy right now
 
Is the looking out an escape from looking in?
 
Who knows
 
 
1 hour later…
5:09 AM
Hope cross-site junk don't infect us here.
 
I did too but voting suggests otherwise
Funny enough how that works
How can i best phrase a interpersonal question abt this?
 
Delicately?
 
"How can i deal with someone obsessed with me on a website?
Said person follows me around on multiple sections of a site downvoting me or un-upvoting me. Any attempt at asking a question gets targeted
Pleas for support from the moderation get ignored out of spite or support for the troll.
They constantly makeup reasons to delete my comments or ban me
@GypsySpellweaver if you can elaborate that be great
 
Well, if one was involved there, and their friend is here, you might have similar trouble here.
The question, once asked, might be recognized by the friend, and attract more attention.
I'm basically new to SE, and I hate politics in general, and even more so when people seem to be doing things out of spite.
The only thing I can think of, which you probably have done already anyway, is to contact SE officials, rather than mods.
Don't know where it is, but I've seen mention of a "contact us" link in several meta posts.
 
Also ignored
Whatever, posted. I expect the same two people to downvote
 
5:24 AM
Not sure if it would cause more trouble or less, but it is possible to email Community Managers as well. I've heard that Tim Post is good at personality issues. Maybe email him directly?
Oh.
 
And later got the sci-fi chat closed from further sexist remarks
Tim is no longer employeed at Stack Overflow btw
 
Is that the Mos-Eisley incident I've read about in SciFi meta?
 
And no one else seems to care about issues like this
 
@Passerby That truly sucks! Heard he was the master at this kind of garbage.
 
You say incident like there was only one. There have been multiple issues with Mos over the last few years. The latest got it banned by a CM, bit was not the first.
Him and his sockpuppet friend. Yet I was treated like garbage for pointing it out.
And yet now on movies, I provide multiple evidence of serial down vote and un-upvote abuse and they ignore it and look for the flimsy IST reasons to ban me.
Instead of stopping the abuse.
 
5:37 AM
Well, my use of these sites is rather different than most. I'm not here for answers to questions, and I don't give a dime about rep or other "points". I just like to share what I know, or think, that might help someone else somewhere.
I have been mildly controversial a few times, but I won't argue a point. I just say my piece and let others rant about it.
I'm not likely to react the way many others would, and can't really think of anything you haven't already done.
Seems like you've done everything you're supposed to do about it, and it just continues.
 
Clicks, people covering for others. Don't be surprised if some movie mod bans me fromchatting soon.
 
Go to your profile page and mark the movie account as hidden. That will "disconnect" it from the rest as far as people can see. Might make it a little bit harder to connect this account with that one.
And, Don't post that screen shot you mention in the question.
 
Multiple days days of down votes and un-upvotes. Why shouldn't i post evidence
If the un-upvote was part of the automatic anti abuse script we wouldn't have this issue
 
Because what it shows will help them associate this account with that account, and they can start trolling here too.
 
6:00 AM
They l
Already have
 
6:22 AM
I see that some of the stuff is gone. That is for the best I think. Probably even more could be expunged.
 
well there's issues about what is ontopic for chat - so some mods wouldn't delete it.
 
After seeing all those flags in chat and this discussion, lets better to clear this up
 
@GypsySpellweaver Please come in here to chat :)
 
@Passerby CM did investigated your voting claims and you end up loosing more upvoet then downvote and you got banned for using bounty for flag, posting Spam on main site and calling people bastard and fascists
Before mud slinging on other site on random place, tell them full story
 
:38940099 I suspended you - accidentally - sorry about that. I'm new to modding
 
6:28 AM
I've tried to be active on both ends yet avoid cross-over conversations.
I realized the mistake when I posted the comment on the question. :/
 
Wlah
 
BTW you can remove your comment there as well.
 
@AJ I need to be mindful that I'm not a sheriff and I have to abide by the site's rules. Which I'm still slipping and sliding a bit - but will get there :)
 
7 messages moved to Trashcan
 
@GypsySpellweaver ah I didn't realise you were addressing me.
 
6:33 AM
I'm still newish to SE, and not sure when to @ping and when to just chat
@YvetteColomb Since it served its purpose, you could remove the comment on your question. It looks strange as an orphan. interpersonal.stackexchange.com/questions/633/…
 
@GypsySpellweaver if it's about chat - ping from chat or post on meta, not the main site and feel free to ask as many questions as you need :)
 
Hello @curiousdannii
 
@Passerby You sure? His profile still says he is
 
@GypsySpellweaver done :)
 
@YvetteColomb I learn tricks fast, etiquette, not so much.
 
6:40 AM
@curiousdannii Tim's still sticking around
 
@Zizouz212 And still ignoring our Open Source name meta question :(
 
Yeah... :/
I've kind of given up on that.
 
@Zizouz212 I feel like pinging the staff every six months would be fair
Could hardly call that nagging
 
@Passerby can I get you to have a look at this. I'd like to discuss a few things with you
 
@YvetteColomb 20 years! Wow! I've never seen more than 11 or so
 
6:44 AM
@YvetteColomb If you do have that discussion, maybe a new room would be in order?
 
@curiousdannii well it makes me helpful to people who are battling suspensions - I understand :)
@GypsySpellweaver of course - except with regard to this interpersonal.stackexchange.com/questions/752/…
 
And I was hoping you would surface, but didn't want to ping you for it.
@YvetteColomb True that :/
 
@GypsySpellweaver who?
 
@YvetteColomb You, for the very reason you just gave.
 
@curiousdannii Yeah. In the coming weeks, I'm going to see if I can shoot 'em an email, and at least ask them to put some kind of response, even if it isn't what we may have wanted originally.
 
6:46 AM
@GypsySpellweaver sure and feel free to ping me any time you need help (in chat is better than on the main site)
 
Or me!
 
A J
It appears that my answer to that teacher question did well.
 
I don't like the possibility of disturbing others. If I see them in chat within past little while I'll ping, but otherwise I refrain.
I know some people leave the room(s) open 24/7, but may be AFK
 
@AJ Yep :)
 
never worry about that - if I'm around I'll pop in. If I'm busy I'll tell you and if I'm not around - well I wont' pop in :)
 
6:48 AM
@YvetteColomb I don't think we can really deal with that question properly. How to deal with low level stalking would be on-topic I think, but if it's only anonymous votes that user doesn't even have any evidence they're being targetted.
 
@GypsySpellweaver Pinging is also a nice subtle way to get someones attention. If they aren't there, they'll get a little notification asking them to come (when they are available).
 
A J
@GypsySpellweaver I have a list of favorite rooms I never left.
 
@curiousdannii Agreed. It's a... well... "question" but waaaaaaaay too toxic for my liking
 
More or less my view as well. I only have the homefront to maintain, so am often near computer
 
A J
When I click on Rejoin Favorite Rooms buttons, it tells me that I never left even when I turned off my laptop.
 
6:50 AM
@AJ Do you have a mobile device logged into any SE page?
 
A J
Yes I do
 
Then you didn't leave. :)
 
@GypsySpellweaver Nope, they are separate infrastructures.
 
It's always worked for me. even when my PC died for a while. All rooms stayed active.
 
Really? I tend to keep windows open (albeit on the side), and if I have no chat windows open, it takes me out of the rooms
 
6:52 AM
And that's on a measly iPod Gen 4
 
\o/ They have a Social Justice minor...
 
A J
I do chat mostly from phone.
 
@curiousdannii I have asked a meta question interpersonal.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/1243/… :) Please answer :)
 
If I have too, I will chat mobile, but with my fat fingers and bouncing buses (and miserable auto-correct) the results are usually less than desirable
 
@GypsySpellweaver Oh I can't do SE on mobile phones
Never mind the fact I'm going blind with age hahaha
 
6:57 AM
I will read the sites, and think about answers. But typing just don't work too well for me on mobile
@YvetteColomb I use glasses for that issue.
 
@GypsySpellweaver I use large screen font :)
 
A J
Suggest me good font type for quote in that community ad image
 
verdana?
 
A J
let's check'
 
@AJ Should be sans-serif of some type at least. Easier to read on-screen than serif is.
 
A J
7:08 AM
Author name is coming in third line whatever font I choose.
 
Well... It's 3:10 am and I'm still not tired.
What has happened to me
 
I'm the same
I have to go and feed my horses bbl \o
 
I'm going to pull some music up
 
@curiousdannii it's easy enough to prove with screenshots and timestamps
@YvetteColomb you should look into the mod help documents because of you really didn't mean it you can remove the suspension with single click.
@YvetteColomb private how.
 
@Passerby For what it's worth, some of the suspensions were reversed.
 
7:15 AM
@Zizouz212 no evidence of that being true.
 
For what it's worth, I reversed one of them. If you want to formalize the issue, take it to meta. This isn't necessarily something to be chatting about. It's not really appropriate.
2
 
@curiousdannii I confused him with Jeff. But last I talked to tim about sexism it was ignored. Then Richard was forced out of his moderation role and then a year later shot shut down mos eisly due to issues that closely resembled what I brought up. I will send you all information I have about it
 
A J
I don't have photoshop. All I have picassa and MS Paint.
 
It is a TTF font that's free to download, can be installed on Windows, and then Paint, or any other MS program will have it available. And it is free for commercial use, so it's safe to use for our site ad.
@AJ BTW, darn good work for only paint and picassa. I can't do that good and I have GIMP :(
Of course, my artistic skills are as abundant as the dodo bird.
 
8:04 AM
@AJ ^^
 
A J
Oh that looks good but I am not on laptop and will not be for a few days.
 
It'll stay in the transcript and you can find it anytime. It's on imgur.
Well, did you make the change to the person in the middle that was skinny?
 
Well, I'm going to head to sleep.
 
@Zizouz212 Night
 
Please make sure nothing happens in the mean time :)
 
8:13 AM
I'm not much longer for here either.
 
A J
@GypsySpellweaver Oh that is a girl in middle and it is looking skinny because I had to compress the width.
 
Have you made any cȟanges to the master yet?
 
A J
@GypsySpellweaver yeah I updated it.
 
Then I can't just paste that over what's in the meta.?
 
See eds sci-fi profile and valorums stackapps.com/users/45853/valorum
 
A J
8:22 AM
@GypsySpellweaver sure but keep the quote as is in updated post.
 
@Passerby yes I do, another mod unsuspended you :)
@Passerby it's more about what we can do to cope with being suspended, how to make it better
 
@AJ The meta post has been updated since I say it last. the quote was in a script on two lines, now on three lines.
What needs to be changed?
 
@YvetteColomb I'll take your word considering it took the whole 3o minutes the suspension stated to talk again.
 
9:00 AM
Not sure what was intended, so I tried this:
Time for me to get some shut-eye. I shall return.
 
A J
@GypsySpellweaver good
 
At half-size the quote still seems a bit fuzzy to my eyes, which are not the best.
Maybe to younger eyes it's good.
 
9:34 AM
@Passerby well I don't know why it didn't finish sooner
@GypsySpellweaver wow that's good
 
9:46 AM
ok @Zizouz212 @GypsySpellweaver @AJ @curiousdannii we don't have a mod to deal with comments, but any comments that are rude or abusive will be automatically deleted with enough flags from the community
@Edlothiad would you mind deleting your comments from under that question interpersonal.stackexchange.com/questions/752/… we don't have mods on the site yet - so we need shog and it would be helpful to keep it clean there and delete most of the comments. You don't have to defend yourself. The question is controversial.
 
Yep, not a problem :)
All of them?
@YvetteColomb and everyone else who frequents this stack, my apologies for causing any trouble. I will return to my humble abode and continuing answering Tolkien questions :)
 
@Edlothiad I think so. It takes the wind out of the sails of the accusations. I've mod flagged for a comment thread clean up - but Robert is away, so we only have Shog
@Edlothiad You are most welcome here. So is Passerby. We just need to maintain some level of professionalism on the site :)
 
I have an account. But don't participate much outside my little Tolkien-sphere :P
 
10:04 AM
:)
 
10:24 AM
I don't want to cause anymore drama, but make it clear to @Passerby, that I am not Valorum. If anyone had the time to get 13000 rep on a sock-puppet, it hardly becomes a sock-puppet anymore. That "similarity" in our user-profile is because we both use the same slack-chat and that is our custom message. :)
 
 
2 hours later…
12:24 PM
@GypsySpellweaver Yeah still too small IMO
 
12:40 PM
Am I in the correct room?
This room has too much people in it to be The Awkward Silence.
 
in English Language & Usage, 2 hours ago, by Ghalib
I think avatars are sticking in chat today. There aren't as many people as we see here.
 
NVZ
1:35 PM
@HenryWHHackv2.0 Shh!
 
NVZ
I'm so glad to have found out about this new community.
I've invited my friends over from ELU. :)
 
Now I know.
 
@YvetteColomb Two comments:
1) I asked a question about SE (and kinda muffed it) earlier on in the private beta, so we have another data point.
2) There's another meta issue at work there, which is how we deal with phrasing in questions of conflict resolution.
One of the issues - if not the main issue - with that question is that it takes a set of events and assumes malevolent intent.
For instance, take two phrasings of pretty much the same (very hypothetical) question:
> I work at a supermarket as a cashier. The cashiers don't have assigned registers, and I prefer the one by the bakery. However, over the past week, my moronic coworker Mike has been stealing it before me! It's really stupid; he doesn't care which register he uses. I want to talk to management but I know they'll side with Mike; they always do. How can I tell this idiot that I want my register back?
Compare that to
> I work at a supermarket as a cashier. The cashiers don't have assigned registers, and I prefer the one by the bakery. However, over the past week, my coworker, Mike has taken that register before I get there. It's a bit annoying, and I'd like to find a solution where we're both happy. I'm not fully confident in management's ability to find an impartial solution. How can I get Mike to agree to some sort of fair agreement - hopefully, one where I use the register?
The second one's constructive and doesn't assume that Mike's the bad guy here. It looks at it objectively ("Just the facts, ma'am", as Catija would say). I've been looking at other related sites to see if they have a similar policy in place - where questions about conflicts must phrase the details neutrally.
I'm not saying we should all assume that the other person involved isn't being evil. But the OP shouldn't make the opposite assumption.
 
1:59 PM
@HDE226868 who is Mike?
 
@YvetteColomb Coworker from the examples above.
 
oh sorry
 
No problem. I have no idea where I got that name.
 
NVZ
2:17 PM
Mike and Ike, probably.
 
@HDE226868 sorry I'm distracted, I'm working
 
I see we've had an interesting night in here.
 
@YvetteColomb It's not at all urgent; I'm semi-busy, too.
 
@Catija lol not too bad
 
NVZ
@Catija It's odd that I remember your name well. Did we chat before? Like a year ago? Maybe on ELL chat.
 
2:24 PM
@NVZ I have spent a lot of time in the ELL chat room.
 
NVZ
@Catija Yeah, that must be it.
I found it.
It was the election time then
It was funny. I was the zero score candidate.
 
Because you tried to run in an election on ELL based almost entirely on your account on ELU.
 
NVZ
@Catija Yeah. Fun times. :)
I like to participate. No matter how odd that would appear.
 
I think it's great that you want to be involved... before I became a mod, I really wanted to be one and ran in several races but I wouldn't ever stand up in an election where I don't have a significant amount of time and effort spent on the site... I guess it's just a different way of thinking about things.
 
NVZ
Yeah, I know.
It's also that.. come election, people speak their mind, and I like hearing feedback.
Fun fact. I've nominated myself here as well.
 
2:30 PM
I'm aware.
 
NVZ
Chances are slimmer than the slimmest.
But it's what I do.
It's also that I want to make the actual winners feel that their win was more worth it. Like, what's a win if you don't have competition!
 
how's bub @Catija?
 
It depends on the person. I think that the CMs sometimes have mental lists of people they think would make good mods and they may give them the chance if they're active on a new site. They're always looking to broaden the mod pool.
@YvetteColomb I'm at a meeting from 8 - 2 and I miss him. He's home with his dad.
 
NVZ
Sure. If in case somehow miraculously I'm picked, I've got all the right skills to be a good one.
 
Fortunately, the meeting seems to be a little bit of cat herding, so I've got some down time to poke around in here.
 
NVZ
2:34 PM
I try, try, try, try, try. But I just can't keep up with chatrooms.
That's one reason I went awol (or something) from ELL chat after that brief one.
 
@Catija that's hard
 
3:00 PM
@John So...this is the room that you have been hanging out in!! How are you? I just popped in to say hi :)
Oh! @Catija and@AJ are here, too! Woot!
 
3:15 PM
@HenryWHHackv2.0 This room has several people in it who aren't talking. I would say that's the definition of awkward silence ;)
 
What was #2?
 
Hmmmmm...this site is interesting.
 
Ah.
 
3:37 PM
Is there certain sources that this site will or will not acknowledge as credible? I'm trying to find a meta post about it, but I am admittedly really bad at looking through meta posts ;)
 
I don't think we even have guidance about whether sources are required at all... yet.
 
Rokay :)
 
I don't think that qualified sources is a good idea for this instance.
 
Yes.
That's sort of opinion-based. We could make a meta question that explains what to look for in a source, but not a list of specific "cleared" sources.
 
Emily Post has limited value in India
 
3:43 PM
I'm pretty sure Dan Savage probably isn't the best source for India, either.
 
I wasn't really talking about a certain instance. Just in general.
 
A J
Well, we have better sources than them.
 
There's no better source than Dan Savage... for certain topics.
 
A J
Never heard of him.
 
Like sources from PhDs or psychologists over a random blog or something. I guess that I'm just trying to understand how this site works :)
 
A J
3:46 PM
We have Chanakya. :P
 
@steelershark Most of the sources people are using are personal experience.
 
I have zero clue what you guys are talking about...like usual. Hehehe!
 
A J
:D
 
@Catija Oh, okay. Well...that's cool, then. I was just curious in case I wanted to post an answer. You know, because I am so knowledgeable with my life experiences :P
 
Life experience is good but supporting your experience with a source is even better.
 
3:51 PM
Dangit! I just wanted to say "because I said so" :P
 
A J
hahahaha
 
Hehehe!
 
I do believe that life experience is going to be a major source for answers here, and only some of that will be supported by published material.
Two reasons:
1) Academic sources are poorly, at best, applicable to real life. (Yes, I have read many and stand by that statement.)
2) Most people don't even know many of the places to look for sources, let alone take the time to read them.
 
So, I can just answer a question with my own life experiences and do jazz hands while I exit the stage? Awesome! :P
 
@steelershark Sure, but if you expect the OP to trust it, then you're going to need some way to make it sound like a good solution. Compare their problem to yours, and say why you think your solution will work for their problem. Maybe even what you expect to happen if they do take your advice.
 
4:06 PM
@GypsySpellweaver I'm just being silly. Sorry. @AJ and @Catija are the only ones in this room who are used to my silly nonsense ;)
 
I've sorta picked up on that, but others may read the room and helping them too is a good idea. :)
 
Don't worry. I appreciate your response :)
 
A few others, HDE for one, I think, have been trying to nail down a reasonable "back it up" that fits for the subject matter of this site.
Don't think they've reached an end to that journey, but they are on that road at least.
 
4:22 PM
Everyone here is under arrest.
 
@GypsySpellweaver Oh, sure. There are a lot of able minded users who are regulars here, so that's great! I know that if you guys have Catija as an active community member, you're definitely in good hands!
 
You have the right to remind silent. :D
 
Catija is super smart and is very knowledgeable about SE as a whole. Plus...she has the cutest baby on the planet ;)
 
She's a mod.
 
Who's a mod?
 
4:25 PM
Catija
 
Catija is a she :)
 
?
Well I'm sure he she won't mind.
 
Yes, she's a mod :)
 
What a waste of mod powers to edit that message.
 
Oh...I just assumed that you edited it.
 
4:28 PM
no
I was brainwash by the baby in her profile picture.
 
Hehehe!
 
I was just helping you out. :)
 
He's the mascot of our chat on Movies.SE ;)
 
nice
@Catija It's ok. :)
 
Huh? Shog edited that message?
 
4:32 PM
@HenryWHHackv2.0 .... Huh?
 
I modified the code with inspect elements.
 
ok.
 
<confused shark>
:P
 
A J
@HenryWHHackv2.0 Ohh you programmer guy
 
4:34 PM
@AJ No really.
 
A J
hmm
 
I am going to make AJ a mod please hold.
 
runs
 
5:02 PM
So guys what happened here when I was away from my keyboard?
 
A J
@steelershark ran away.
 
I finally got the job. :)
 
A J
Congratas
 
Ok now I am a SE CM I can make you a mod.
Wait
I am not trusted yet.
 
A J
LOL
 
5:05 PM
Ok 2 years later.
I just quit my job a minute ago.
 
@HenryWHHackv2.0 In here? Absolutely nothing :)
 
5:58 PM
Very interesting...
 
6:58 PM
Hey folks!
 
A J
hello
 
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