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Sid
5:00 PM
How many do we have for now?
 
Still looking for a fourth?
 
Seems at least 4-5
 
It looks like we only have 3 atm.
 
scon/deus are around
 
Sid
Ping everyone. Let's see who comes.
 
5:07 PM
Are any of the newcomers interested in a game?
 
maybe
 
why pings?
 
Sid
I just wanted to see how many are ready for a game now.
 
@Deusovi come baaack
 
hello!
 
5:09 PM
I may be watching
 
Sid
So, do we have 5 or 6 at least?
 
Should we set up teams then? People can join/leave at any time for the most part
 
Spymasters?
 
Sid
I want to be Spymaster if no one objects.
 
I'll go
I quite liked being spymaster even though I lost
 
5:11 PM
Alright then, who's blue, who's red
of you two
 
I'll take blue
 
Sid
Red for me.
 
an' it harm none, do what ye will
 
Who are the players, Deus, Scon, me? anyone else?
 
(I'll go wherever)
 
5:12 PM
hi
 
Perfecto
Rubio wanna join up again? :P
 
How do we seed? just Random.org?
 
Sure, and then give the seed to Sid
 
@Sid 475752
 
we should assign teams at random ;)
 
5:14 PM
It seems to just be us, deus and scon
 
blocked for me...
 
I'll play but I have to read the rules first
 
5:16 PM
I think the teams we had are fine
 
we had teams?
 
er, the suggestion
3 mins ago, by n_palum
Rubio wanna join up again? :P
how about this: rubio, n_p, and MF on one team, Scon, BC, and me on the other
plus the spymasters, Sid and WW
 
That's what came up as Random :P
 
so, pretty much the same thing I suggested but with MF and BC switched
fine by me
 
Sounds good to me.
 
5:18 PM
Sure, sounds good
 
Since Rubio wanted random
 
BLUE: Wheat Wizard, Deusovi, Sconibulus, Mistah_Figgins
 
It was just an idea. Seems like it worked ok anyway :)
 
I wonder if I could make a bot
 
RED: Sid, n_palum, Business Cat, Rubio
 
5:19 PM
@Sconibulus Both incesterror and I discussed that, weren't sure how chat works with it
 
Sid
So... We first need to provide a picture of the words, I guess?
 
Red is up first
 
Yeah, we need the picture
 
I was just thinking to do pairings and keep score
 
hm?
 
5:22 PM
for the theoretical future bot
 
List teams, keep score (theoretically) and maybe track guesses
 
Ok sids is much nicer
 
alright Sid, you're up first
 
lol.
 
Sid
Lol.'
 
5:23 PM
problem solved
 
Sid
Okay, Red guys brace up..
 
Just heads up, I'm mostly just observing until I actually understand what's going on
 
3 hours ago, by Rubio
(sometime later this week) - "imgur is full of grids of words, we're shutting down the service until we find out what is going on"
 
Sid
RED: PLANTS (3)
 
Why does Deusovi's image vibrate? it makes it hard to read.
 
5:25 PM
It shouldn't...
 
um ... vibrate ?
 
Oh thats probably my problem
 
forest, orange, maple, cotton are all arguably plants related
i'm thinking: cotton, maple, forest ?
 
the HORN of AFRICA is where all plants came from
An AZTEC PRINCESS sacrificed plants by HAND with a MARBLE knife
 
Hmmm.. I like Cotton
 
5:27 PM
how does one team indicate that they have picked a word for sure
 
bold
 
Maple and forest work too..
 
vs just discussion?
ok
 
we say it in bold-caps
 
I'm debating if Orange as in the tree should be considered
We did designate the person to give our final guesses
 
5:28 PM
it probably should be, but I could see dismissing it as fruit.
 
Should*
 
@BusinessCat are you still just watching or do you want to weigh in before we go?
 
Well I don't really have any input besides what's been said
This time
I agree
 
ok we'll go then
COTTON
 
Cotton is neutral
 
5:30 PM
gah.
 
Blue: ATE (3)
 
That happened last game too... Should've done a different one first
 
I see chocolate
paste?
 
Hm... there must be some reason for "ate" instead of "eat" or "food"
 
5:31 PM
well. I assumed after it happened last game the relevance of COTTON to PLANTS would be apparent. :)
 
ooh
stATE maybe?
 
poison?
 
I think we should go for chocolate first
 
ATE implies food, which I see Chocolate, Paste, Orange, Maple (Syrup), maybe Poison but probably not
 
@Sconibulus, you still here?
 
5:31 PM
yea
 
...Paste is food?
 
yeah, sorry, was writing first thoughts only looking at the grid
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Pate translates pretty literally to paste
 
Any objections to CHOCOLATE?
 
5:32 PM
nope
 
I'd do Chocolate and Orange first
so no
 
after that, STATE?
 
eh, not so keen on state
 
CHOCOLATE, then ORANGE
(ignore ORANGE if CHOCOLATE is wrong)
 
Chocolate is Blue
 
5:33 PM
yea
 
Sid
Orange is red.
 
Orange is red
 
...
@MistahFiggins well, there must be some reason for ATE instead of EAT
 
...aww
 
5:33 PM
Ah so I was right in Orange being a fruit tree
 
apparently so.
 
So we still have a couple other plant guesses, so keep that in mind
 
aye
 
idk, the way I've always played is that it's generally discouraged to give clues relating to the spelling/position instead of meaning
 
5:34 PM
yeah, but in the rules, I mentioned position
but didn't say anything about spelling
 
ok
fair 'nuff
house rules and all, I'm down
 
Yeah my image vibrates too. Its most certainly my problem
 
@Sid you're up
 
Aren't all of these rules house rules?
 
what do you mean?
 
5:36 PM
oh
 
I'm not even in a house right now
 
there's also a picture version
 
It would be a real game even if we'd made it up :)
 
yeah, but I mean it exists outside of our circle
 
Sid
RED: Body part (2)
 
5:37 PM
#?
 
that's... not a valid clue
 
One word @Sid
 
Well we should probably play it.
 
probably better to allow that instead of getting a new clue
 
doing another clue just gives more information
 
5:38 PM
the typical rule for penalties is that the other team gets a free word of the spymaster's choice
 
IIRC
 
ooh. neat.
 
Well, for the future keep it in mind. I imagine we don't wanna enforce penalties considering the number of new players
 
So I reveal a word?
 
5:38 PM
yeah, let's let it pass for now
 
ok np
 
but for future reference, unless it's something where the words are very "tightly bound" (like "ice cream" or "New York"), it should be a one-word clue
 
welp. for this clue, hand, spine, and horn all work. but I assume the first two are the intended ones.
 
Sid
Only body is also okay, of anyone minds.
 
it's interesting playing on the computer, because you can't easily give pun clues
 
5:40 PM
I assume it is Hand and Spine. Since we have a 3rd guess with that 2, we should probably toss Forest in. Or maple.
 
Possibly lap as well but that's a bit more of a stretch
 
i.e. homonyms
 
yah.
 
@MistahFiggins yeah, I used to do those too - according to the rules, you're allowed to ask for spelling, but the spymaster is allowed to refuse
 
gonna do hand, spine, forest
 
5:40 PM
Hand and Spine seem like the most likely to me
 
any objections?
 
So those two for sure, Forest or Maple as a bonus?
Sure, those 3.
 
I'm often looking for wordplay in these clues
 
HAND
 
hand is blue
 
Sid
5:41 PM
Blue.
 
yay!
 
um.
 
WHAT
 
what the hell?
 
5:41 PM
Wow
 
Sid. ;_;
 
Sid
I am sorry.
 
SHAME
 
hey, it happens
 
(nah, it's fine, I've done even dumber things)
 
5:41 PM
This game is so odd right now
 
at least it wasn't the assasin
happened to me once :/
 
We're gunna need like an infinite clue to get the rest of them. (remember spine/forest/maybe maple/maybe lap)
 
@ffao I was worried it was me :-D
 
yah, i'm remembering :)
 
5:43 PM
My clue go ruined, I have to think of a new one
 
Whatever the next clue is, we also want to guess Forest, Spine, Maple, Lap IMO.
 
you think lap over horn?
 
Blue: MAP (2)
 
@Deusovi The number you give should be how many words you think it fits, or how many it could? (dc suggested it had to be any possibilities which I don't get how you determine)
 
lap isn't really a body part (it famously disappears when you stand up)
 
5:44 PM
can we have a grid update?
@n_palum How many words you intend it to fit.
 
@Rubio Just because Sid knows his medical stuff, I imagine his thought is humans ergo not horns
 
Is audience allowed to join in on the discussions?
 
You can go ahead and join a team
 
my first thoughts are Africa and Key
 
5:46 PM
@Scon, @MistahFiggins: I'm thinking STATE and KEY
 
blue, i might have to leave
 
...crap
 
state for sure
 
snarky kibbitzing is allowed, but yeah - if you want to actually contribute you should join a team
 
I think "Africa" and "State"
 
5:46 PM
If MF leaves, Jan should join Blue
 
ATACO WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!
 
I'll wait for assignment as a replacement then.
 
It's fine for the teams to be slightly unbalanced
 
@JanDvorak Go ahead and join blue anyway, no worries
 
so Africa or State first?
 
5:47 PM
Roger, thanks
 
I think Africa
 
key os good too
 
I'll go along with that
 
actually, state
 
i agree for Africa
 
5:48 PM
because we already thought of state
 
@scon?
 
BLUE: Wheat Wizard, Deusovi, Sconibulus, Mistah_Figgins, Jan Dvorak
 
I see forests and churches on maps all the time
 
oh, right, with the State Ate thing...
 
not forrest
 
5:48 PM
italics = spymaster?
 
Hope That Helps™ :)
 
yup
 
you dirty red teamer
 
yeah, if that wasn't right, we probably wouldn't get another clue that could fit it
 
so, STATE KEY AFRICA or STATE AFRICA KEY?
 
5:49 PM
@Rubio Not a Hope That Helps word
 
at least not immediately
 
@Deusovi the latter
i.e. AFRICA before key
 
hm. (jots down notes for next puzzle title)
 
I'd thought so, but both of us came up with key as well
 
I think only one of State or Africa are right though...
 
5:49 PM
oh well
 
so let's put Key in the middle?
 
STATE KEY AFRICA
 
State is blue
key is neutral
 
woot (ish)
 
@Rubio Debating making one of those :P they're tricky
 
5:50 PM
Alright
 
Sid
Can we reuse a clue again?
 
What was the reasoning behind key? just curious
 
@Sid Yeah
the key tells you what symbols mean
 
@n_palum I know where you can find a good template. :)
 
@Sid We remember your other clues and can guess based off them, so not necessary to do so
 
5:51 PM
Cartography (from Greek χάρτης khartēs, "papyrus, sheet of paper, map"; and γράφειν graphein, "write") is the study and practice of making maps. Combining science, aesthetics, and technique, cartography builds on the premise that reality can be modeled in ways that communicate spatial information effectively. The fundamental problems of traditional cartography are to: Set the map's agenda and select traits of the object to be mapped. This is the concern of map editing. Traits may be physical, such as roads or land masses, or may be abstract, such as toponyms or political boundaries. Represent the...
 
@Rubio :O Awaits referral
 
@Deusovi Thats a legend?
 
"key" means the same thing in that sense
 
^^
 
5:51 PM
Oh didn't know that
welp
 
ah well
probably AFRICA then
 
we still have two ATEs
 
yes
one might have been state
 
I'd wager more US school kids know it as a KEY than as a LEGEND (but I wouldn't put much money on it)
 
I'd say legend is more clear because it has fewer other meanings
 
5:53 PM
I know both terms but key is more ambiguous
 
@n_palum (just grab my latest Word™ puzzle and click Edit - it's all a template)
 
I think I learned key first tho
 
legend has so many meanings...
 
OpenOffice calls it a legend
 
5:54 PM
@Rubio Oh yeah, can do that
 
so @sid you know you can use a count of "unlimited" too right?
 
OpenOffice has a cartography suite?
 
or zero
 
did we ever decide what 0 means?
 
OpenOffice has graphs
 
5:56 PM
you can guess as many as you want
 
zero is like unlimited, but it means "none of our words fit this clue"
and you can still guess as many as you want
 
ah. gotcha
 
but the word applies to none of the words you need to guess
 
What's the point of guessing if you know you can't find a spy?
 
Sid
Red: Kingdom (3)
 
5:56 PM
what do you mean?
 
@JanDvorak You use information from your previous clues. Nobody would give a 0 on the first clue
 
understood
 
0 and unlimited are usually last ditch efforts in my experience
 
oy.
 
Hm. I'd add Princess and Aztec to it
 
5:57 PM
but I don't see a 3rd
 
And then use the other two guesses to get some of those other ones.
 
yeah let's do that
 
Princess, Aztec, Forest, Maple?
Or Princess, Aztec, Spine, Forest
 
princess seems the most obvious to start, then aztec, then spine, then forest
 
Cat? Any objection?
 
5:58 PM
0 is also good for letting your team know that the thing that they were going to pick as something they missed should probably not be picked
@n_palum cat?
there isn't a word cat
 
@MistahFiggins at the cost of one turn
 
@BusinessCat
 
Business Cat
 
Sorry. Princess seems like the most obvious, yeah
 
facepalm
 
5:59 PM
PRINCESS
 
PRINCESS AZTEC SPINE FOREST
Left to right
 
@JanDvorak better than losing...
 
or ok that works too :)
 
All red
 

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