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PRIVACY
01:30
I think it is important; but I think ultimately it shouldn't be important.
I love cats.
01:40
I created a whole bunch of new rooms today.
It was awesome.

 The Asylum

Mathematical and philosophical logic discussion area
Names obviously a bit on the silly side, and of course up for discussion :)
I thought it might be nice to have rooms around the different disciplines
@stoicfury they are pretty great.
Yeah I saw that
Probably very useful for archival purposes
I just wish there was an easier way to ping people's attention to chat
Maybe we should organize structured discussions via meta
Yeah, I'd love to see that.
That could lead nicely into blog posts reporting on the discussion. Research-expository notes from our explorations :)
I'll set something up tonight or tomorrow in meta to discuss this idea and gather topics
It would be nice if it could dove-tail with the weekly contests -- there's kind of been a dive in participation.
I could be facilitating them a bit more consistently, but...
yeah not a bad idea
01:56
cats! :)
02:17
stoicfury++
("The Reality Of Reality May Not Be Reality", Adam Frank, from NPR's Cosmos and Culture weblog)
This Connection is Untrusted
interesting
 
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03:54
lol
 
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05:17
YAAY! CATS! <- In real life, I sound like this.
05:34
@stoicfury What made you mention privacy?
 
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19:32
Hi
can anyone help me with this: philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/4248/… ?
thank you very much!
 
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20:43
@QuietThud - I don't recall my exact train of thought but I think I might have noticed the Google Free Internet thingy on Reddit then I was thinking about that. Why would governments want to control the internet? In truth though governments in and of themselves don't care, i.e. the politicians, etc. It's companies who stand to make money from controlling the internet who care, and those companies lobby governments to make legislation that will favor them.
But then that got me thinking into the role of the government, what an ideal government would look like, its size and scope of power, etc.
Which naturally leads to privacy; an increase in safety is gained through the relaxing of privacy; how far is a government allowed to read ones emails and listen to phone calls in the name of National Security?
After that I just sat thinking about privacy, what is privacy, what does it mean to have a "right to privacy"? How can I justify that "right". Is it something we just say, a baseless claim, something we just want, or is there some sort of real justification for having privacy. I have my whole life very strongly valued privacy; I don't think anyone has the right to certain information about me or the stuff I do at any time without my consent. At the same time, I am a wholly open person.
If you ask me something, even a total stranger, I would tell you everything. As a determinist I don't "blame" people for their actions so there's no shame in anything we have done, ever. So I am an open book. In principle, I think this is how everyone should be; I mean, why hide things? Do people want privacy because they are embarrassed about things? The solution isn't keeping things secret, it's to not be embarrassed about things that one shouldn't be embarrassed about.
So, while I would never dictate that people should never have any privacy, say, if I were the ruler of a country; I would posit however that in my opinion a more ideal society would be beyond the need of privacy. Privacy, to them, would be an antiquated notion for those of "lesser minds". :P
What do you think?
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^ super "get lots of people's attention" macro
21:52
I feel like you weren't necessarily going here, but really getting rid of privacy -- this would almost seem to require abolishing private property.
Anyway, I'm definitely with you insofar as transparency seems to me a nobler principle than privacy/secrecy.

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