@stoicfury I have been wondering for a while, is there a political model that appeals to reason and not to popularity? In the law system, you have judges that reason evidence and give a verdict; though it is still somewhat biased, I feel it could improved a modern, truly free, society.
Maybe also Epistemocracy which is ruled by people with epistemic humility.(Which I still do not fully understand) Apparently, it is dealt with on utopian fantasies.
But your question is pretty interesting I think; in Plato his Republic clearly serves as an example of a sort of pure meritocracy where reason would at least be taken into account
Right; the problem with judgment/kritarchy might also be investigated with Kant -- the critical philosophy "par excellence" as it were
The cave metaphor belongs with this in an interesting way that I am afraid I do not have the time to unpack here (or concentration, I am exhausted -- have been travelling for seven hours or so)
Perhaps suffice to say that the question of utopia may conceal a deeper and "tragicomic" problem of illumination -- Nietzsche/Spinoza, Levinas and Deleuze should also be considered here
I was trying to hold general assemblies here for awhile :) we didn't have enough participation to make it worth it. If chat volume picks up I might try to kick it off again!
There were a few posts on meta. There was only one that was run with any semblance of formal participatory consensus stuff. If you are interested I would be happy to put together some notes and links to the relevant chat logs on meta here soon.
@fabianhjr Also I just recalled that the Alan Bloom translation of the Republic comes with a massive (~200 page) analytical essay at the end by Alan Bloom himself (a student of Leo Strauss, I think), and that should help you with the reading a lot.
I have returned to the digital information superhighway
@fabianhjr - re: political model that appeals to reason
Nothing rings a bell, but I suppose I'm somewhat confused because I'm pretty sure all political models are they way they are because they are reasoned to be the best way to govern; e.g. democracy is not just supposed to be a popularity contest, but the underlying argument is that the most reasonable system is one that allows a (fair) popular vote
I hold the believe that Homer Simpson is smarter than this guy.
We basically paid 75 Million MXN for the stand he is going to use.(The Gov payed for it)
Plus his visit arrangements.
@user49523 I used to run BOINC, I became 10th place in Mexico once upon a time. I currently use most of my CPU time doing my own computations, but thanks.
He was defended with, and I quote, "that being a good reader is not necessary to be a good president and emphasized on his political intuition and his discipline.".
he also doesn't know the minimum wage in Mexico
And when asked for the price of the canasta basica(most common, cheap food) he answerd Yo no soy la señora de la casa.
(I am not the lady of the house)
@stoicfury that bad?
I am aware of Rick Santorum and Rick Perry(The christian dude)
Well, the issue is that Peña Nieto is constantly refered to as the next president.
Even on a USA cable leaked by Wikileaks
And most people believe that he will indeed be president. He is leading the election currently
A lot of people defend him and claim he is only the face of el gabinete(The board) of the political party.
Hey, I am tasting several different coffees. So far I have tasted American, Esspresso, Ristretto, Capuccino, Machiato, and Iced Coffee. Any suggestions on what I should try next?
Now, what if, as police officers, politicians were constantly given physicals, and other examinations? For instance they would most certainly need to be proefficient in logic, épistemology, sociology and economics.
Damn I need to write all this down. Maybe I will at least start writing on my blog.