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ssb
ssb
1:57 AM
new word of the day: 日向ぼっこ
 
 
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Kimball
Kimball
3:49 AM
I have a resource question, which I guess is not appropriate for the main site or even meta. I've never used chat, but maybe this is appropriate here? I'd like to learn a bit more about the evolution of Japanese, preferably including things about various dialects and the development of 標準語. If possible I'd like a simple introductory book in Japanese, say aimed at 6-8th grade students (roughly my Japanese reading level). Any suggestions?
 
ssb
ssb
4:21 AM
@Kimball my knowledge of the literature is not very deep, but maybe this covers some of what you're looking for?
 
Kimball
Kimball
4:47 AM
@ssb Thanks, the table of contents look interesting. Ideally I'd like something written in non-technical Japanese because I often find it easier to understand Japanese descriptions of Japanese more comprehensible than English descriptions. (Plus it's better practice for me.) But if I can't find something like this, I'll try to check out that book.
 
ssb
ssb
This was in the related books
No idea how reputable it is
@Kimball see above
I know even less of what there is in Japanese. Hopefully someone better versed in such subjects can offer a more authoritative recommendation.
 
 
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Xeo
Xeo
8:19 AM
@Daniel I just checked the book again, and on the cover it says 「でも、ないものがひとつ。」 - that seems to confirm my interpretation.
 
Daniel
Daniel
9:07 AM
Yes, I just misread それ, that's why I dind't understand it
 
Xeo
Xeo
Ah, I see. What did you read it as?
 
ssb
ssb
9:39 AM
I wonder what happened in Japanese culture to make them latch onto ダーリン as the go-to pet name for a lover
 
Anonymous
The author of this answer seems quite confident in their interpretation
 
Anonymous
They can't believe someone might disagree
 
Anonymous
I know we have a meta post about negativity right now
 
Anonymous
But I think it's helpful when people downvote answers they think are clearly wrong or misleading
 
Anonymous
Leaving comments instead is helpful too…
 
Anonymous
9:44 AM
But sometimes I'm reluctant to leave comments when users get angry about negative feedback
 
Anonymous
Like, I didn't leave a comment just now explaining why I downvoted…
 
Anonymous
I think it's a more significant problem when people leave rude comments
 
Anonymous
The same author wrote another answer, and I had to delete rude comments on that answer
 
Anonymous
I'd rather distinguish politely disagreeing (which I think can be helpful for the site) from actual "negativity" (being rude, mocking an answer, etc., which I think is not helpful at all)
 
ssb
ssb
I'd never refrain from posting constructive criticism
If someone wants to reveal themselves to be a jerk then that is their prerogative
 
Anonymous
10:02 AM
@Kimball Hmm…
 
Anonymous
I have both of the books ssb linked to, but they are in English (and both are technical books, the history of language being a technical subject)
 
Anonymous
I have some books about the history of Japanese in Japanese but...
 
Anonymous
They don't fit what you're asking about either…
 
Anonymous
I looked online and I found this book and looked at it briefly, but I haven't read it:
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
10:03 AM
There we go, managed to link to it on my third try :-)
 
Kimball
Kimball
11:05 AM
@snailboat Thanks, glancing at that book online looks like its not too hard to read. I'll see if I can find it in a bookstore to flip through and check out more thoroughly (hopefully its popular enough to be in stock at some big bookstores).
 
ssb
ssb
11:28 AM
Have you tried yet just going to bookstores and looking at what they have?
 
 
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Daniel
Daniel
6:36 PM
@Xeo I think as そこ：そこは、ことば
 
Xeo
Xeo
7:08 PM
ah
 

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