deutschsprachiger Raum

Takkat

19:21

@Boob should be now ;)

Boob

19:32

@Takkat Wooohooo.

Takkat

Outspoken is much harder to get.

But if there will be an active chat here maybe not

@Boob just checking - they seem not to update usernames in chatroom

no, they don't.

Boob

Yes, I changed it yesterday but still people call me Boob

Takkat

well, you're still not listed as @Explorer here in chat.

did you get a notification?

Boob

Nope

"Talkative" badge?

Takkat

Explorer has it. Boob does not exist. Weird

Boob

19:42

GL&U Room is going to be frozen

Takkat

frozen why?

Boob

Everyone is on silent mode =\

Takkat

ssh - in case someone sleeps.

OregonGhost

Silent because watching Edel & Starck, season 2, episode 12... Not sleeping yet ;)

Takkat

the advocates? Never saw it - I tend to avoid watching series

Boob

19:47

shhh , in case of watching movies , especially season 2 of it

Takkat

Episode 12!

Boob

I'm thinking of how to make others awake.

Takkat

TV is always louder :/

OregonGhost

@Takkat: I love it. It's a German Abklatsch of Ally McBeal, yet has enough character on its own. I also don't watch series in TV typically except for Sunday, but like watching them on DVD (or, in this case, VoD) :)

Takkat

I had my harddisk attached to the TV in case I may need it.

But this didn't happen.

Maybe I remove it again.

Boob

19:53

@Takkat Let's shout out loud

Takkat

does not work

Boob

You'll need it as soon as you remove , I bet

We missed one user =\

Takkat

Tim?

Boob

Hallo , llo , o , o (echoes)

@toscho

Takkat

I once woke up half of SE

This was embarrassing.

I thought chat flags are for the one site only

Boob

19:57

Which one?

Takkat

As soon as you flag a chat message all >10k users on all sites get a notice.

(wouldn't matter if noone is online - but they were)

Boob

Wah, I didn't know that

Takkat

I know now. I said it was embarassing..

Boob

I don't know , even now

Takkat

maybe it's only mods - but I've heard that you get chat flags when >10k too

Boob

20:02

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Q: Is there an "etw." that shows grammatical case?

I've been learning verbs and their prepositions with a list like this: sich mit jdm. treffen sich über jdn. ärgern sich von jdm. trennen Jemanden/jemandem are great for this purpose, since I can learn the phrase in a form that is close to actual usage, while still learning the correct case af...

Takkat

:)

Boob

By the way, your profile is the most complete ever

I can't understand the question =/

Takkat

it's sufficient, isn't it?

@Boob he's asking for a replacement of "etwas"

Tim

Looks like I'll have to start "Q: Is there a verb that only takes things, not persons?"

Boob

Anyway, Tim is a question-producer .. at the speed of creativity

@Takkat Yes but what does it mean

Tim

20:08

@Boob: Well, if German was a little easier, that wouldn't be necessary :)

Takkat

@Tim:

de.wiktionary.org/wiki/Hilfe:Wortart

this one's better.

Boob

@Tim That's damn right.

Takkat

@Tim Was Deine Frage angeht, ich kann Dir versichern, dass es genug Deutsche gibt, die genau da auch ihre Schwierigkeiten haben.

Tim

@Takkat Super, das klingt fair :)

Boob

I'm feeling dumb, I can't understand the question

Tim

20:12

Aber ich wäre gern besser als ein Muttersprachler.

3

Takkat

;)

brb

Tim

Irgendwie glaube ich dass mein Satz nicht korrekt war...

OregonGhost

@Tim: Welcher Satz?

Tim

@OregonGhost Der Sternsatz, 22:12.

OregonGhost

@Tim: Da ist aus meiner Sicht alles absolut korrekt

Tim

20:15

Achso! Super.

@Boob: The verbs "sich treffen" needs a preposition + dative object, usually written like "sich mit jemandeM treffen". If I learn that phrase, I won't need to remember that it's a dative object. With "sich über jemandeN ärgern", it's accusative because of jemanden. In some verbs though, it doesn't make sense to use jemanden/jemandem. Unfortunately, etwas is the same in the accusative and dative, so I can't say "sich über etwas ärgern" and remember the case of the object.

Boob

20:41

@Tim sich etw. von jdm. erhoffen?

@Tim Thanks for clarification

Tim

@Boob: I think that's a good example. No preposition before etw. though.

Boob

@Tim It's terribly hard, I'd rather answer another question, no thanks. Huh.

Tim

At least you've managed to answer something!

I'm a little embarassed here with a load of questions and no answers.

The community should ask more simple questions, preferrably right when I refresh the front page.

Boob

@Tim You're trying to prove that the probability of dumb user is more than smart ones?

Tim

@Boob What? I don't understand.

Boob

20:48

@Tim Gib es auf, ich habe auch nicht verstanden

Tim

Ok :)

Boob

We're suffering lack of experts, somehow.

Tim

The community?

I think we've got a couple of native German linguists.

Boob

Yum.

Let's star each other.

@Tim darf ich dir etwas fragen? bitte?

Tim

Klar

Boob

20:57

"Unfortunately, etwas is the same in the accusative and dative, so I can't say "sich über etwas ärgern" and remember the case of the object." So what do you want?

Sorry for being extremely dumb.

OregonGhost

@Boob: Wenn es dich interessiert: Es heißt "Darf ich dich etwas fragen?" :)

Tim

I want a word with approx. the same meaning as "etwas", but that has different forms in accusative and dative, like "jemanden"/"jemandem".

@OregonGhost Echt? Zwei Ackusativ?

Boob

@OregonGhost Wah, tut mir wirklich leid, ich kann kein Deutsch

@Tim Hooray, got it finally.

Tim

Great :D

OregonGhost

@Boob: Ja, eben, jetzt kannst du es etwas besser ;)

Boob

21:01

@OregonGhost Yup, danke.

OregonGhost

@Tim: Ja, zweimal. Hihi, bei dem Beispiel könnte man etwas nicht durch jemanden ersetzen: "Jemanden etwas fragen"... Kniffliges Beispiel passend zu deiner Frage :X

Tim

@OregonGhost: Haha, danke. Ich will meine Frage editen :)

OregonGhost

Wie dem auch sei. Ich geh. Gute Nacht.

Tim

Gute Nacht.

Takkat

Gute Nacht @OregonGhost

Boob

21:04

@OregonGhost Nacht.

Tim

@Boob Anyway, did you find the answer to your adjective-declension question?

Boob

@Tim Not yet

Tim

@Boob The adjective is never inclined if it follows one of the verbs sein, werden, bleiben, heißen, gelten als and sich erweisen.

Then it's a Subjektsprädikativ. See:

Predicative (adjectival or nominal)

In grammar, a predicative is an element of the predicate of a sentence which supplements the subject or object by means of the verb. A predicative may be nominal or adjectival (and also adverbial). If the complement after a linking verb is a noun or a pronoun, it is called a predicate nominative. If the complement after a linking verb is an adjective, it is called a predicate adjective. :He seems nice. (adjectival predicative of the subject) :Bob is a postman. (nominal predicative of the subject) :We painted the door white. (adjectival predicative of the object) :They elected him presid...

Boob

@Tim Which question you mean?

singular verb for plural subject?

Tim

Genau.

Boob

21:14

"Famillie" = "Subjektsprädikativ"?

Tim

"geil" = Subjektsprädikativ

Familie = Subjekt

Boob

Aha, got it .

Thanks a lot @Tim

Should I post it now? ;)

Tim

Sure. You already know the answer though :p

Boob

I'm an ethical lady, When I promise I have to do. Huh.

Takkat

Time for me to leave. Gute Nacht und bis morgen vielleicht.

Tim

21:23

Gute Nacht @Takkat

Boob

@Takkat Gute Nacht.

@Tim does this one match your case?

"sich nur noch dunkel erinnern an"

(akkusativ)

Tim

@Boob Meinst du, wie eine Antwort für meine etw-Frage?

Boob

@Tim Genau

Tim

@Boob Ich suche ein Wort, das geht mit jeden Verb und Präposition

Boob

XD Ok.

I made you angry.

Tim

21:38

Hm, ich vergaß den Smilie :)

Keine Wut.

Boob

auf jdn/etw eine wut haben

Tomalak

@Tim "jeden" oder "jemanden"? o.O

Tim

@Tomalak Mit jedem Verb. Jeden war Betonungskursiv, nicht Zitatkursiv.

Tomalak

@Tim "jedem", dann.

Tim

Ah, danke.

Tomalak

21:43

@Tim ;-) Akkusativ.

Tim

@Tomalak Auch für "mit jedem Verb und Präposition"? Ich denke das es plural ist.

Boob

Let's kill ourselves for German cases

Tomalak

@Tim "mit jedem Verb und (jeder) Präposition", ja

Tim

@Boob I studied Russian before German. Only four cases is great.

@Tomalak Aha, ich verstehe. Danke.

Tomalak

@Tim Agree. Sprichst du noch Russisch?

Tim

21:45

@Tomalak нет.

Tomalak

@Tim Ich auch nicht :\

Tim

I've even forgotten where the characters are on the keyboard, it took a long time to write the above.

Tomalak

@Tim I would have copied it off GT ;)

Tim

@Tomalak :) Clever.

Tomalak

So sieht's aus. ;)

Boob

21:48

Even worse =D

Tim

Copying related sentences from ru.wikipedia.org would seem a bit suspicious, though.

Tomalak

@Boob If I wouldn't already know the cases, I would have my issues with them myself. ;)

Boob

@Tomalak Like what I do now. Hihi.

It was unrelated.

@Tim Wie bitte?

Tim

22:11

@Boob Was?

Boob

@Tim Wer?

(it wasn't me)

It would be nice if we could remove users.

Tim

Warum?

Boob

nur so.

Tim

It would be nice if I spoke German.

Like, correctly.

Boob

Warum?

Tim

22:17

Then I could answer a few questions here, too.

Boob

Then what would happen?

Tim

I'd derive satisfaction from it. But of course, life is pointless anyway.

Boob

Life is life. lala la lala.

Tim

22:47

Gute Nacht!

Boob

@Tim Gute Nacht, schlaf gut.

Boob

23:26

Gute Nacht, ob da noch jemand ist.

toscho

@Boob Gute Nacht. :)

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