Election 2016!

CMC: Guess how many electoral votes Trump will get. Winner gets own cookie.

@HelkaHomba 207

1:21 AM

I say 220

Closest answer wins if no exact winner

216

@HelkaHomba @Geobits where's the fastest of the west electoral college map?

The, uh... what?

@Geobits Fastest updating electoral college map.

NBC was faster than google

That's because google doesn't "call" states, they look for networks to call them.

They all update in real time as they get the info though. Some may make calls at different times, but there's no one "fastest" map.

@Geobits Fastest online map?

1:35 AM

Are the Democrats really winning in Texas? o_O

@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC I just said there isn't one fastest one.

Doorknob

@Dennis Scroll up :P

@Dennis Only a few counties have released results.

@Dennis Probably not. Only 1% reporting so far

Doorknob

Also, not anymore, actually.

1:36 AM

Ah, OK.

Google changed their UI.

last year the colors were switched :P

@arda What do you think so far? Erodgan isn't in this one...

Let's talk congress.

What's with the donkey and the elephant?

@Dennis donkey = dem, elephant = repub; did you not know? :P

I guessed that, but what's the connection?

Alyson Kennedy is the Socialist Worker's party's candidate

@Dennis dunno

Well I know for dems.

They were called jackasses. They like the name. They adopted it as their avatar. True story.

Trump is winning florida! Most counties have reported!

1:41 AM

@Dennis The democrats get their animal from Andrew Jackson, who was nicknamed the jackass.

ninja'd

Huh. TIL

@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC last I saw only 60% reporting

What about the elephant?

^

Florida politico.com/2016-election/results/map/president/florida

1:43 AM

The gerrymandering is real...

49% of the vote, most of the counties. Wow.

Well yeah. Most of the counties have low population.

You'll notice the only major city that's red is Jacksonville.

Where in Florida are you? (If you don't mind my asking)

In one of the blue areas ;)

Aren't most of yall?

Most of us what?

1:48 AM

Floridians

I'm not sure what the exact breakdown is, but the urban areas are mostly blue, yeah.

It's interesting, this the first close election I've seen. In the only other ones I remember, Obama was pretty far ahead

interesting I remember 2012 being a lot closer than this

Bush vs Gore was pretty close, putting it mildly.

Yeah, but I was 3 when that happened. :P

1:53 AM

You gotta remember there are kids here that weren't born then :P

And I don't remember 04

Geez, now I feel old. Thanks.

Any time

I'm not even on the young side as far as TNB goes.

All those 13-16 year olds

I'd be shocked if some of them weren't 12 tbh

2:00 AM

CMC: Which news site has the cutest cartoon donkey/elephant.

Polls about to close in 14 states!

Sp3000

I don't know about donkey/elephant, but The Guardian has somewhat cute character images (and quotes, once in a while)

Huffposts are cute elections.huffingtonpost.com/2016/results/senate

I got 110 rep on Politics today :D

2:20 AM

It looks like trump is gonna win, the map is ominous...

See, that's why you should wait.

@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC You must be new here

@quartata what? why? I posted the fourth message

New to elections, not the chat room.

I am new, yeah.

2:25 AM

Republicans generally win the larger less populus states

So, election predictions.

@quartata why do you say that?

Senate is head to head; house is repub

Yeah all the shiny red things look intimidating but they aren't really the states that matter

I'm mostly just watching for the senate; I'm fairly confident that Clinton will wrap up in Florida and then it's gg

Trump can't lose a battleground state

Even if Clinton looses Florida Trump has an uphill battle

Senate looks like it's going to stay in R hands.

Just not by so big a margin as it currently is.

Bleh.

2:29 AM

I thought most of the senate seats that aren't open for election corresponded to the jackasses.

Republicans had more to lose, but a lot of them weren't really that competitive also. So they'll lose a few seats, but retain overall control (or so it seems right now).

You obviously understand this better than I do, but by my count, Democrats currently have 78 while Republicans have 72, and 18 are still to be disputed.

Wait, no that can't be right.

Oh, Google includes all seats in their interactive thingie, disputed or not...

Right

And the ones that are left disputed are more safely republican ones.

10/10 very confusing

I'm kinda surprised 4% of the voters are wasting their votes on other candidates. With the system you have over there, that seems entirely pointless.

Kinda. If a party gets 5%, they qualify for more funding options for following races.

2:36 AM

Still, those 4% could very well make the difference.

In a lot of states (for instance mine) the result is almost guaranteed. Voting for a third party can be a political statement and can help support your candidate in the next election.

Yeah, that too. Voting third party in somewhere like Florida, though... that's really just a big FU to both of the major candidates.

1000000000

Maine has got a ranked choice voting referendum on their ballot which would make third party votes more than just a protest vote

Ooh interesting

feersum

Or at least, protest while at the same time influencing the outcome.

2:44 AM

Well, with only four electoral votes and no other states doing it, that sounds like a sure-fire way to get politicians to ignore your state for a while.

Wow. 80% against Colorado care

@Geobits Sure but it's still interesting

Oh sure. I'm not saying it isn't. Just that it makes things harder for them to guess, so unless there's a big stake involved, it makes the state less influential than it is now imo.

1000000000

If it gets some national attention though, you might see it cropping up in other states

Downgoat

> Looking at election map results and I think I underestimated the number of racists in America.

:|

2:51 AM

^

@1000000000 I agree, this would be the best long-term solution. That's why I ended my first comment with "for a while".

1000000000

Personally I hope we get rid of the Electoral College while we are at it

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I think winner takes all sucks. It is why we are stuck with a two party system.

The united states is at the intersection of 3 terrible voting systems. fptp, electoral college and winner takes all

so true

2:59 AM

I would suggest that we split up the country like divorced parents. Winner gets Wednesday - Saturday, Loser gets Sunday - Tuesday

5

Independents are underperforming.

@quartata Trump has electoral college AND florida.

Cooper and McCrory are head to head at 49%, both

Does anyone still have that poll closing time map that was in TNB before?

I don't get what people have against winner takes all

For one it gives a lot of power to swing states

@quartata It prevents small parties (such as a socialist party) from having any representation in government.

3:13 AM

My model, based off the latest polling stats, shows trump winning by 13 votes:

@WheatWizard nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/07/us/elections/…

not the one I was thinking of, looks even better.Thanks!

@Shog9, woah, you're here?

Bottom line: It's not going to be a landslide HRC victory

Doorknob

@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Florida as strongly red seems a bit dubious

@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC yep. Armed with popcorn & whiskey

Especially when Pennsylvania is only slightly blue

3:17 AM

Oh. I should get the rum and crackers then

@DrMcMoylex kinda bummed about that; didn't expect it to pass, but hoped it'd be closer.

Also not happy about the direction 71 is taking :-/

Oh, you're from ~~colorado~~ the best state too?

let's not quibble about where I'm from - I'm here now, so it's what I care about

chuffed to see Johnson doing as well as he is

I'm not sure I get why 71 is a big deal

It doesn't seem to matter either way

more the folks who are behind 71

the goal isn't to block amendments, it's to make them more predictable

3:21 AM

So are you against it then?

Oh, I forgot I had this stuff. Seems perfect for the occasion:

3:43 AM

Well that just turned around

Major update! This sake that's been sitting in my cupboard for a few years is actually really good. Never had this brand before, but it's not half bad at all.

good to hear!

Downgoat

@noɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC ono ;______________;

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