Casual Chat Chess

Geobits

00:08

Well, so much for prodding.

01:49

hey

13. Qd1
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |   |  .|bK |bR.|   |bB.|   |bR.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|bQ |  .| b | b.| b |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|bB |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   | b.| b |  .|   |wN.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |   |  .|   |bN.| w |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .| w |  .|   | w.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|wB | w.|

@Geobits sorry that took so long

Geobits

02:53

No worries

13. ... h6
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |   |  .|bK |bR.|   |bB.|   |bR.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|bQ |  .| b | b.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   | b.| b |  .|   |wN.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |   |  .|   |bN.| w |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .| w |  .|   | w.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|wB | w.|

Destructible Watermelon

14. Bh3
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |   |  .|bK |bR.|   |bB.|   |bR.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|bQ |  .| b | b.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   | b.| b |  .|   |wN.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |   |  .|   |bN.| w |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .| w |  .|   | w.|wB |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

Geobits

Ouch

14. ... f5
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |   |  .|bK |bR.|   |bB.|   |bR.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|bQ |  .|   | b.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   | b.| b |  .| b |wN.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |   |  .|   |bN.| w |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .| w |  .|   | w.|wB |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

Destructible Watermelon

I'll be back later

El'endia Starman

03:56

@Geobits Oy, yeah. Luckily you had some options for defense.

bwoebi

07:23

@Geobits that's actually what I would have played too :-P

bwoebi

08:16

@El'endiaStarman "Luckily" … I had seen that while castling

I currently see Nf3 as only option, but it'll be probably followed by dxe4

bwoebi

08:43

There are, if I don't miss anything, two paths:

Destructible Watermelon

@bwoebi if you recapture after that there isn't a threat, until king move, or similar

bwoebi

@DestructibleWatermelon you have to analyze that further

all variants after dxe4 lead to losing a piece for white

at best only a pawn…

@DestructibleWatermelon but recapturing will definitely loose a real piece and not just a pawn

Destructible Watermelon

after dxe4, recapture with d pawn. They cannot recapture immediately with f pawn, because it is pinned, they would have to lose a tempo to be unpin to do that

bwoebi

See: Nf3 dxe4 dxe4 Bh5

Destructible Watermelon

? L

bwoebi

08:54

@DestructibleWatermelon sorry, German notation^^ meant B

Destructible Watermelon

how would that happen

oh, sorry, got confused

also why not Qxh5 in response?

bwoebi

@DestructibleWatermelon the knight is in between?

at f3

Destructible Watermelon

oh

I got confused

bwoebi

yes, get an analysis board and play around

Destructible Watermelon

analysis?

do you mean computer thing?

rule 5 pls?

bwoebi

08:57

@DestructibleWatermelon no, just a board without computer

Destructible Watermelon

oh

bwoebi

I mean where you can look at the moves

Destructible Watermelon

ok

hmmmm, you know what

this isn't the greatest move, but it's been so long

bwoebi

I think there is one path where it's balanced

Destructible Watermelon

I was about to make a move, but go on?

bwoebi

09:05

Nf3 dxe4 dxe4 Bh5 Nxd4 Bxd1 Bxf5 Qxf5 Nxf5 Bf3

Destructible Watermelon

You know, insane moves are always more fun than logical ones, so can I post please (it isn't a move with no point, though)

sorry, I got confused

bwoebi

this way white ends up with one pawn more it cannot defend though

but gives white one or two moves to develop a tiny bit

I'd say the situation is marginally better for white then, but pretty balanced

Destructible Watermelon

hmmmmmm

I want to do my weird move

bwoebi

so … Nf3 is probably indeed best

@DestructibleWatermelon which is?

Destructible Watermelon

....

Ne6

bwoebi

09:11

Ne6 => Qxe6??

Destructible Watermelon

why would Qxe6 be a blunder

bwoebi

No it wouldn't

Destructible Watermelon

please, you can play black

bwoebi

I mean, Ne6 would be one

Destructible Watermelon

that's the point

bwoebi

09:12

huh?

Destructible Watermelon

I mean that the queen captures

I'm playing it, you can play black

15. Ne6
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |   |  .|bK |bR.|   |bB.|   |bR.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|bQ |  .|   | b.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|wN |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   | b.| b |  .| b |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |   |  .|   |bN.| w |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .| w |  .|   | w.|wB |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

bwoebi

why are you doing that?

Destructible Watermelon

You'll see

play your move

I should probably have annotated it with !? or ?!, whichever is appropriate

bwoebi

15... Qxe6
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |   |  .|bK |bR.|   |bB.|   |bR.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|bQ |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   | b.| b |  .| b |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |   |  .|   |bN.| w |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .| w |  .|   | w.|wB |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

good, I'm letting me surprise

Destructible Watermelon

16. Qa4
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |   |  .|bK |bR.|   |bB.|   |bR.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|bQ |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   | b.| b |  .| b |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |wQ |  .|   |bN.| w |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .| w |  .|   | w.|wB |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

these moves are what you might call esoteric

or stupid

take your pick

bwoebi

09:17

I pick the latter!?

Destructible Watermelon

hah

move pls

bwoebi

minute

16... Kb8
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |   |bK.|   |bR.|   |bB.|   |bR.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|bQ |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   | b.| b |  .| b |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |wQ |  .|   |bN.| w |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .| w |  .|   | w.|wB |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

Destructible Watermelon

good stuff

bwoebi

I was still verifying whether there's a better move than that^^

Now that white has sacrificed its knight, black is just going to try to cleanup

Destructible Watermelon

17 Bf4+
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |   |bK.|   |bR.|   |bB.|   |bR.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|bQ |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   | b.| b |  .| b |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |wQ |  .|   |bN.| w |wB.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .| w |  .|   | w.|wB |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

bwoebi

09:28

17... Bd6
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |   |bK.|   |bR.|   |  .|   |bR.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |bB.|bQ |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   | b.| b |  .| b |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |wQ |  .|   |bN.| w |wB.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .| w |  .|   | w.|wB |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

Destructible Watermelon

as expected

bwoebi

Bf4 was expected too

Destructible Watermelon

18 Rac1
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |   |bK.|   |bR.|   |  .|   |bR.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |bB.|bQ |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   | b.| b |  .| b |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |wQ |  .|   |bN.| w |wB.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .| w |  .|   | w.|wB |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

bwoebi

18... Ne2+
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |   |bK.|   |bR.|   |  .|   |bR.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |bB.|bQ |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   | b.| b |  .| b |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |wQ |  .|   |  .| w |wB.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .| w |  .|   | w.|wB |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|bN | w.|   | w.|

no blunders please :-P

Destructible Watermelon

write check

also fuck

bwoebi

09:32

I'm not blind :-P

Destructible Watermelon

19 Kh1
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |   |bK.|   |bR.|   |  .|   |bR.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |bB.|bQ |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   | b.| b |  .| b |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |wQ |  .|   |  .| w |wB.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .| w |  .|   | w.|wB |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|bN | w.|   | w.|

bwoebi

good

19... Nxc1
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |   |bK.|   |bR.|   |  .|   |bR.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |bB.|bQ |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   | b.| b |  .| b |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |wQ |  .|   |  .| w |wB.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .| w |  .|   | w.|wB |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

now Txc1, right?

Destructible Watermelon

wrong notation again

bwoebi

Eih, Rxc1^^

Destructible Watermelon

maybe :p

bwoebi

09:38

Rxc1 Ka8 I think

or maybe b6

Destructible Watermelon

20 Rxc1
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |   |bK.|   |bR.|   |  .|   |bR.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |bB.|bQ |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   | b.| b |  .| b |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |wQ |  .|   |  .| w |wB.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .| w |  .|   | w.|wB |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

bwoebi

20... Bxf4
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |   |bK.|   |bR.|   |  .|   |bR.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|bQ |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   | b.| b |  .| b |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |wQ |  .|   |  .| w |bB.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .| w |  .|   | w.|wB |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

Destructible Watermelon

21 gxf4
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |   |bK.|   |bR.|   |  .|   |bR.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|bQ |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   | b.| b |  .| b |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |wQ |  .|   |  .| w | w.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .| w |  .|   |  .|wB |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

bwoebi

@Adnan If you're here, I'd love to continue after 14... f5 instead of that blunder by @DestructibleWatermelon …

Destructible Watermelon

how dare you

bwoebi

09:45

21... dxe4
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |   |bK.|   |bR.|   |  .|   |bR.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|bQ |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   | b.|   |  .| b |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |wQ |  .|   |  .| b | w.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .| w |  .|   |  .|wB |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

@DestructibleWatermelon :-)

Destructible Watermelon

argh

hmmmmmmmmmm

got a couple choices here

I feel like you actually want me to recapture, but it seems like it won't actually make a difference

also the only blunder I made was losing the rook

bwoebi

The first choice is giving up, the second choice is offering a draw which I'll decline and you'll recurse to first choice :-P

Destructible Watermelon

I'd rather not

bwoebi

@DestructibleWatermelon you can ask the computer to evaluate the situation after your knight sacrifice if you wish…

Destructible Watermelon

later

also if you did that, you are cheat

bwoebi

09:49

I did not…

Destructible Watermelon

good

bwoebi

I mean, you can do now, for the situation right after the knight sacrifice

Destructible Watermelon

22 dxe4
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |   |bK.|   |bR.|   |  .|   |bR.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|bQ |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   | b.|   |  .| b |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |wQ |  .|   |  .| w | w.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|wB |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

bwoebi

For the situation after the knight sacrifice I get a -6.5 o_O

(I do not look at the current situation)

Destructible Watermelon

"blunder"

hah

jerk

bwoebi

09:51

?

Destructible Watermelon

you called my move a blunder

bwoebi

(I mean, white is losing)

@DestructibleWatermelon which it is^^

Destructible Watermelon

confuse

There is a difference between blunder and playing interesting move

bwoebi

(it's -4for white, and +4 for black)

@DestructibleWatermelon I did not find it interesting

There are interesting moves which turn out to be bad choices much later, but this wasn't one of them

Destructible Watermelon

40 mins ago, by bwoebi

why are you doing that?

that generally means you are surprised

bwoebi

09:53

@DestructibleWatermelon I am surprised why you're playing a blunder^^

Destructible Watermelon

shhh

Geobits

13:21

What in the world happened in here?

bwoebi

13:39

@Geobits well, we turned to playing some actual live chess after Destructible Watermelon thought a blunder would be an interesting move

El'endia Starman

14:29

→ 103 messages moved to Casual Chat Chess - Live!

Hmm. Looks like SE's chat engine doesn't have a contingency plan for when almost all of the messages on the page are moved. :P

El'endia Starman

15:10

5 hours ago, by Destructible Watermelon

22 dxe4
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |   |bK.|   |bR.|   |  .|   |bR.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|bQ |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   | b.|   |  .| b |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |wQ |  .|   |  .| w | w.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|wB |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

^ Most recent move so you don't have to click "load older messages".

bwoebi

@El'endiaStarman you just need to refresh, then you see it again

But TBH that game is now fucked up … I'd rather start a new one ^^

El'endia Starman

@bwoebi Oh hey, sure enough. Didn't work the first time.

@bwoebi Nope, that's not happening!

bwoebi

@El'endiaStarman So, shall I try to find the worst possible moves for white instead? :-)

El'endia Starman

@bwoebi No.

bwoebi

[not really - I'm just not interested in continuing]

El'endia Starman

15:17

@bwoebi Then simply don't play any moves!

bwoebi

which is what I'm planning to do

Geobits

15:41

@El'endiaStarman TIL oneboxing an old board chops off the bottom row as usual, but there's no "see more" option :P

El'endia Starman

@Geobits Yeah, TIL for me too. That's annoying. :P

Geobits

Oh, what the hell. Let's take a pawn:

22 ... fxe4
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |   |bK.|   |bR.|   |  .|   |bR.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|bQ |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   | b.|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |wQ |  .|   |  .| b | w.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|wB |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

:P

El'endia Starman

I thought about that too, but then I noticed White's bishop on h3...

Geobits

I figured the game needed a bit of evening out to keep people interested.

El'endia Starman

Haha, sure sure...

PhiNotPi

15:50

Bxe6

El'endia Starman

23 Bxe6
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |   |bK.|   |bR.|   |  .|   |bR.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|wB |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   | b.|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |wQ |  .|   |  .| b | w.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

Geobits

Lol if there's one thing I generally keep my eye on, it's clearly obvious threats to the queen :P

PhiNotPi

I suggest moving the h8 rook out soon.

Geobits

Yeah, I was thinking Rf8

El'endia Starman

Yeah, that seems like a good choice. Could also b6 to back up that unprotected pawn on c5, but that's probably a bad idea long-term.

Geobits

15:53

23 ... Rhf8
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |   |bK.|   |bR.|   |bR.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|wB |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   | b.|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |wQ |  .|   |  .| b | w.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

PhiNotPi

@El'endiaStarman lol @ you just dumping the live chess into another room

bwoebi

@Geobits this was fxe4 btw., not dxe4

Geobits

>_>

woops

I figured it was terrible enough that the notation didn't matter.

bwoebi

haha, well said

PhiNotPi

I suggest Rxc5

bwoebi

15:59

@Geobits Losing the queen was like the single move which would make you lose the game…

El'endia Starman

@bwoebi Your eyes must be playing tricks on you. Look again.

10 mins ago, by Geobits

I figured the game needed a bit of evening out to keep people interested.

Geobits

@bwoebi I had to do something:

42 mins ago, by bwoebi

[not really - I'm just not interested in continuing]

bwoebi

@El'endiaStarman the problem is that it didn't even it out, but balance it strongly in favor of white :-D

Geobits

Well, it would've been hard to even it completely.

El'endia Starman

@bwoebi So, here's your challenge: make black win without making any bad moves for white. :P

bwoebi

16:03

@El'endiaStarman E_IMPOSSIBLE

PhiNotPi

24. Rxc5
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |   |bK.|   |bR.|   |bR.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|wB |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   |wR.|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |wQ |  .|   |  .| b | w.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

El'endia Starman

@bwoebi Did you see the second game Lichess analysis? That was me vs DestructibleWatermelon, and I almost lost.

One move made all the difference.

bwoebi

@El'endiaStarman yeah, I did … the chess played there was awful :-P

El'endia Starman

@bwoebi Haha, indeed. I was playing fairly fast and loose at the beginning for fun.

bwoebi

16:18

Well, your opening was fine at least

El'endia Starman

Where basically all of the blunders were? :P

bwoebi

I mean like the first 7 moves or such

I'm not talking about that… Gambit.

El'endia Starman

Actually, I think others might have played those moves.

Adnan

24... Rxf4
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |   |bK.|   |bR.|   |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|wB |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   |wR.|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |wQ |  .|   |  .| b |bR.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

not that there's any hope in it :p

bwoebi

@Adnan shall we rather play another 5-0 game?

Adnan

16:22

Not today haha, I'm actually working right now

bwoebi

@Adnan don't know about your timezone … in CEST it's already evening…

El'endia Starman

@bwoebi Wait, what's CEST? I was thinking Central Eastern Standard Time, but I'm not sure that timezone actually exists, and furthermore, if it did, it'd be morning for you.

Adnan

It's 18:24 here

bwoebi

@El'endiaStarman central european summer time

El'endia Starman

@bwoebi Okay, that makes a lot more sense. :P

bwoebi

16:26

@Adnan oh well… so evening shift? … good luck then

Adnan

thanks :p

El'endia Starman

16:38

@Adnan Oh shoot, Black must keep a rook on the back rank, because otherwise, Rc8++.

25 Qd4
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |   |bK.|   |bR.|   |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|wB |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   |wR.|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |   |  .|   |wQ.| b |bR.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

bwoebi

It's tempting to play Rxd4 :-D

Adnan

Okay, one more move and I'm back to work :p

25... Rff8
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |   |bK.|   |bR.|   |bR.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|wB |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   |wR.|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |   |  .|   |wQ.| b |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

El'endia Starman

26 Qe5+
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |   |bK.|   |bR.|   |bR.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|wB |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   |wR.|   |wQ.|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |   |  .|   |  .| b |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

Adnan

26... Ka8
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |bK |  .|   |bR.|   |bR.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|wB |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   |wR.|   |wQ.|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |   |  .|   |  .| b |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

bwoebi

27. Qxg7
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |bK |  .|   |bR.|   |bR.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   |wQ.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|wB |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   |wR.|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |   |  .|   |  .| b |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

PhiNotPi

16:48

black's hope for checkmate is to block off the g2 square and then play Rd1.

bwoebi

yeah, but black is too slow for that

Geobits

I was trying to figure something with Rxf2 / Rd1, but I don't think it can be done.

PhiNotPi

We need to use his bishop for that

El'endia Starman

Aaand Black's pawn on e4 is in the way.

PhiNotPi

but he has a pawn in his way, it will take two moves to get in position

bwoebi

16:49

yep ^^

PhiNotPi

I say... Bh5

bwoebi

(which is why Qxg7, to annoy the bishop)

Adnan

27... e3
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |bK |  .|   |bR.|   |bR.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   |wQ.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|wB |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   |wR.|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

PhiNotPi

wow that was the wrong move

Bh5 would have worked

Adnan

what was the wrong move?

Rxh5?

PhiNotPi

16:51

oh nvm

El'endia Starman

If Black goes Rxf2, then White's reply would properly be Kg1, since then they can follow up Black's Rd1 with Kxf2.

bwoebi

28. Bd5
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |bK |  .|   |bR.|   |bR.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   |wQ.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|bB | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   |wR.|wB |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

Adnan

I thought you weren't going to play anymore :p?

I give up after Bd5

bwoebi

I want to help finish the game :-P

El'endia Starman

Bh5 for Black probably would've been better since Black's pawn on e4 would've shielded Black's bishop from White's bishop.

Adnan

16:53

Rxh5?

PhiNotPi

How about exf2? protected by the rook

Adnan

Qxb7# is threatening

El'endia Starman

@PhiNotPi Rxf2 would be better since that rook would now be protected. Unfortunately, Black's chance at Rd1# is now blocked by White's bishop on d5.

PhiNotPi

Rf7 or Bf7 for now to prevent checkmate?

El'endia Starman

@PhiNotPi Followed up by Bxf7 from White. Delays checkmate by a little, but not by much.

Geobits

16:55

I don't think anything delays it by much :P

bwoebi

right

El'endia Starman

@PhiNotPi Actually, that isn't a bad idea at all. If Black can only get an extra turn afterwards, f1 = Q#.

Maybe Rg8 is the ticket for Black.

No wait, that doesn't block the checkmate. Nevermind...

Geobits

Bxg8?

Or that, yeah

bwoebi

@El'endiaStarman Rg8 doesn't work as long as there's a bishop on that diagonal

PhiNotPi

Be4+?

bwoebi

16:58

I'm sure you can delay checkmate by a bit with Bf7 and then going down with the pawn on the e line etc.

but it's worth nothing

PhiNotPi

if black white does Bxe4 we follow it up with Rd1+

bwoebi

@PhiNotPi Bxe4?

@PhiNotPi Kg2 then and you're done

MegaTom

Rb8?

El'endia Starman

Ignoring the immediate checkmate, I was thinking 28. ... Rg8 29. Bxg8 Rxg8 30. Qxg8 exf2 31. Rc1 Bd3...wait a minute, White would've already had checkmate at 30. Qxg8+ Be8 31. Qxe8#. Shoot.

What about 28. ... Be4+ 29. Bxe4 Rg8? Have a chance at taking the queen? No wait, nevermind, 29. Qxb7#.

PhiNotPi

better idea

El'endia Starman

17:02

Darn that queen!

MegaTom

Ignoring the immediate checkmate, I was thinking exf2 would be a good move.

PhiNotPi

be4+ Bxe4 Rd1+ Kg2 Rxf2+

Geobits

"Ignoring the immediate loss, black could almost not lose this thing!"

bwoebi

hahahah

El'endia Starman

@Geobits Haha, yup.

PhiNotPi

17:05

Then after that... Rg1+

El'endia Starman

@PhiNotPi And then Kxf2, surely?

PhiNotPi

I think this is a really good plan

@El'endiaStarman protected by pawn

El'endia Starman

Oooh right!

PhiNotPi

and then we skewer the queen!!!

El'endia Starman

If all goes according to plan, yes!

Geobits

17:07

With both rooks off the back row, what stops Qg8?

El'endia Starman

White's king could respond to Be4+ with Kg1.

bwoebi

@PhiNotPi and then after Kh3?

El'endia Starman

@Geobits Constant checking.

bwoebi

at Kh3 the only way to make check is Rxh2

Geobits

Won't the pawn get in the way of that after a couple?

bwoebi

17:08

(because e3 pawn blocking the line)

@Geobits yes

I'm pretty sure after that you have max 5 moves left then

Geobits

Or, better than Qg8 is Rc8

PhiNotPi

yeah Kh3 will put a damper on this plan

El'endia Starman

Oh yup, can confirm, Kh3 ruins it.

I don't think Black can even force a draw by 3-fold repetition.

PhiNotPi

I think Be4 is really our only shot though

El'endia Starman

Even assuming White plays Kg3 and Black gets to skewer the queen and capture it, Rc8 still checkmates.

bwoebi

17:15

even this, yes

MegaTom

28... Be4+
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |bK |  .|   |bR.|   |bR.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   |wQ.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   |wR.|wB |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |   |  .|   |  .|bB |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

El'endia Starman

(Edit and Ctrl+K.)

MegaTom

@El'endiaStarman thank you.

bwoebi

29. Bxe4
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |bK |  .|   |bR.|   |bR.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   |wQ.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   |wR.|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |   |  .|   |  .|wB |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

PhiNotPi

Also I just noticed that the bottom-right board edge has been broken literally this entire time.

El'endia Starman

17:18

29. ... Rd1+
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |bK |  .|   |  .|   |bR.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   |wQ.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   |wR.|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |   |  .|   |  .|wB |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---|
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|   | w.|

@PhiNotPi Hahaha wow, whoops.

bwoebi

@PhiNotPi ah I see now

PhiNotPi

Next person fix that please.

bwoebi

30. Kg2
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |bK |  .|   |  .|   |bR.|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   |wQ.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   |wR.|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |   |  .|   |  .|wB |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   | w.|wK | w.|

@PhiNotPi done

El'endia Starman

It's actually also possible to do 30. ... Rg1+ 31. Kxg1 exf2+ 32. Kf1 Rb8.

Checkmate in two afterward though.

bwoebi

... Rb8 33. Rc8

yeah

PhiNotPi

17:22

thoughts on Rxf2 then Rxb2? (edit: nvm)

bwoebi

I've not seen any variation which needs more than 5 moves until checkmate

El'endia Starman

@bwoebi I thought of that follow-up too. 33. ... <anything> 34. Qxb7#.

That's incredible. Any move Black makes at that point is answered with a checkmate in the exact same way.

@PhiNotPi Darn that queen!

bwoebi

@El'endiaStarman yep :-D

This Bd5 was killing it…

PhiNotPi

We're putting up the best possible fight, though.

Geobits

See now, isn't this better than stomping white into the ground with the black queen earlier :P

bwoebi

17:27

lol

I'm still a bit annoyed at the Watermelon for sacrificing that knight and ruining the game^^^^^

Geobits

shrug It happens

PhiNotPi

unfortunately I must leave now

El'endia Starman

And it's fun to play the losing side sometimes a couple moves after you really put the hurt on them. :P

PhiNotPi

y'all know what to do: get that move counter as high as possible.

bwoebi

@PhiNotPi if black plays some delaying moves, sure…

El'endia Starman

17:31

30 ... Rxf2+
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |bK |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   |wQ.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   |wR.|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |   |  .|   |  .|wB |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   |bR.|wK | w.|

bwoebi

31. Kh3
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |bK |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   |wQ.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   |wR.|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |   |  .|   |  .|wB |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |  .|wK |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   |bR.|   | w.|

El'endia Starman

31. ... Rxh2+
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |bK |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   |wQ.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   |wR.|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |   |  .|   |  .|wB |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |  .|wK |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   |  .|   |bR.|

bwoebi

32. Kxh2
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |bK |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   |wQ.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   |wR.|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |   |  .|   |  .|wB |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   |  .|   |wK.|

PhiNotPi

Rd2?

Geobits

Kh3

bwoebi

17:33

that delays it by one move, yes

El'endia Starman

32. ... Rd2+
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |bK |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   |wQ.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   |wR.|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |   |  .|   |  .|wB |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
2 | w | w.|   |bR.|   |  .|   |wK.|

bwoebi

33. Kh3
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |bK |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   |wQ.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   |wR.|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |   |  .|   |  .|wB |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |  .|wK |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
2 | w | w.|   |bR.|   |  .|   |  .|

El'endia Starman

FOR GLORY!!!

bwoebi

#2

lol

El'endia Starman

33. ... Rh2+
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |bK |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   |wQ.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   |wR.|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |   |  .|   |  .|wB |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |  .|wK |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   |  .|   |bR.|

bwoebi

17:35

34. Kxh2
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |bK |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   |wQ.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   |wR.|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |   |  .|   |  .|wB |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .|   | b.|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
2 | w | w.|   |  .|   |  .|   |wK.|

now you can choose a random move

Geobits

"And here's where my clever plan finally reveals itself"

El'endia Starman

Alright, anyone else want the honor of Black's final move? :P

bwoebi

everything is valid except moving the pawn on b7

Geobits

e2, clearly :P

bwoebi

@Geobits do it!

Geobits

17:36

Aww, I gotta copy paste then :/

34. ... e2
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |bK |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   |wQ.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   |wR.|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |   |  .|   |  .|wB |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
2 | w | w.|   |  .| b |  .|   |wK.|

bwoebi

35. Rc8#
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
8 |bK |  .|wR |  .|   |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
7 | b.| b |  .|   |  .|   |wQ.|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
6 |   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   | b.|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
5 |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
4 |   |  .|   |  .|wB |  .|   |  .|
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
3 |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |  .|   |
  +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
2 | w | w.|   |  .| b |  .|   |wK.|

El'endia Starman

Alright, game over! Good game everyone.

PhiNotPi

Plot twist: we've been playing misère chess this whole time.

Geobits

:D

El'endia Starman

@PhiNotPi Oooh, devious!

bwoebi

17:38

@PhiNotPi This endgame was really a misère :'-D

El'endia Starman

Speaking of which, misere chess sounds really interesting and weird.

Try to get yourself checkmated? That's not even possible with the "don't put yourself in check" rule, is it?

....unless you manage to set it up where you check them and their only response is a checkmate...

bwoebi

@El'endiaStarman being stalemated also wins

anyway, got to go :-)

El'endia Starman

@bwoebi Huh, I suppose so.

Anyone else currently working on the PGN? If not, I'll do it.

El'endia Starman

17:59

> Invalid PGN

NOOOOOO...

Turns out, there were two notational errors, both of them Geobits' fault. :P

Adnan

Hahaha

El'endia Starman

Oh, and that pawn capture that opened up Black's queen to capture definitely won the game for White.

Wow, that was a surprisingly even game for the first half.

Third game lichess analysis: en.lichess.org/gCWxaE3K

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Adnan

This was actually a very interesting game

El'endia Starman

Turns out, Destructable's knight sacrifice really hurt White's chances of winning.

Adnan

Yeah, that was a shame. But mistakes can happen.

Geobits

18:21

@El'endiaStarman I publicly deny any and all charges put forth, until such time that new evidence has come to light.

El'endia Starman

18:35

@Geobits You know what's also public? This: chat.stackexchange.com/messages/32769750/history

And what else? This! chat.stackexchange.com/messages/32780245/history

Though the latter one is forgivable.

PhiNotPi

I'm happy with how our openings have been going.

El'endia Starman

19:00

I think we tend to have stronger, better games when there's more than two people playing/discussing moves.

PhiNotPi

wow, what a surprise

Geobits

@El'endiaStarman Wasn't me

El'endia Starman

Perhaps we should strongly suggest that no pair of people play more than a handful of moves at a time, back-to-back.

@Geobits Well, if you say so, it must be true!

PhiNotPi

any ideas for the fourth game?

El'endia Starman

Openings weren't really ever my thing, so...

PhiNotPi

19:07

We should try something new (although there's no way to force that to happen).

Openings are the easiest part because, no matter what mistakes you make, those are the midgame's problems.

Adnan

Something that I have been experimenting with recently is 1.e4 Nc6

Maybe that's an idea?

PhiNotPi

opening explorer: 365chess.com/opening.php?m=3&n=38&ms=e4.Nc6&ns=3.38

El'endia Starman

This one seems interesting: 365chess.com/…

I'll have to try it sometime.

Adnan

hahaha

PhiNotPi

supposedly 1. f3 is considered the worst opening move

other sources say 1. Nh3 (ammonia attack)

El'endia Starman

20:17

How to really wreck a newbie and ensure that they will never play chess: teach them these openings. :P

PhiNotPi

21:41

@El'endiaStarman One thing I've always wanted to do (but aren't good enough to do) is to absolutely master a rare opening, and use it to surprise everyone I play with something they have no clue how to react to.

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bwoebi

21:54

@El'endiaStarman That's why I was so annoyed about this sacrifice… It ruined the game :-D

PhiNotPi

Do people want to do another standard game next?

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