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12:27 AM
@Dennis Would you be able to install the snappy library? It's libsnappy-dev under apt so I imagine it's libsnappy-dev / -devel under yum.
 
@Οurous Just snappy-devel
 
@Οurous Done.
 
 
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4:05 AM
Thanks
 
 
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8:02 AM
@Dennis: TIO request: The Waterfall Model; recommended interpreter is Ratiofall, Hello World program is here
the Hello World program takes 83902695230873704352754767084011 cycles to run, so an interpreter at least as highly optimizing as Ratiofall is probably necessary to run most programs :-)
(the language was originally created on PPCG – it's the language I implemented in four bytes of Jelly here – but it's taken on something of a life of its own since, because it seems really theoretically interesting and has already been used to prove at least two other languages Turing-complete, and I thought it was worth giving some of the results of it back to PPCG, thus a TIO link seems helpful)
thanks in advance for any time you spend trying to get it to work, and for the result if and when you do :-)
 
 
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3:08 PM
@ais523 ratiofall.tar.gz is an uncompressed tarball.
Would it be difficult to uppercase the W?
 
 
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4:11 PM
@Dennis can you pull Brainbash, pleas?
 
@ConorO'Brien Done.
 
@Dennis Hm, the fix I tried didn't work. I tried another fix, could you pull again? this should have no unprintables in its output
 
@ConorO'Brien Done.
 
@Dennis Can you upgrade coconut?
1.4.0 Ernest Scribbler is out
 
4:27 PM
@Pavel Done.
 
@Dennis thanks!
 
@Dennis Thanks!
 
4:59 PM
@Dennis not that difficult; here's a version with an uppercase W
that huge initializer on the 11th waterclock is basically just a base-converted version of the string to print; the 10th waterclock controls the length, the 14th the base it's stored in, and the rest of it is just a base conversion + output routine
 
@Dennis cs-mono updated, all packages have been upgraded to their latest version.
 
and thanks again for getting things working!
 
@ais523 I'm curious what optimizations ratiofall does, do you have any docs on that?
Also your COPYING file still has placeholders like <year>
@Dennis MSBuild lets you specify namespaces for VB to import implicitely, without an import statement. As you may recall, I've set it up for TIO to use the same defaults as Visual Studio, but I was wondering how you would count bytes if you wanted to include non-default packages in your vbproj. Any thoughts?
 
 
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6:53 PM
@Dennis - I'm working on another implementation of PILOT; it's actually a PowerShell script. If I want this to be TIO-compatible, what constraints do I need to work within, as far as "non-user" parameters, things I should or should not do, and so on?
 
@JeffZeitlin Don't use any external commands, stick to PowerShell builtin cmdlets and .NET calls
Also avoid use aliases like cat, which conflict with Linux commands, and use full names instead.
 
@Pavel That's essentially what I'm doing; but for example the invocation from the PS prompt is 'pspilot.ps1 -pilotscript foo.p'; I want to make sure that this is compatible with the way TIO invokes its various language processors.
 
@JeffZeitlin As you might imagine, 500 different languages don't really have a standard way. You could basically do whatever.
 
@Pavel So the important thing is to simply document it properly for Dennis.
 
Yep
 
7:02 PM
@Pavel OK, cool. :)
 
8:00 PM
@Pavel Not really.
As far as PPCG is concerned, vbproj files are probably like compiler flags, and thus do not count at all.
 
8:25 PM
Nice. Now I'm trying to figure out if C# has a similar mechanism.
In the meantime, can you pull cs-mono?
 
 
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10:47 PM
@Pavel There seems to be an issue.
/usr/lib/mono/msbuild/15.0/bin/Microsoft.Common.CurrentVersion.targets(2130,5): warning MSB3245: Could not resolve this reference. Could not locate the assembly "MathNet.Symbolics". Check to make sure the assembly exists on disk. If this reference is required by your code, you may get compilation errors. [/home/runner/TIO-CS.csproj]
 
11:08 PM
Hmm, it worked for me. Let's see.
 
@Dennis Can you pull Attache?
 
@Dennis Fixed, one of the packages bumped it's minimum target .NET version and the changed it's path. I didn't notice because of caching.
I should run a git clean -fdx before testing
 
11:50 PM
@Pavel Works fine now. Updated.
@ConorO'Brien Done.
 
@Dennis thanks!
 

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