@Dennis Please try again, I think I fixed it

@ConorO'Brien Yeah, it works now. Pulled and synced.

thanks!

alright, Retina docs are done (and only 3.5 times as long as they used to be...) ... now I just need to make up a changelog and we're good to go.

@Dennis it is done \o/ ... can you add #retina1 (with title "Retina") as the latest release: github.com/m-ender/retina/releases ... if that's possible on your end, can you make it pull the latest release from the repo's tags, so that I can just ask you to pull after adding a new tag?

and can you make the language's header point to github.com/m-ender/retina/wiki/The-Language?

the hello world is still the same (but it should no longer print a trailing linefeed). if you don't care about the hello worlds of reclangs to be golfed, you can also use this slightly neater one:

K`Hello, World!

(works regardless of the program's input)

@Dennis how would you feel about adding in pain-flak? I added the core changes so it really is a different language. DJ is fine with me basing it on his language and has given permission

I am going to make sure to only release commits for large updates bundled with bugfixes to keep any workload light

@MartinEnder Where should the "old" Retina point to?

that one wiki revision, one moment

this one: github.com/m-ender/retina/wiki/The-Language/…

@MartinEnder Any idea why api.github.com/repos/m-ender/retina/releases is empty?

hm, caching?

Ah, different kind of release.

I am guessing that was a no for pain-flak

Didn't look at it yet. One thing at a time.

ahh ok

@MartinEnder tio.run/#retina1 Names, IDs, and links are as requested. The first array item of the tags page (chronologically last) is downloaded and extracted with this script.

> the language "retina1" could not be found on the server

caching?

@MartinEnder Related

now it works

thanks a lot!

@MartinEnder Human error. Forgot a step.

shouldiblamehumans.com

More often than not, yes.

@Christopher2EZ4RTZ If it's so closely related to Brain-Flak, wouldn't it make more sense to just write a transpiler?

@Dennis not really

I am going to expand it to include more features

running the code again backwards really changes it up and to keep TCness i may have to add in a bunch more control flow

(read as I am adding in control flow as we speak)

I don't think I understand, but okay.

most people don't understand brain-flak much less pain-flak.

I understand Brain-Flak just fine. :P I don't understand how it could lose TC because the source code is read in reverse order.

one sec

Oh, so the final code will be a palindrome?

yeah

Ah, alright. I thought you just reversed it. Looks like my brain failed to parse concated as concatenated.

I'm going to need a Hello World.

My IDE has not spell check

ok I will try to make a hello world

it is monday?

ohh you are changing ip's

Format?

but i checked TIO

does it matter if it is sub-optimal?

TIO isn't PPCG. It doesn't have to be golfed.

ok thanks

In fact, for practical or slightly less esoteric languages, I prefer idiomatic over golfed.

@Dennis I don't think I can get a hello world tonight, I won't be able to use my computer until thursday but if you are willing to just put a placeholder message for the TIO hello world I should be able to get it written either tomorrow or Wednesday

That's fine, I can wait.

Gotta test the language somehow before adding it.

i have been testing it and it works

run with:

ruby brain_flak.rb <flags> <code or file>

Ugh, that reminds me that I have to fix the input format for Brain-Flak. I don't want to make the same mistake with Pain-Flak.

the normal brain-flak flags work for now and )))((}{( returns 1,1

Going down.

And we're back up.

Well under a minute this time. Nice!

@Dennis Can you pull recursiva? Thank you :)

@Dennis Apparantly DO now offers twice as much RAM as it used to, for the same price. And it has working block storage.

Hm, they also 5 GiB more SSD space, which would provide a short-term solution to this problem.

Their Spaces are also nicely priced, which would allow me to finally implement server-side permalinks.

@officialaimm Done.

Thank you @Dennis

@Okx What happened to Fireball?

@ATaco The latest version of Funky prints a stray Saved compiled tokens... to STDOUT.