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Hi guys.  Dumb question, I'm trying to get a complete row in bold.  Using \bfseries only gets the first cell.  Any idea what am I doing wrong?  This is the code:

\begin{table*}[!t]
\renewcommand{\arraystretch}{1.3}
\caption{The caption}
\label{table_example}
\centering
\begin{tabular}{ccccccccc}
\toprule
Algorithm	& Accuracy & Sensitivity/Recall &	Specificity	& Precision	& $F_1$ & $F_{0.5}$	& $F_2$ & Computation Time (s)\\
\midrule
NeuroDynamics &0.9991	&0.9356	&0.9993	&0.8321	&0.8808	&5	&1.25	&0.1825\\
@MarioS.E. Font commands affect only each cell, so if you're just doing a heading it's simplest to just enclose each in \texfbf{}. There are fancier ways to do this, but they're usually not worth the trouble.
Does anybody now if the KOMA classes use the kernel's \@startsection or do they implement their own version of \@startsection (if so, where can I find the KOMA definition)?
@AlanMunn Yeap, I was kind of hoping there was a "newrowtype" command, but thanks! :)
@MarioS.E. Well this one isn't too complicated:
31
Q: Make first row of table all bold

robintwI'm trying to do something that I thought would be relatively simple but seems to be quite hard. I have a table with a number of columns, and I'd like to make all of the titles appear in bold text. Obviously I can add \textbf to each of them in turn, but it strikes me that there must be a nicer w...

@MarioS.E. The tabu package has such a command, but use tabu with care.
00:39
@GonzaloMedina Where 'with care' = 'not at all' IMO. :)
@GonzaloMedina I don't like tabu. I know it has lots of bugs and the author has promised the package won't be backward compatible
@MarioS.E. Yes, that's what I meant with my final remark.
@AlanMunn hehe!
@GonzaloMedina It's such an aptly named package.
@AlanMunn Yes, it's the only thing that works flawlessly. (I hope the package author won't read this; if s/he does, it was mostly a joke).
@AlanMunn @GonzaloMedina I kind of feel bad about that package... it had so much future... and even the wikibook praises it so much... nevertheless, after reading the thread in google groups I was heavily disappointed with the author
00:42
\usepackage{tabu,karma}
:9717541 alan$ latexdef -c scrartcl \section

\section:
\long macro:->\@startsection {section}{1}{\z@ }{-3.5ex \@plus -1ex \@minus -.2ex}{2.3ex \@plus .2ex}{\ifnum \scr@compatibility >\@nameuse {scr@[email protected]}\relax \setlength {\parfillskip }{\z@ plus 1fil}\fi \raggedsection \normalfont \sectfont \nobreak \size@section }
@MarioS.E. Perhaps a new version will fix the bugs, and perhaps also the documentation will sober up (it is too colorful for my taste).
alan$ latexdef -c scrartcl \section

\section:
\long macro:->\@startsection {section}{1}{\z@ }{-3.5ex \@plus -1ex \@minus -.2ex}{2.3ex \@plus .2ex}{\ifnum \scr@compatibility >\@nameuse {scr@[email protected]}\relax \setlength {\parfillskip }{\z@ plus 1fil}\fi \raggedsection \normalfont \sectfont \nobreak \size@section }

@AlanMunn No machine name? I'm disappointed. :)
@GonzaloMedina ^^^ for your KOMA question
@PauloCereda Edited out by mistake.
00:44
@AlanMunn Oh. :(
@AlanMunn Ah, I need the definition of \@startsection not the one for \section, but you just showed me how can I look it up. Thank you!
Tamandua:~ alan$ latexdef -c scrartcl \@startsection

\@startsection:
macro:#1#2#3#4#5#6->\if@noskipsec \leavevmode \fi \par \@tempskipa #4\relax \@afterindenttrue \ifdim \@tempskipa <\z@ \@tempskipa -\@tempskipa \@afterindentfalse \fi \if@nobreak \everypar {}\else \addpenalty \@secpenalty \addvspace \@tempskipa \fi \@ifstar {\@ssect {#3}{#4}{#5}{#6}}{\@dblarg {\@sect {#1}{#2}{#3}{#4}{#5}{#6}}}
@AlanMunn Hmmm... do I need to install something to use latexdef?
@GonzaloMedina Yes, texdef :) (and a bunch of symbolic links). It's on CTAN.
If Psmith was awake, he could run the queries for you too.
@AlanMunn While I install it can I bother you with the KOMA definitions of \@ssect and \@sect?
@AlanMunn Ah, I didn't know that!
@PauloCereda is Psmith awake?
00:48
Tamandua:~ alan$ latexdef -c scrartcl \@ssect

\@ssect:
macro:#1#2#3#4#5->\@tempskipa #3\relax \ifdim \@tempskipa >\z@ \begingroup #4{\@hangfrom {\hskip #1}\interlinepenalty \@M #5\@@par }\endgroup \else \def \@svsechd {#4{\hskip #1\relax #5}}\fi \@xsect {#3}
@GonzaloMedina I'll wake him up. :)
@AlanMunn yay tamanduá! :)
Get ready for the next one...
Tamandua:~ alan$ latexdef -c scrartcl \@sect

\@sect:
macro:#1#2#3#4#5#6[#7]#8->\ifnum \scr@osectarg =\z@ \@scr@tempswafalse \else \scr@istest #7=\@nil \fi \if@scr@tempswa \setkeys {KOMAarg.section}{tocentry={#8},head={#8},#7}\else \ifcase \scr@osectarg \relax \setkeys {KOMAarg.section}{tocentry={#7},head={#7}}\or \setkeys {KOMAarg.section}{tocentry={#8},head={#7}}\or \setkeys {KOMAarg.section}{tocentry={#7},head={#8}}\or \setkeys {KOMAarg.section}{tocentry={#7},head={#7}}\fi \fi \ifnum #2>\c@secnumdepth \let \@svsec \@empty \else \refstepcounter {#1}\expandafter \@maybeautodot \csname the#
!!/eightball Are you awake?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: only when emacs and vim learn to live in harmony.
@AlanMunn That deserves a "Holy guacamole!"
@GonzaloMedina: ready. :)
¡Ay chihuahua!
00:50
@PauloCereda Thank you!
@GonzaloMedina Speaking of guacamole I had some with dinner tonight.
!!/translate from es to en guacamole
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: guacamole
!!/eightball Should Gonzalo rewrite all the KOMA section code?
@AlanMunn Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: absolutely not.
@PauloCereda I couldn't agree more!
00:51
ooh we have avocados. :)
!!/eightball Will Alan share some of his guacamole?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: very doubtful.
!!/eightball latexdef -c scrartcl \@sect
@GonzaloMedina Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: you may rely on it.
!!/answer What is guacamole?
@PauloCereda eh?
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

Calavo authentic recipe guacamole | amount | 2 tbsp  (tablespoons)
serving size 2 tbsp (28 g)
total calories  40 | fat calories  35
% daily value^* |
  total fat  4 g | 6%
       saturated fat  499 mg | 2%
       trans fat  0 g |
  cholesterol  0 g | 0%
  sodium  125 mg | 5%
  total carbohydrates  2 g | 1%
       dietary fiber   |
       sugar  499 mg |
  protein  1 g | 2%
   vitamin C  6%    |    iron  2%
   vitamin E  2%    |    vitamin B6  4%
*percent daily values are based on a 2000 calorie diet
00:53
@GonzaloMedina LOL That's not quite how it works.
!!/texdef -t latex -c scrartcl \@sect
!!/latexdef -c scrartcl \@sect
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode: Here's the output from texdef:

\@sect:
macro:#1#2#3#4#5#6[#7]#8->\ifnum \scr@osectarg =\z@ \@scr@tempswafalse \else \scr@istest #7=\@nil \fi \if@scr@tempswa \setkeys {KOMAarg.section}{tocentry={#8},head={#8},#7}\else \ifcase \scr@osectarg \relax \setkeys {KOMAarg.section}{tocentry={#7},head={#7}}\or \setkeys {KOMAarg.section}{tocentry={#8},head={#7}}\or \setkeys {KOMAarg.section}{tocentry={#7},head={#8}}\or \setkeys {KOMAarg.section}{tocentry={#7},head={#7}}\fi \fi \ifnum #2>\c@secnumdepth \let \@svsec \@empty \else \refstepcounter {#1}\expandafter 
@AlanMunn So I see! What's the correct incantation?
@AlanMunn Psmith, the TeX bot: I'm deeply sorry, old chap, but the command latexdef does not exist. Did you mean: texdef
00:54
@PauloCereda and @AlanMunn you are faster answering than I am asking!
@GonzaloMedina Ah, I see. Psmith is old school and doesn't recognize all the alternative versions of texdef so you have to specify the format as well.
@GonzaloMedina :)
@AlanMunn I was too lazy to create aliases. :)
@PauloCereda And we all suffer from your laziness. :)
@AlanMunn Surrender to the bacteria. :)
But I'm sure "it builds character" or something.
00:56
@PauloCereda That's a perfectly septic, clinical description of guacamole.
@GonzaloMedina :)
!!/eightball do you like guacamole?
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: never in a million years.
o.O
@PauloCereda This is the most informative-looking but totally uninformative thing I've ever seen, I think.
!!/eightball Did @AlanMunn enjoyed tonight's dinner guacamole?
@GonzaloMedina Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: my sources say no.
@AlanMunn LOL
@GonzaloMedina It's an interesting philosophical/linguistic question as to whether that actually even counts as a description of guacamole.
00:59
!!/answer define guacamole
@PauloCereda I bet you thought Iraq had WMDs too.
Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

guacamole  (English word) | definition
noun | a dip made of mashed avocado mixed with chopped onions and other seasonings
@AlanMunn Weapons of Mass Guacamole. :)
@PauloCereda "and other seasonings" that's where the difference between really great guacamole and regular guacamole lies.
@GonzaloMedina ooh a secret. :)
Psmith is a wise cook by not revealing all the secrets!
01:00
@GonzaloMedina Minimally lime, chilis, tomatoes and cilantro.
Or in my case, maximally. :)
@AlanMunn Shhh....
@AlanMunn Do you get cilantro easily?
@GonzaloMedina Yes, it's in any regular supermarket or grocery store.
@AlanMunn: do you know how cayenne is known in Portuguese? :)
@PauloCereda I only know pimenta. But that's the fresh or pickled kind.
@Alan: in Portuguese, it's called pimenta dedo-de-moça. :)
01:04
@PauloCereda ¿dedo de mujer joven?
@PauloCereda Creepy.
@GonzaloMedina Yep! :)
@AlanMunn :)
@PauloCereda So a Portuguese finds a recipe for tiramisu, and discovers it requires "lady fingers". Much dessert hilarity ensues!
@AlanMunn LOL
@PauloCereda So young women fingers burn your mouth when eaten? I didn't know that. I'll have to try it someday.
01:09
@GonzaloMedina Au contraire, dedo-de-moça is quite mild. :) Heat level 3. :)
@PauloCereda Then I am not interested in eating lady fingers anymore.
@GonzaloMedina :)
@Alan: you know a dessert named pé-de-moleque, right? :)
@PauloCereda Yes. I'm not a big fan.
@AlanMunn I'm not a fan. I prefer paçoca. :)
@Alan: One of my favourite food names is vaca atolada. :)
@PauloCereda I'm not much of a peanut + sweet things fan generally.
@PauloCereda That's a great name. I've never had it.
01:16
@AlanMunn We have lots of typical dishes. Countryside areas have rich culinary. :)
@AlanMunn It's very nice, it's basically costela + mandioca. Very easy to do and yummy. :)
I have to go and cook the dinner. Good night, @PauloCereda and @AlanMunn!
@GonzaloMedina Good night, Gonzalo! :) Have a nice dinner! :)
@GonzaloMedina Good night. Bon appétit.
 
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08:12
Morning all
08:44
@JosephWright Nice talk; especially around minute 25. ;-)
09:00
@egreg :-)
09:11
I hope GUTenberg feel they got their monies worth!
@JosephWright You steal @egreg's code and then accept money for it? Disgrace!
@JosephWright Are you still in Paris?
@egreg No, I was there only overnight. Back at work today
I'm planning to go back in the autumn for a couple of days: was not really enough time to see much.
09:47
@JosephWright Hey, we can meet there during the autumn!
10:07
@egreg may I ask you a question about category theory ?
@egreg oh i solved it :)
@GonzaloMedina Is this question off topic? tex.stackexchange.com/questions/116500/…
@MarcoDaniel I would leave it open, I think that BibTeX is in the scope, and this is about bibtex
10:36
suggestions on how to thicken plotlines within the legend without making the legend border thicker?
@Rico Which package? pst-plot or pgfplots?
@MarcoDaniel nevermind, found it
11:29
One nice thing about Latex is that it is a programming language as well. I did not know this when I started to learn it. I was making a table and having to make a row number by hand each time, and sometimes I skip a number. Later on I found I can make a counter in Latex. I thought this was amazing at the time.
11:43
Any TL13 users here. The following example doesn't work anymore
14
Q: Lualatex: Font table with examples

LouisI wanted to create a table of the fonts on my machine with short examples of each. So I got the function below and tried to modify to print the font in its typeface. (LuaLatex) \documentclass[10pt,a4paper]{article} \usepackage{fontspec} \usepackage{luacode,luaotfload,luatextra} \usepackage[mar...

How can I fix this issue?
Got it:
13
Q: How do I get a list of all available fonts for luaotfload?

dıʞsdoʇluaotfload uses an internal database that gets updated with mkluatexfontdb. So it knows about a lot of fonts installed on my computer. How can I query this database? Something like luatexfontdb --list-fonts-on-my-computer-that-are-in-your-database ?

12:26
The best proof reader in the universe, I already knew that. ;-)
tiny grammar niggle: "catched" in last paragraph should be "caught". (i'll remove comment when you edit.) — barbara beeton 1 min ago
@egreg voted for you again. I must stop these bad habits.
3
@DavidCarlisle Write more answers, so egreg will be inclined to upvote them as well. :)
12:56
@PauloCereda nah, it would just give barbara more reasons to downvote:-)
@DavidCarlisle Oh no! :)
kan
kan
13:15
What is the best way to remove caption text (like Figure 1:) without using caption package?
@kan oh OK why not caption package? in article.cls it is this so just redefine without #1: 1 in the definition
kan
kan
@DavidCarlisle But, I want to have captions! :)
\long\def\@makecaption#1#2{%
  \vskip\abovecaptionskip
  \sbox\@tempboxa{#1: #2}%
  \ifdim \wd\@tempboxa >\hsize
    #1: #2\par
  \else
    \global \@minipagefalse
    \hb@xt@\hsize{\hfil\box\@tempboxa\hfil}%
  \fi
  \vskip\belowcaptionskip}
kan
kan
@DavidCarlisle Cruelty. OK. Packages are fine. I'll go away.
@kan That is a lot less code than included in the package:-)
kan
kan
13:29
There must be simple interface to this. :(
@kan No, there isn't: that's why the caption package exists to give captions an interface, the interface defined in latex2e itself stops at \@makecaption each class is just responsible for defining that in any way it wants to typeset captions.
kan
kan
Oh, I see. That makes sense.
 
1 hour later…
14:45
We need more noise here.
@PauloCereda AFDGAKDFADFMAFASD<F DFS TGWA
@JosephWright oooh! :)
Gaussian noise. :)
hello all
this question would be off-topic on latex.SE (I think), but given that I think a proper answer would involve LaTeX, I thought I'd post it here, for some LaTeX gurus to have a look at...
Hi,
@evilsoup Are there any reasons why do you use chapter instead of section?
@Marco I have basically no knowledge of LaTeX
14:57
@JosephWright You got a star for garbage ...
so I use that because it's the first thing I've found WRT pandoc's creation of PDFs
@MarcoDaniel :-)
(the actual documents I'm working on are essentially novels)
15:17
@evilsoup As far as I understand you need a predefined LaTeX-template which provides your requests.
A camel is approaching.
Another camel is approaching.
A third camel is approaching.
A fourth camel is approaching.
kan
kan
@PauloCereda Indeed, they are! :)
@MarcoDaniel What's an 'a' and an 'r' among friends... :) (Fixed, though.)
@PauloCereda But it's not in Russian. :(
@AlanMunn Oh my bad!
СТОИТ ПУСТЫНЯ
ОДИН, ОДИН ВЕРБΠГОД ИДЁТ
ДРУТОЙ, ДРУТОЙ ВЕРБΠГОД ИДЁТ
ТРЕТИЙ, ТРЕТИЙ, ТРЕТИЙ ВЕРБΠГОД ИДЁТ
ЦЕТВЁРТЫЙ, ЦЕТВЁРТЬІЙ ВЕРБΠГОД ИДЁТ
ПЬІТЫЙ, ШЕСТОЙ, СЕДЬМОЙ, ВОСЬМОЙ, ДЕВЯТЫЙ, ДЕСЯТЫЙ ВЕРБΠГОД ИДЁТ
ЩЕΠЫЙ КАРАВАН ВЕРБΠГОДОВ ИДЁТ
ОДИН, ОДИН ВЕРБΠГОД ЧШЁΠ
ДРУТОЙ, ДРУТОЙ ВЕРБΠГОД ЧШЁΠ
ТРЕТИЙ, ТРЕТИЙ, ТРЕТИЙ ВЕРБΠГОД ЧШЁΠ
ЦЕТВЁРТЫЙ, ЦЕТВЁРТЬІЙ, ВЕРБΠГОД ЧШЁΠ
ПЬІТЫЙ, ШЕСТОЙ, СЕДЬМОЙ, ВОСЬМОЙ, ДЕВЯТЫЙ, ДЕСЯТЫЙ ВЕРБΠГОД ЧШЁΠ
ЩЕАЫЙ КАРАВАН ВЕРБΠГОДОВ ЧШЁΠ
ОДИН, ОДИН ВЕРБΠГОД ОТСТАЁТ
ОДИН, ОДИН ВЕРБΠГОД ОТСТАΠ
@AlanMunn: Done. :)
15:33
@PauloCereda Oh my. You should see what Google Translate turns this into in English.
kan
kan
Does someone know a GOOD implementation of Pacman for ubuntu?
@AlanMunn LOL
I think I am doing something silly, may be I can check first here? I am using tabularx like this: I put tabular inside tabularX, but the resulting tabular flows outside the tabularx even though I said \paperwidth for the parent tabularx ?

\begin{tabularx}{\paperwidth}{XX}
text
&
\begin{tabular}{lll}
lots of text & lots of text & lots of text
\end{tabular}
\end{tabularx}
I can't put tabularx INSIDE tabularx either. gets latex error !
@kan You should definitely go with Not Pacman:
@Marco I think you are correct, yes; if you'd care to claim the bounty, please feel free to expand that into an answer with a little more explanation.
15:41
Is there a trick to put a very wide table inside tabularx ? so that it does not flow outside?
and why one can't put tabularx inside tabularx ? i.e. put a tabularx in one column of a 2 column tabularx
I do not want to use p{width} because I do not want to hardcode numbers in there for sizes. I prefer to let Latex figure it out.
@Nasser I think you have to use p columns (with a specific width) instead of l columns. This is just like any table: an l column will not wrap the text. I'm also not sure why you're using \paperwidth instead of \textwidth. But @DavidCarlisle can obviously give an definitive answer.
When I start using numbers in the Latex for sizes and spaces, I feel like I am using microsoft word. One should not have to do this in Latex.
@AlanMunn I tired \textwidth, same effect exactly. I was trying things. the inner table overflows
kan
kan
@PauloCereda Should I buy or get it off somewhere?
@kan I think it's freely available.
I do not want to use p{numbers} as I said, since I do not want to keep doing trial and error to pick the correct numbers
15:46
@Nasser I understand, but \paperwidth is the wrong value to use anyway.
kan
kan
@PauloCereda Oh, I'll look.
@Nasser Actually, the `tabularx` documentation says you can nest `tabularx` environments:

• tabular and tabular* environments may be nested with no restriction, however if one tabularx environment occurs inside another, then the inner one must be enclosed by { }.
I see. Ok, will try with the extra {}. I missed that. will try now.
@Nasser you can (if you must:-)
@AlanMunn reading the documentation, cheating.
@DavidCarlisle Writing the documention, cheating even more.
15:50
@AlanMunn impossible to do both (hence all the typos:-)
Ack from temperantia (my iPad). :)
OK, It works. BUT the \textwidth for the INNER tabularx is not the \textwidth currently available for the inner table, whatever it happens to be, but it is the original \textwidth. Which means the inner table must say something 0.5\textwidth or 0.4\textwidth while the enclosing tabularx will say 0.9\textwidth, this is for a 2 column table example. but it works with extra {}. thanks
@Nasser I think I may have mentioned it before but \begin{tabularx}{\textwidth}{XX} is kind of pointless as it forces latex to go to a lot of effort to calculate the widths of the columns when the final answer is known in advance. You may say you'd rather let latex do the work but is the need to make trial runs which means that tabularx has the weird restrictions on content and nesting and use of verb etc.
@Holene Congrats on handing in your Masters thesis!
@Nasser \textwidth does not change in latex according to context. You want \linewidth
15:58
What do you think of this edit? tex.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/22008 I would tend to reject it.
But someone else didn't agree. I don't like when fine English gets changed into very subtly less native English.
Apparently I'm talking to you, @DavidCarlisle. :)
@AlanMunn yes twas me, I nearly rejected it then let it go, perhaps that wasn't wise
@AlanMunn Gosh, LaTeX to Latex! /faints
@DavidCarlisle thanks! \linewidth is much better. I did it now combining p{} with |X|. It is nice that tabularx will accept both p{} and X. I used X for the large column which is hard to figure how wide it is. Here is the result
@AlanMunn I suspect I was just happy to see some edit to the content after dozens of examples that only removed thanks:-)
@DavidCarlisle To me the change from 'the' to 'these' is a non-native hyper-correction. The 'the' was perfectly fine as it was, but this use of the definite article isn't obvious to non-natives.
16:02
The first is tabularx{XX} and the second table is {tabularx{p{}p{}X}}
it works !
I will use tabularx from now on. it is a cool package.
@AlanMunn yes :-)
@Nasser I prefer tabulary myself
I do not know tabulary. Will look it up thanks. so many packages, so little time.
@Nasser I only know about the ones I write, the others are all a complete mystery.
kan
kan
@David wrote this thing called longtable which is full of features. You must perhaps see that too, and ask David to fix bugs, if any, at all.
I do not know how you and others can write these packages. I look at the code in them, and have no idea at all what it all means.
kan
kan
16:06
@Nasser TeXbook or Frank's LaTeX companion. :)
@kan Frank didn't write all of that....
@Nasser I have the same problem if I look at German text but apparently some people manage it.
kan
kan
@DavidCarlisle Well, Frank et. al. :)
I think package writing is to Latex is the same way as assembler programming is to a high level language. 2 completely different levels. I think only few can do such low level programming.
16:25
@AlanMunn ?
Where did I do the flaw?
@Nasser I think package writing is the best thing you can do in your situation, when you generate both PDF and HTML from your sources. you can easily provide completely different definitions of your commands for tex4ht then
@Nasser have you tried github.com/michal-h21/make4ht ? it still has some bugs, but it should solve your issue in
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Q: How to send output of htlatex to different folder without fixing all image links afterwords

NasserThe setup is simple. I have a file report.tex which includes an image from a folder. I send the output of htlatex to a separate directory. htlatex copies all images and HTML to that directory. The problem though, now all the links in the HTML are broken, since the links are generated relative to...

16:43
@MarcoDaniel No, that was my response to having called you Mico in the apalike answer. (Marco -> Mico) is just a matter of an 'a' and an 'r' substituted by an 'i'.
@AlanMunn Blame the Levenshtein distance. :)
YAPM? :)
@michal.h21 I have bookmarked it but not yet go the chance to try your build system. What I do now is simply open the editor and do global search/replace on all the links to fix them. It works :) . It only affect one part of my build. but I need to try your build for sure. thank you.
@AlanMunn Ah ;-)
@PauloCereda Yep. But I think true YAPMs have to be restricted to fundamentally useless pop culture references. :)
@AlanMunn Oh. :)
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A: Is there a (La)TeX distribution running on iPad?

VV TexpadTexpad currently delivers the most complete LaTeX system on iOS. Its LaTeX Bundle Manager effectively puts the whole of Texlive in your hands, but not in a monolithic block that takes up your expensive iOS storage space unnecessarily. See more here: http://support.texpadapp.com/kb/typesetting-ios...

There are two answers from the same user in this thread. Maybe merging them into one?
17:00
@PauloCereda Agreed. The two iOS versions of TeX are changing quite quickly so updating their various answers is a reasonable thing to do, but it should be updating and not new answers.
17:19
@AlanMunn In fact using "the" is identical with the correct German usage "In MatLab wäre es möglich, die beiden Zeichenketten aneinanderzuhängen...", so it might look like a false friend to a German ;-)
@StephanLehmke Yes, that's what I meant by a hyper-correction. Something that is thought to be wrong but isn't is corrected to something else (sometimes even more wrong) although in this case, mainly just not required.
17:36
@AlanMunn Rico is a German guy ;-)
@MarcoDaniel So do you get taught in English class that you should use demonstrative articles in places where German uses just the definite article? (There may be such cases, although I'm not aware of them.)
@AlanMunn Normally yes.
@MarcoDaniel That's interesting. Can you think of any specific examples that are used to exemplify this?
I wonder if the actual issue is in the other direction: there are places where English can use the demonstrative, and German can't. This could lead to over use of the demonstrative in English for German speakers.
@AlanMunn Actually I think in this case the usage of and differentiation between both variants is completely identical between German and English, but we are taught to mistrust such cases ;-)
@StephanLehmke Yes, in the case in question, that's absolutely true. But there are real subtleties in the use of these kinds of things. For example, English can use a definite in many contexts where Portuguese requires a demonstrative. But I've always had the impression that German and English were pretty similar in this respect.
17:46
@AlanMunn That's what I meant. But somehow a German will start feeling uneasy when English usage is too similar to German usage, suspecting false friends...
So when there are two possible ways of formulating something in English, one would intuitively choose the one which is less similar with the German equivalent.
@StephanLehmke Ah, ok. That sounds about right. :) I was just curious about other examples since @Marco seemed to think that some differences are taught in English classes.
Sorry to be obsessing about this, but I've done a lot of research on definiteness and how children learn it, so having more data is always interesting to me.
@AlanMunn At least I can't give any specific examples on this issue. But my knowledge of English stems mostly from reading English literature, so it's easier for me to distinguish correct from wrong usage than to synthesize actual examples.
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Q: puting circle into rectangular triangle

AdamI need help in puting circle into rectangular triangle on the left-down corner Here is my work: beginfig(1) pair A,B,C,D,E,F,O,G,H,I,J,AA, BB, CC, HB, HF, DD, EE,FF,h; O=origin; A=(-1cm,0); B=(4cm,0); C=(-1cm,-1cm); D=(2.5cm,5cm); E=(4cm,-1cm); ...

Is this like squaring the circle?
Or perhaps it's another bad translation: is 'rectangular' supposed to be 'right'?
Now my kids are taking English in school and start pestering me with questions about grammar :-( What's past perfect progressve again???
@StephanLehmke Your reply: "If you had been paying attention, you would know that". :)
17:57
@AlanMunn LOL. You just want to make my kids hate me and turn punks as a form of rebellion ;-)
@StephanLehmke The scary part about helping your kids in school is when you tell them things that are right but the teachers think are wrong. Trouble quickly ensues.
@AlanMunn Well I was in school myself. This relativizes my care about what teachers think is right. Of course it's important to cooperate in school, but in the end I care more that my kids know the facts than get perfect grades. I know too many grownups who are full of delusions based on things they think they learned in school.
@AlanMunn Yep, I think so.
@StephanLehmke Fixed.
@AlanMunn Also, I have no real good way of distinguishing whether the teacher told something wrong or my kid got it wrong. So the easiest fallback is to stick to objective truths. Fortunately, these times it's easy to find independent sources ;-)
Have to go home now, bye.
@StephanLehmke Bye.
18:25
Popcorn, anyone? :)
Hi guys
@AlanMunn I learned English as third language some years ago. Since I have been registered here at TeX.SX I started to watch some movies or sitcoms in English. And it's very difficult to learn English without chatting.
@PauloCereda: Do you know this: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/83715/…
18:41
@MarcoDaniel I'll take a look. I usually have a bash instance in one of the buffers. :)
And no vim-latex plugin. :)
@PauloCereda I am working with Textmate and TeXWorks. It's just a try.
19:12
is there an emacs mode for .sty formatting that the community prefers? my LaTeX mode doesn't seem to do formatting the way that I see things formatted here
@Luke Beware of mentioning emacs. :)
@PauloCereda um, ok
@PauloCereda is this vi land?
@Luke It's actually a no man's land. :)
@DavidCarlisle = emacs pope of TeX.sx :)
@PauloCereda I wish I knew what that meant
@Luke You'll get used to it soon enough if you hang out here for any amount of time. There's a simmering editor war joke that goes on here mainly between @PauloCereda and @DavidCarlisle, although the rest of us like to poke the beasts every so often. But it's all in fun.
19:28
Apr 12 at 16:40, by David Carlisle
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Apr 12 at 16:37, by Paulo Cereda
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Some of us have never had the agony pleasure of using vi, and others have never known a world outside of emacs. And then there's the rest of us who use other editors entirely.
@AlanMunn :) @JosephWright uses pico. :)
Or nano, I can't remember. :)
I only ever put in the effort to learn emacs.
too old to change now
19:49
@Luke there is no other editor is there?
@DavidCarlisle I thought not, but I've encountered pushback before...
So guys, here is the deal: I'm defending my PhD workplan on friday. Since I know many of you are professors, do you have any special recommendations?
@MarioS.E. You're in Porto? These kinds of things vary a lot from place to place. What area of research?
@AlanMunn Yeap, University of Porto (FEUP)... Biomedical engineering
@DavidCarlisle is there a latex mode that deals with {} indentation better than whatever I get as builtin LaTeX?
19:56
I have a feeling @DavidCarlisle has something wise to say about it...
@MarioS.E. And how much advising do you get from your supervisor? In the US we generally don't let people get to that stage until we're sure everything will go well.
@AlanMunn I haven't received any complain, yet... but I still have to polish some of the document. Do you have any special ideas for the presentation? Maybe some "dos" and "don'ts"
@Luke ive used auctex (rather than the default latex mode) since there was an auctex, not sure what you want it to do (but I hardly written any tex this century, I'm more an XMl person)
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