TeX, LaTeX and Friends - 2013-03-11 (page 2 of 2)

Its updating I think... tlmgr: package repository http://ctan.unsw.edu.au/systems/texlive/tlnet
tlmgr: saving backups to /usr/local/texlive/2012/tlpkg/backups
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Restarting tlmgr to complete update ...
tlmgr: package repository http://ctan.unsw.edu.au/systems/texlive/tlnet
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texenthusiast

@BrentonHorne you are on right track

@BrentonHorne remember to use sudo /opt/texbin/tlmgr update -all -self

for updating in future

Brenton Horne

shall do, thanks

texenthusiast

8:42 AM

if you use xelatex lualatex you need to cop the font config

later

we can do this later

@BrentonHorne i will sleep now. final ones are

sudo cp $(kpsewhich -var-value TEXMFSYSVAR)/fonts/conf/texlive-fontconfig.conf /etc/fonts/conf.d/09-texlive.conf

later sudo fc-cache -fsv

@BrentonHorne all things are available in the tug.org/TUGboat/tb32-1/tb100gregorio.pdf

see it when you are interested

@BrentonHorne Bye then

Brenton Horne

Goodbye

Ulrike Fischer

9:55 AM

@JosephWright I edited the answer in 3 places. I'm not quite sure what the "TeX directives" actually should do, but as Winedt is highly configurable and has advanced macro capabilities I don't have much doubts that it can't be done.

Garbage Collector

10:52 AM

I have no idea why DEK is on the left of an elephant. Please invoke from your terminal: texdoc pst-pdf-example and enjoy.

Stefan Kottwitz

11:22 AM

@GarbageCollector Now you know what the E. in Donald E. Knuth means

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Paulo Cereda

12:01 PM

paulo@alexandria ~$ fortune
I have a simple rule in life: If I don't understand something, it must be bad.

	- Linus Torvalds

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Garbage Collector

12:17 PM

@StefanKottwitz Very nice name. Thank you!

Garbage Collector

12:38 PM

@PauloCereda The "duck" tag will have a new friend, "elephant" tag.

Paulo Cereda

@GarbageCollector haha good one.

tohecz

@GarbageCollector tag synonyms: elephant -> donald-e-knuth

Garbage Collector

@tohecz :-)

gekkostate

1:04 PM

hey guys, what's the best way to get pictures ready for LaTeX? Would you suggest that I use photoshop?

Garbage Collector

1:17 PM

@gekkostate A simple pocket camera can help as well.

Nicola Talbot

@gekkostate gimp is a free alternative.

One of these days I'll get the brackets the right way round first time when trying to type in a link.

gekkostate

@GarbageCollector @NicolaTalbot Okay, so use those software to make the correct specifications and then I can import into LaTeX7

Just out of curiosity, are guys LaTeX professionals?

Nicola Talbot

@gekkostate Once you've finished doing your image manipulations you just need to remember to export to a file format that LaTeX can read. For example, if you are using pdflatex, then export to png or jpg.

Garbage Collector

@gekkostate ImageMagick can be used to convert from one format to another one. And \includegraphics's viewport or trim option can be used for trimming.

gekkostate

@NicolaTalbot and @GarbageCollector Okay thanks. I tried with .gif and it didn't work but now I understand why.

Garbage Collector

1:23 PM

@gekkostate GIF will be supported in the future (maybe). :-)

Nicola Talbot

@gekkostate There are TeX consultants listed on the TUG website.

Or did you mean here on chat?

Joseph Wright

@UlrikeFischer Thanks. The directives business is using a 'magic' lien to pick up the appropriate engine from the source file (so you can auto-select say XeLaTeX for one file even if you usually use pdfLaTeX). As you say, WinEdt can probably do this.

gekkostate

@NicolaTalbot I mean here on chat.

tohecz

@gekkostate What do you mean by "professionals"? People knowing fucking lots about it, or people who get paid for it? AFAIK, there're both ;)

gekkostate

@tohecz I mean people who get paid for it

tohecz

1:37 PM

@GarbageCollector No. Never. GIF is evil. Use PNG.

gekkostate

@tohecz like it's their work to use LaTeX but what line of work requires LaTeX as their primary tool?

Garbage Collector

@tohecz Why is GIF evil?

Nicola Talbot

@gekkostate Publishing :-)

tohecz

@gekkostate yes, there are people who earn money by working LaTeX, I'm one of them. And there seem to be people who offer their LaTeX services for money, too, but I'm not 100% sure about their quality.

gekkostate

@tohecz wow, that's pretty cool. Before LaTeX, how did they typeset books?

Nicola Talbot

1:41 PM

@tohecz I have a feeling that @UlrikeFischer does some TeX consultancy and I'm 100% sure that's high quality. I don't know about the other consultants.

tohecz

@gekkostate There are many tools for it. Remember that until ~1980s, all quality books were typeset mechanically. But I cannot confirm that, I'm too young for it ;) And I'm not doing books

gekkostate

@tohecz You aren't doing books? What do you typeset then? Journals? Articles?

tohecz

@NicolaTalbot I don't know about many here, I don't want to name, I do know there are some bad ones. I didn't know about @Ulrike. There's Raphael who does a pretty good job. There's Stephan who develops something very cool over the TeX core, etc. but I'm not sure qhat exactly they do

@gekkostate I do one scientific journal.

Nicola Talbot

@gekkostate The reason why DEK wrote TeX in the first place was because he wanted to typeset his mathematics books and the typesetting at the time wasn't up to his high standards.

tohecz

@NicolaTalbot Yeah, this. Using typewriter or T-602 and then planography, that is far from "quality".

gekkostate

1:44 PM

@NicolaTalbot Oh, I wasn't aware of that. I'm glad I came across LaTeX because I was going to publish my book without doing it in LaTeX, just write in the .docx template and convert to .pdf but now I get to make book look professional :D

Garbage Collector

I wonder whether the presence of TeX.SX will make the TeX consultants' jobs significantly reduced and make them upset. :-)

gekkostate

@GarbageCollector I don't think so because there is stackoverflow where tens of thousands of programmers, most of them professional, ask questions about their line of work. I think it just makes life easier when you have a community to help you

Garbage Collector

@gekkostate hmmm....

topskip

@gekkostate I used to get paid for doing LaTeX jobs (latex jobs?)

gekkostate

2:00 PM

@topskip do you a variety of things or just a specific things like articles and reports?

topskip

@gekkostate Currently I am doing product catalogs and such with my own special software, but I used to help people doing tex->html, custom document classes, font installation and regular LaTeX help (why does xxx happen?)

... my last customer asked for grid typesetting for example

Garbage Collector

@topskip Is giving a TeX service your main job?

topskip

@GarbageCollector no, not anymore. I don't accept any new customers (unless they give me so much money that I might change my mind :)

Garbage Collector

@topskip If you don't mind to disclose, how much is the highest cost you and other professional TeX consultants usually offer? :-)

topskip

@GarbageCollector I used to charge 70€ / hour

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Garbage Collector

2:10 PM

@topskip Oh my ghost. Very exciting job. :D Thank you!

tohecz

2:26 PM

@topskip This when you're a consultant. I, doing a large project, get paid much less for an hour :-(

topskip

@tohecz sure. My job was mostly that I get a call from a customer "I need to do this and that" and I work. Sometimes 10 minutes, sometimes 2.5 hours.

David Carlisle

nice typographical joke in current xkcd:-)

Assume r' refers to the radius of Earth Prime, and r'' means radius in inches.

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Garbage Collector

2:42 PM

tohecz

IMHO, \footnote should cause an error inside a displaymath environment

Garbage Collector

3:26 PM

Why can the \ldots work in text mode while \cdots cannot?

David Carlisle

@GarbageCollector Because it's defined that way.

\DeclareRobustCommand{\dots}{%
   \ifmmode\mathellipsis\else\textellipsis\fi}
\let\ldots\dots

Garbage Collector

@DavidCarlisle What is the underlying idea behind the definition? :-)

tohecz

@DavidCarlisle So it'll call \textellipsis at the beginning of an array cell, or I misunderstand some problem with \ifmmode?

!!/texdef -t latex ensuremath

David Carlisle

@GarbageCollector there are two definitions \mathellipsis and \textellipsis and \ldots just uses an if math mode tests and uses one or the other. (similar to, but older than, \ensuremath) only a very few common commands are defined this way and cdots in text is (perceived as being0 uncommon

@tohecz No robust commands are safe to use at start of table cells (that's one of the reasons for making it robust)

tohecz

@DavidCarlisle oh ok, it's robust, I get it now ;)

David Carlisle

3:30 PM

:8462467 \DeclareRobustCommand{\ensuremath}{%
  \ifmmode
    \expandafter\@firstofone
  \else
    \expandafter\@ensuredmath
  \fi}

tohecz

You gotta love \@firstofone ;) (many people who know many programming languages don't understand the purpose of this command)

Joseph Wright

5:04 PM

@DavidCarlisle Of course, with e-TeX life gets easier :-)

Hendrik Vogt

Can someone help me out how best to proceed from this attempt to contact Herbert? "There's a mistake in the internet" that I'd really love to have corrected :-) I'm just uncertain how to proceed.

Joseph Wright

@HendrikVogt You know that the 'old' DANTE FAQ are deprecated in favour of texfragen.de?

Hendrik Vogt

@JosephWright No, I didn't - thanks for letting me know! (Unfortunately the old mistake will still be around, but I think then I'll just forget about this.)

Joseph Wright

@HendrikVogt Various people here are active in the new FAQ: I believe there was a feeling that the old ones were much too out-of-date and awkward to maintain to continue with

topskip

@HendrikVogt I'll update the question in the "new faq"

Joseph Wright

5:11 PM

@topskip Ah, speak of 'various people' and one appears :-)

Hendrik Vogt

@topskip Terrific, thank you very much!

topskip

@JosephWright there was also the license issue: new faq is cc-by-sa, old one was "cc-by-nc-sa" (non commercial)

Joseph Wright

@topskip I'd missed that: makes sense

topskip

somehow the licence changed to "cc-by-sa" by magic

@JosephWright the cardinality of the set 'various people' is 1

(well, slightly larger than one)

@JosephWright the old faq is hard to edit and ugly - now it's beautiful(*) and easy to edit

(* compared to the old one)

Joseph Wright

@topskip Certainly looks impressive

topskip

5:19 PM

@HendrikVogt can you suggest a different wording? I've copied the text here: texfragen.de/hurenkinder_und_schusterjungen

Marco Daniel

@JosephWright I forgot that you are a member of DANTE ;-)

Joseph Wright

@MarcoDaniel :-)

Marco Daniel

@topskip Really? I wrote a lot for the old one :-(

Joseph Wright

@MarcoDaniel I read enough German to make it worthwhile, but mainly the aim is to put money into the servers DANTE run

@MarcoDaniel New one is I'd agree much more accessible for both reader and author

topskip

@MarcoDaniel well, that is my very own personal opinion - ymmv of course.

Marco Daniel

5:24 PM

@JosephWright I love the benefit of DANTE books. The newest book is written by Herbert (as usual). It's about LuaLaTeX. @topskip: I am waiting for your book ;-)

topskip

@MarcoDaniel There are things in this world you shouldn't wait for :)

Marco Daniel

@topskip LOL

Joseph Wright

@MarcoDaniel Yes, I'd like some of Herbert's books too. Need the money, and for that to be worthwhile probably have to go for the English translations

topskip

@HendrikVogt I think it's ok now at texfragen.de/hurenkinder_und_schusterjungen - correct?

Marco Daniel

@JosephWright Some of the book are translated, I believe presentations with LaTeX. For the German community it's a big profit having cheap books with such a quality in our first language.

gekkostate

5:29 PM

Hey guys, I have a question about ToC. For some reason my ToC is numbered. I am using the article class. I do not want the page numbering to start from the ToC but from the next page. How can I fix that?

Garbage Collector

@HendrikVogt I also often hijack Herbert's last answer but sometimes I got ignored.

Marco Daniel

@gekkostate What is numbered? The title of the TOC or the page. Every page in a document has a logical number.

gekkostate

@MarcoDaniel The page. The ToC page is given the page number 1 and then the next pages are 2, 3, 4 etc.

Marco Daniel

@gekkostate Simple way is:

\thispagestyle{empty}
\tableofcontents
\clearpage
\pagenumbering{arabic}
\section{first section}

Garbage Collector

@HendrikVogt The only effective way to contact Herbert is by joining the PSTricks' mailing list pstricks@tug.org.

gekkostate

5:38 PM

@MarcoDaniel Fantastic! It works, thanks a bunch :D

Hendrik Vogt

6:00 PM

@topskip Thank you, that's a lot better. Two more points: "schuster.sty" seems to be more than obsolete, so maybe one should just remove the reference. And: the "komplett unterdrücken" is not quite true, see my question about the topic. How about "fast komplett unterdrücken"?

topskip

6:13 PM

@HendrikVogt Is there an alternative to schuster.sty?

Hendrik Vogt

@topskip I don't have the slightest idea. My full knowledge comes from this page: de.comp.text.tex.narkive.com/4KdVKEge/…, which also given the full contents of schuster.sty.

topskip

@HendrikVogt I remove the reference. Thanks

Hendrik Vogt

@topskip I thank you for making my internet a better place :-)

Hendrik Vogt

6:30 PM

@JosephWright: Sorry to keep bothering you with this topic ... Half a year ago or so we had a short chat conversation about beamerbasefont.sty and sansmathaccent.sty.

Only now I had a closer look and it appears that the fix you implemented 2012/05/10 was just removed in the version 2012/09/19. Was this on purpose? (You wrote that there was some bm issue, but I think it's a lot better to have the nice fix of 2012/05/10 than nothing.)

topskip

7:14 PM

@HendrikVogt thanks :)) --- removed my comment

Herbert

7:28 PM

@HendrikVogt there are a lot of different ways to contact me :-)

Paulo Cereda

@topskip: did arara make a cameo in Dante's meeting? :)

topskip

@PauloCereda cameo?

Paulo Cereda

@topskip ooh English jewel! 3. A brief appearance of a prominent actor, as in a single scene of a motion picture. Also called cameo role.

Something like special appearance. :)

topskip

I see... actually I was outside of the conference room most of the time, so I don't know. But sometimes I believe that things like 'latexmk' would be news to the DANTE community, so I doubt that even arara was mentioned...

Paulo Cereda

@topskip Oh.

I don't want to be German anymore. :(

topskip

7:41 PM

@PauloCereda we need you!

Paulo Cereda

@topskip awww <3

Herbert

arara was mentioned by Uwe Ziegenhagen

Paulo Cereda

@Herbert ooh how nice! :)

Werner

7:59 PM

@Herbert: Where did you get the definition \def\arraystretch{1.2} to match amsmath's align from?

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Q: Match spacing of align in array environment

To typeset some displayed equations, only the array environment was powerful enough. However, the spacing of the array environment doesn't match the spacing of the align environment. How do I set the spacing of the array environment, such that equals the vertical spacing of the align environmen...

I can only find a reference to that when using cases, which sets an array.

But not in the other align (and friends) environment(s).

user19161

@PauloCereda I still have not tried arara. =)

topskip

@PauloCereda is there an arara pdf documentation on the web?

never mind, found it: ftp.gwdg.de/pub/ctan/support/arara/doc/arara-usermanual.pdf

Joseph Wright

@HendrikVogt This is deliberate

@HendrikVogt The problem is that the fix for accent position breaks bm, at least if you load it automatically. bm is important for semantics, so I can't afford to break this. So appearance has to take a back seat here: I've not been able to track down why there is an issue with bm.

Hendrik Vogt

8:20 PM

@JosephWright OK, now I understand, thank you!

@Herbert And your answers don't come in the channels I expected :-)

Paulo Cereda

@JasperLoy Oh no! :)

@topskip texdoc arara

:)

topskip

$ texdoc arara
Sorry, no documentation found for arara.
If you are unsure about the name, try searching CTAN's TeX catalogue at
ctan.org/search.html#byDescription.

I guess I need to update texlive

It was also missing on texdoc.net

Joseph Wright

All (in particular @lockstep): The Powers That Be have sent out some info on the new situation for merging accounts. This now has to be done by the Community Team, but they have said that moderators can submit merge requests. So I guess flagging so one of us can send in a request is now the best plan.

Paulo Cereda

@topskip I need to blame @StefanKottwitz! He needs to update the online distro as well! :)

paulo@alexandria ~$ texdoc -l arara
 1 /usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-dist/doc/support/arara/arara-usermanual.pdf
 2 /usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-dist/doc/support/arara/README
Please enter the number of the file to view, anything else to skip: ducks!

Hendrik Vogt

8:36 PM

@JosephWright I'll have a look if I understand why there's an issue; I've also contacted Ariel who wrote sansmathaccent.

Herbert

8:48 PM

@Werner Sorry, but I cannot remember

Werner

@Herbert Thanks. I'll see if I can replicate the problems I'm seeing.

If not, I'll post something.

user19161

9:11 PM

@JosephWright Yeah, even deleting an account is so hard!

percusse

@PeterGrill I can't replicate the problem with pgfplots 1.7. Can you also try again?

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Q: PGFplot Axis Labels Detaching From Graph

Update: Oct 11, 2012 With the current version of TeXLive 2012, this problem no longer occurs with the standalone class. However using the article class, this problem still reproducible. The MWEs below have been updated. As Joseph Wright pointed out in the comments, this problems does resolve i...

tikz-pgf graphics pgfplots

Sorry for the ping, I'm just cleaning up the tikz question list as much as I can :)

Joseph Wright

@JasperLoy Can still delete accounts

user19161

@JosephWright Oh I deleted all my accounts except the math one. =)

Joseph Wright

@JasperLoy :-)

percusse

9:26 PM

When will the search start working again? It's impossible to look for duplicates now.

Stefan Kottwitz

@PauloCereda I waited for the AMS updates, now it's running

Garbage Collector

@JasperLoy What is the reason you deleted your accounts other than your account in math.sx?

user19161

@GarbageCollector Well, just don't want to spend so much time online. Deleting helps one focus. =)

user19161

9:42 PM

@garbage Do you use TeXworks?

Garbage Collector

@JasperLoy No. I use TeXnicCenter 2 Beta.

user19161

@GarbageCollector OK, I tried that on Windows, but did not like it.

Garbage Collector

But I actually need a code folding feature.

user19161

It's too messy for me. I like the simplicity of TeXworks.

user19161

Also, I don't really need to click on any symbols. I like to type them all manually.

Garbage Collector

9:45 PM

I defined many output profiles:

And with TeXStudio it is impossible.

user19161

@GarbageCollector My second favourite editor is TeXmaker.

Garbage Collector

@JasperLoy But TeXMaker does not provide us with user defined output profiles.

Qrrbrbirlbel

@PauloCereda Can I define profiles in arara? I want to try that sometimes because I think I may like it.

user19161

@GarbageCollector Well, you can configure TeXworks and TeXmaker to compile in various ways if you know how. =)

Garbage Collector

@JasperLoy We cannot add more output profile.

Just modifying the existing I think.

user19161

9:49 PM

@GarbageCollector You can have a few, yes.

Garbage Collector

@JasperLoy I does not fit my need. :D

user19161

@GarbageCollector Ah well, you can explore on your own...

user19161

You just need to find the right places to add things, and then add the right things. =)

egreg

@Werner amsmath does \openup\jot which basically increases \baselineskip by \jot, default value 3pt.

Werner

@egreg So using \\[\jot] to separate each line is sufficient? Or, modify \arraystretch to match a factor based on \baselineskip.

So, for a 10pt font with a 12pt \baselineskip and \jot @ 3pt, \arraystretch` should be 1.25.

Brent.Longborough

9:58 PM

@egreg : Hi, Enrico. Do you know where I can find the definition (in the \def sense) of `\\`?

egreg

@Werner Yes.

Brent.Longborough

@egreg Sorry for the three attempts, I just can't believe it's three backslashes for that

egreg

@Brent.Longborough It changes meaning several times; it means something in \raggedright, something else in tabular and so on.

Garbage Collector

TeXnicCenter gives us a figure template as follows:

\begin{figure}%
\includegraphics[width=\columnwidth]{filename}%
\caption{}%
\label{}%
\end{figure}

My question is "is % necessary?" (I don't think so).

Werner

@egreg I think you should take some time out of your busy day (whether on a train , in front of the television, or even writing out some proofs in your "beeeg margins"), and write up an answer for that post that is "more precise."

I'll give you some points.

Brent.Longborough

10:01 PM

@egreg Yes, OK; I was think of its definition in plain old text (or at least, in a list)

egreg

@Brent.Longborough In a list it has the normal definition, that is \x@protect \\\protect \\

Which isn't so clear, is it? :)

Brent.Longborough

@egreg That looks recursive to me

egreg

@Brent.Longborough No, it isn't. the last bit has a space in its name. However, if you load xpatch and do \xshowcmd\\ you get this:

> \\ =\long macro:
->\let \reserved@e \relax \let \reserved@f \relax \@ifstar {\let \reserved@e \v
adjust \let \reserved@f \nobreak \@xnewline }\@xnewline .

Which is also what Psmith should output.

!!/texdef -t latex \\

David Carlisle

oops @egreg I think @Herbert is going to beat us this week (and he's perilously close to 100k:-)

egreg

@DavidCarlisle Hmm. And you are ahead of me!

Brent.Longborough

10:05 PM

@egreg I despair of ever understanding this stuff

David Carlisle

@egreg well of course (and for the month:-)

egreg

@DavidCarlisle Did you see that Herbert turned 17? He's coming of age. :)

!!/texdef -t latex \@xnewline

David Carlisle

@egreg I assume that's not strictly accurate?

egreg

@Brent.Longborough Psmith is asleep.

Garbage Collector

@egreg When is his fake birthday exactly?

Brent.Longborough

10:07 PM

@egreg Thank you very much. I think I'm going to write a question.

@egreg Like it says on may tombs in rural England: "Not dead, but sleeping..."

David Carlisle

@egreg but he would say

\def\@xnewline{\@ifnextchar[% ] bracket matching
                  \@newline
                 {\@gnewline\relax}}

egreg

@GarbageCollector I don't know.

Stefan Kottwitz

@PauloCereda I updated texdoc.net

egreg

@Brent.Longborough Blame Leslie, Frank and… Guess who?

Garbage Collector

@egreg OK. I think user with high reputation can have a privilege to see the details. :D Thank you.

Brent.Longborough

10:09 PM

@egreg I honestly don't know how emacs users can do such things...

egreg

@Brent.Longborough Actually, I believe that % ] bracket matching means "Leslie's code".

David Carlisle

@Brent.Longborough spaces in command names are definitely Alan's invention, brilliant idea that.

@egreg yes (at least it means the comment has survived from Lelsie's code) sometimes the code hasn't survived so well:-)

Brent.Longborough

@DavidCarlisle I'm way in over my head here... I think I'll just go ask a question about my problem, which is about 17 levels of abstraction nearer the surface of the TeX ocean.

Or maybe I ought to migrate to ConTeXt

David Carlisle

@Brent.Longborough just do your whole document in tikz and position every character as a separate node. It appears to be the modern way.

Brent.Longborough

@DavidCarlisle That's what listings does, too, isn't it?

egreg

10:15 PM

@Brent.Longborough More or less.

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle e-TeX :-)

David Carlisle

@Brent.Longborough not looked at listings internals, it's more of a fancy verb (ie things positioned by monospace font rather than by coordinate I thought)

Brent.Longborough

@DavidCarlisle I haven't either, but I think it has an option to do things character by character so you can set things in Zapfino Monospaced

David Carlisle

@JosephWright Just because e-tex makes it obsolete doesn't negate the warped brilliance of the lateral thinking that produced the convention:-)

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Oh, certainly

gekkostate

10:17 PM

Hey guys, I have a quick question. I have two minipages within a table, the problem is that the tables don't line up. How can I fix that?

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Take a look at Bruno's stuff in xparse to get run-away arguments to output 'nice' names

David Carlisle

@gekkostate use [t] most likely

gekkostate

@DavidCarlisle I have used \begin{minipage}[t]{80mm}

David Carlisle

@gekkostate in what kind of column p l ??

gekkostate

@DavidCarlisle Shall I post the code?

`\begin{table}
\begin{minipage}[t]{80mm}
\begin{tabular}{ll}
\toprule
\textbf{Oil Barrels} & \textbf{Fruit (Ton)}\\
\midrule
0 & 500 \\
10 & 491.5\\
24 & 480 \\
42 & 465 \\
48 & 460 \\
50 & 458.3 \\
75 & 437.5 \\
100 & 416.6 \\
150 & 375 \\
200 & 333.3 \\
250 & 291.5 \\
300 & 250 \\
400 & 166.6 \\
500 & 83.3 \\
600 & 0
\end{tabular}
%\caption{Shows the PPC values for the production of Oil barrels to Fruits}
\end{minipage}
\begin{minipage}[t]{80mm}
\begin{tabular}{ll}
\toprule
\textbf{Meat (Ton)} & \textbf{Fruit (Ton)}\\

David Carlisle

10:21 PM

well why have you got minipage at all? get rid of them and use \begin{tabular}[t]

gekkostate

@DavidCarlisle I need the tables side by side but if \begin{tabular}[t] works then I will do it

@DavidCarlisle Sorry, I should just replace the \begin{minipage} with \begin{tabular}[t]?

David Carlisle

@gekkostate no just add [t] to the tabular you have already so they top align, otherwise by default they align on their centre

gekkostate

@DavidCarlisle Fantastic! It's working :D

David Carlisle

@gekkostate I've used tabular before.

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gekkostate

@DavidCarlisle Thanks a lot!

Paulo Cereda

10:29 PM

@Qrrbrbirlbel Hm I'm afraid not at the moment. :( But I can add that to my TODO list. :)

@StefanKottwitz Danke! :)

Qrrbrbirlbel

@PauloCereda I'm gonna try it anyhow. :)

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David Carlisle

@Brent.Longborough @egreg was 46 seconds quicker but you should still give the tick to me, he has more than enough points already.

Peter Grill

11:03 PM

@percusse I still see the problem on 2nd run (if edit \todo after first run) with pgfplots 2012/10/26 v1.7. Is there perhaps a newer v1.7?

@DavidCarlisle no wonder you beat me on all those tabular questions. :-)

egreg

@DavidCarlisle I too was thinking to comment about "rings" be hyphenated quite rarely, but this seems only a not so good example: the OP talks about German…

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11:22 PM

why can \includegraphics accept .tikz?

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A: Create standalone pictures

The width and height keys do not work as one expects. I refer to section 4.9 “Scaling Options”, pp. 199ff. of the PGF manual, and pgfplots: how can I scale to text width?. The problem is, that only the axis units are scaled and the labels and descriptions heights/widths are only estimated...

David Carlisle

@egreg yes and I deleted my comment as {} is OK for hypenation

@GarbageCollector It can accept anything if a suitable back end rule is defined. since tikz is just tex a rule would be easy just \input. (I didn't know anyone had added it, butwhy not)

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@DavidCarlisle OK. I will try with PSTricks. :D

Brent.Longborough

@DavidCarlisle ROTFL, but @egreg is used to carrying all that weight of points...

Anyone else think this is a dupe?

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Q: Cited and non-cited references

I'm writing a document which has both a "References" and a "Further Reading" section via bibtex. I'd like to be able to put all cited references in the "references" section (using \bibliography, of course), and put the remainder of the references in my .bib (those which are never cited) in the "F...

bibtex bibliographies

David Carlisle

@GarbageCollector hmph, it doesn't define a back end graphics rule for .tikz it redefines the front end: It's \includegraphics Jim, but not as we know it.

\includegraphics ->\int_zero:N \l__xparse_processor_int \tl_set:Nn \l__xparse_a
rgs_tl {\tikzscale@includegraphics code }\tl_set:Nn \l__xparse_fn_tl {\tikzscal
e@includegraphics  }\__xparse_grab_D:w []{}\__xparse_grab_m_1:w \l__xparse_args
_tl

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@DavidCarlisle Ok. Thank you for informing.

egreg

11:35 PM

@Brent.Longborough Probably it is; I left a comment for the OP, before voting for closing it.

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