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cfr
09:37
@DavidCarlisle I think you are taking revenge on me ...
09:49
I just discovered that the standard hyphenation patterns in TeX do not allow the word traitor to be hyphenated trai-tor. Wtf? Is that really supposed to be the case?
I mean, plenty of traitors have been cut in half throughout history
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10:14
mtxrun --script patterns --hyphenate --language=gb traitor
hyphenator      |
hyphenator      | . t r a i t o r .   . t r a i t o r .
hyphenator      |  0t0r2               0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0
hyphenator      |      2a0i2           0 0 2 0 2 0 0 0
hyphenator      |          0t1o0r0     0 0 2 0 2 1 0 0
hyphenator      | .0t0r2a0i2t1o0r0.   . t r a i t-o r .
hyphenator      |
mtx-patterns    | gb 1 3 : traitor : traitor
mtxrun --script patterns --hyphenate --language=us traitor
hyphenator      |
hyphenator      | . t r a i t o r .   . t r a i t o r .
hyphenator      |  1t0r0a0             1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
hyphenator      |  0t0r0a0i3t0o0r1     1 0 0 0 3 0 0 1
hyphenator      |    0r2a0i0           1 0 2 0 3 0 0 1
hyphenator      |      0a0i2           1 0 2 0 3 0 0 1
hyphenator      |          1t0o0       1 0 2 0 3 0 0 1
hyphenator      | .1t0r2a0i3t0o0r1.   . t r a i-t o r-.
hyphenator      |
mtx-patterns    | us 1 3 : traitor : trai-tor
@Gaussler Blame @DavidCarlisle
Well, “english” means American in TeX, right? When I do the following, I get that traitor has no allowed hyphenation points:
\documentclass[english]{article}

\usepackage{babel}

\begin{document}
Hello World

\showhyphens{traitor}
\end{document}
The same without babel, by the way
 
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11:33
@Gaussler yes, but here they betray the author by refusing to be split breaking your precious margins
 
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12:34
@mickep @barbarabeeton's hyphenex.tex does have trai-tor-ous but not ` trai-tor` @Gaussler
@UlrikeFischer happy new year
@DavidCarlisle ;-). But the binaries are there yet, they still announce texlive 2024
@UlrikeFischer has the pretest been announced? I must have missed that
https://i.sstatic.net/vTQJgq2o.png
Hi, I need to put in multiple images row-wise. Can anyone help?
12:40
@DavidCarlisle on the texlive list.
@Nick you're misusing \label. Take a look at the subfig or subcaption packages (depending on whether you use caption or not)
@UlrikeFischer oh so it is, I am at mum's was driving this morning:-)
@Nick also, remove the blank lines around your minipage environments, those are \pars that start a new line.
Ouch, that fixed the issue. Thanks. LaTeX is not like HTML at all.
@Nick it's much older than html:-) although blank line = par is common in other contexts, eg markdown
12:47
@DavidCarlisle Oh, maybe ConTeXt uses a different pattern?
Most programming languages don't care about blank lines, that's the reason I didn't notice the issue
@Nick tex syntax is optimised for writing text, not for programming
13:05
@Nick Most programming languages are not macro expansion languages.
@DavidCarlisle Perhaps “traitor” cannot be cut in two in American English because traitors aren’t decapitated there anymore. They get pardoned by the President instead
 
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18:10
Yay, jsonparse 1.1.1 now available via MikTeX!
 
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21:16
@mickep I'd consider this a bug in LuaTeX: the missing character is only recognized during shipout!
\tracinglostchars=3
\setbox0=\hbox{\char"4444}
\setbox0=\hbox{\unhbox0}
\box0
\bye
21:30
Teaching evaluation from last semester: Q: What could be improved for this course? A: Being on the first floor instead of the third.
@AlanMunn not from someone in a wheelchair?
@DavidCarlisle No. :) And there is an elevator, although it's tediously slow and small.
@AlanMunn but presumably it means your teaching was perfect and there were no improvements needed for that?
@DavidCarlisle That's certainly my takeaway.
cfr
cfr
21:48
@AlanMunn I no longer get to see my evaluations, which is most annoying. (now they are all electronic.)
@cfr What's the point of them if you don't get to see them? Ours are all electronic too, which mainly means that the response rate is dismal, so they become increasing useless (apart from all the problems that such things have generally).
cfr
cfr
@AlanMunn beats me. it wasn't easy to see them when they were paper. in the end, they got used to me asking for copies, though it took a while. maybe there is some theoretical access I've not found. but they don't seem to think of them as something the person being evaluated has any interest in reading.
22:03
Does anyone here know the rgb value that would best approximate mimeograph purple? I'm getting nowhere with google.
cfr
cfr
@AlanMunn if you think of teaching evaluations as a way for managers to monitor employees, rather than a way to improve teaching, then the people teaching have no business reading the evaluations.
@egreg @mickep interested.
@dedded well there is an image at museumofprinting.org/blog/mimeograph-machines museumofprinting.org/site/assets/files/1173/img_3164.jpg that appears to be using RGB 113 97 215 if I select a bit of the text with a color picker
cfr
cfr
@AlanMunn now they are eliminating entire subjects anyhow: modern langs & translation, music, ancient history, religious studies/theology .... so they will have shiny new buildings they can't afford, but I have no idea who is going to do what inside them ....
@cfr Yes, indeed.
@cfr Yes, I heard about that. How did philosophy get spared in this?
@DavidCarlisle Using this image slightly different values, which isn't surprising since there's a lot of variability even in a single document.
22:23
@DavidCarlisle No teasing for yesterday's matches. But we could tease @cfr
Dec 21, 2017 at 13:13, by Paulo Cereda
@egreg you are mean

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