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Paulo Cereda

04:44

ooh may the Fourth be with you!

@samcarter vvvv

Verily, it doth transpire that a curious happenstance hath come to light: a multitude of the denizens of TeX Live, it seems, doth not possess the mantle of humanity. Such an observation doth prompt a ponderous contemplation of the realms beyond mortal ken, where algorithms and scripts doth roam unfettered by the frailties of flesh. 'Tis a marvel, indeed, to witness the tapestry of technological prowess interwoven with the fabric of human endeavor. Mayhap, in this digital age, we are but witnesses to the grandeur of progress unfurled before our mortal eyes.

^^^ tempted to reply this. :)

@barbarabeeton ooh naughty fruit

@samcarter ooh twitter.com/duckdb/status/1786370093703709042

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Jasper Habicht

07:03

@PauloCereda And though it be not the mantle of humanity they possess, it certainly is the mantle of anatity, quack.

(... the English equivalent of the German word "Entlichkeit" =) )

mickep

07:19

@DavidCarlisle Oh, but picture mode is only for the pros...

Paulo Cereda

08:18

@JasperHabicht ooh <3

Friends, did any of you got arara 7.1.4? It's been on CTAN for 2 days but TL didn't catch it yet...

David Carlisle

08:50

@PauloCereda Karl saving us from disaster?

Ulrike Fischer

@PauloCereda I just see an arara update

David Carlisle

09:05

@UlrikeFischer AF files :(

Ulrike Fischer

@DavidCarlisle :-( one wonder why that doesn't get tested ...

Paulo Cereda

09:26

@DavidCarlisle oh no

@UlrikeFischer ooh

David Carlisle

@UlrikeFischer clearly you don't use Warwick as your texlive mirror

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle ooh: pcmag.com/news/…

Skillmon

@PauloCereda and with you. Always.

Paulo Cereda

09:43

@Skillmon awwwww

Skillmon

@PauloCereda ^^^

Paulo Cereda

@Skillmon ooh

Ulrike Fischer

@DavidCarlisle fau ...

Paulo Cereda

@UlrikeFischer ooh me too

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samcarter

11:24

@PauloCereda Happy may the fourth to you too!

@PauloCereda Brilliant text :)

@PauloCereda ... installing as we speak :)

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David Carlisle

18:21

@UlrikeFischer @JosephWright do we know something in the prop handling has affected chemnum it falls over in a prop_map just before this diff .\prop_map_tokens:Nn #1#2->\exp_last_unbraced:Nnf which used to be \prop_map_tokens:Nn #1#2->\exp_last_unbraced:Nno ?

Ulrike Fischer

@DavidCarlisle I suspected the linked prop code, but didn't trace it yet.

@DavidCarlisle does the document compile with pdftex for you?

David Carlisle

@UlrikeFischer I only have 2023 and 2024 on this machine and it fails in both as my 2023 was updated, but it fails on overleaf so I grabbed a tracingall log from there

@UlrikeFischer no I get the error shown in tl2023 and 2024

Ulrike Fischer

@DavidCarlisle in my normal test document it run away to line 9000 or so, I get the error only if I copy into a smaller document. But it errors also in 2022 so it can't be the prop-link code.

David Carlisle

@UlrikeFischer smaller document? the test document is

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{chemnum}
\begin{document}
    \refcmpd{a}
\end{document}

Ulrike Fischer

18:44

@DavidCarlisle yes but if you have behind \end{document} lots of crap it can change the error message. But I was wrong: it does not error in tl2022, I had there a format which used a newer expl3.

Ulrike Fischer

18:58

@DavidCarlisle chemnum tries to get an item from an non-existing prop. This here compiles:

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{chemnum}
\ExplSyntaxOn
\cs_set:Npn \chemnum_expandable_get_compound_property:nn #1#2
  { \prop_if_exist:cTF
      {g__chemnum_compound_#1_prop}
      {\prop_item:cn {g__chemnum_compound_#1_prop} {#2}}
      {\prop_new:c{g__chemnum_compound_#1_prop}}
  }
\ExplSyntaxOff

\begin{document}
\refcmpd{a}
\end{document}

@JosephWright ^^

David Carlisle

19:14

@UlrikeFischer hmm do we say what prop_item is supposed to do in that case? (presumably its behaviour changed)

Ulrike Fischer

19:26

@DavidCarlisle well it is imho basically this error: github.com/latex3/latex3/issues/1455, but I'm not sure if one can give a better error message with \prop_item if is has to stay expandable?

David Carlisle

@UlrikeFischer looks that way, so ask chemnum to change and add the test?

@UlrikeFischer I guess you should claim your green tick:-)

Ulrike Fischer

20:09

@DavidCarlisle got it ...

David Carlisle

@UlrikeFischer :-)

cis

I read ( https://github.com/fontforge/fontforge/issues/677 ):

"It's not likely that FontForge will ever be an appropriate tool for the design of COLR glyphs. The processes and abstractions involved are just too different."

So: which software do you use to make "color fonts"?

David Carlisle

20:38

@cis note that's specifically about COLR format fonts not about colored fonts in general

Alan Munn

@cis I have no experience with this, but probably commercial products like Fontlab or Glyphs would be the tool of choice.

David Carlisle

@cis you could look at the tools used for noto emoji fonts github.com/googlefonts/noto-emoji/blob/main/requirements.txt

AlMa1r

21:07

@Rmano Concerning “some font thing failed” and misrepresentation by evince and okular, does apparmor prevent access to locally installed fonts in a nonstandard location on the machine where the document is opened? Cf. superuser.com/questions/1830506 .

Joseph Wright

21:30

@DavidCarlisle Well \tl_item:Nn seems to be happy if the tl doesn't exist ...

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Ulrike Fischer

22:32

@JosephWright Nn errors, only cn works. But to quote you from here github.com/latex3/latex3/issues/1455#issuecomment-1945514852 it is not documented that it should work.

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