quack

baa

ooh

@Plergux hi sheep person!

@MoneyOrientedProgrammer I will quote Melvin Sneedly on this one: "I don't get it!" :p

@PauloCereda hi duck person! :D

@Plergux Mark 10:7-8 says that a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh. This trigonometric identity states that \cos^2 (x) + \sin^2 (x) = 1. :)

@PauloCereda \stares blankly

@Plergux spooky and nerd, isn't it? :)

@PauloCereda hahahah! yes. :p

This looks better. :)

I will give a couple of minutes until David says Big breakfast because of two ducks

@UlrikeFischer /poke :)

@PauloCereda in 20 minutes ok?, I'm waiting on someone

@UlrikeFischer oh sure, just poke me... :)

@PauloCereda Heh heh heh...

ok, ignore the above, found the issue

@Federico always when you say "hey, could you come look at this?" it starts working again. :p

@Plergux it's far worse, actually:

@Plergux in this case, it was my brain that needed to start working :D

@PauloCereda LOL

@Federico Oh yes. Know that feeling. :p But maybe some times by just formulating the problem into a question you've dissected it clearly enough for your brain to go "ding" after a little bit of digesting. :p

@Federico If your brain stopped working, you'd be dead. Trying to use it for thinking, however, is mostly a futile endeavour. It's too busy keeping your body going.

@Plergux yep :D

@HaraldHanche-Olsen Exactly. Which is why I use mine mostly for storing puns and bad jokes from British TV programs. :p

For the vim+vimtex users: github.com/lervag/vimtex/releases/tag/v2.0 yay!

@Rmano yay!

with babel, is there any equivalent to \foreignlanguage which is a switching command, not a text command ?

@Maïeul \selectlanguage

no @HaraldHanche-Olsen because \selectlanguage also write in the .toc file, and i do not want that

@HaraldHanche-Olsen

@Maïeul well, that's different. Why is writing in the toc file a problem?

I answer to one user, and I will explain why it is problematic, in some cases

@Maïeul \csname otherlanguage*\endcsname should do the same, or the internal \foreign@language, but it depends a lot what you actually want to switch.

well, that is the problematic I need to deal with my users

Well

that is related to reledpar issues, as usual

github.com/maieul/ledmac/issues/887

explained the problem asked by user, and some of my answer

but the main reason is that user say that too much switiching command in the toc file make a fatal error

I think that is because with 200 pages, with apprxomatibley 35 line by page

we get 30*200*2 = 120 000 line in the toc file only for language switching

@Rmano indeed yay (since I'm currently testrunning on vimtex). I have to admit that I'd like the colours in \ExplSyntaxOn inverted, using Monokai the l3 functions now have a cold blue while variables have a bright pink, I'd prefer the opposite (but only inside the scope of \ExplSyntaxOn and \ExplSyntaxOff). Maybe I'll have to dig a bit through the files to see how I could do this :)

that cause fatal error

@Maïeul yes. Why are you switching languages constantly? The document uses only german, so there should be no need.

@UlrikeFischer I agree that for this user, we should not switch language constntly (that is my point 2)

but as explained, many user use reledpar for two languagues

so in some case, I should, indeed, switch language constantly

@Maïeul yes, but I would say it is a babel bug. It should be easy to store that the language command has already been written and not to do it again. I mean this here writes three lines in the toc:

Indeed, you are right !

So maybe I will do that

1) keeping the issues opened, to improve language detection in reledpar

2) open an issue on babel repository, mentionning you

3) sens a quickfix for the user

@Maïeul sounds good.

however, I think that in some case, reledpar must switch between two real alternate language constntly, but not writing in the auxiliary files . Because we do not need that, as switching is only for hyphenation (but is more complex, because sometime we realy need writing in toc files...)

@Rmano there is a bug in the nested \ExplSyntaxOn declaration. They don't stack, so after \ExplSyntaxOn\ExplSyntaxOn\ExplSyntaxOff the expl3 syntax will be off.

@Rmano also the param regex is wrong, they use #\d\+, but this should be #[#1-9], imho.

@Skillmon :hi texE3func gui=NONE guifg=red for example... (:h vimtex-syntax has a list of syntax groups)

@Skillmon Lervag will be happy to have issues opened on this --- I have a small series of fires to distinguish in the workplace now... I'll try to report that later if you can't

@Rmano no, will do :)

highlight def link texE3Func               texCmd
highlight def link texE3Var                texCmdType
highlight def link texE3Cmd                texCmdType

@Rmano I prefer just doing ^^^

@Skillmon Probably you can blame me for this, see my answer in the issue...

@DavidCarlisle, @UlrikeFischer, @PhelypeOleinik Who wants to answer the L3 question?

@yo' I was helping one of my students on Overleaf yesterday, and we had big problems getting syncing between source and PDF to work at all. Are there known issues? Browser problems? I use FF on a Mac; I don't know what they were using other than it was a PC.

@Rmano I saw it. Maybe then it's better to not fix this. My example isn't really sensible TeX-coding after all, whereas yours is.

@AlanMunn Hi! We had a major outage on Sunday which crippled some Overleaf browser sessions, so it makes sense to try clearing cookies+cache or go Incognito to see whether that helps. Other then that, there're some known issues with spaces in filenames and with some package such as tikz-fadings, todonotes, ... overleaf.com/learn/how-to/SyncTeX_Errors

@yo' None of those cases apply. I'll try clearing cookies though. Thanks.

@AlanMunn ooh cookies

@AlanMunn If it doesn't help, feel free to send the project URL to support@overleaf.com and I'll check.

🇬🇧 this website uses biscuits 🇬🇧

@yo' Ok thanks.

@JosephWright I added something, feel free to edit.

@Rmano youtube.com/watch?v=bTzBiyhZxpA

@PauloCereda fun

@Rmano oh

Meanwhile in Canada: Don't let moose lick your car

@AlanMunn OH MY

@AlanMunn that reminds me of Kona in Hawaii --- they say it's forbidden to swim at less than 3 feet from turtles, but nobody explained that to the turtles...

@Rmano :) Well I guess as with the moose, you can do things to avoid it as much as possible.

@AlanMunn I hope nobody drives so fast that they only see the right hand side of the message static01.nyt.com/images/2020/11/24/world/24moose04/…

@PauloCereda -- My very most favorite cartoon from the New Yorker (I wish I could find it online) is a robed individual carrying a sign saying "It's just going to continue and continue".

@barbarabeeton ooh :)

@samcarter_preparing_for_xmas :) Of course the left hand side just tells you not to rent your moose out.

@DavidCarlisle well I would say the alphabet is quite recognizable too ...

@UlrikeFischer is it?

@AlanMunn ... which a real problem for everybody without their own moose - they need to rent them somewhere :)

@AlanMunn Does a newspaper really require registration?!?!?!

@yo' noscript fixes this

@samcarter_preparing_for_xmas that's just plain stupid. (But interesting to know, thanks!)

@yo' Sorry, I have a paid subscription, so I forget that it's paywalled.

@yo' I don't disagree :)

@AlanMunn no worries. I hate the fact that the page doesn't say it's paywalled, it asks me to register. These two things are utterly different.

@yo' A slow internet connection also works. From home I have time to read most of the article before the subscription page loads :)

@yo' -- If I remember correctly, registration allows you two or three free articles a month.

@barbarabeeton ah, so generous :-)

@barbarabeeton Yes (I am subscribed also, but I used the registration before. I think it's five but I am not sure)

@PauloCereda Macaroons are better than cookies

@AlanMunn -- Some excitement in your neighborhood over the past few days ... The secretary of state has earned his spurs. Good for him! (I know you're just a bemused onlooker.)

@HaraldHanche-Olsen ugh, why is it always almonds? :p

@Plergux -- So you don't like marzipan either.

@barbarabeeton I don't like anything with almonds in it :p

@Plergux your wish is my command

oops I misread your comment:-)

@DavidCarlisle -- hiss, boo.

@DavidCarlisle hahahahahaha!

@DavidCarlisle oh no

@HaraldHanche-Olsen ooh

ooh look at dem mooses

@UlrikeFischer quack?

@PauloCereda ?

@UlrikeFischer Could you help me with notoemoji? :)

@PauloCereda sure

@UlrikeFischer Poke in a minute. :)

@PauloCereda answered

@UlrikeFischer danke :)

@PauloCereda I forgot the rule that the number of ^ must fit the number of digits ;-)

@UlrikeFischer ooh :)

Dammit, I'm so close to figuring out how to define my own sequence of symbols, but now latex is complaining that \cs isn't defined

head desk

@Canageek the fix is probably to define \cs (I add helpfully)

@DavidCarlisle Right, but that is something that is from latex3e I thought

@Canageek it's like the «any» button on your keyboard

@DavidCarlisle I'm straight up copying the " \int_to_alph" definition from interfaces3.pdf

ANd I thought the expl3 package would provide it, so I'm confused and trying to figure out what I need to load to make it work

@Canageek Jokes aside, normally I see \cs used in documentation as a stand in for an arbitrary control sequence. I don't know of any actual uses of it. It's like foo and bar in a way.

@HaraldHanche-Olsen wut. Why would the manual give this as an example then

@Canageek I have no idea. I was looking for it there, and did not find it.

@Canageek are you sure that you are using the right catcode setup? \cs_new:Npn only works if \ExplSyntaxOn has been issued.

@UlrikeFischer I have no idea. I'm just trying to make a series of lanthanides.

@Canageek hm, you don't know about catcodes and I have no idea what lanthanides should be.

@UlrikeFischer and the chemnum manual said it used the \into_to_<> commands, so I searched that out and copied the code. I note it says low level, so if I'm going about this entirely the wrong way, let me know

@UlrikeFischer A series of elements on the periodic table. I want to make a sequence of them I can use like \alpha or \arabic

pastebin.com/b5bnHZQj < What I"m trying to do

@Canageek well as I thought you are missing \ExplSyntaxOn (and \ExplSyntaxOff at the end)..

The end result is I want to do \cmpd{lnwater.la} and get something like 10La. Which means I need each lanthanide to have a number associated with it.

@UlrikeFischer Perfect, I've moved it to a new error message

Wut

@Canageek but don't call your function \int, that is reserved as prefix, use e.g. \cs_new:Npn \canageeek_int_to_lanthanide:n #1

NEW error

@Canageek well you need to change the name in both places.

@UlrikeFischer Thoguht I did that

pastebin.com/72knbuip

\ExplSyntaxOff is in the wrong place. move it after the next command.

@Canageek I don't know chemnum, but the code looks quite sensible.

@UlrikeFischer OK. Glad my copy and pasting code from the manual without understanding it worked >.>

@Canageek sorry I was away from machine, but seems you sorted it out:-)

@DavidCarlisle Yep, and this time I'm asking for help in a question instead of trying to rewrite how these hyperlinks work myself, since my boss want a draft of this chapter in only two weeks....

@Canageek but you should make a minimal example.

@UlrikeFischer Trying to figure out how to do that. Never sure if I should when I literally can't even START the question

Is there a command to generate a page of text, and then let me put code after it?

@Canageek link targets are hard:-)

@Canageek \lipsum, but mainly one need a link.

@UlrikeFischer Found it from tex.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/228/… along with other useful resources

and yeepppp it breaks if I try it outside my MWE, so that isn't a solution

@Canageek something like this should work. Put the code where you want the link

\section{Title} %Link going here, good
\label{sec:one} %I could manually set a target like this
\ExplSyntaxOn
\chemnum_use_compound:n {a}
\chemnum_hyper_target:nn {a}
\ExplSyntaxOff
\begin{figure}[tbh]

@UlrikeFischer Would putting that inside a command work so I don't have big blocks of code littering my document?

@Canageek sure. but the \ExplSyntax stuff must be outside the command definition.

@Canageek you have no command name after the newcommand.

Oh fiddlesticks, I did write that backwards