TeX, LaTeX and Friends

7:09 AM

@samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz I've only been using Latex for a little over a month now but even I can tell that's bizarre. But maybe I shouldn't say anything. I use align to tyepset poetry XD

David Carlisle

@Plergux align not verse ??

@samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz from which we deduce you've never looked at beamer internals?

Plergux

@DavidCarlisle I use verse too, but you can get such nice effects with minimum effort by using align (and matrixes and multiline...). I like messing around with the concept of "purpose" :p

David Carlisle

@Plergux tabular I could understand but align is essentially tabular with every entry in math mode, which doesn't seem so helpful unless you are writing interesting mathematical poetry:-)

Plergux

7:29 AM

@DavidCarlisle No, I've not gotten around to looking at beamer yet. I'm trying to work on my PhD and getting enough distractions from things like tikz and tcolorbox. :p

David Carlisle

@Plergux the beamer comment was to @samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz (and was just me being rude to her, but she can cope:-)

Plergux

@DavidCarlisle Ah, sorry. I got confused XD

David Carlisle

@Plergux beware if you get distracted too much and show up here too often you may get reminded to return to your research, see chat.stackexchange.com/… :-)

@PauloCereda ^^

Plergux

@DavidCarlisle :D I will go make my morning coffee and get right to work, sir!

Joseph Wright

7:45 AM

@UlrikeFischer I think so yes: like you say, it's the same as zref

Ulrike Fischer

@JosephWright yes. I think one need some tests, currently you can't distinguish if you get the default because the label doesn't exists or because it doesn't contain the attribute and that makes it difficult to issue sensible warnings (if one want/can issue warnings).

@JosephWright btw: I corrected an error yesterday (the loop command was wrong).

samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz

8:11 AM

@DavidCarlisle I understood the problem with all these s-user names for pings, but p and s? They are on opposite ends of the keyboard :)

@Plergux You are clearly missing the real fun parts if you don't use beamer :D (totally objective and unbiased opinion)

Plergux

8:34 AM

@samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz I think I'll finish my thesis and that stuff first. Saving the best for last ;p (though that resolution might be too late, I've already located the documentation...)

David Carlisle

9:02 AM

@samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz oi I pinged the right person, not my fault if a random passer-by answers it!

samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz

@DavidCarlisle Oh misunderstood that, sorry for doubting your flawless typing skills!

Joseph Wright

9:18 AM

@UlrikeFischer Certainly can think about it

@UlrikeFischer Thanks

Paulo Cereda

9:56 AM

@DavidCarlisle oh

wtsnjp

11:15 AM

@PauloCereda Boa noite!

Paulo Cereda

@wtsnjp awww <3

@wtsnjp 'ello :)

Anush

2:06 PM

hi @samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz

samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz

@Anush Hi! How are you?

Anush

@samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz still fighting latex/beamer :) How are you doing?

samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz

@Anush The secret trick is not to fight, but let latex/beamer do the work for you :)

Anush

@samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz I just posted a question which can be summarised as "I don't really understand marmot's code"

@samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz :)

samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz

@Anush reading it right now

Anush

2:22 PM

thanks!

@samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz does it make sense?

samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz

2:42 PM

@Anush It made sense once I found hidden text of the question which was not visible because the ``` were missing :)

Anush

oops!

samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz

@Anush :D

tsj

4:16 PM

I seem to remember some figure in the pgfplots manual showing the anchors available on a plot and exactly where they are, but I cannot seem to locate this figure. Perhaps it never existed

Rmano

@tsj "Alignment options", page 369 on my copy, for the anchors of the whole plot

"Axis Description" from page 239 has all the internal anchors and coordinate systems for the axis and labels

;-)

tsj

Alignment option!

Thank you

Rmano

@tsj You're welcome!

Paulo Cereda

4:31 PM

@DavidCarlisle twitter.com/realmilancurcic/status/1316130944848400385

David Carlisle

4:52 PM

@FaheemMitha you didn't like my version from last night?

Faheem Mitha

@DavidCarlisle I'm hoping for alternatives.

David Carlisle

@FaheemMitha why? As I say I could add a version with the braces if you want, it just needs an extra macro helper to remove them.

Faheem Mitha

If there aren't any, I can always delete the question.

@DavidCarlisle Is that the only way to go about it?

David Carlisle

@FaheemMitha well no of course you could use xparse, but it will end up doing the same thing as that's more or less the only way eventually to do it. (either way it's easier to define without the braces than with.

Faheem Mitha

@DavidCarlisle I see.

Ulrike Fischer

5:15 PM

@DavidCarlisle I see you broke old traditional syntax for the \put command.

David Carlisle

5:49 PM

@UlrikeFischer only in horizontal direction, you can't use kern in the vertical:-)

@UlrikeFischer well you and @PhelypeOleinik broke document as a nested environment, so ...

Phelype Oleinik

@DavidCarlisle Though now it doesn't rely on implementation details (so much :)

Ulrike Fischer

@DavidCarlisle it was quite impressing how fast the answers came ...

FakeMod

Hi. I am facing the following error while using minted on TexStudio

David Carlisle

@UlrikeFischer longest part was finding out where the "template" comes from. the sample document quite interesting, \usepackage{epsfig} ... \bf ... you can guess the rest

FakeMod

Package minted Error: Missing Pygments output; \inputminted wasor may be using frozencache with a missing file. \end{minted}

David Carlisle

5:58 PM

@FakeMod pygments didn't run, did you use shell-escape?

FakeMod

I have installed Pygments, and changed the environment variable path to .../Python/Scripts.

@DavidCarlisle Yes, I did.

David Carlisle

@FakeMod the log file should show any error message from pygments

FakeMod

@DavidCarlisle I suppose it probably has something to do with the outputdir...

David Carlisle

@FakeMod output dir is just a mistake, it breaks 10000000s of documents and has no use at all.

Ulrike Fischer

@DavidCarlisle I meant the question on the main site, I saw the question on texlive yesterday too, but when I saw that the log is in a docx I decided that I was to tired for hunting.

David Carlisle

6:01 PM

@UlrikeFischer oh it is asked here?

Ulrike Fischer

@DavidCarlisle no I meant the nesting document in mydoc question.

FakeMod

A snippet of the log file:

! Package minted Error: Missing Pygments output; \inputminted was
probably given a file that does not exist--otherwise, you may need
the outputdir package option, or may be using an incompatible build tool,
or may be using frozencache with a missing file.

See the minted package documentation for explanation.
Type H <return> for immediate help.
...

l.103 \end{minted}

This could be caused by using -output-directory or -aux-directory
without setting minted's outputdir, or by using a build tool that

@DavidCarlisle Oh, didn't know that.

David Carlisle

Sep 29 at 17:25, by David Carlisle

@ComFreek people who use an output directory deserve no sympathy:-)

FakeMod

@DavidCarlisle Do I need to run now, run for my life? :P

Phelype Oleinik

@UlrikeFischer Did he asked on the TL list? I missed that

Ulrike Fischer

6:05 PM

@PhelypeOleinik no we are speaking about two unrelated questions

David Carlisle

@FakeMod It's just so frustrating that it comes up week after week after week with different breakage. For the minor cosmetic difference of writing the aux file and pdf to different directories, you have to configure everything else to find the moved files, pygments. bibtex, biber, makeindex, epstopdf, ...

Phelype Oleinik

@UlrikeFischer Ah. I mixed the messages up

David Carlisle

@PhelypeOleinik shocking, conversation here is normally so structured and well organised.

Phelype Oleinik

@DavidCarlisle I know, right! No idea how I managed to not understand :-)

FakeMod

@DavidCarlisle Yeah, I wanted to avoid any extra options, but I was just trying it because nothing else was working out. Using [cache=false] doesn't give any errors, but it also doesn't print the code either. Moreover, it does state The system cannot find the path specified. in the Messages section of TexStudio.

David Carlisle

6:11 PM

@FakeMod no idea about texstudio, does it work if you run pdflatex on the commandline?

FakeMod

@DavidCarlisle Umm... This is the first time I am doing it, so it might take some time. I am sorry for that.

@DavidCarlisle Yay! It worked directly from TexStudio (without using the command line). The problem was that I had created a pygmentize.cmd file, which was necessary if you were using an older version of minted. In the new version, that .cmd file, I thought, wasn't necessary, so I let it be there and ignored it. But just now I thought of deleting it and trying again. Fortunately enough, it worked, without giving any errors at all. Thank you!

David Carlisle

6:27 PM

@FakeMod glad you got it working

FakeMod

7:02 PM

Hi, again! So I am trying to save a plot created using matplotlib in .pgf format (for further use in a LaTeX document). But I am encountering exactly this error. If it had just been a LaTeX document where I would have encountered this error, then it would have been easy to resolve (as pointed out in the answers).

However, since I am only using a Python editor, I don't know what I can change in the Python source code so as to avoid this error.

FWIW, I am using the following code (snippet) in the Python source code:

matplotlib.rcParams.update({
"pgf.texsystem": "pdflatex",
'font.family': 'serif',
'text.usetex': True,
'pgf.rcfonts': False,
})

Rmano

7:35 PM

@FakeMod Can't you just put the \DeclareUnicodeChar in the main document? Anyway, it's strange to have rogue unicode chars in matplotlib (although I used it last time a couple of years ago, so who knows...). Are you sure you have not typed that char somewhere in your labels?

David Carlisle

8:12 PM

@FakeMod you must somewhere have control of the preamble of the document that will include the plot? (and as Rmano says odd that you have a Unicode − not a - in the generated file?

Canageek

9:45 PM

Dumb question that is a pain to google: What is the difference between table and table*?

Ulrike Fischer

in twocolumn mode table* spans two columns.

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