@DavidCarlisle Fortunately, Google Translator correctly translates "I'm done" with "ho finito", because the literal translation "sono fatto" means "I'm high/stoned". However, the contrary is not true: "sono fatto" is translated with "I'm done" :):):)

@Jan Hallo! How are you? Always busy in your social activities?

@DavidCarlisle nice work indeed!

@DavidCarlisle you should have a blue liquidator badge, like the ones at Chernobyl

@CarLaTeX of course it translates it correctly!

@DavidCarlisle From English into Italian but not from Italian into English :)

@CarLaTeX it probably makes perfect english but you don't recognise the idiom, don't worry: just use it more and your english will improve!

@DavidCarlisle :P

@CarLaTeX Imagine, um dia seu inglês poderia ser tão bom quanto meu italiano.

@DavidCarlisle and both your Italian and my English as our Portuguese :)

@CarLaTeX not forgetting Hindi

@DavidCarlisle and Chinese

@egreg Thanks (tex.stackexchange.com/a/374229/101651)! When the massive editing will be over, we should plan an "Answer the Unanswered" session dedicated to the unanswered question of this period :)

bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40230407

@DavidCarlisle Sorry he died, but that explains many things: he was Greek, not Italian, of course!

@DavidCarlisle you can try answer here ^^^

@CarLaTeX Thanks, I deleted it.

@CarLaTeX too late :-)

@StefanKottwitz shame I could have posted some epic tikz clothing designs

@DavidCarlisle You can repost the question, in proper British English

@DavidCarlisle oh using epic and tikz both at once!

@DavidCarlisle ROFL

@StefanKottwitz An Hawaiian pizza bikini LOL

@DavidCarlisle LOL

@CarLaTeX I made the mistake of googling the term ....

@yo' I can't believe it exists! ROFL

@DavidCarlisle Loopspace few posts are done. I'm sorry but today I don't feel well, I don't know whether I'll do any more

@Moriambar Have a rest, don't worry!

@CarLaTeX \DeclareBikiniSizes would be an interesting addition to the LaTeX kernel!

@CarLaTeX I'm currently searching for a way to draw a frame around the page margins -.-

@Moriambar OK thanks, I have a modified query for when you do want to try again

data.stackexchange.com/tex/query/683264/…

@DavidCarlisle edit link? NICE

@Moriambar It adds an edit link so you can go straight to that and just ctrl-a to select the text, disadvantage is you can't easily see if you or SamCarter etc has already done it until the emacs exits immediately with no edits, but once the data dump is updated tomorrow that will be less of an issue

@DavidCarlisle yes, that's great thanks. Unfortunately today I'm not in the best of shapes, and I will also be out -.-

@Moriambar no worries, just tuck into a Hawaiian pizza and get better

@DavidCarlisle oh dear lord. In a week I have to be in London. I have to be in perfect shape to endure 7 hours of National Gallery museum. I cannot afford being sick due to a pineapple pizza

@DavidCarlisle @JosephWright Could you maybe modstar this link, please? (or maybe there's a better one...)

I need around 1 million close votes to clear up the unanswered series -.-

@GustavoMezzetti We should propose it as a feature to the LaTeX 3 group!

@Moriambar Have a look at the showframe package.

@GustavoMezzetti we could have a tutorial on this in the next TUG meeting, as it will be held in Rio de Janeiro. We could go to Copacabana. :)

@CarLaTeX thanks, I already solved that and used it in the answer

@PauloCereda don't they use the tanga at Copacabana? :):):)

@CarLaTeX the what? We ducks are not versed into fashion. :)

@Moriambar put the post here, we'll close them for you :)

@PauloCereda sorry, it's "thong" in English :):):)

@CarLaTeX HOLY COW

@PauloCereda :):):)

@CarLaTeX be careful what you wish for

@Moriambar Worn only by young female TeXers, of course!

@CarLaTeX I was talking about the questions/closing vote. Nevertheless, it's not necessary to be young to be beautiful and able to wear a thong and seem like a greek goddess :)

@DavidCarlisle I think I'm gonna do kiss-my-armpit (if I already haven't done)

@Moriambar Ops, I thought you thought I'd like to see @DavidCarlisle wearing a thong :):):)

@CarLaTeX ^^

@CarLaTeX No, I can pass on that, I'm not interested

@PauloCereda LOL

@CarLaTeX Yes, it’s the NSSSS (New SwimSuit Selection Scheme).

@CarLaTeX Thongs are obtained with \DeclareBikiniSizes{*}{*}{*}{0}{...}… ;-)

@GustavoMezzetti LOL

@GustavoMezzetti We could ask TUGBoat to have a permanent humour section featuring these things. :)

@PauloCereda The Duckboat!

@CarLaTeX oooooh

@CarLaTeX: are you writing it?

@PauloCereda That’s an idea! But consider that in the U.S. they are (rightly) concerned with political correctness: maybe this kind of sexist jokes wouldn’t be appreciated.

@GustavoMezzetti \usepackage[covfefe]{babel} :)

@PauloCereda Sorry, I haven’t got this one… :-)

@PauloCereda I'm trying do to a funny quack guide about TikZ 😆😆😆

@PauloCereda Perhaps we should ping @barbarabeeton about that.

@GustavoMezzetti ooh it's a mysterious word the POTUS tweeted. No one actually knows if it meant something or if it was a typo. :)

@GustavoMezzetti I think we could get most of DPC's lines in here. They are all pure gold. :)

This is my favourite:

@PauloCereda No one including the POTUS, of course!

@GustavoMezzetti Indeed!

@PauloCereda just right for wearing a swimsuit, no doubt

@DavidCarlisle :)

@DavidCarlisle kiss my armpit is off the list

(it took a while to phrase it correctly there)

@GustavoMezzetti -- the u.s. president's typing/spelling is even worse than @DavidCarlisle's.

@Moriambar and jake I think. I note you can see if someone has recently edited from the "edit" link there is a "rev" text field at the top, so iF that says you edited it yesterday, can quickly kill the window and move on

@barbarabeeton it is easy to be worse than perfection

@PauloCereda I'll remember that for the next review I write.

@DavidCarlisle yep I noticed too, and sometimes too late ;)

@Moriambar This version lets you use an id of 0 to get the full list again

data.stackexchange.com/tex/query/683270/…

@DavidCarlisle brilliant

@DavidCarlisle I'll do a bit more tomorrow, I guess

@Moriambar the data will be updated 3am UTC tomorrow morning so should be less "already fixed" hits tomorrow.

@DavidCarlisle Great. I'm wondering about how many will be left

@Moriambar a few thousand :(

@DavidCarlisle just as we did nothing. I really wish I could've done more.

@Moriambar ah finally figured out how to save that under my name:

data.stackexchange.com/tex/query/683271/…

@DavidCarlisle =)

@DavidCarlisle today I'm devoting to reputationless and pointless answers to questions of the days of yore. No more emacs for me :)

@Moriambar have fun:-)

@DavidCarlisle I'm completing a treatise on page dimensions and margins which is so pointless that I should give reputation just for having enjoyed writing it

just a question

what would happen if I changed the papersize in the middle of the document?

@DavidCarlisle Ok, I will

@Moriambar in pdftex/luatex you can change the page size on any page, I think in dvips you can only set it at the start of the document, but I'd need to check. That is, if by papersize you mean \(pdf)pageheight you can change the latex length \papeheight anywhere but mostly that is not used so it doesn't matter what it is set to.

@DavidCarlisle well my answer is going to blow up then :(

@DavidCarlisle Ok thanks. It's getting more and more complicated :)

@Moriambar see the code in the unified graphics driver collection (graphics-def) eg this in pdftex.def

\ifGin@setpagesize
\ifx\paperwidth\@undefined\else
  \AtBeginDocument{%
% If a package has changed \mag, assume it knows what it is doing
% and leave page size alone
\ifnum\mag=\@m
  \@ifundefined{stockwidth}{%
  \@ifundefined{paperwidth}{%
  }{%
    \ifdim\paperwidth>0pt\relax
      \ifdim\paperheight>0pt\relax
        \pdfpagewidth=\paperwidth
        \pdfpageheight=\paperheight
      \fi
    \fi
  }%
}{%
  \ifdim\stockwidth>0pt\relax
    \ifdim\stockheight>0pt\relax
      \pdfpagewidth=\stockwidth

@DavidCarlisle ehr, ok, it's set at the begin of the document then?

@Moriambar it's set there but you can (in pdftex) set it again later with care, so you can have an A4 document with one page being an A3 insert then back to A4, but that's designed for a digital era, the page size in dvips was more designed around selecting the correct paper tray in a printer....

@DavidCarlisle yes, but you have to set pdfpagewidth not paperwidth, the latter being what geometry sets

@Moriambar yes pdfpagewidth is the pdftex primitive that controls the media size in the generated pdf, paperwidth is just a \newlength defined by latex so setting it does nothing unless you then use the value to set pdfpagewidth or some equivalent \special

@DavidCarlisle (I'm predating the chat for my answer, with your permission)

@DavidCarlisle ok, I got it

@Moriambar fine:-)

@DavidCarlisle thanks, posted ;)

@DavidCarlisle I hope to have used the right tone regarding the geometry updates :)

@Moriambar I'd suggest losing that last paragraph to be honest.

@DavidCarlisle ok. Done and many many thanks

@Moriambar also more importantly geometry does set \pdfpagewidth etc. the snippet that I showed from pdftex.def is the way it gets set if you load graphics or color but geometry has similar code eg

  \ifx\Gm@driver\Gm@xetex
    \@ifundefined{pdfpagewidth}{}{%
      \setlength\pdfpagewidth{\Gm@pw}%
      \setlength\pdfpageheight{\Gm@ph}}%
    \ifnum\mag=\@m\else
      \ifx\Gm@truedimen\Gm@true
        \setlength\paperwidth{\Gm@pw}%
        \setlength\paperheight{\Gm@ph}%
      \fi
    \fi
  \fi

@DavidCarlisle great, so my answer is completely wrong! I'll delete it right away

@Moriambar not completely wrong but could do with a few edits:-)

@DavidCarlisle well to "technically, why geometry does not allow this" I answer with "because it sets the xxx length instead of zzz" but it turns out that it's the other way aorund

@DavidCarlisle All the edits I could do would point towards "there's no technical reason. It's just hardcoded this way"

@DavidCarlisle I gotta go now, I'llbe back in half an hour or so, then I'll try and edit it, or possibly delete it.

@DavidCarlisle you seem to have "backslash" edited this question one hour ago. But in the two examples all the slashes are still wrong.

@UlrikeFischer link? (I've done several hundred so not surprising if something wrong somewhere:-), possibly tab related as detecting the pattern with tabs rather than \ four spaces is trickier

@DavidCarlisle Sorry forgot to copy the link: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/120736/…

@UlrikeFischer grrr tabs as I thought

@UlrikeFischer I was just editing my answer. I think you're right and I was just modifying the text and thus used your remark. Thanks

@UlrikeFischer @Moriambar @barbarabeeton version of the emacs lisp that changes single backslash-tab as well as single-backslash-4-spaces

(defun sx ()
  (interactive)
  (goto-char (point-min))
  (query-replace-regexp "\\([^\\\\]\\)\\\\\\(    \\|\t\\)"
			"\\1\\\\\\\\\n    "
			)
  (kill-region (point-min) (point-max))
  )

@DavidCarlisle Ok I will adapt it to my editor

@DavidCarlisle I'm using a human specific pattern matching method: I look at the code ;-) Not so fast but not easily confused by tabs and numbers of spaces.

@UlrikeFischer I did that originally until I realised there were (at the time) 7500 corrupt posts at which point some automation seemed necessary.

@UlrikeFischer I use a query-replace so I see the edits that are done, but I don't look at the part of the post that isn't edited so missed that there were some tab cases left

Wow, I just answered a question from 2015 from a low rep user, and it has just been accepted. So answering old unanswered questions clearly isn't a waste of time.

@AlanMunn That's why I promote 'Answer the Unanswered': it's not just about closing things

@JosephWright Yes, and I agree. I was mainly surprised that the answer was almost immediately accepted.

no question left behind

:38020091

@UlrikeFischer is en_de a normal kind of locale ?

@DavidCarlisle ??? what is the context?

@DavidCarlisle Just saw it. The locale looks odd -- even if one take into account english kings with german connections ;-)

@DavidCarlisle But beside this: why is luatex using it? I can't reproduce something similar with windows, setting an environment LANG doesn't give such an error.

@UlrikeFischer Lua inherits the locale generally, doesn't it?

@JosephWright it does but stock lua doesn't complain with LANG set that way

    if (old_locale) {
        /* If setlocale fails here, then the state   */
        /* could be compromised, and we exit.        */
        env_locale = setlocale (LC_ALL, "");
	if (!env_locale) {
	  fprintf(stderr,"Unable to read environment locale:exit now.\n");

-60 :( [ :-) ]

@DavidCarlisle User removed?

@JosephWright yes which doesn't really matter except @egreg only seems to have -2 :-)

@JosephWright are we done with graphics?

@DavidCarlisle I guess, thought some publicity might be good: I'll write something for my blog either later this eveinng or tomorrow

@DavidCarlisle Controversial: my reputation hasn't really changed.

Accepted answer is very funny.

@DavidCarlisle I have -60 too. Looks like the user voted good answers ;-)

@JosephWright publicity before or after release? (I think we need pln-graphics, graphics-def and required/graphics all updated?)

@UlrikeFischer that would explain it

@DavidCarlisle I was thinking for before release, but there is the entire question of whether that ever gets anyone to try anything

@JosephWright the number of people who will download the files from github and a matching package source from our svn and unpack and install locally and are not already reading this chat is negligable

@DavidCarlisle Probably true: OK we should just release then

@DavidCarlisle Do we want some form of release notes?

@JosephWright I guess so but where, in graphics-def? top level notes about graphics usually goes in latex news but there's not a latex release in the pipeline. Could just put it in the ctan announce but that's a bit transient.

@JosephWright probably should flag on team list.

@DavidCarlisle That is true

@DavidCarlisle I was thinking for CTAN announcement, yes

@AlanMunn I enjoyed that.

@JosephWright let's just go with that.

@AlanMunn And with a piece of music Cage would be envious of.

@egreg Now I'm listening to Mozart Horn concertos. If only the Vuvuzela had been around in his time. :)

@AlanMunn Who's the horn player?

@egreg Peter Damm. Not my favourite by far. I'm a sucker for Barry Tuckwell and Dennis Brain usually.

@AlanMunn Let me ask my own expert in horn players.

@AlanMunn Good choices those: my friend would appreciate.

@egreg Yes, they're great. But I'm sure there are some younger (and in the case of Brain, not dead) players on the scene too.

@egreg Another real favourite is Hermann Baumann.

@AlanMunn Of course.

@AlanMunn Peter Damm doesn't easily qualify as a younger player.

@egreg No, he's not either.

This is pretty impressive:

@DavidCarlisle @ChristianHupfer I missed the 6,666 moment :( (I was out watching Wonder Woman)