@Johannes_B Ah, I see. Drumming up more business for LC but also begging for more of us to answer.... :) Seems a bit counter-productive. I guess it might have been better to move to a chat instead.
@Johannes_B @AlanMunn On the other hand, the question arises due to a lack of knowledgement and could resolved by reading the appropriate material. So a discussion doesn't add to the "knowledge of the world".
@yo' lol ^^ I have a smartphone, but usually they have processes and stuff going on so the battery doesn't last as long as old phones, not because they're worse, but because they do more stuff
I will still use a smartphone despite the slightly shorter battery life
@yo' The nice thing about Sony smartphones is that they are, apart from Nexus, very close to the default Android implementation, so your device is always updated with the last patches.
@Johannes_B I think that for really clueless users, sending them to yet another place may be a bit overwhelming, so I would prefer to solve the issue in chat, and in the chat explain the potential benefits of LC.
@yo' I remember the old times when people said: I got a new phone, look how small it is. In the end, people were barely able to press the right button. Smartphones came up. A friend of mine had several smartphones over the years and they always got bigger.
@yo I had an Android phone for a while which I liked, but then when I was looking around for a new phone, the only Android phone I liked at the time was so huge I bought an iPhone instead. As a Mac user, the integration is really nice, so I wouldn't go back, in fact.
@yo Yes, I'm a very low-tech person when it comes to apps. I have a few essential ones and that's about it. So I've never seen the need for a wild west OS. :)
@DavidCarlisle Ah, I've worked out what I've got wrong with math classes: for variables, you need to know where they should map (so y turns into 𝑦, for example)
@JosephWright i was wondering how far I can push amsmath fixes, it works for luatex (or will if that fix to \meaning happens) but it's \dots lookahead always assumes it is looking for \mathchardef token not a character so making it not error on \Umathchardef is good but doesn't help much if unicode-math is loaded as that just does \let\times× so everything is an implict character, more or less.
@DavidCarlisle I'm thinking loading the data from MathClass.txt isn't workable for this reason
@DavidCarlisle I'm actually trying to work out what the script=math switch does when loading Unicode fonts (can't see a difference in XeTeX so slightly stuck doing the same for LuaTeX)
@JosephWright oh sure yes but same is true in pdftex (but harder to construct a plausble example as less characters are in "input" encoding position, but it's in the middle of 15 nested \if tests so if I add it I think I want to add if for pdftex as well, which may not be popular everywhere. Of course you could put a guard on the outside and use the original definition in pdftex, we'll see. anyway I hope to get something for @barbarabeeton to discuss tomorrow
@JosephWright never tested but I thought it didn't read the math table data without that?
@JosephWright not sure that's the right test think you need to go in to unicode-math and disable \l__um_ot_math_bool as unicode math is using the font parameters in \everymath based on the params it thinks its using before th eprimitive font definition, I think...
@JosephWright I'd done too much work on this to not have some source control so it's in git cloned from an empty github repo but I'm wondering if I should push, probably not initially even though that means it relies on me not dropping my laptop:(
@yo' Because for some things you actually want them in exactly the place you put them. Most of the time though, I think it's because they think that every graphic should be a figure, and that's the real problem.
@yo' We normally expect schemes (in particular) to follow under text, similar to the way displayed equations are used by mathematicians. This is true in the typeset literature, not just 'DIY' documents
@JosephWright In fact, there's a particular kind of tabular representation used in one subfield which is even called a 'tableau' perhaps just to avoid the confusion. (Of course those of us not in that subfield just think it's pretentious. :) )
@yo' I guess our issue is we have compounds that have numbers in the text which then are only shown in schemes, so if they get too far apart it gets tricky to follow the flow
@JosephWright well, I sense that the border between a figure and a scheme is verry blurry, but it doesn't mean that a plot of a function with a caption is not a figure and need to be "here" :)
@yo' Different colleagues do things differently: just checking over a few of my own papers with different PIs, some of them (like me) stick to 'scheme' only for reactions, some use 'scheme' also for a simple graphic of various compounds, which I'd call a figure or (perhaps) a chart
@JosephWright your "compound" resembles me of huge matrices: these are not tables, but often do not quite fit in an equation, especially in a twocolumn environment, so they can get typeset as floats
Do you have any hints why the page generated by \listofalgorithms is slightly shifted down? I have other floats defined with the newfloat package and their indices are displayed correctly.
Of course, the solution might be insanely obvious, but I miss it. :)
@egreg: last question and I promise to shut up. :) Is there a way to add a little space between the title and the entries? It seems the other ones are a little lower. :)
