@Nasser google always does that (or equally irrelevant things) to me, but how is it to know that I mean LaTeX and not latex? I find that add 'tex' as a search term helps, although I'm not clear why. I guess it searches on whole words and so it makes a kind of sense.
@JosephWright they should allow whatever version we say, the ctan upload form says date or version, why couldn't this one have said 2015/01/01 patch level 1 instead of 2015/07/01 which is going to be confusing?
@JosephWright probably we should take to team list but I think ctan.org/pkg/latex-base should be corrected not to say version: 2015/07/01 as that isn't the version and doesn't appear anywhere in the spftware
@DavidCarlisle Yes: issue is that I had to sort some SQL stuff manually and somehow the post categories got fried. Not sure I can be bothered to fix that!
Here's a possible solution using the features provided by the exam document class and the answers package:
\documentclass{exam}
\usepackage{answers}
\Newassociation{sol}{Solution}{ans}
\newtheorem{ex}{}{}
\renewcommand\questionlabel{}
\renewcommand\questionshook{\leftmargin0pt}
\begin{document...
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159265-2.6-1.40.16 (TeX Live 2015/W32TeX) (preloaded format=pdflatex) restricted \write18 enabled. entering extended mode (./untitled-1.tex LaTeX2e <2015/01/01> patch level 1 Babel <3.9l> and hyphenation patterns for 79 languages loaded. (c:/texlive/2015/texmf-dist/tex/latex/exam/exam.cls Document Class: exam 2015/05/07 Version 2.5 by Philip Hirschhorn (c:/texlive/2015/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/ifthen.sty) (c:/texlive/2015/texmf-dist/tex/latex/base/article.cls Document Class: article 2014/09/29 v1.4h Standard LaTeX document class
We need to somehow get the awareness, that report and maybe book are sufficient for a basic report (bachelor, master, Diplom, Phd, ...); with additional optional packages to ease some special tasks.
@EnthusiasticStudent Delete the aux file and try again.
@JosephWright Course not. He was the first writing a blog post about bad templates tha i personally linked many times. But i have to say, it is much much worse in the german speaking world. LaTeX-Templates.com is predictable. But german users find stuff i sometimes can't believe/.
Autocomplete in a tutorial for beginners. :-( Annoying.
Achja: Es heißt weder »inpu-tenc« noch »font-tenc«! Markus Kohm.
@Johannes_B I was afraid a little, because about five minutes earlier than facing that failure, I updated all my TeXlive packages; and I was afraid I did something wrong in my update process. By the way, thank you so much. You are always kind to me.
@Johannes_B i could go back and re-translate, just noticed that there were one or two words that didn't look very english in the result. Was understandable enough anyway.
@DavidCarlisle Yes, latex was also updated for me during texlive update... Why this error happened? Do other users also face such thing? What part of update causes such error?
@EnthusiasticStudent see the log you post above, just before the error it says (./untitled-1.aux which means it has started to read the aux file and finds an undefined command, but the comand is \pgf... but your document does not load pgf package.
@EnthusiasticStudent it starts <2015/01/01> patch level 1 which went to ctan yesterday and reached texlive this morning
@DavidCarlisle Perhaps not: it's pretty clear in the original
@EnthusiasticStudent It's a patch for that release which fixes a few mistakes on the part of the team
@EnthusiasticStudent We are still working out a release policy in these days of online updates: the kernel used to be altered very rarely but then updates where much harder
@JosephWright Today I saw the answers package for the first time. It is great. And I felt really proud to see your name on the first page of its manual. I really appreciate your activities on latex...
@DavidCarlisle Imho (but I haven't really analyzed it) because you are using two math families. In standard tex italic correction in math is connected to font family switches. to quote Dan Luecking (tug.org/pipermail/tex-live/2011-October/030308.html): "If two adjacent symbols are from the same family and if also \fontdimen2 is not 0, then no italic correction is used, but ligature and kerning information are used."
@DavidCarlisle Neither is Taco, it seems, but that did not actually make much difference
@DavidCarlisle, @ArthurReutenauer I've emailed Trinity to see if I can get a room: I've asked for the airy one but we may yet end up in the dungeon again
% you should never, ever, use the standards out-of-the-box T1 fonts with pdfLaTeX, they look ugly.Always include the "lmodern" or "pslatex" package, that uses much better postscript fonts.
@JosephWright I could ask Murray about this italic correction business, he (and his team) are basically responsible for the opentype math table so should be able to give an authoritative answer on when they expect italic correction to be used.
@JosephWright might mean constructing an example in Word...
@JosephWright yes but making word do anything is a problem for me, I'm not sure yet if I would be trying to make the problem occur in word, or finding it doesn't occur and then asking why not. (I have a phone call with Murray every month, or at least there is a phone call every month and we are both usually on it...
@JosephWright not for the first time, still seems to be resolved amicably. I do wish they could find a way to let authors see the catalogue entries for their own software.
I use Pandoc tables in my incomplete LaTeX documents.
I do computation on those tables with the field separator as pipe.
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@JosephWright he seems to be asking how to edit away the dashes so perl or python it's basically unrelated to latex as far as I can see other than that he wants to generate pandoc input (I think) Off topic, definitely
@JosephWright incomplete LaTeX table -> pandoc table, that will be converted to LaTeX in the end. He wants to do computation on the table, which means loosing the dashed needed for Pandoc to create a table in LaTeX. Off topic.
Almost tempted to say Use excel
Well, this is how i understood the question.
@JosephWright @DavidCarlisle CTAN-ANN says the package is from 2017 ;-)
@JosephWright I saw the related discussion on the pandoc mailing list. It could be that wants to know if some data manipulation/calculations can be done with latex. But imho one would need hours to extract a sensible problem description from him (in between there seem to be also some html involved).
One about expl3, is there any plan of “standardizing” 0pt plus 0pt minus 0pt? I mean, something like \skip:n { 0pt }, \skip:nnn { 0pt } { 0pt } { 0pt } and \skip_plus:nn { 0pt } { 0pt } and \skip_minus:nn { 0pt } { 0pt }?
@JosephWright professional expertise required: do you know what happens if you put an indigestion tablet and vinegar into a film canister with the lid on:-)
@egreg -- yes, i do remember the discussion. but have to go back and check the details. (i don't remember whether the situation of d^2x was covered, for one thing.) what would you like to point out?
@Johannes_B -- i've looked back at a couple of articles in tugboat on thesis classes. while everything i've looked at is clear about "follow the instructions of your university regarding the style", none of them gives a clear pointer to a basic class in the absence of an (approved) document class from your university. i think that's what's missing. and report or book is probably as good a place to start as any. (although i admit my bias against the "national enquirer" style of headings.)
not sure where the best place is to start to issue a "corrective", or at least a counter-argument. might be put on the topic list for discussion in darmstadt.
@barbarabeeton Exactly where mi mind got stuck yesterday, where/how to get this fallback information distributed. You cannot get in touch with every university telling them: If you don't have a template to satisfy your university laylout, tell the people to use the base classes.
@PauloCereda -- oh ... i read that (quickly) as a "quack overview".
@Johannes_B -- complicating matters even more, not every university even recognizes that latex exists, never mind providing for its use. i nearly cried when i saw the question a while ago that asked where someone could get a credit course for latex. that's probably never going to happen; the best one might hope for is a rather informal "tutorial" group meeting at lunch time for some number of successive weeks, one day a week, or maybe something at a community college or extension division.
@DavidCarlisle -- why in the world would you want to do that? (the chemical reaction is much the same as what happens when you put buttermilk and baking soda into a flour mixture so that you end up with something "lighter" than library paste. both are capable of making a big mess.)
@barbarabeeton Our university provides classes and packages for reports, official letters, posters, presentations and lab reports, to apply to the corporate design. We also have a few user meetings each semester, where users can come and have a drink, or ask a question.
And i am not even the maintainer of the classes :-)
@Johannes_B -- the german-speaking world seems to be much more supportive in this regard than the u.s. (for example). just as there are more, and more active, dante members (per capita) than tug members in the u.s. i have my ideas about why, but am not ready to publish them.
@barbarabeeton I am a DANTE member. Get the little magazine each quarter with nice articles, the DVD with the coloured paper thingy around. And i know that my dues are spend on useful projects. Why not give something back?
@JosephWright So that's one of the few things that will be untouched and be like in original plain TeX. Just out of curiosity, what more other things are probably going to be just the TeX way? Why not try to standardize those plus and minuses?
@barbarabeeton Just that it's possible to avoid the italic correction, if one wants to. However one loses the kerning with the following letter. :( That's why a special symbol is better.
In order to facilitate reading, I'm trying to rotate some specific pages containing tables or images which are wider than \textwidth. How can I achieve this?
Translated from Spanish by Gonzalo Medina
If he decides he wants to keep the Spanish text (though I already explained to him that the main language here is English), what should be done with the question?
@egreg -- i don't disagree with this. but if it's requested from unicode, they're going to reject it. also, at the moment, different fonts treat the math italic "d" differently, and until that's straightened out, other attempts are kind of moot.
@DavidCarlisle -- on the other hand, an 11-year-old boy has his father (or at least somebody else) to clean up after him. (but it's a fun experiment, i agree.)
@Johannes_B Most probably, yes. The thing that is not clear (and it wasn't clear in the original Spanish question either) is what does he want to do with the headers/footers. The title of the question mentions them, but then in the body of the question there's no mention to them.
@Johannes_B No idea who he is, but he must be a really cool guy if I made you remember him ;-)
@GonzaloMedina I know two TV series where the spanish is kept and they use subtitles, that is Dexter and Breaking Bad. But calling him a cool guy? Maybe cool killer.
LaTeX-Team: Is there any chance of adding adding unnumbered chapters to toc, something like KOMA's \addchap to classes.dtx?. It is asked so very very often, and many users use \addcontentsline wrong, getting wrong page numbers. Please at least consider it for the first generic L3-classes.
@PauloCereda A quiz to make compilaton go by shorter?
@DavidCarlisle -- what do kids do whose parents are too young to have old film canisters lying around -- or even to know what a film canister is? also, i think the results might be different if using a plastic vs. metal film canister. (in either case, get out of the way quickly!)
@PauloCereda My quack, your quack (like tu), his quack, her quack, our quack, your quack (like vous), their quack. And everyone quacks together. (Though I'm not clear whether 'cwacio' is the correct translation.)
sports update -- just been watching the videos of the women's henley regatta. brownbears.com/sports/w-crew/2014-15/releases/20150703hhpyjk brown eights and quads won! yay! that was the semis; the finals are/were today, and should be over by now. anybody know the results?
@PauloCereda -- there were ducks on the course, staying out of the way of the sculls; smart ducks!
I am a user of LaTeX for about two years and I can see that almost every package which exists for TeX are free and these packages are maintained perfectly; packages are updated regularly and new packages or classes are developed when needed.
Why people do such volunteer work? How do they benefit...
@EnthusiasticStudent But the reasoning and rewards are very different within the community. So no answer could be taking everything and everyone into account, or if so, it would be very very long. At least i guess so, the answer you want to have could be quite simple as well.
@clemens Now, since the forum exists, and already has three users. Should i send anybody to this new locale on purpose? Or answer the question (if i can) and mention your forum?
If community decides to close it, I never oppose. But, we have similar questions like that one which seem to be opinion based but received good answers. Look at this:
I wrote a book about LaTeX, and my proud grandma wanted to have a copy. So she got it, said "What a beautiful picture on the cover!" and - "What is this, LaTeX?".
She doesn't know Word, never used a computer. But she reads books. How can I explain what makes TeX and LaTeX special to a non-techni...
@EnthusiasticStudent That is the problem, we never play strictly by the rules. Strictly speaking, that should be closed as well. There are several of those questions.
@EnthusiasticStudent So far, there isn't close vote ;-)
@Johannes_B If in the next few days, my question does not receive good answers, I myself will ask moderators to delete it. I really like this site and I want it to be always perfect.
@EnthusiasticStudent There will never be perfection ;-) But we have an event starting in half an hour to answer some old questions, that never got any attention before. And to clear the list of unanswered of a few questions, that cannot be answered. Feel free to join :-)
@Johannes_B You guys are already perfect and I always appreciate you. I do not have enough knowledge of TeX to solve problems here, but I will be here to enjoy your event.
@EnthusiasticStudent I remember my first weeks here. Could not comment on questions to ask for details because i didn't have the rep. Finally, i found a question that i could answer, got enough reputation (iirc) to comment other questions. But the tick went to @egreg :-)
@EnthusiasticStudent Sadly, the possiblity of finding an easy question is quite low. They are answered quickly. Most of the stuff we will dig up will be either not answerable, or nobody has taken care of it yet, so no. The first bunch gets closed after consideration. The last bunch keeps staying, and staying. And staying.
@EnthusiasticStudent What is your favourite tag? use the search like this: [templates] duplicate:0 answers:0 closed:0 Change templates to the tag you think you know a bit and have a look at the questions.
@EnthusiasticStudent If somebody joins in ;-) But the good thing is, you can browse and answer unanswered questions at any time.
@Johannes_B If that question doesn’t get closed, I have a few comments that I think may sound interesting, and I think people might want to hear them, but I’m afraid all of them will be rude :-/
@Johannes_B yes of course I try to answer unanswered, but as you said, easy ones usually get answers really fast. But I do my best to learn from the answered ones too...
@ArthurReutenauer Once it got an answer, there is (imho) no need to close a question. Except for duplicates or really off-topic questions that fit better on another site.
@ArthurReutenauer The rude business is another things. Maybe rephrasing will be a good idea ;-)
My source
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[table]{xcolor}
\usepackage{tikz}
\usetikzlibrary{shapes.geometric}
\tikzset{add reference/.style={insert path={%
coordinate [pos=0,xshift=-0.5\pgflinewidth,yshift=-0.5\pgflinewidth] (#1 south west)
coordinate [pos=1,xshift...
Here's a possible solution using the features provided by the exam document class and the answers package:
\documentclass{exam}
\usepackage{answers}
\Newassociation{sol}{Solution}{ans}
\newtheorem{ex}{}{}
\renewcommand\questionlabel{}
\renewcommand\questionshook{\leftmargin0pt}
\begin{document...
I use Pandoc tables in my incomplete LaTeX documents.
I do computation on those tables with the field separator as pipe.
Raw data
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Size | File | EventSize | W.Events | ID | HeaderSize | ffff | ...
In order to facilitate reading, I'm trying to rotate some specific pages containing tables or images which are wider than \textwidth. How can I achieve this?
Translated from Spanish by Gonzalo Medina
