TeX, LaTeX and Friends

wget

08:22

Hi guys. Does anyone has ever experienced a clash issue with the url package. I'm using hyperref but I need to pass the options hyphens to url. For that, I need to write explicitely \RequirePackage[hyphens]{url}. But this line is clashing and I got this error message: "Option clash for package url. \RequirePackage". If I use "\PassOptionsToPackage{hyphens}{url}" instead I got "Option clash for package url. \let".

Any idea? Where to look for? This question seems to have been asked many times, and I don't want to create yet another one.

wget

08:32

And the hyperref option breaklinks=true doesn't help.

Ok got it. Still the order of packages declaration that makes the thing failing...

What's quite weird is that the hyperref package author is recommending to put it at the end of the document. This is what I did, and putting at the biginning solved the problem. This is against recommandations. :-/

David Carlisle

@wget can't you just load url with that option before hyperref

wget

08:48

@DavidCarlisle Nope, like I said "If I use "\PassOptionsToPackage{hyphens}{url}" instead I got "Option clash for package url. \let"."

and obviously that command is loaded before hyperref.

@DavidCarlisle Ok I debugged the issue. This i sdue to biblatex (again you!). If hyperref is loaded after, hyphenation breaking doesn't work.

David Carlisle

@wget That isn't what I said to do:-)

wget

Ah. My bad. What do you meant exactly then?

David Carlisle

@wget of course it would be easier if you had made a real question with a real test case and shown your full error message (have I mentioned before that asking questions in chat doesn't work so well:-) \usepackage[hyphens]{url}\usepackage{hyperref} and if you still get a clash the help text shows you which options to use

wget

@DavidCarlisle Do I need to write a question now I succeeded to debug my problem. A

I made a minimal working example, and this confirms that BibLaTeX was the issue.

*Do I need to write a question now I succeeded to debug my problem?

David Carlisle

@wget no:-)

wget

08:59

@DavidCarlisle I gonna edit this answer so : tex.stackexchange.com/a/3034/66964

David Carlisle

@wget but biblatex isn't involved in that question, are you sure you should edit it in to such an old answer?

wget

@DavidCarlisle This could help newbies.

Joseph Wright

@wget Separate question though

wget

@JosephWright A question I'm gonna answer myself so?

David Carlisle

@wget no adding unrelated facts to old questions just confuses everyone, ask a new question and self-answer

wget

09:03

Ok. Gonna do that. Thanks for the advice.

Christian Hupfer

09:24

Good maen

Paulo Cereda

09:41

@ChristianHupfer Hi!

Johannes_B

Formerly some purple squares and triangles, now some green github alien face. Or just some green squares. Dunno. Long story short, new profile picture.

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: Sorry, I was away from keyboard. Are you feeling better?

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer Yes, thank you. :)

wget

Done. tex.stackexchange.com/questions/237683/…

Christian Hupfer

10:06

@PauloCereda: Nice to hear, er... read ;-)

David Carlisle

10:19

@wget not very informative title :(

yo'

10:41

@egreg They play for you: Bohuslav Martinů: Pastorels for violoncello and piano. :D

egreg

@yo' Leopold Mozart's “Sinfonia pastorella” for Alp horn and orchestra is surely better.

yo'

@egreg possibly. I dunno, I just have the radio on :)

wget

@DavidCarlisle It should be better now ;-)
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/237683/forcing-linebreaks-in-url-does-not-work-with-biblatex-and-menukeys

egreg

CONCERTO pour Cor des Alpes-L . Mozart

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Friedrich

Hi all, i do have a question and i hope to find someone who can help me with it

yo'

10:46

@wget The recommendation is to have \PassOptionsToPackage as soon as possible.

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Heute hamse mal wieder alle Ausgang. golatex.de/… und golatex.de/…

Friedrich

I posted about thicker computer modern lately and even though it was a duplicate, its still a matter i am interested in: I tried embolding latin modern in FontForge and it already looked a lot like what i was expection, but there were some flaws here and there - is anyone here very familiar with FontForge?

*expecting

Paul Gessler

@Johannes_B new avatar? You're looking dashing. :-)

Hi all!

Johannes_B

1 hour ago, by Johannes_B

Formerly some purple squares and triangles, now some green github alien face. Or just some green squares. Dunno. Long story short, new profile picture.

Hi @PaulGessler

Call me crazy, but this is a green martian with a strange moustache.

Paul Gessler

Whoop, sorry, didn't read back far enough. Laptop ist tote, stuck on mobile for the bus ride this morning. :-)

Christian Hupfer

10:52

@Johannes_B: I see green and white squares... makes me mad

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer I cannot show my real face, nobody wants to see that.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B: Many people do show their face and should not do so (including me :D), so be courageous... show your face here ;-) Come on!

David Carlisle

@egreg glad to see you're promoting my packages again

yo'

@Paulo follow this dude, pal: github.com/johannesbottcher :D

Paulo Cereda

@yo' ooooh @Johannes has been spotted!

Christian Hupfer

10:57

@egreg: How comes: Recommending @DavidCarlisle package?

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer At night, i loook like this:

vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/simpsons/images/2/2b/Pie_Man.png/…

@yo' How did you find me that fast?

@yo' Btw, there is nothing interesting going on.

yo'

@Johannes_B I first went through @Paulo's "Following", you weren't there (yet), so I tried @Paulo's "Followers" :-)

Johannes_B

@yo' My disguise has vanished, oh no :-)

yo'

@Johannes_B I feel sorry for being a spy :D

Paulo Cereda

@yo' :)

Christian Hupfer

11:01

@yo': Whistleblower!!!!!! Booooooooooooooooooooooooooh

yo'

@ChristianHupfer BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO <-- see, I can do better :D

Christian Hupfer

@yo': www.i-do-not-care-at-all.org ;-)

yo'

> Server not found

Paulo Cereda

@yo' llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch.co.u…

egreg

11:44

@DavidCarlisle I myself avoid them. ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@egreg: hope you like it: youtube.com/watch?v=CHAGqlwLw6c :)

David Carlisle

@egreg so do I

3

Christian Hupfer

13:42

Unfortunately in German only... 40 years of MP and the Holy Grail:

spiegel.de/einestages/…

David Carlisle

14:21

@JosephWright :( tex.stackexchange.com/questions/237723/…

Paulo Cereda

14:32

@DavidCarlisle Yay let's break everything!

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Presumably needs cutting down to a plain example for the bug report

David Carlisle

@JosephWright nah, I just sent it as is to the list, a failed assertion is a clear error there shouldn't be need to isolate the macros used.

Paulo Cereda

15:55

manchester is being overriden! Time for Slackware once again. :)

yo'

@PauloCereda I wonder where you get the free time to maintain so many machines...

Johannes_B

The Ricky Gervais Show - Karls best moments

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Paulo Cereda

@yo' Nope. :)

yo'

@PauloCereda uh?

Paulo Cereda

@yo' I don't have free time. :P

yo'

16:05

@PauloCereda uh oh :D

gotta go, the shop closes at 7pm

David Carlisle

@yo' he just loafs around here and leaves all the admin work to Psmith.

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle :)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda speaking of which where is Psmith, not seen him for ages

Paulo Cereda

!!/help

Uh-oh. :)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda your software working as smoothly as ever?

Paulo Cereda

16:17

@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: Good afternoon! I'm Psmith, the friendly TeX bot - the p in my name is silent, as in pshrimp. I'm here as a companion to our fellow users in the typographic land. As you probably noticed, I always reply under Paulo's account, but do not despair, I say, my replies are always preceded by my own name. Enjoy your stay at TeX.sx! If you need any help, just ask our chat residents. Cheerio!

@DavidCarlisle Phew.

@David: I should join the LuaTeX team. :)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda they've fixed that already

!!/answer should I go to Darmstadt?

Johannes_B

@DavidCarlisle Yes :-)

Paulo Cereda

Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

Should I Go (music work)



(excluding "a", "he", "for", etc.)
(based on lyrics as performed by Brandy on the album Afrodisiac)
album | music act | release date
Afrodisiac | Brandy | Tuesday, June 29, 2004

!!/eightball Should David go to Darmstadt?

@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: listen to David.

LOL

egreg

@PauloCereda Ended LaTeX lecture, with example of usage of arara.

Paulo Cereda

16:33

@egreg yaaay!

@egreg: did you ensure the correct pronunciation of it? :)

egreg

@PauloCereda The link about the Tridentine Mass is of the SSPX society (the Bishop Léfebvre's followers).

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Really?! Oh no, I'm sorry!

I didn't pay attention.

Faheem Mitha

17:08

For a short document, like one page, does memoir or the relevant KOMA class have anything to offer over plain article?

And hi guys.

Johannes_B

@FaheemMitha No, not really. Well, depends what you got on that page.

@FaheemMitha A poster is one page, and i wouldn't use either ;-)

Faheem Mitha

@Johannes_B just a one page document. like a legal type thing.

egreg

17:37

@PauloCereda I've watched a few minutes: much of that part was plain superstition. The corporal must be opened left first, the book has to be with its back up, the amice symbolizes I don't know remember what (while it's just practical for not making dirt the cassock).

Paulo Cereda

@egreg ooh thanks, I'll look for a more reliable source. Sorry for that.

;)

egreg

@PauloCereda Oh, it's instructive nonetheless!

Paulo Cereda

@egreg :)

Johannes_B

@FaheemMitha With KOMA, there is an easy interface to customize the font of title elements, and maybe the parskip-option. Or the built in footnote customization. But for a one-page doc, ah. If you have to change something, you can do it by hand.

Faheem Mitha

@Johannes_B which KOMA class would be suitable for a 1 page doc, anyway?

Johannes_B

17:47

@FaheemMitha scrartcl.

Faheem Mitha

@Johannes_B Ok, thank you.

Why do the KOMA classes all start with scr?

Johannes_B

@FaheemMitha The KOMA classes provide feature-rich enhancements/replacements for the generic standard classes. `article` -> `scrartcl` (script-article)
`report` -> `scrreprt` (script-report) and you can guess the last one:
`book` -> `scrbook` (script-book)

Faheem Mitha

@Johannes_B Oh, so scr stands for script? That's strange.

Johannes_B

@FaheemMitha KOMA-script is based on the script-styles from 2.09, AFAIK.

Faheem Mitha

@Johannes_B script-styles?

What are those?

Johannes_B

17:50

@FaheemMitha History. Actually, no idea.

Faheem Mitha

@Johannes_B ok

@Johannes_B you forgot scrlttr2, the letter class. Wonder why the 2.

Johannes_B

@FaheemMitha 2e made 2.09 obsolete in 1994? early nineties.

Faheem Mitha

@Johannes_B yes, I know.

Johannes_B

@FaheemMitha There is an older scrlettr. Bit like obsolete datetime and now datetime2

Faheem Mitha

But I don't know what script-style is. Never used 2.09. I think I started with 2e around 1996 or so.

Maybe 1997.

@Johannes_B Also part of KOMA?

Johannes_B

17:53

@FaheemMitha datetime is a project by @nicolaTalbot.

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright: I have a crazy idea for L3. It's so crazy it will be next great thing ever. :)

Faheem Mitha

@Johannes_B I meant scrlettr.

Johannes_B

@FaheemMitha There is also a package scrletter.sty to make letters available within the other KOMA classes. Comes in handy when writing a job application with cv and letter.

Faheem Mitha

@Johannes_B Oh, interesting.

Johannes_B

@FaheemMitha I think scrlettr isn't distributed anymore. Went obsolete too long ago.

Stefan Kottwitz

17:55

@FaheemMitha Brand new! Hard to find a download source. But here's a secret one: script_s.sty.

Johannes_B

@StefanKottwitz Wow, thanks.

Stefan Kottwitz

@Johannes_B I guess it's even too ancient and rare to make it into l2tabu

Johannes_B

@FaheemMitha another example: scrpage was superceeded by scrpage2 which got suceeded by scrlayer-scrpage.

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda ?

Paulo Cereda

!!/eightball Is Gunar secretly @Johannes in disguise?

Johannes_B

17:58

@StefanKottwitz The only reason i know a bit more of the script are some mentions in the KOMA-book and some hints dropping by Besserwisser/saputello

Paulo Cereda

@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: stop hassling me, dud.

@DavidCarlisle I think Frank will kill me, so I need to prepare terrain. :)

Stefan Kottwitz

@FaheemMitha If a package is not backwards compatible, it should get a new name, to not break documents, so we got some name changes for the same project

@Johannes_B Btw. do you go to Stralsund next week?

Faheem Mitha

@PauloCereda That's dude, man.

@StefanKottwitz What is brand new?

egreg

!!/battle

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Psmith, the TeX bot: The current score is egreg 275 vs. 205 David. So far, egreg is winning.

Faheem Mitha

18:02

@StefanKottwitz Do you work on KOMA?

David Carlisle

@FaheemMitha It's a one-man project isn't it?

Faheem Mitha

@PauloCereda is it just @egreg and @DavidCarlisle, or can anyone else join in?

egreg

@PauloCereda I couldn't avoid properly using Psmith.

Stefan Kottwitz

@FaheemMitha just joking! this seems to be an original ancient script version, so pretty interesting, historically

Paulo Cereda

@egreg :)

@FaheemMitha Only the two.

Faheem Mitha

18:03

@DavidCarlisle it is? I hope not. The one chap must be in a state of collapse.

Stefan Kottwitz

@FaheemMitha I'm just a KOMA user.

Faheem Mitha

@StefanKottwitz ok

@PauloCereda That's discrimination.

Paulo Cereda

@FaheemMitha Start gaining more rep and we will consider your case.

:)

Faheem Mitha

@PauloCereda I wasn't talking about me.

Stefan Kottwitz

@PauloCereda ah, it was rep, not age?

Paulo Cereda

18:05

@FaheemMitha you were the only one complaining. :)

@StefanKottwitz Int128. :)

Faheem Mitha

@PauloCereda I was observing/commenting.

Paulo Cereda

!!/reputation 37907

@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: User: Johannes_B :: Reputation: 6,513

egreg

@StefanKottwitz Shut up!

Faheem Mitha

@egreg lol

Paulo Cereda

!!/answer how old is David?

Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

age | of David  (religious, etc.) |  today
(09.04.2015 is after David died)

o.O

Faheem Mitha

18:08

@PauloCereda your bot is broken.

Stefan Kottwitz

@egreg I'm one of the older guys too, with an ancient avatar photo (needed to find a friendly one), so I may be allowed to joke hopefully :-)

Paulo Cereda

!!/eightball should we hit Stefan with a big trout?

@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: it ain't happening.

Faheem Mitha

@StefanKottwitz how do you like KOMA?

@PauloCereda I think the operative verb is slap.

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Decided about TUG2015 yes?

Stefan Kottwitz

@FaheemMitha When I was new to LaTeX, I was sceptic about this "different" thing, but only because I did not now much about it. Just the name told me "different, more work, perhaps incompatible". But soon I knew it was one of the best TeX projects, being a big advance for LaTeX users.

David Carlisle

18:18

@PauloCereda I didn't know I was dead. that's a shame.

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle Oh no!

Stefan Kottwitz

@DavidCarlisle must be a bug

David Carlisle

@JosephWright probably go, just need to organise it

@StefanKottwitz I've heard they can be fatal

!!/eightball am I alive?

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: my reply is no yes.

David Carlisle

:(

Paulo Cereda

18:21

@DavidCarlisle Fixed. :)

Faheem Mitha

@StefanKottwitz So, you're a fan?

@DavidCarlisle A damned shame.

You will be much missed.

barbara beeton

@DavidCarlisle -- so you and mark twain have something in common.

David Carlisle

@barbarabeeton literary skill?

barbara beeton

@DavidCarlisle -- not exactly ... "The reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated."

David Carlisle

@barbarabeeton well I knew of that but still I hoped for the other connection:-)

Paulo Cereda

18:26

!!/eightball Does David have great literary skills?

@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: I think I'll pass.

@DavidCarlisle: Psmith is a little bitter today. :)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda so I notice, I'm regretting asking you to invite him back.

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle Let me adjust some settings, so we can try again. :)

Faheem Mitha

@PauloCereda Oh, so you are the guilty party?

Paulo Cereda

!!/eightball Does David have great literary skills?

@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: no way.

LOL

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda hmm much better:(

barbara beeton

18:28

@DavidCarlisle -- i'm not aware of any comments re mt's typing skills.

Paulo Cereda

!!/eightball do you have bugs, Psmith?

Faheem Mitha

@PauloCereda ask if David has great TeXnical skills.

Paulo Cereda

@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: no way.

David Carlisle

!!/eightball does @barbarabeeton have any reason to comment adversely about my typing?

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: not in this lifetime.

!!/eightball Are you bitter today?

@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: reply hazy, try again.

Faheem Mitha

18:30

!!/eightball Are you just delivering random responses?

Paulo Cereda

@FaheemMitha Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: you need to use emacs.

Stefan Kottwitz

@FaheemMitha I got just the practical view. It's great to have stable base classes which did not change much during 20 years. but it's also nice to rely on a feature-rich class set which has been heavily developed over nearly such a time

Faheem Mitha

@PauloCereda I rest my case.

barbara beeton

@PauloCereda -- "this lifetime" is very imprecise. whose lifetime? @David's, mine, or psmith's?

Faheem Mitha

And I do use emacs.

@StefanKottwitz Ok.

Paulo Cereda

18:31

!!/eightball do you love me, Psmith?

@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: let's wait for David to finish xor first.

@barbarabeeton I don't know. :)

Faheem Mitha

Are the KOMA classes unstable then?

Stefan Kottwitz

@FaheemMitha I used stable in the meaning of static (because of seeing it with the positive aspect)

Faheem Mitha

@StefanKottwitz Ah, ok.

Stefan Kottwitz

@FaheemMitha of course KOMA classes have stable versions, new versions, and development versions, and they provide backwards compatibility features

Faheem Mitha

@StefanKottwitz Sounds good. I've only used scrlttr2, but was mostly favorably impressed. It certainly seems much more developed than letter.

Stefan Kottwitz

18:36

@FaheemMitha it was ahead of time when being developed, so it got a bit unusual syntax (pseudo lengths) but I used it too, it's a fine class. I always got the job when I applied with a scrlttr2 document

but the main effect is visible LaTeX quality, scrlttr2 just just the frame, but a highly customizable great one

Faheem Mitha

@StefanKottwitz Ok. I had some minor issues. Maybe I'll post a question.

Johannes_B

@StefanKottwitz No, unfortunately not. :-(

@FaheemMitha Most LaTeX packages are maintained by one guy. Of course with the help of bug-reports and input by others.

Faheem Mitha

@Johannes_B KOMA is big, though.

Johannes_B

18:51

@FaheemMitha So is tikz, memoir ...

Faheem Mitha

@Johannes_B tikz has more than one developer.

Paulo Cereda

@FaheemMitha These projects have contributors.

Faheem Mitha

@PauloCereda Yes, that was my point.

Paulo Cereda

@FaheemMitha You mentioned developers.

Faheem Mitha

@PauloCereda Are you making a distinction between developer and contributor?

Paulo Cereda

18:59

@FaheemMitha They aren't the same.

Faheem Mitha

@PauloCereda Ok. definitions, please.

Johannes_B

@FaheemMitha At least not in the (La)TeX world.

Faheem Mitha

@Johannes_B fine. so, what are the respective definitions?

Johannes_B

@FaheemMitha When i hear contributor, i instantly think of github and co and pull requests. With KOMA, for instance, you can make suggestions/feature requests and Markus will consider implementing it. So you contribute by giving input (suggestions, bug reports), no final code.

@FaheemMitha pgf/TikZ is extended by many libraries, by different people, but the pgf-core is imho developed by Till alone.

Faheem Mitha

@Johannes_B Oh. So contributor can mean as little as bug reporter?

@Johannes_B I thought he didn't work on it any more.

Johannes_B

19:05

@FaheemMitha You contribute, you are giving something to the project.

Faheem Mitha

@Johannes_B Ok.

But I don't think a bug report means too much.

I file lots of them. Nobody cares.

Johannes_B

@FaheemMitha Well, version 3.0 was pushed last year, or the year before. So i think pgf is still active. He left beamer behind, as far as i know. We nedd confirmation by @Joseph, i think.

Paulo Cereda

@Faheem: a contributor can help with anything, including code. But the final decision, as well as the final implementation, relies with the developer. S/he is in charge of what goes into production and whatnot.

Faheem Mitha

@Johannes_B ok

@PauloCereda Ok.

Johannes_B

@FaheemMitha Depends on the community i think. The reason for not caring could be a completely different one.

Faheem Mitha

19:07

@Johannes_B Of course. not caring often means completely ignoring.

Johannes_B

@FaheemMitha I filed a bug report for package minitoc once, and noticed that it is useless a few minutes later. :-( Nobody knows where Stephan has dissappeared to as well.

Faheem Mitha

@Johannes_B I don't understand the second sentence.

Stephan?

Johannes_B

@FaheemMitha The maintainer of minitoc passed away a while back. The (former) maintainer and dev of biblatex, etoolbox and csquotes just vanished. Nobody knows anything.

Faheem Mitha

@Johannes_B Oh, was that who I was talking about to @JosephWright a few days ago?

Johannes_B

@FaheemMitha Dunno :-) I cannot follow every conversation here. A link might be helpful. ;-)

Paulo Cereda

19:11

@FaheemMitha They are different people. You were talking about Phillip.

Faheem Mitha

@PauloCereda Oh. Someone else who disappeared? :-(

Someone really should keep a directory of people.

Paulo Cereda

@FaheemMitha biblatex dev Philipp Lehman.

Faheem Mitha

@PauloCereda Oh. Also biblatex. Maybe it has a curse. :-/

@Johannes_B So, what is Stephan's full name?

Johannes_B

@PauloCereda @FaheemMitha Sorry, i wa as well talking about Phillip. I am tired.

@FaheemMitha Sorry, confusion in my head. ^^^^

Faheem Mitha

@Johannes_B Ah, relieved only one person disappeared.

Paulo Cereda

19:16

@Johannes_B You were right. :) I think for a moment we assumed minitoc's author was the same person.

Christian Hupfer

Good maen again

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer Quack!

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer the sound penguins make

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: Das böse Entchen (das is correct here ;-))

@Johannes_B: Sächsische Pinguine?

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer :)

@Johannes_B Maybe it's a penguin who speaks duck. :)

Johannes_B

19:28

@ChristianHupfer Do they sound differently?

@PauloCereda Yeah, this might be a good explanation.

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: Advanced Duckish for Penguins? Course Level A1 ... fluent speaker ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer LOL

So I need a travel insurance for going to Europe? Boo. :)

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: Why not? ... Europe is quite dangerous :-P Fierce Creatures, see the Saxon Penguins in the Johannes_B area ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer :)

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: By the way, I visited the living house(s) of Johann Wolfgang von Goethe and Friedrich Schiller last week, in the same city, saw their coffins in the vault, all on the same day... two of the greatest German poets and writers...

Paulo Cereda

19:34

@ChristianHupfer ooh how nice! :)

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer two of the greatest German poets and writers... dead anyway.

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: The vault is quite scary ... 45 coffins...

@Johannes_B: Yes, like Fontane, Brecht, Müller, Hauptmann etc.... I see dead poets... a dead poets society ;-)

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer I don't.

@ChristianHupfer I think the guy next to me is Einstein, though.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B: As a Physicist I would agree with you, but I like literature as well... there so many books to read ... and even more to be written ;-)

Vrouvrou

Hello, i want to write arabtex

can you tell me where is the error in this :

\documentclass[12pt,a4paper,leqno]{report}
%-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
\usepackage{enumerate}
\usepackage{latexsym}
\usepackage{amssymb}
\usepackage{amsfonts}
%\usepackage{amsmath}
\usepackage[active]{srcltx}
\usepackage{graphicx}
\usepackage{fancyhdr}
\usepackage{lastpage}
%-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
\usepackage{array,multirow,makecell}
\setcellgapes{1pt}
\makegapedcells
\newcolumntype{R}[1]{>{\raggedleft\arraybackslash }b{#1}}

thank you

Johannes_B

19:49

@ChristianHupfer @PauloCereda Told you i became uncle. You might be interested ;-) :

pingu.ep003.pinga.is.born

►

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer ooh das Koffin!

@Johannes_B Yaaay!

Christian Hupfer

German history ... Goethe (left), Schiller, right and the National Theatre of Weimar, where in 1919 the new Constitution of Germany was declared (after the downfall of the German Empire in World War I) ...

@Johannes_B: Oh, the pingu show ... besides... is it a niece or a nephew?

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer youtube.com/watch?v=gaxft8-LK88

@ChristianHupfer Uncle in the east german sense. Not really relatives. But it is a little girl.

Christian Hupfer

20:04

@Johannes_B: "East German" ... aha ;-)

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Here, an uncle or aunt can be anybody. The gindergarden teacher, friends. No need to be really related.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B: Isch werde eisch nie vastän ;-)

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Brauchsde ne, mir gönn oh alle deidsch.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B: Mir kennet ellet, user Hochditsch :-P

Christian Hupfer

20:41

@Johannes_B: Lad, you're quick ;-)

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Good starting value ;-)

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B: Stock answer? ;-)

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Heikos answer is better though.

3 votes; 3 answers; 14 views

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B: 3 by 3 votes now ;-)

Johannes_B

21:09

@ChristianHupfer I still haven't got used to my new avatar picture.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B: Why did you change it at all?

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Not sure. I didn't like the former very much, and golatex and LC never had a profile picture. I thought it was time to make a change. And i kinda like moustache martian

Christian Hupfer

21:27

@Johannes_B: I am scared ;-)

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer This is a little green martian with a moustache. Everybody sees that. ;-)

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B: Yeah!!!

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Oh no, first they find my github account and now a private picture of me in the morning.

Christian Hupfer

I don't think it's possible to resize parts of a glyph from LaTeX?

0

Q: How to increase the arrow size on oint

With my font of choice (for other reasons), the arrow indicating the orientation of the contour appears very small. Is there a way to increase its size? \documentclass[10pt]{article} \usepackage{amsmath, amssymb, graphicx, gensymb, amsfonts, amsthm, mathrsfs} \usepackage[charter]{mathdesign} \us...

arrows

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer If you put it together by different parts, you could scale the parts differently, i think. But here, i guess not.

Christian Hupfer

21:40

@Johannes_B: Well, yes, merging different glyphs is a possibility but not very convenient

Should we close this as too broad/opinion - based?

1

Q: Is \left...\right necessary when there are sub/super-scripts?

$(a_2+b^3)$ or $\left(a_2+b^3\right)$. Which is correct? An experiment shows that in these two expressions the size of parentheses are different. Is \left...\right necessary for correct formatting in this particular case?

fontsize delimiters

Christian Hupfer

21:53

@Johannes_B: Running out of comment votes is bad :-(

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Never happened so far, and i upvote quite a lot.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B: Happens quite often for me ;-)

@Johannes_B: But I don't understand why there are 45 flags per day ... I never needed that much flags ...

Canageek

Humm, there are a bunch of you from all over the world here; Do any of you have experience with Lufthansa airlines? I'm flying to Europe for the first time and am rather nervous

Christian Hupfer

@Canageek: Sorry, never flew with Lufthansa so far...

Christian Hupfer

22:23

Have a nice time

Canageek

@ChristianHupfer No worries. Just figured we have people from half the globe on here so I might as well check.

Faheem Mitha

22:38

How should one use \areaset{16,5cm}{32.0cm} as an argument to a KOMA class? I don't see how to do this, though I assume it is possible.

Paulo Cereda

22:54

@Canageek: when I was checking the flights for Germany, I took a look at Lufthansa: one of the most expensive companies. :(

I am going to Spain via Air Europa, which seems to be a Spanish company. The cheapest company I found from São Paulo to Frankfurt was KLM.

@Canageek: I am also quite nervous, it is my first trip as well. :)

Faheem Mitha

So, I'm trying to load typearea with non-default options, but it seems the KOMA classes already load it. So, how do I do that?

Canageek

23:26

@PauloCereda Expedia and Kayak both have them as the cheapest way to Poland. I checked Lot (Polish national airline), Air France and the Austrian National airline, but all are way more expensive.

@PauloCereda KLM costs about $150 more for the trip, and I'd have to fly through New York.

@PauloCereda And Air Europa doesn't fly from Vancouver

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