TeX, LaTeX and Friends - 2015-04-10 (page 1 of 2)

yo'

06:52

@PauloCereda It really depends, my dad once flew with Lufthansa Prague-Munich-Rome, because it was cheaper than Czech Airlines direct Prague-Rome :)

Vrouvrou

07:27

hello, how i can dowlond a new version of latex on mac os x 10.6.8

please

Joseph Wright

07:43

@Vrouvrou tug.org/mactex

David Carlisle

08:33

@Canageek Not much you can say really, despite recent events, it's the German national airline, so reliable efficient and not the cheapest.

Paulo Cereda

@Canageek In my case it's the exact opposite. :) I need to avoid flights with stop overs in the US because I need a visa. :)

@yo' ooh! :)

Stefan Kottwitz

@Canageek I'm flying often with Lufthansa. That's mainly because I work for that airline. But I preferred it also before, as it was always a good experience. I only considered other airlines from price perspective.

@Canageek As they are big and not a cheap airline, they can afford good service, well trained crew, rather new airplanes (I suppose this only) and good places at airport terminals.

Like an expensive cruise ship comes to the city center but a cheap one anchors outside or in an industry port nearby and transports passengers with bus to the town :-)

Apropos cruise ships! Lufthansa has a lot of own knowhow regarding technology which they also bring outside. I'm working for the business unit which designs and implements networks for cruise ships (and we did a lot of ships, currently I'm involved in 4 such projects). And, for example, two cruise lines currently build a new maritime operation center with support from Lufthansa because of their safety knowledge. I cannot think of such with other, "cheaper" airlines.

Johannes_B

08:57

-3

A: What are good learning resources for a LaTeX beginner?

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@StefanKottwitz ^^^^^

Stefan Kottwitz

@Johannes_B There were two such posts, I deleted them, thanks

@Johannes_B And thanks for deleting the two spam posts at latex-community.org

@Johannes_B I additionally deleted the user profile which had spam links in home page and signature. Luckily they don't come often anymore.

Johannes_B

@StefanKottwitz Right, i should flag spam accounts for you to delete.

Johannes_B

10:18

I'll return to downvote this eventually when I have enough reputation. — Tomáš Zato Mar 15 at 15:16

Wow. :-D

yo'

11:14

@Johannes_B he seems to have forgotten: 147 rep and the A has 0 dnvotes

Johannes_B

@yo' Saw that, but i won't drop him a note to downvote. This would be crazy. Answer is questionable, though.

yo'

@Johannes_B I'll flag both the answer and the comment.

Johannes_B

@yo' Ok, thanks.

yo'

@Johannes_B btw, he's got a funny nickname. "Tomáš Zato" is hardly his true name, since "to máš za to" means something like "you deserved this" in a very negative and rude tone.

Johannes_B

@yo' Matches the profile picture and about me picture.

yo'

11:18

@Johannes_B quite :D

Stefan Kottwitz

11:32

@Johannes_B I converted that "answer" to a comment

yo'

@StefanKottwitz thanks

Johannes_B

12:05

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Q: lstlisting escape ů

please how can I escape character ů? \documentclass[a4paper,10pt]{article} \usepackage[utf8x]{inputenc} \usepackage{listings} \lstset{literate= {á}{{\'a}}1 {é}{{\'e}}1 {í}{{\'i}}1 {ó}{{\'o}}1 {ú}{{\'u}}1 {Á}{{\'A}}1 {É}{{\'E}}1 {Í}{{\'I}}1 {Ó}{{\'O}}1 {Ú}{{\'U}}1 {à}{{\`a}}1 {è}{{\`e}}1 ...

listings

Duplicate of how to look up a symbol or math alphabet?

yo'

12:36

@Johannes_B not at all! Escaping combined letters in listings is tricky and quite special. However, I agree with closing as OT. Yet it gets a +1 from me since it's a proper question :)

Johannes_B

@yo' Plus one from me as well. OT seems better, as it really was faulty input. But on the other hand, a good place to look that up would be table 17 in symbols-a4 ;-)

yo'

@Johannes_B yes, but it's not really reasonable here, this is obviously a typo :)

Johannes_B

@yo' There are so many literates, that i simply overlooked the faulty one at first. Had to look up the accent myself first, found only \aa in lshort and searched in latex.ltx -> \def \aa {\r a}

yo'

@Johannes_B you could have asked me, ů is a Czech letter of course :)

David Carlisle

!!/help

Johannes_B

12:42

@yo' I saw a (i think) polish truck today. One word was drzwi if i recll correctly.

yo'

@Johannes_B that's possible, yes, it would be dveře in Czech :D having the same slavic root as dřevo -- wood.

Johannes_B

drzwi -- the doors

@yo' Think i could at least try to pronounce that. but drzwi? Not even when drunk.

yo'

@Johannes_B rz is one letter in Polish, so the pronounciation is dřvi

all of which is still easier than scvrnkls

Johannes_B

@yo' something like \ss{} or \ae ?

yo'

@Johannes_B no, not really, more like sch in German

ah sorry, they don't treat is as one letter officially.

Johannes_B

13:02

@yo' Ah, one sound/syllable. But now i realize, for the first time in my life, that the german language as well has constructs with three letters and no vowel inbetween.

David Carlisle

13:53

@egreg you should be proud of me: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/237903/…

Johannes_B

14:25

@StefanKottwitz I should check out LC main more often. I just now saw that the L-Templates partnership was officially announced.

Stefan Kottwitz

14:54

@Johannes_B (I could have posted it to the forum, you you would have seen it too, I just chose the front page) perhaps follow the blog and news aggregator texample.net/community to see more what happens

Johannes_B

@StefanKottwitz Just clicked the link, and the first thing i saw: Download a LaTeX ebook for free

Stefan Kottwitz

@Johannes_B ah, the message is still there, I will remove it, as it's gone

Johannes_B

@StefanKottwitz there are a lot of blog i wasn't aware about. Should keep up my reading ;-)

Stefan Kottwitz

@Johannes_B ok, link gone

@Johannes_B yes, sadly only a few blogs are active

Johannes_B

@StefanKottwitz Nothing going on over at the texwelt block as well, lately.

Stefan Kottwitz

15:00

@Johannes_B soon you could tell users there about the TL 2015 pretest :-) will start in the next few days

today Karl wrote, that '14 will be frozen today because of that

Johannes_B

@StefanKottwitz I nver did a pretest so far. Updated to 2014 by accident a few months back. Still don't know, why i was able to simply update to 2014.

David Carlisle

15:14

@StefanKottwitz yep then we really find out if we broke anything with the 2015/01/01 latex release:-)

Johannes_B

15:30

@StefanKottwitz @JosephWright @DavidCarlisle Is this one for academia? Is it on-topic here? vvvv

2

Q: Link to article using a 'download' or 'view online' symbol?

I would like to have a way for people to download an article from my document, and I thought that using the hyperref package would help, so I changed my bibtex entry to: @article{Aragon:2015, Author = {Cuba Ramos, Aurelia and \underline{A. M. Arag{\'o}n} and Soghrati, Soheil and Geubelle, Ph...

bibtex bibliographies symbols

David Carlisle

@Johannes_B off topic here, never looked at the academia site so don't know if it fits

@Johannes_B voted ot

egreg

16:42

@DavidCarlisle I'm in a good mood, so I didn't vote for deletion.

Joseph Wright

17:29

@DavidCarlisle Indeed: I'm going to send an update to CTAN later today for the latest minor stuff ready for any 'incoming'

David Carlisle

@JosephWright so Frank's NFSS change just gets in?

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Yes

David Carlisle

@JosephWright Ok we're all ready then, what can go wrong....

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle I think it's a good idea to have a clear point when pretesting start: now is as good as anything

David Carlisle

@JosephWright yep agreed

Johannes_B

17:41

@DavidCarlisle I hope you didn't just jinx it. ;-)

Jasper Loy

@JosephWright Quack!

Joseph Wright

@JasperLoy Yo!

Johannes_B

@JasperLoy I see that @PauloCereda is also in disguise?

Jasper Loy

@Johannes_B I don't see him here.

Johannes_B

If anybody feels the need to drop a note, apparently it is quite easy:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/submit-questions-and-comments

Jasper Loy

17:43

@JosephWright Well I am still suffering from OCD and PTSD and still not working, just to update you guys. I may never ever get well. =( @PauloCereda

@Johannes_B What do you mean that he is in disguise?

Johannes_B

@JasperLoy Seems to be the wrong attitude. Look at your profile picture. ;-)

@JasperLoy Only a few people speak duck, @paulo is the most prominent one.

Jasper Loy

@Johannes_B Thanks for the encouragement. I am just clinging on to a little bit of hope I have left in life.

Johannes_B

@JasperLoy There is always hope, always someone in need that you can help. Good music can help as well.

@JasperLoy Depending on where you live, you can even nag the president -> bundeskanzlerin.de/Webs/BKin/DE/Service/Kontakt/… ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@JasperLoy: Quaaaack!

Johannes_B

I am attempted to drop Angela Merkel a note that there should be some horizontal space to the left.

Jasper Loy

17:56

@Johannes_B I live in a terrible country, I won't mention where.

Paulo Cereda

@AngelaMerkel: Hallo! Das Ente ist sehr cool.

Torbjørn T.

@Johannes_B I'm not really sure what to do about those. As you can see from the chatlog to the bibliography question, it wasn't a straightforward route to a solution, so I don't know what to write in an answer. It could turn into a short guide for using BibTeX ... For the Matlab question, I'm tempted to say close as duplicate of the one I linked to.

Johannes_B

@JasperLoy You can still nag president Obama or Angela Merkel or the Queen :-) I wonder what a seven year old might write them.

@TorbjørnT. Is this really the site for short guides?

Paulo Cereda

@BarackObama: Hello, do you use TeX? :)

Jasper Loy

@Johannes_B Your jokes are very funny, lol.

Torbjørn T.

18:00

@Johannes_B No, which part of the reason why I'm reluctant to answer.

Paulo Cereda

@QueenElizabeth: Hi your majesty, do you use TeX?

Jasper Loy

You use LaTeX but do you use latex?

Paulo Cereda

@JasperLoy ooh that's very naughty.

Johannes_B

@JasperLoy I just laughed out very very load in the university library :-D

Jasper Loy

@PauloCereda I am very depressed, so I am talking a lot of rubbish in many rooms today. The SE staff will probably ban me soon.

Paulo Cereda

18:02

@JasperLoy never, we won't allow. :)

Jasper Loy

@PauloCereda So far, I have been banned 5 times from chat. And they have sent me 2 emails because I said inappropriate things in chat. =) But it's OK. All that matters now is that I get well. I have not been working for 8 years because of my mental illness...

Johannes_B

@TorbjørnT. We need some kind of extra tag, in german i would say Ich kann mich nicht um ales kümmern which somehow translate to i can't keep track of everything.

Jasper Loy

@PauloCereda Don't you use rubber gloves? =)

Paulo Cereda

@JasperLoy in a hot weather? :)

Jasper Loy

Sorry posted in wrong room.

@PauloCereda It is very hot here where I live.

@PauloCereda Maybe I should come here more often and talk to you. =)

Paulo Cereda

18:21

@JasperLoy Ducks are very good with talking. :)

@JosephWright is also a duck.

@Johannes_B is a penguin.

Jasper Loy

I am a chicken.

Paulo Cereda

@PaulGessler is @PaulMcCartney in disguise.

:)

David Carlisle

18:41

@PauloCereda is Psmith around I think @egreg was wanting to run battle

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle Not today, I am in São Paulo and Psmith was left alone at home. :(

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda typical:-) Also I was going to ask for advice on the Grand National and the Boat Race (both tomorrow)

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle ooh money involved? :)

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle I have my fingers crossed for a double sinking :-)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda well I bought 6 horses at 50p each in the office sweepstake, winning horse gets £10 so possibly not enough to retire on.

Joseph Wright

18:48

@DavidCarlisle :-)

@DavidCarlisle Place it on Lucky Dan

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle You could start a Bring Paulo to Darmstadt campaign. :)

@JosephWright LOL

David Carlisle

@JosephWright well I was hoping to use Psmith as my telegraph operator with the inside information, but he's let me down as usual.

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle What time will the race happen?

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle :-)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda boat race 17:50 Grand National 16:15

Paulo Cereda

18:51

@DavidCarlisle I will arrive in time for a special bulletin then. :)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda times BST (+1)

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle What we want is the Queen Victoria handicap

Jasper Loy

@StefanKottwitz Is your book selling well?

Actually I wanted to buy the PSTricks book but it seems it has too many typos.

I hope there is a new updated second Eng edition soon.

@JosephWright Oh I have finally decided to get More Math into LaTeX instead of Guide to LaTeX, LOL, after thinking for one year.

Joseph Wright

@JasperLoy :-)

Stefan Kottwitz

@JasperLoy I doubt that sales numbers would high, since we made the one-day event of free dowload of that book, I announced that nearly everywhere

Joseph Wright

19:00

@DavidCarlisle Preparing to annoy Petra :-)

Stefan Kottwitz

@JasperLoy the publisher may benefit from new visitors who might buy other books later ;-)

David Carlisle

@JosephWright -)

Jasper Loy

@StefanKottwitz Maybe you can change the publisher or the font. =) That might improve your sales.

Canageek

@StefanKottwitz Odd, they are pretty much the cheapest way from Vancouver to Poland. Good to know they have good service though!

Stefan Kottwitz

@JasperLoy It was the only publisher who asked actively for a LaTeX book, so he got it :-)

Jasper Loy

19:04

@StefanKottwitz OK. I guess your book is really for beginners. It is one of the most basic books available on the market today.

Canageek

@PauloCereda I LIKE avoiding them as then you have to take off your shoes and go through x-ray scanners, which you don't inside Canada. I'm hoping Europe doesn't make me do that.

Stefan Kottwitz

@JasperLoy true, and because there were introductory LaTeX books at other publishers, they may not have been interested in another one anyway, despite that there's development

Canageek

@DavidCarlisle Odd, both Kayak and Expedia are listing them as the cheapest round trip from Vancouver or Seattle to Krakow, and then Prague back to the same.

@JosephWright What is the point of changing the formatting of the author list, if ACS is just going to relay things out themselves?

I find it cool that a question I asked THREE YEARS AGO just got a new and useful answer.

Joseph Wright

@Canageek Had some feedback from a user: one of the editorial offices would not take the submission without this change, so I decided to fix generally

@Canageek People get quite a lot of referee comments about formatting that I know will be fixed by the typesetters, but to get through the authors have to fix!

@Canageek Link?

David Carlisle

@Canageek yes well transatlantic fare structure is rather different, within Europe the market is skewed by carriers like easyjet and ryan air, that are usually far cheaper, but offer somewhat more basic service and often fly to less convenient smaller airports

Canageek

19:12

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A: Black and white emphasis for \boxed?

Some alternative examples made with tcboxmath, ams equation|gather|align|... tcolorbox environments: \documentclass[letterpaper]{article} \usepackage{lmodern} \usepackage{amssymb,mathtools} \usepackage[most]{tcolorbox} \tcbset{colback=white,colframe=black} \begin{document} With \texttt{tcboxm...

@DavidCarlisle Well, I'll take $1407 to go round trip to Europe! I'd LIKE cheaper, but hey. I'm going to talk to a travel agent tonight to see if they can beat the websites.

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle I finished the Git book :-)

Canageek

@JosephWright I think when you have a program who's only purpose is to do version control and it needs an entire book, I think something has gone wrong.....

Joseph Wright

@Canageek svnbook.red-bean.com ;-)

Canageek

@JosephWright FOUR HUNDRED PAGES OF VERSION CONTROL?

Joseph Wright

@Canageek Probably: I don't have that one in print

David Carlisle

19:18

@Canageek out of touch with current prices, at one point I was flying transatlantic two or three times a year but not been for years now.

Canageek

@DavidCarlisle Poland also seems more expensive then western Europe.

David Carlisle

@Canageek they need the money

Joseph Wright

@Canageek The complexity is needed for when a simple A -> B -> C becomes more varied: true even when only one person works on something

David Carlisle

@Canageek and it's further:-)

Canageek

@DavidCarlisle What is blowing my mind is how TINY everything is. I mean, From Krakow I could be in France in 15 hours. That is the other side of freaking Europe!

David Carlisle

19:20

@Canageek yes well canada has those big bits where no one lives

Canageek

@DavidCarlisle Yeah, and the entire middle section is farms and more farms, but still!

@DavidCarlisle France is smaller then most provinces, and it has 3 times Canada's population!

David Carlisle

@Canageek and it's a lot bigger than the UK

Canageek

@DavidCarlisle It was tempting to say screw central Europe and go to France and Western Germany and trace the path some of my relatives did in WWI and II

@DavidCarlisle HOLY COW. Their WHOLE COUNTRY is smaller then the province I grew up in, which is not one of hte larger ones. Heck, they are probably smaller then SOUTHERN Ontario, the part people live in.

David Carlisle

@Canageek "they" = us?

Canageek

@DavidCarlisle They = the UK

David Carlisle

19:24

@Canageek as I said:-)

Canageek

@DavidCarlisle At least it is bigger then Vancouver Island. (One of my coworkers is from and island nation that is smaller then a lot of our 'small islands')

David Carlisle

@Canageek if you live in a small island it helps if you have an empire that covers half the globe;-)

Canageek

@DavidCarlisle Well, we ARE technically part of your empire still (As a Dominion). You had to ask our permission to change the succession rules! (Which I'd noticed at the Canadian War Museum a few years before, and remarked that it would be cool if that happened, but probably never would)

Joseph Wright

@Canageek Ah, the Act of Settlement :-)

Canageek

@JosephWright Bit later then that; I forget the name and my google-fu is failing me, but it was a decolonization bit just after WWI that set that up.

@JosephWright It made explicit thanks to the aid (Read: Saving Britain's bacon) that them and a few other colonies sent during the war. (Canada's initial volunteer rush was larger then the UK's 1914 standing army)

@JosephWright (When did Canada become a country is a standard high school essay question with dozens of answers ranging well over 100 years apart....)

Joseph Wright

19:35

@Canageek Treaty of Westminster, but I meant our change is about issues come from the Act of Settlement

@DavidCarlisle Uploads underway

@DavidCarlisle I have spotted on definite positive for using a DVCS over Subversion as a result :-)

Johannes_B

:-( How to get 3 rep points?

Canageek

@Johannes_B Ask a good question and get upvoted three times?

Johannes_B

@Canageek I think a q-upvote is worth 5 rep.

@Canageek one upvote for a q, and one downvote from me to something. 5-2+6663=

Canageek

@Johannes_B Oh, EXACTLY three? Humm. Updating a wiki entry is 2. Is there a way to get 1?

Johannes_B

19:52

Got a live spammer at goLaTeX. He spams, i immedialtely delete it. Two people spending a friday night together.

Johannes_B

20:05

Something i found on the LyX homepage. didn't know that before, but i wish that all people posting online would adhere to those simple rules. albion.com/netiquette

1010011010

Any tikz gladiators around??

egreg

@DavidCarlisle Very sorry we can't battle. :P

David Carlisle

@1010011010 @egreg's only one question off a gold badge, he must be a tikz expert

1010011010

@DavidCarlisle Ahhhh so now I have leverage. Ha ha ha

barbara beeton

20:21

2

Q: have lost "interactive" view of chat; how can i get it back?

while connected to the chat on my laptop the other day (macbook pro, snow leopard, firefox), the format of the chat room suddenly changed from the "usual" format, with forward/back pointers and a list of miscellaneous stuff on the right, to a very "depleted" format with only bands the full width ...

support

Argo

Quick question: is the url package still useful when hyperref exists?

David Carlisle

@Argo hyperref includes its own version of url, but they do different things, hyperref makes links active, url allows links to break over a line

barbara beeton

well, i have failed to get any useful help on that question, and i am about to leave for a week. i will follow the goings-on here, but will be unlikely to be able to participate. have a good week, guys.

David Carlisle

@barbarabeeton are you sure you haven't the mobile site (that's what the description sounds like)

Argo

@DavidCarlisle I see, I'll load them both then, thanks

David Carlisle

20:25

@Argo makes no difference, hyperref does \RequirePackage{url}

Argo

Ah even better! I'm in the process of cooking together a new preamble for assignments (chemistry @ uni) which uses memoir instead of article.

David Carlisle

@JosephWright ?

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Tagging is rather easier: would be handy for CTAN uploads

David Carlisle

@JosephWright easier than cvs tag or svn copy ?

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Yes, but at least with svn copyyou are duplicating the entire repo rather than just marking a point

@DavidCarlisle (Have never used cvs so I don't know about that)

David Carlisle

20:33

@JosephWright no difference really (it doesn't actually copy anything) so whether it's a copy of the repository or a name for that snapshot is just a point of view.

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Huh? SVN needs to make a separate directory for each tag

David Carlisle

@JosephWright you can call it a directory if you like, and by default if you check it out it will check out to a directory but svn copy is an atomic operation that just saves an internal identifier, it doesn't involve storage proportional to the size of the repository.

Argo

/usr/local/texlive/2014/texmf-dist/tex/latex/koma-script/scrlfile.sty: LaTeX Warning: Command \InputIfFileExists has changed.

Any ideas?

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Doesn't seem to match up with my experience: if you have the entire repo checked out you have lots of directories, each of which contains files

@DavidCarlisle Then again, been a while since I did it

@Argo Example?

David Carlisle

@JosephWright yes but you don't have to check out a tag, if you check out the head and a tagged copy then it's really two copies in your checkout, but svn copy just makes an internal identifier and doesn't copy anything, it's like ln -s

@Argo my guess would be that \InputIfFileExists has changed.

Joseph Wright

20:39

@DavidCarlisle :-)

Argo

... Right

But I have no idea how it got there

egreg

@DavidCarlisle Three answers to the gold badge (two were CW).

David Carlisle

@Argo without any reproducible example, neither have we

Argo

I'm moving over to memoir for some assignments. While copying some macros, packages and stuff, it appeared. I have never used koma-script.

David Carlisle

@egreg I'm sure someone will ask a few easy tikz-cd ones to get you over the line

Argo

20:41

Not minimal, but pastebin.com/k3YH54Kv

egreg

@DavidCarlisle Didn't you like yesterday's Auslander-Reiten quiver?

David Carlisle

@egreg saw the question, didn't see any answers, was that one of yours?

egreg

Joseph Wright

@Argo Well that seems to compile just fine

David Carlisle

I got ! Undefined control sequence.
<argument> Chem\str_upper_case:f

:-)

Joseph Wright

20:44

@DavidCarlisle Out-of-date expl3

Argo

Hmm no warnings on your end?

barbara beeton

@DavidCarlisle -- it probably is, but i can't figure out how to get out of it. i certainly didn't get into it intentionally, but the state it shifted into all by itself was even worse, and i think i did try clicking on a "mobile" button to get out of that. if someone can tell me where i can find out how to reset it, i'll be immensely grateful.

David Carlisle

@JosephWright yes path mix up in my tmp directory for running mwe:-)

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle :-)

David Carlisle

@barbarabeeton should be "menu" and then "full site"

Joseph Wright

20:46

@Argo Oh, a warning

Argo

@JosephWright yep, "just" a warning. I'm just curious on why it's there and I'm slightly OCD concerning warnings in my documents.

Joseph Wright

@Argo It warns you as the redefinition might break something, but assuming it does not then all is fine

barbara beeton

@DavidCarlisle -- i do find a "menu", but no option "full site" that i remember seeing. i will try again when i'm in the same place as the laptop. thanks. (i've confessed this before -- i don't coexist well with guis. give me a nice clear command line, and a way to look for things myself, and i'll be just fine. i even hate my "smart phone" that keeps telling me "37 apps running secretly". yeccchhhh!)

David Carlisle

@Argo change your doc to look like

\show\InputIfFileExists
\documentclass[oneside, 12pt, a4paper, article]{memoir}
\show\InputIfFileExists

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Is redefined by memoir

David Carlisle

20:50

@Argo and you will see memoir has patched the command for its own reasons

Joseph Wright

> \InputIfFileExists=\long macro:
#1#2->\IfFileExists {#1}{#2\@addtofilelist {#1}\m@matbeginf {#1}\@@input \@file
f@und \m@matendf {#1}\killm@matf {#1}}.
l.2 \show\InputIfFileExists

Faheem Mitha

Does anyone know of scrlttr2 has any special support for "to" addresses?

Argo

Alright, so how do I make the warning go away?

Faheem Mitha

@Canageek No, not really. Why would you say that?

Joseph Wright

@Argo Redefine \InputIfFileExists yourself to the original form, then if you really want to alter it after loading scrfile to include both sets of changes

David Carlisle

20:52

@barbarabeeton ^^^^

@Argo It depends, you could just hack the test not to warn. but perhaps you need the warning. Some package thought it worth testing that command has not been changed, and memoir changed it so it may be the package does not work with memoir

barbara beeton

@DavidCarlisle -- thank you -- i will report.

Argo

@DavidCarlisle Ah

Johannes_B

@FaheemMitha What do you mean?

Argo

It seem it's chemmacros

Johannes_B

@Argo chemmacros uses scrlfile internally, correct.

Faheem Mitha

20:55

@Johannes_B Suppose I want to have multiple to addresses.

Does scrlttr2 have any specific support for that case?

Johannes_B

@FaheemMitha That would be multiple letters?

Faheem Mitha

@Johannes_B No, just one letter. But multiple copies to be sent to different people.

Johannes_B

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A: Using KOMA-Script packages with other classes

scrlfile Package scrlfile mostly gives powers to package authors, but a normal user can take advantage of this package as well. Suppose you want to run some code, but only if a special package is loaded. Or maybe you want to prevent to load this package after all. No problem. Feature overview ...

Faheem Mitha

I was just going to put all the to addresses at the top.

@Johannes_B I don't see the relevance.

Johannes_B

@FaheemMitha You want to address 3 different people, so 3 different letters, with the same content/body. Did i get this right?

Joseph Wright

20:58

@Johannes_B For one thing I can fine, one I'd probably not go with

Johannes_B

@FaheemMitha No relevance at all. Was for @Argo :-)

Argo

@Johannes_B Ah, so chemmacros is a package made for koma-script? Strange, I never noticed that when simply using the standard article class.

Johannes_B

@JosephWright ?

Faheem Mitha

@Johannes_B Correct. Well, one letter, with multiple copies. But with identical copies, including the addresses.

Joseph Wright

@Johannes_B Read the code :-)

Johannes_B

20:59

@Argo No, not at all. KOMA provides some packages that can be used freely. CN uses scrlfile to get some package dependencies right.

Joseph Wright

@Johannes_B Post-load patching, which I'd suggest is best done by the user at the document level with correct documentation

Faheem Mitha

To be more explicit - the letter would contain to addresses for (Mr Foo, Ms Bar. Mr. Baz) and then sent to Foo, Bar and Baz.

Argo

@Johannes_B Ah. Well, again, how do I make the warning go away?

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