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@DavidCarlisle I do not need them. the PDF file looks ok actually. So I can ignore them? I thought I need to fix this font warning.
Here is the PDF file, from the maple latex file, with that warning there. It looks ok. So I can ignore these font warnings
I just made sure to copy the MAPLE style files over to my texmf path. That is all.
I thought I need to also copy the fonts
@kan What. The. Duck.
:)
Maple latex output looks nice actually. This is Maple 18
@Nasser oh the warning you posted before is about computer modern, unrelated to the maple fonts question
@DavidCarlisle oh, I see. I thought it was because I was compiling a maple generated latex file! I really do not understand fonts at all and how they work, all magic to me :)
@Nasser don't ignore the warning, use T1 encoding (you should do that anyway, the default OT1 encoding is weird) Your monospace blocks will get out of line if characters from the symbol font are substituted
00:11
@DavidCarlisle @egreg got it. I added \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} to the Maple latex file, and now the warning went away. Here is the new PDF file. Not sure if it looks any different than the above screen shot. But now no warning. Thanks
Maple latex file should really then be using this package? it is annoying have to edit it each time and add this package to it. But ok.
@Nasser Yes, it's different. Look at the braces in the subs line
@egreg wow ! you have good eyes, do not know how to detected this. Yes, it looks better the second one (T1).
@Nasser I knew what to look for! ;-)
@egreg That's cheating. :)
@Nasser he didn't need to look:-) Note I also said before you posted the image that you would lose monospace for the substituted symbols:-)
00:23
@PauloCereda South Africa-Brazil 0:5. No penalty?
@egreg Hey! :)
00:37
@DavidCarlisle: I know you use Emacs... and don't need the auto-completion feature since you never make a mistake... but is this on topic?
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Q: Problem with yasnippet in emacs + autex

Philip LinI am newbie in emacs + auctex and trying to get familiar with auto-complete mode in editing latex. Auto-complete is a fantastic attribute, but I don't understand the follow problem: Auto-complete can help me when I use TAB \usepac \usepackage[opt1, ...]{Package} But if I regret and try ...

Or should this make its way elsewhere as a feature request/support in the editor mailing list... somewhere...?
01:04
@kan @PauloCereda This link worked here: tape.tv/musikvideos/Der-Tourist/… Once again, that’s the original from last year.
@kan @PauloCereda Oh, and read this one: businessinsider.com/edeka-commercial-supergeil-2014-2
01:44
Which you think it converting to Latex better: Mathematica: TeXForm[Cos[\[Alpha] t]] gives

\cos (\alpha t)

and Maple latex(cos(alpha*t)); gives

\cos \left( \alpha\,t \right)
 
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08:38
@HarishKumar I took the liberty of touching your \mydiv macro. There's no need to guess at the width, with \hidewidth you can flush or center an object. There's no need to use \cdot either, as a simple period works. Finally, it's \mathbin, not \mathrel. ;-)
@egreg Thank you very much. You are always free to touch and operate ;). I saw in the question that it is a relation symbol and got confused. I owe you another beer. :)
@egreg Now it is very nice. Thanks. :)
And I learnt one more trick.
@HarishKumar I also fixed the height and depth, by adding a couple of phantoms
08:59
@egreg I saw. It is actually many tricks put together. Saying thanks will be only a formality but still I say it. :)
@egreg Actually it was my first affair with \ooalign and I was bit nervous. :)
09:17
@Werner yes I saw that but don't use that particular flavour of completion . I think it's sort of marginally on topic as editor setup questions seem to be tolerated to a certain amount. OP would probably be better asking in an emacs forum though.
09:28
@DavidCarlisle or get rid of emacs. :)
@PauloCereda yes some days I like to be free of computers. But I don't think you can have a computer without emacs.
@DavidCarlisle :)
09:41
@PauloCereda See Frank's update to l3news :-)
@JosephWright Is he going to enforce Emacs as the unique LaTeX editor?
@JosephWright ooh! :)
@JosephWright GitHub's file looks the same to me. :(
I definitely missed something.
@egreg Oh no, Frank does use emacs, doesn't he?
10:11
@DavidCarlisle: bah if I double-click a .tex file in my Linux distro, the file is opened in emacs. How sad. :)
@egreg: apparently an Italian fencing athlete will defend Brazil now: Nathalie Moellhausen. Does this name ring a bell? :)
@PauloCereda I thought real linux users only ever used the console and "double clicking" was a windows thing (or have I been away from linux too long:-)
@DavidCarlisle Yep, I have my terminal opened all the time, I double-clicked the file by accident. :P
@PauloCereda Sorry, no.
@PauloCereda can't you still press F-n and get to a virtual root console not running X ?
@egreg I never heard of her, but apparently she got a golden medal somewhere. :)
@DavidCarlisle If I were in my Slackware box, I'd do that. :P
10:18
!!/battle
@PauloCereda ^^^
@DavidCarlisle ooh wait a minute.
!!/battle
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The current score is egreg 165 vs. 195 David. So far, David is winning.
ooh! :)
@PauloCereda According to Wikipedia, she won a gold medal in the World Championship in 2009 (team épée) and one in the European Championship in 2007.
@egreg Ah! :)
10:24
@PauloCereda There are several Italian fencers who won more titles than she.
10:36
@egreg We have none. :P
11:00
@PauloCereda We have some I think, but I'm not sure :D
11:16
@JosephWright: ooooooooooooooh!
11:32
Wow, this is neat! Can I name this symbol? I'd go with \dancingdiv. :)Paulo Cereda 13 secs ago
@PauloCereda wibbly wobbly, oh boy!
@tohecz :)
Yay @Frank is here!
hi folks, indeed
:set party-mode on
@SeanAllred I just saw your comment on tex.stackexchange.com/questions/45838/… can you perhaps mail me on that?
@PauloCereda only for a very short time :-) but for your info I just put your hummingbird logo into the new ltnews letter that will come out soon
11:47
@FrankMittelbach awww <3 That's the team logo, hopefully available as promotional T-Shirts on shop.latex3.org soon. :)
@PauloCereda good point
@FrankMittelbach T-shirts, mugs, scarfs, Lego. :)
at least I own latex3.org which is a start ;-)
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I have some good news for you, but I need to write a proper email. :)
@PauloCereda \usetikzlibrary{lego} :)
11:49
@PauloCereda then please do
@tohecz David's favourite library. :)
@FrankMittelbach I will, probably this weekend. :)
@PauloCereda but heck, someone could do that :)
@tohecz ooooh that sounds good! Beautifully typeset lego instructions, probably with margin notes for maths (thinking about robots,scientific stuff)
@tohecz I have one for dominos. :)
@Christoph I wonder, is IKEA using TikZ? Hmmm \usetikzlibrary{IKEA} doesn't work so probably not :p
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11:52
Maybe they just didn't publish it...
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A: Draw an aircraft with Tikz

David CarlisleIt was suggested in chat http://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/9482087#9482087 That picture mode would be the ideal tool for the job here: \documentclass{article} \begin{document} \begin{picture}(200,100) \put(30,40){\line(1,0){150}} \put(30,40){\line(0,1){60}} \put(30,100){\line(...

Who needs TikZ? :)
:set party-mode off
:set lunch-time on
@FrankMittelbach sounds like a plan ;)
btw, is "graphing paper" the official name of the paper with squares?
@tohecz I've heard it many times, Edward Tufte uses this term is his books iirc (!)
@FrankMittelbach Don't let @David know you are using vim. :)
11:58
@tohecz 'Squared paper' if there are no subdivisions, 'graph paper' otherwise
Otherwise xor will be compromised. :)
@JosephWright ok so "squared" works fine, thanks :)
@JosephWright: have you reached the level Mariachi Madness, featuring Mexican-style Eye of the Tiger?
12:18
@PauloCereda I don't! never did, never will, I'm an old emacs hack like David, I was just nice to you :-) all I know about vi (not vim) is what you need when you boot up ultrix and nothing else as an editor is available (if you're lucky)
@FrankMittelbach Oh my! :)
yeah, tough on you ;-)
@FrankMittelbach I can't wait for @David to mock me now. :)
in fact all I need fits on a nice coffee cup with the name "vi reference" so I don'T even need to remember it
@PauloCereda he knows that I use emacs, nothing new for him
@FrankMittelbach I have one of those cups nearby. :) By the way, we could come up with a L3 reference mug!
I have a printed version of interface3, it would be great to have a mug.
12:22
@PauloCereda would be difficult to decide what should get onto it
@FrankMittelbach \documentclass[5pt]{mug}
:)
@Frank: by the way, do you know that there's a L3 book in the oven? :)
ok folks need to get back to read (or rather skim) The Art of Computer Programing Vol I as an ebook
@FrankMittelbach ooh good one! :)
@PauloCereda yes, need to talk with @egreg about that
@FrankMittelbach ooh cool! :)
12:26
@PauloCereda remains to be seen, it has more flaws than TLC2 as ebook (which as you know I believe come out fairly well). So need to see if this can be corrected
@FrankMittelbach Uh-oh. I have a printed version nearby as well. :P
@PauloCereda certainly the better choice if you are into "the real thing", but milage vary
@FrankMittelbach :)
@FrankMittelbach Here I am. ;-)
@egreg Frank is in his lunch time, I guess. :)
12:45
@JosephWright You should add a LaTeX3 version of the space zapping definition macro.
@PauloCereda @egreg So after a failed attempt to have a dual-boot notebook, I contacted my dad's institute's IT service and they'll configure me that :)
13:12
@tohecz :) Which OSes?
13:29
@PauloCereda Fedora and Windows (7 or 8)
@tohecz Oh.
I think the order should be Windows then Fedora.
@PauloCereda it's a waste of effort to mock vim users
13:51
@egreg Yes, that occurred to me
@JosephWright You're late. ;-)
@egreg No, I meant that using \tl_replace_all:Nnn is non-expandable, and we should have something in expl3 (name perhaps tricky)
@JosephWright In this case it's irrelevant, as \cs_new:cpn must be used. However, a \tl_zap_spaces:n function might be useful.
@egreg Yes: I'll think about it
@DavidCarlisle Any thoughts on that?
or indeed @FrankMittelbach?
13:56
@JosephWright Or \tl_zap:nn
@JosephWright thoughts on what
@DavidCarlisle Some equivalent of \zap@space in expl3
In particular, something expandable
In a textbook should the appendix appear before or after solutions to the excersises in the book ?
@JosephWright are there really many places it would be useful? added it to 2e as a quick way to allow linebreaks after , in documentclass options but in any such use now better to use a keyval system that strips space there without destroying space in values
@N3buchadnezzar depends if the solutions are considered an appendix to the main work, or part of the main work (you see both)
@DavidCarlisle Reasonable point
14:00
@JosephWright what is useful is trimming space from either end, but just arbitrarily removing all space isn't so common (or at least so commonly useful:-) so it might be useful to extract a function that does that, separate from comma parsing
@DavidCarlisle Tough question ;-)
@DavidCarlisle \tl_trim_spaces:n already exists
@egreg well of course I (must have) know(n) that:-)
@PauloCereda I don't care, I'm going to spend likely a good amount of money the install by the company, so whatever they do, as long as it works correctly ;) (yes, and it is with warranty from them)
@tohecz :)
@DavidCarlisle <3
!!/battle
@DavidCarlisle Oh wait.
!!/battle
@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The current score is egreg 205 vs. 245 David. So far, David is winning.
@David: you little rascal. :P
Guys, once in a while do you receive any random email asking for LaTeX help?
14:43
@PauloCereda gladly not. You're probably an idol :)
@tohecz Oh no. :)
Either is an email asking for LateX help or one of those Russian models spam messages. :)
@PauloCereda I had one last year including a pile of code he wanted debugging, I sent back a curt "why send to me" message and he replied that it had my name (and pre-internet JANET email) at the top. oops:-)
@DavidCarlisle Oh my! :)
15:02
Any MiKTeX user that can debug a Type1 font problem?
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Q: Rotating Mathematical Symbols without losing quality

claudiaI need to use the symbol \subsetneq rotated by 45 degrees. I can obtain the required symbol with \rotatebox[origin=c]{45}{$\subsetneq$} or equivalently with \begin{rotate}{45} $\subsetneq$ \end{rotate} but in both cases the quality loss on the symbol is very high. Does anybody know of a b...

16:20
@DavidCarlisle that might show something about your age:-)
@tohecz I may be old but I'm not as ancient as egreg
@TheLastError You should know about that:-)
16:37
@DavidCarlisle:
paulo@alexandria texmf-dist$ grep -m 1 'Carlisle' -r . | wc -l
1520
That's the number of files in my TeX tree that have your name in it. :)
@PauloCereda I hope they are all saying something polite:-)
@DavidCarlisle Of course they are. :)
@PauloCereda 1520 files calling @David names? Whoa what did you do that made all of them angry? :D
@DavidCarlisle :-)
@tohecz :)
16:53
@PauloCereda gotta go, pal. see you later!
@tohecz See ya, buddy! :)
17:23
71 people at the first lecture of the LaTeX course
!!/battle
@egreg Psmith, the TeX bot: The current score is egreg 260 vs. 245 David. So far, egreg is winning.
:)
@egreg Watch David blame me for the bot being turned on now. :)
@DavidCarlisle And with a MiKTeX accepted answer!
18:05
I have a confusing physic problem as follows.
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Q: Where is the atmospheric pressure equal to zero?

The Last ErrorConsider the following question. My calculation is as follows. \begin{align*} P_C = P_A + \rho g h\\ P_A = P_C - \rho g h \end{align*} Because $P_C=P_0=\rho g h$ then $P_A=0$. Is it correct that the zero atmospheric pressure occurs at A? It seems to me a bit illogical because according to o...

@TheLastError Not zero pressure anywhere
Vapour pressure of liquid at A
@JosephWright So what is the value of pressure at A?
in terms of P_0
@TheLastError Assuming a vapour pressure sufficiently small that it doesn't matter here, the pressure at A is zero (i.e. space above is a vacuum)
@JosephWright But according to the quoted law, the pressure at A should be 76cmHg - .0076 cmHg which is not zero. It seems to me like a contradiction.
@TheLastError That's the atmospheric pressure pressing down on the open surface
Variation of pressure with height is only relevant if the surface is open
18:13
@JosephWright Oh I see. Thanks.
I see you now have an answer :-)
18:24
@JosephWright a pool filled with mercury. Hmmmm.
:)
18:42
@PauloCereda not random: from time to time I get emails claiming bugs in my packages where actually they have a completely different LaTeX problem not related to my packages at all. It's not on purpose, though: they actually think they found a bug :)
@paulo @joseph Quack!
@PeterGrill yes
@JasperLoy Hey Jasper! :)
@cgnieder I believe I got hit because of TeX.sx. Not that I don't want to help, but sometimes people don't try posting stuff here first. :)
Possible duplicate that needs your review:
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Q: Area between curves tikz

user2287089I am trying to plot a graph using tikz, but I can't seem to be able to highlight the areas between the curves. The result should look something like this: This is the code I have so far: \begin{center} \begin{tikzpicture}[scale=0.8] \draw[->] (0,-0.5) -- (0,4.5) node[anchor=east] {}; \draw[-

@PauloCereda I read that the next Fedora will only be out after August.
18:52
@PauloCereda on other forums I occasionally get private messages asking for help... I always tell them to ask publicly so others may benefit from answers, too
ppr
ppr
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Q: Opinion polls on SE.TeX?

pprSome questions need authoritative answer (and we like them in SE). Some others ask for alternatives and cannot be definitively answered (and we have big-list tag for them). There is a third kind of possible questions: tendency survey. These questions ask for a tendency or for the opinion of the ...

@JasperLoy Really?! Any reasons on why?
@cgnieder Oh good idea!
 
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Q: Having natbib.bst accessible on Mac OS X

AsTeRWhile running bibtex I'm getting the following error : I couldn't open style file natbib.bst I guess the problem is that bibtex can't find natbib.bst, how can I solve this problem ?

We've got a few of these natbib.bst ones!
20:45
@JosephWright The email I mentioned before was about natbib.
@PauloCereda ?
21:30
@JosephWright I got an email from a random dude asking for LaTeX help.
22:09
@PauloCereda good for you ... want a few more? I could set up a forwarding job :-)
 
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@FrankMittelbach No thanks. :) I think I'll try the Ich spreche kein Englisch approach. :)
Just a really quick one, any ideas on how to make
\sum_{j=1}^m \oint_{\partial U_k} f(z)
look nice? I tried a few variants of `mathclap`, `\mathrlap`, `\limits` and parenthesis, but nothing looked particularly appealing. Perhaps I am just tired.
@N3buchadnezzar \sum_{j=1}^m \,\oint_{\partial U_k}\! f(z)
So you are not attacked by ten angry brittish ghosts when using \! (Read David) ?
23:58
@N3buchadnezzar The command has a short name for a reason: it is useful in several situations.

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