@Dr.ManuelKuehner -- I don't think Frank has a Wikipedia page. If you're constructing one, you might start with a couple of interviews: tug.org/interviews/mittelbach.pdf and tug.org/TUGboat/tb42-2/tb131mittelbach-desouza.pdf . You might also consider scanning the list of TUGboat items he has authored: tug.org/TUGboat/Contents/listauthor.html#Mittelbach,Frank . There might also be something useful on the LaTeX Project website.

@Dr.ManuelKuehner you could ask Frank if he wants one

@DavidCarlisle and @barbarabeeton Thanks for your replies.

Hello, I just found that the page numbers of The TeXbook I have are in disorder. For example appendix A starts from page 300, but the table of contents says 305! If you have this book, could you see if yours have the same problem?

Is this a joke as said in exercise 27.5 "Find all of the lies and jokes in this manual."?

@youthdoo Which printing do you have?

Where can I see this information?

@youthdoo Mine does not. The appendix starts on the spread 304-305.

@youthdoo is your book on paper or pdf (in the latter case it is an unauthorised copy that you should delete)?

@UlrikeFischer looks like situation with perl and symlinks is somewhat windows and perl version dependent dev.to/hakonhagland/…

@DavidCarlisle Yes, but I don't quite understand why the eval which tests symlinks seems to work but then symlinks fails anyway. If that is happening then shouldn't one correct the eval instead of ignoring its result later on?

@UlrikeFischer er is "symlinks in windows are fundamentally weird and some things work and some things don't" an acceptable technical answer?

@UlrikeFischer "If that is happening then shouldn't one correct the eval" yes, or skip the eval and just set false on windows (if the OP is correct it does not work)

@DavidCarlisle if you remove the spaces so that germans understand it

@UlrikeFischer I could use a 1sp real space

@DavidCarlisle I thought yesterday too if one should declare that as the "german reflow option" ;-)

@DavidCarlisle yes, if we change that then one should change the test directly. On my machine it gives false anyway, but I can test later on win11 too.

@UlrikeFischer we could add a commandline --symlink option yes/no/auto to allow the test to be skipped and symlinks avoided

@samcarter I'm disappointed to see no fancy animals in your answer. :)

@DavidCarlisle yes, that is an option too.

@UlrikeFischer $system = "cygwin" if $^O =~ /cygwin/i; hmm I should test this I guess /cygwin64 is default on 64 bit systems......

@mickep :P I'll safe the TikZMice until the OP asks a follow up question how to use warpfig in a tcolorbox :)

@samcarter Ooh, plans!

@mickep :)

@samcarter I want to solve: not.

@Skillmon You submitted the correct answer. Congratulation :)

@DavidCarlisle Before I looked for (La)TeX books by a book searching website and found it as a pdf. How can I know if it is unauthorized?

@youthdoo The fly sheet with ISBN, etc.: very last line, mine says 33 34 35 36 37 38 DOC 09 08 07 06, for example

@youthdoo there are no authorised pdf of the TeXBook

@DavidCarlisle Oh. I'll delete this copy then.

@youthdoo the tex source of the texbook is available ctan.org/pkg/texbook but starts % The file is distributed only for people to see its examples of TeX input, % not for use in the preparation of books like The TeXbook. % Permission for any other use of this file must be obtained in writing % from the copyright holder and also from the publisher (Addison-Wesley). some people unfortunately ignore that and make a pdf ....

@DavidCarlisle s/some/evil

@Skillmon vim users, probably

@DavidCarlisle aren't evil users eMacs users who just want to experience a decent editor experience for once?

@Skillmon see what happens if people accidentally drop in to that intuitive modal editor behaviour....

Then how did this get upvote?

@youthdoo this doesn't typeset the file, it only typeset the source code.

@DavidCarlisle Overleaf's VIM mode is just a poor excuse for a real VIM and doesn't work as nicely.

@youthdoo how did brexit get an upvote? Never trust a democracy

@JosephWright perhaps you should leave a comment on this one: tex.stackexchange.com/q/670547/3929 (as a mod). Whining does not help.

@DavidCarlisle aren't you part of the demographic that predominately voted "leave"?

(don't worry, I remember the chat back then and that you didn't like the idea)

@daleif Will do

@Skillmon I'm probably part of the demographic that predominately uses Word as well, but that doesn't mean emacs isn't the one true editor

@DavidCarlisle :)

I think, for a single short project, I'd prefer to use Word to edit my TeX sources over emacs

@Skillmon if the alternative is vim, that's quite reasonable

@JosephWright are you on your smartphone??

@DavidCarlisle "over emacs"

@UlrikeFischer No, just typing badly ;)

@samcarter blame @UlrikeFischer

@JosephWright tex.stackexchange.com/questions/670533/… :-)

@DavidCarlisle for what?

@UlrikeFischer see link to @samcarter's answer in the above comment

@DavidCarlisle do I get the blame for beamer not doing it correctly or because I persuaded you to break it? ;-)

@UlrikeFischer either, both,...

@UlrikeFischer I'm not sure NewCommandCopy will handle the beamer form, but you could blame @PhelypeOleinik if not

@DavidCarlisle It would be a fun exercise to make it work with <>. Good thing @samcarter maintains beamer, and not me :)

@PhelypeOleinik Er, technically it's me ;)

@JosephWright If you want to take that blame :)

So I've managed to post three answers so far to one question ...

@JosephWright you could add a fourth and write something about l3backend ;-)

@JosephWright Clearly just rep farming.

@JosephWright @Werner @StefanKottwitz Could you please move this post: tex.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/9022/hebrew-in-lualatex to the main site?

@CarLaTeX Done

@JosephWright Thanks

@AlanMunn :)

@JosephWright but @UlrikeFischer still requested another answer from me

@DavidCarlisle YUp

@DavidCarlisle Also hoping someone mentions LuaMetaTeX ...

@JosephWright @mickep or @MarcelKrüger ...

@DavidCarlisle Indeed

@DavidCarlisle ?

@mickep "Also hoping someone mentions LuaMetaTeX"

@mickep this:

@mickep tex.stackexchange.com/questions/670578/… needs a ConTeXt-focussed anser, likely to mention LuaMetaTeX

@mickep I've already posted three answers and ConTeXt is oddly not my area

@JosephWright How many voting reversals because of serial voting will these answers cause? :)

@samcarter I did wonder about CW'ing my answers ...

@samcarter I'm sure they'll get reversed: not like I'm bothered

@UlrikeFischer Not sure that has much to actually say?

@JosephWright I'm not sure if the reversal script cares about CW or not.

More seriously, what other major topics need separate answers?

@samcarter Probably not, but if things are made CW, they don't attract rep so you don't notice

@JosephWright well I do think that a central, consistent and maintained backend (compared to all the driver files and engine dependant code spread around in packages) is quite a step forward.

@UlrikeFischer Hmm, OK, perhaps you could post that so it doesn't look like a monologue from me?

@JosephWright ok, but you are writing good monologues and blogs ;-)

@JosephWright But isn't that a LaTeX question? Wouldn't it be weird/off topic to mention ConTeXt (or luametatex) improvements? (After all, wasn't ConTeXt perfect already in 2002?)

@mickep It's a 'LaTeX & Friends' question, i.e. the scope of the site

@JosephWright Ooh, I see

I will think about it.

(Thanks for pinging)

@samcarter -- Is warpfig a new package? I'll have to try it out ... sounds like fun.

@mickep Thought you'd be better placed to post a ConTeXt answer than me ;)

@youthdoo -- When the TeXbook was written, LaTeX did not yet exist, and neither did lstlisting. The intent was that only the paper version would be fully typeset.

@barbarabeeton ups, sorry for the typo!

@JosephWright I don't know, maybe. If we look at who posts at the list, you are the more recent of us. :P

@CarLaTeX -- hmmm. I flagged that question yesterday for mod attention, requesting exactly the same thing. (Glad you got it done.)

@samcarter -- Oh, don't be sorry! I think it would be a rather fun idea.

... what's going on on the front page. Lot's of answers posted in a very short time, which on first glace look plausible, but when trying the actual code they turn out as nonsense. Are they some AI generated answers?

(SO already has a big problem with such answers meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/421831/…)

@samcarter John Smith is suspicious, indeed :D

@barbarabeeton I, too. I pinged the moderators since after a day it was still on Meta :D

@samcarter I saw increbile things done with ChatGPT

@CarLaTeX The ones I saw on StackOverflow were much worse. They had barley any connection to the question and a lot of rambling with unrelated information. I wonder if that's because the overall quality on SO is so bad and they were trained on that data set?

@JosephWright, @werner, @StefanKottwitz -- Mod.question. I run through the review queues when I log on in the morning, and rather often I flag a "low quality" answer from a newbie that should really have been a comment, but insufficient rep. Do you take care of those, or find them annoying? I guess that most other people just mark them to be deleted, but if there's confirmation that a real answer has worked, I think that's useful information.

@samcarter :D

@samcarter hm, I wouldn't care much about rambling where you easily see the nonsense, but this is rather unfair to the users. @JosephWright I think you should check this John Smith user, that looks like a bot.

@UlrikeFischer I've taken some action

@JosephWright Thanks!