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8:14 AM
@egreg Yes: long-standing question of how to cover this
 
8:32 AM
mathematician, n.:
	Some one who believes imaginary things appear right before your i's.

[paulo@cambridge ~] $
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@egreg oh my
 
8:48 AM
@PauloCereda I usually put real things before my i's. Otherwise, the result is … real!
 
@HaraldHanche-Olsen ooh :)
 
 
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9:52 AM
@DavidCarlisle You broke bigfoot.
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Q: While loading fancyvrb, siunitx and bigfoot, I got input stack size=5000, TeX STOPPED: fatal errors occurred

userIf I try to build the following document: \documentclass{memoir} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} \usepackage{fancyvrb} \usepackage{siunitx} \usepackage{bigfoot} \begin{document} Test. \end{document} Latex just throws the error: LaTeX Font Info: External font `...

 
@egreg :)
 
@JosephWright Anybody wants to report to DK? :-)
 
@egreg Mail the team list
 
@JosephWright Good idea.
 
@egreg ooh
@JosephWright ooh a cheque
 
9:57 AM
@egreg I think I sent a fix at the time....
 
@PauloCereda Not DEK, DK
 
@JosephWright oh
David Kastrup?
You could assume David Karlisle and the problem is solved. :)
 
@DavidCarlisle If the count is used like this shouldn't it better have a name?
 
@UlrikeFischer It would indeed be a good idea if those registers had a symbolic name.
 
@DavidCarlisle ooh a bug
user image
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10:30 AM
@PauloCereda How much for discovering a hidden feature?
 
@egreg 5 bucks. :)
 
@UlrikeFischer possibly (I wondered about that at the time) but it wouldn't help a lot as you mainly need it for compatibility with old code and the name is not defined there
 
yo'
10:50 AM
@PauloCereda So that's what your credit card number is supposed to be for!
 
@yo' oh no
 
 
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12:58 PM
Anyone know if it is possible to get pdfcrop to keep PDF meta data in the cropped PDF? Things like author etc seems to get lost. (I'm misusing PDF meta data in a project, and wanted to add the meta data from the LaTeX side instead of post processing, but they do now survive pdfcrop)
 
yo'
@daleif you can extract the data using pdftk and readd them using thr same software I think
 
yo'
1:13 PM
@PauloCereda Sorry, I needz teh money for Xmas
@PauloCereda My project is very complex; it has a real and also an imaginary part. However, I do not multiply the imaginary part or that would turn out negative.
 
@yo' That is what I'm currently doing, I could just save the pdftk pass since I can set the data in non-cropped PDF via hyperref.
 
yo'
@daleif I believe this is the optimum, bash-scripted of course.
 
@yo' I'm teaching myself python, so is using this as a project
 
2:07 PM
Is there any way to silence luaoftload? I've already used fontspecs silent option, but is still getting a lot of luaotfload | resolve : sequence of 3 lookups yielded nothing appropriate
 
2:19 PM
@daleif Did you try the silence package?
 
2:30 PM
@daleif I don't think you can silence them, at least not from the LaTeX side.
 
2:43 PM
@AlanMunn: I am writing a paper with a friend who works with NLP. I am getting crazy with those things! :)
Some sort of noun syntagma...
 
@egreg Oh right, I was too quick there. It's not a package he wants to silence, after all. So the question is if there's a place to hook into with lua code.
 
@PauloCereda Don't get sucked into the statistical morass.
 
@AlanMunn nah, I am counterattacking by solving syntactic analysis with macros. Take that, NLP people! :D
 
 
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3:54 PM
@PauloCereda my brother just gave me this link, you can test your English... buzzfeed.com/jenthomas/can-you-speak-nottinghamshire
@barbarabeeton you might want to try as well ^^ see how you get on with real English.
 
@DavidCarlisle ^^
 
@PauloCereda I only got 12:-) (My brother claims he got 15, obviously I'm the posher part of the family)
 
@DavidCarlisle LOL
@DavidCarlisle: your brother is median.
@DavidCarlisle: so you are mean. :)
 
Jun 29 at 16:15, by Paulo Cereda
@DavidCarlisle you are not mean :)
 
@DavidCarlisle oh
Aye up me duck
 
4:08 PM
@DavidCarlisle @PauloCereda shouldn't feel so bad. I got 6 too. But I blame it on the awful attempt to 'spell' the pronunciation.
 
@AlanMunn yes that's what makes it hard (even for a local) I assume they just made up the spelling (as you never write that stuff down)
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes, and unless there's a concerted effort at some sort of standardization (as has happened for Scots) it's generally going to turn out a disaster.
 
@AlanMunn some local words you would write down (nesh for feeling cold or mash for brewing tea) but most of the others I only got by trying to read it in a fake monty python four Yorkshiremen accent:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Orthographic representation of non-standard speech is fraught with difficulties anyway (although this one is obviously well intentioned). But sometimes you see in the media things being represented as 'dialect' pronunciation when in fact they're simply being used to imply some sort of class or race bias.
@DavidCarlisle That's sort of what I did too, but my closest approximation was a bit further north. :)
 
4:25 PM
@AlanMunn I grew up in Nottinghamshire and still have a sufficiently Northern accent that @barbarabeeton can't understand spoken English, but I never actually used most of the really strong dialect they are hinting at there.
 
@DavidCarlisle I can understand you. :)
Except for the TeX stuff. :)
 
@PauloCereda but I speak very slowly and simply because you are from foreign parts, and are not a natural linguist like what Alan and I is.
 
@DavidCarlisle oh
 
@PauloCereda I think my Portuguese grammar is better than my English:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes, that's not surprising. My father had a mechanic from Glasgow who worked for him and although my parents were both from Glasgow themselves, they sometimes had a hard time understanding him (not accent wise or course, but expressions he had that they didn't have.)
 
4:28 PM
@DavidCarlisle :)
 
@DavidCarlisle Channeling Ali G?
 
@DavidCarlisle, @AlanMunn ^^
 
yo'
@PauloCereda speaking of scots ... I'm just about to order two new whiskies into my collection :-)
 
@yo' ooh which ones?
 
yo'
@PauloCereda oh three, actually:
Isle of Jura Prophecy
Auchentoshan Three Wood
Oban Little Bay
 
4:32 PM
@yo' oh I don't know any of them. :(
 
yo'
@PauloCereda that's quite possible, I buy single malts and there's about a hundred of distilleries in Scotland...
@PauloCereda I started a habit of whisky tasting parties last Xmas and I'm gonna continue this year :) and since some people visited last year and will be there this year as well, I have to bring in new stuff :)
@PauloCereda Do you wanna join in? :)
 
@yo' ooh
@yo' I don't think ducks can drink. :)
 
yo'
@PauloCereda oh c'mon, and they can also fly long distances if they are wild enough :-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Early on during my time in Notts I was convinced one of my colleagues was being totally rude, only much later did I realize he said what up my duck
@PauloCereda I think I know why you like @DavidCarlisle people from nottinghamshire say duck instead of dear
 
@StrongBad quack? :)
 
yo'
4:40 PM
@StrongBad you make me wanna visit Britain for longer time even more than before...
The only thing I dunno is how bad it's to drive on left
 
@yo' it's perfectly normal (but easier if you do it in a car designed for normal roads)
 
@yo' I don't know, I haven't drive in over a decade. Crossing the street can be a challenge, but in the city many of the streets are one way.
 
yo'
@DavidCarlisle I would rent a car probably, I wouldn't dare coming with my car because you can't really see much when you sit on the wrong side. Also, it would be auto transmission as you've got the gear stick on the wrong side :D
 
@yo' the little I drove, the biggest problem I had was shifting (either up or down) from 3rd. I was almost guaranteed to put it in the wrong gear and I could never find reverse.
it is also more accurate to say that they do not have the gear stick on the right side.
 
We need cars with the driving wheel in the middle
 
yo'
4:46 PM
@StrongBad I see what you did here
@PauloCereda and two gear sticks!
 
@yo' ooh
beep beep
 
@yo' Where you understand the advantage of a motorbike.
 
yo'
@PauloCereda lol
@egreg yeah, especially given the UK weather
 
@yo' Real bikers don't even feel the rain.
 
yo'
@egreg and real programmers use the butterfly effect, right? :D
 
4:51 PM
@yo' Mandatory xkcd ^^^^^^
 
yo'
@egreg indeed
 
@yo' Real bikers use emacs, that's well known. ;-)
 
@yo' Curious fact about English: contraction of it is is impossible when there is ellipsis of the phrase after 'be'. So you can say "It's hard to drive on the left" but you can't say "I wonder how hard it's to drive on the left". Similarly you can say "I wonder where he's going" but you can't say "I wonder where he's".
 
yo'
@AlanMunn I know, it's a chat thingy, I would never pronounce it
I also tend to write it'sn't
 
@AlanMunn The correct sentence would be “It's hard to drive on the wrong side of the road”.
 
4:56 PM
@egreg Surely it's easy to drive on the wrong side of the road, but the consequences of doing so may be dangerous.
@yo' Then there's no hope for you. :)
 
Why did the road cross the chicken.. oh wait
 
yo'
@AlanMunn :)
 
@egreg when dealing with Brits, I find not right to be much more effective than wrong
 
The queen is the only person in the UK who is not required to have a driver's license
 
@PauloCereda from which I deduce my son is the Queen
 
5:00 PM
@DavidCarlisle I probably should have rephrased my sentence better. :)
> All 5,300 breeding pairs of mute swan in Britain are officially owned by the Queen.
Phew, we ducks are saved
 
@PauloCereda Are you sure? You might have royal protection from being dinner.
 
@AlanMunn ooh @DavidCarlisle ^^
 
@PauloCereda anyway are you coming to the wedding?
 
@DavidCarlisle I don't have any savings. :)
@AlanMunn, @DavidCarlisle ^^
 
@DavidCarlisle Every subject is invited, of course.
 
 
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6:51 PM
/psmith you awake?
bad bot, lazy bot
 
@percusse ooh hold on
!!/help
!!/help
 
Yay, someone wants to change % from a comment sign to some ordinary character (here).
 
7:10 PM
@TeXnician Changing only % won't solve all problems. href handles also # and ~ and more. Like any other verbatim one should better not use it in an argument unless you really know how to handle all the catcode changes.
 
@UlrikeFischer You're right. But I don't think it's a wise decision.
 
@TeXnician what do you mean by "it"?
 
@UlrikeFischer Changing the category codes of nearly every TeX special character.
 
@TeXnician And whose decision?
 
@UlrikeFischer The one of the OP linked in my chat post: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/403764/…
 
7:25 PM
@yo' -- unless you're taking your own car, in britain get a car with a great big "L" posted on the rear. that means "learner", and locals will steer clear of you. (sure saved me!)
@StrongBad -- given the propensity of locals (or confused visitors) to ignore one-way street signs, i find it advisable to look both ways, regardless. in england and bermuda, it turns out to be especially valuable.
@egreg -- still may not save you on roundabouts.
 
yo'
8:16 PM
@barbarabeeton I could put the sticker on my own car too and removr
@barbarabeeton I could put the sticker on my own car too and remove it afterwards
 
@yo' I read that the amount of rain falling in London is less than in Paris...
 
8:31 PM
hi to everybody
 
yo'
@Skillmon thats possible, in Paris it's raining.basically every day during the winter season
 
@yo' yeah, but in London it's raining always
 
8:49 PM
@barbarabeeton Turning right in roundabouts would be an experience
 
9:01 PM
@DavidCarlisle you haven't used google translate enough to read hebrew?
 
yo'
9:21 PM
@egreg surely Britons are more used to Europeans getting it left than how Europeans are used to Britons getting it right...
 
@AGoldMan no, not if it's foggy
 
@Skillmon to be fair, I went to England once, and I caught it during the one sunny weekend of the year
so it's not ALWAYS
 
@AGoldMan כן כמובן.
 
@AGoldMan me, too. Never saw rain while I was in London. Nor in Winchester. (But in Ireland... So the Irish do only have rain?)
 
@barbarabeeton but then avoid motorways unless you want to get arrested, and make sure you have a responsible looking adult in the passenger seat
 
9:33 PM
@DavidCarlisle hey, can you detect what language this is? תרי פילי הוו באמבטיא. אמר חד לחבריה: הב לן הצפון. ענה חבריה ואמר: לית צפון, רדיו!
it's not hebrew, by the way
 
@AGoldMan it's near enough to know it's about elephants on the north bank:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle not quite. It's the elephants in the bathtub joke in Talmudic Aramaic
 
@AGoldMan yes it got the bathtub part as well: translate.google.com/#iw/en/…!
 
yo'
@PauloCereda So I ordered the whiskies. I'm afraid it's the very last thing I bought for this Christmas :D
 
@DavidCarlisle I think google translate is much funnier than the joke
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9:36 PM
@AGoldMan :-)
 
@yo' the year whiskyshop.com open in my town was the easiest, funnest, and most expensive x-mas shopping I have ever done.
 
yo'
@StrongBad twas similar for me when I discovered that giving people good bottles is nice.
 

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