TeX, LaTeX and Friends - 2014-02-27

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9:02 AM

Hi guys, Some one just called me drunk :(

@HarishKumar :-) That would only be ok if you are.

@Johannes_B But I never drink alcohol :( But I am not upset :)

@HarishKumar Some people can't stand others to be in a good mood.

@Johannes_B Hehe, That is true. The Op asks a very badly phrased question. I try to answer, he downvotes me and further says that I don't know english or I am drunk or I am slow. Punch line is as he said - "You are just wasting my time"! :)

Who is wasting time? is the real question. I think I should mind my day time business for today (at least) :)

9:28 AM

@HarishKumar Happened to all of us i think. I a questioner is setting me in a real bad mood, i make him aware, that he may choose between my (or our) help. Or personal support for serious money.

@HarishKumar But it's not worth it, i think. Relax and keep calm is the best way to stay healthy.

@Johannes_B You are right. I am still here hehe :)

Hi @Harish! Don't get upset, the OP is like a cloud: when he disappears, it's a brighter day. :)

@HarishKumar Some people tend to think that a magic spell such as tcolorbox would solve all their problems; ignoring the fact that line breaking is completely different from page breaking. You helped that user by pointing to a working solution to a problem and received a “peculiar thank you”. :( Just ignore.

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As Mark Twain put it, “Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”

@egreg: ooh Gonzalo is now using L3 too! :)

@egreg So very true.

@PauloCereda Thanks, I am not upset. There isn't any cloud here in Pondicherry ;)

9:41 AM

@HarishKumar Did this guy downvote you?

@egreg Thank you for the nice words and the quote. Really good. I have already come out of it. :)

@PauloCereda Yes, but that is OK. It happens. :)

yay

@Utkarsh Yay, Your name sounds Indian. Hi.

Yay!

@PauloCereda Yay! Yay!

9:47 AM

@egreg Yay!

@David Yay!

@Christoph Yay!

@PauloCereda But why? Any good news?

@HarishKumar I have absolutely no idea. :) I'm just going with the flow. :)

@PauloCereda hehe! That is a good practice. :)

@PauloCereda I just had the lunch and enjoying my free time (which will be for another half an hour). How about you?

@HarishKumar hello :)

@HarishKumar I'm writing a paper for 3 days nonstop. :P

9:52 AM

@HarishKumar yes, i'm indian ;P

and i think you too

@HarishKumar By the way, is there a meaning in the name “Harish“? My name comes from German and it means “home ruler”. Several kings and emperors had the same name, actually one of them is a saint (he's buried in one of the most beautiful churches I know, it's in Bamberg).

@egreg harish is the name of the indian God, lord Krishna and Lord Shiva

@Utkarsh Wow, not an easy name to have, then. :)

@egreg lol

My name probably relates to ducks. :)

10:07 AM

@Utkarsh Hi You are right. I am from Pondicherry (basically from Mangalore)

@PauloCereda Yay! :)

@PauloCereda Really!. But three days is too less. I have seen people doing it for months ;)

@egreg Hari=Lord Vishnu and Eesha=Lord Shiva. So I am equivalent to two gods ;)

BTW, Krishna and Vishnu are equivalent, names of same god.

@egreg But I have it you know, that makes me a tough guy ;)

ooh Paulo means \small!

:)

@PauloCereda Quack!

@HarishKumar Yay!

@egreg: there's a lot of isomorphisms in India, apparently. :)

10:12 AM

@egreg So you are a ruler. Good name and more suitable one for you :)

@PauloCereda What! Is that true or you are joking? Paulo=\small?

@HarishKumar Apparently, it's true. Probably Latin, I guess. :)

\let\paulo\small

@PauloCereda \let\paulo\HUGE^{\infty}

@HarishKumar o.O

No way. :)

@PauloCereda Yes, the root is the same as that of paucus (few)

@egreg Oh! :)

10:22 AM

@PauloCereda You surely know that the Apostle Paul was originally named Saul (like the king).

@egreg Yes, that one I know. :)

More expl3 registrations incoming :-)

I look forward to having @egreg's book to point at for tips

@PauloCereda A possible explanation is that he wanted to be considered “the least of the Apostles” (in Greek, Παῦλος means the same as in Latin).

@egreg Ah!

@JosephWright No peeking!

:)

@egreg: Joseph wants to peek your book! Don't let him!

ooh isn't that magician that tells the secrets?

I'm scared!

hello, i want to write something like this but i dont know how

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10:37 AM

@egreg: uh-oh, fncychap!

@PauloCereda Shhhh.

@Vrouvrou Hi, welcome to ~~the jungle, we have fun and games!~~ the TeX chatroom!

thank you ^_^

yay

Yay!

10:41 AM

Yay!!

can you help me ?

\documentclass{book}

\usepackage[Rejne]{fncychap}

\begin{document}

\chapter{Hello world}

Hello world.

\end{document}

how?

@Vrouvrou: ^^

Now I need to do another item from my checklist: in ginocchio sui ceci :)

@egreg: ^^

:)

@PauloCereda You said it.

10:44 AM

@egreg :)

@PauloCereda Next time you'll reveal you're writing a paper with the-program-I-don't-mention-the-name-of.

@PauloCereda thank you

@PauloCereda \peek_meaning:NTF \__egreg_book: :-)

@egreg That won't happen, I swear. :)

@JosephWright ooh sneaky!

:)

@egreg But alas I have it installed in my Mac.

2 hours later…

12:56 PM

Why does this not work if I remove the \x from the loop code? What can I do to 'use' the \x without outputting it?

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{pgffor}
\begin{document}
\begin{enumerate}
\foreach \x in {1,...,10}{\item \x}
\end{enumerate}
\end{document}

What do people make of tex.stackexchange.com/questions/162703/…?

@AlanMunn It's the list that's the issue

@AlanMunn You need to have something after the \item: try just \foreach \x in {1,...,10}{\item a} for example

@AlanMunn Will track down why :-)

@JosephWright Hmm. Ok. But if I just make a list with a bunch of \item\item\item that works. (Which is exactly what I want to do, in fact.)

@AlanMunn \item\leavevmode

@tohecz Aha! Thanks, that does the trick.

@AlanMunn yw

1:19 PM

@JosephWright: get Rayman Legends. :)

@PauloCereda Will look today (have a little spare cash)

@JosephWright Yay!

1:37 PM

Hi, can this question tex.stackexchange.com/questions/162625/… be migrated back to stackoverflow?

@Christoph Not at the moment, it seems (just tried)

@JosephWright Ok, thanks. Do you know if its possible in principle? Or can't a question be "unmigrated"?

@Christoph Will have to ask

This song is my new ringtone.

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Q: \thanks in IEEEtran adds an extra page

When I use "\thanks" in IEEEtran, an extra page including a "1" at the top left corner appears before the first page. Here is a MWE: \documentclass[english]{IEEEtran} \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} \usepackage[latin9]{inputenc} \usepackage{babel} \begin{document} \title{Title Title Title Title Title} ...

Is "Don't thank anybody then." a valid answer? :)

2:13 PM

@PauloCereda well, this is one of the cases, when RTFM is the valid answer

Who has Microsoft Word 2013 installed? I need your help to convert microsoft.com/en-pk/download/details.aspx?id=7029 to PDF such that I can view in my machine without Word. :-)

@TheLastError well, would google docs do? or any online convertors?

@tohecz I have no google doc :-)

@tohecz: I think it will help me freepdfconvert.com.

@TheLastError yeah, one of these

@tohecz :P

2:45 PM

Hi, I tried to vote to migrate the question tex.stackexchange.com/questions/162213/… to stackoverflow, but that site doesn't appear as option, only meta.TX. Why is it sometimes possible to suggest a site for migration and sometimes not?

@Christoph there's no way to mark it for migration. Just cast an Off-Topic vote and write in the comments that it should be migrated.

@Christoph Flag it: one of the reasons is "It needs moderators' attention"

Ok, did it.

3:14 PM

@egreg I hope he doesn't say yes to your question: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/162733/…

@Johannes_B I too.

interesting Q and good case for LaTeX

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Q: producing embossed tactile graphics with Tikz for blind student

I work at disability services at a university and recently started working with a completely blind student in upper level computer theory, automaton, and programming classes. I learned Latex about 3-4 weeks ago per the student's request so that the student could get the notes in that form and co...

tikz-pgf graphics pdf

3:33 PM

@texenthusiast I was confused as I looked up tiger embosser and it seemed to say it was a Braille printer which wasn't what I expected for showing the output graphics?

@DavidCarlisle it's capable of printing reliefs as well

3:54 PM

well, not reallz reliefs, just "up and black" or "down and white"

hi folks, how can I know which badge should I have to pursue based on my current progress?

@TheLastError what do you mean? like in which of them you're close to getting them?

@TheLastError You could open with .doc with Libreoffice or OpenOffice

@tohecz: In other words, which badges should I seriously consider first because they are near the limit to be gold?

I cannot see the statistic of my progress which ones are converging to gold.

Do you understand what I meant?

@texenthusiast conversion problem has been solved. :-)

@TheLastError Yes How close I am towards nearest gold or silver badge progress bar statistic is missing I think, but you may be see tex.stackexchange.com/help/badges

4:03 PM

@TheLastError ah, well, here, you have the statistics of answer upvotes and questions and answers posted (together). That gives a rough idea (the problem is that you can't get to know how many of them are answers, the vote coutns are correct:

tex.stackexchange.com/users/19356/the-last-error?tab=tags

@tohecz Which badge are close to be a gold, silver or etc.

@TheLastError Look at this one from my profile

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This means I have 2000+ votes on answers to questions tagged tex-core and I have 190 answers in that tag. The gold badge is assigned with 200 answers and at least 1000 upvotes.

@egreg OK. Understood. Thank you.

@TheLastError For the silver badge, 80 answers and 400 votes.

@egreg I believe it means you have 190 posts (Q+A), it's only that you happen to kame the numbers coincide :)

4:09 PM

@tohecz Really? Well, I should post questions in that tag, then. No, I won't.

Does a dirty trick work? I mean if I want to get a gold in PSTricks (for example) quickly, I add pstricks tag for each question in which I got voted up.

@TheLastError Please don't, unless the question is actually about PSTricks and the tag is missing.

@TorbjørnT. :-)

@TheLastError you can do that, but 1) you don't quite have the rep just now :p and 2) remember that for such tweaks, mods can slap you on your hands ;)

@tohecz :-)

But I am not sure whether editing tag will work. We should me a try I think. :-)

It is time to go.. :-)

4:24 PM

Guys, if I use $G : Q_R \mapsto P$ instead of $G \colon Q_R \mapsto P$ I get a space before :. Which one do you prefer?

@egreg I see the same as @egreg that the number counts answers (so is a reliable badge indicator)

@DavidCarlisle Try asking a question and we'll see.

@PauloCereda \colon

@egreg how?

@egreg Grazie.

@DavidCarlisle I'm told that somewhere there's a button to click. Never found it. You're more expert in HTML than I.

4:36 PM

@TheLastError This show both the correct number of non-CW answers and the correct number of upvotes: data.stackexchange.com/tex/query/171386/…

4:56 PM

@tohecz I see I answer too few questions to get any gold badges for a long time

@JosephWright well, I had to fork a query, since the badges are really about answers, and all the queries ingore that

@JosephWright lots of votes, not enough posts :p

@tohecz Yes: I have a pretty good answer-to-vote ratio

@JosephWright quite :) and 55% acceptance rate!

@JosephWright get enough votes on the answers and you get gold anyway (just make sure your answers don't contain any TeX, that puts people off)

@DavidCarlisle :-)

5:37 PM

This is a good question.

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Q: Suggest a "nice" font family for my basic LaTeX template (text and math)

My goal is to choose a "nice" font family (serif, sans serif, monospace, and "math") for my basic LaTeX template. I know the default setting (Computer Modern's family) is a very good choice. However, I want something a bit less "by default", a bit less "used by everyone else"... Also, I would li...

Has anyone else here experimented with different fonts?

@DavidCarlisle Drat, beat me to it!

@JosephWright I had a feeling I was racing you or egreg:-)

@DavidCarlisle :-)

@DavidCarlisle Every DTX question we get seems to reference my blog :-)

@JosephWright presumably your blog should have been clearer so people didn't need to ask:-)

@DavidCarlisle Presumably

5:46 PM

@JosephWright You should give an l3doc answer and try to steal the tick

6:32 PM

@DavidCarlisle Englishmen don't fight, do they? I thought you guys discuss issues with tea.

- Listen, my good fellow: your attempt to steal my green tick is an event of nightmarish proportions and whatnot.
- Quite.

Man I wish I were an Englishman.

@PauloCereda And drive on the wrong side of the road?

7:04 PM

@egreg That would be awesome. :)

Being a leftie myself, I tend to naturally go to the left. :P

7:33 PM

@PauloCereda ping

7:46 PM

@egreg as I think I mentioned before, we don't drive on the wrong side.

@tohecz pong. :)

@PauloCereda sorry, I was tidying up, and every time I do that my internet connection gets unstable (the French tel. plugs are simply stupid)

@tohecz Nah don't worry. :) Sorry for my absence, I was away for a brief moment. :)

(that good moment when both parties feel sorry :) )

8:53 PM

PGF 3.0 has showed up on CTAN I see.

9:04 PM

user image

9:19 PM

@TorbjørnT. Anyone using it yet?

@FaheemMitha There's been questions on the site already, so some people have been using it for a while.

9:34 PM

@TorbjørnT. Ok.

10:32 PM

@egreg What are you going to do with it?

@Werner I'll cash it, of course.

@egreg tell me you're joking :)

@tohecz There was a column on TUGboat, I'm trying to find it

10:48 PM

@egreg I don't think a bank teller would know what to do with 1 hexadecimal dollars.

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