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12:02 AM
@PauloCereda but it was pretty painful for anyone involved :) I'll definitely think twice before interacting with him again
 
12:20 AM
@PauloCereda I'd love to see an interview with @JosephWright, great idea :)
 
12:39 AM
@cmhughes We can lure him. :)
@JosephWright: see the starred message! People have spoken, they want you! :)
 
 
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3:36 AM
@KannappanSampath Well, there is no need to register, but if you like him you can comment to that effect.
 
4:17 AM
@egreg Thanks @egreg. Good to know that my installation is not corrupt. AM having other problems as well, so have temporarily resorted to TeXLive2011.
 
5:03 AM
@PauloCereda Ok, let's star-elect this! @PauloCereda: can we interview you for the next TeXtalk?
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5:25 AM
Moderator help needed. @JosephWright . Please help me when you are around in the chat.
 
5:46 AM
@Joseph I need some technical help.
(related to stack exchange.)
How do I contact you privately?
 
@KannappanSampath What's up
@KannappanSampath You can always e-mail me (joseph.wright@morningstar2.co.uk)
 
6:04 AM
@JosephWright Mail Sent. Thank you for your time.
@JosephWright Not something urgent. But, very important.
 
6:41 AM
Hello everybody!
 
@tohecz Yo!
 
@tohecz Hi!
 
7:39 AM
@PeterGrill I've uploaded the fix for imakeidx yesterday
 
8:21 AM
@lockstep: Why did you accept the answer? Did you finish your testing?
 
8:44 AM
@MarcoDaniel No, I'll do further testing (especially if/when you add other entry types). But as the question turned indeed out to be a feature/package request, I felt that acceptance was warranted as soon as there was a working trad-plain style.
@MarcoDaniel If you think that accepting your answer may put off potential testers because they think the styles are already finished, I can revoke my acceptance for now.
 
@lockstep I think so.
 
Hi all
 
@MarcoDaniel Okay, unaccepted.
 
Did some of you see this question? tex.stackexchange.com/questions/70385/…
 
9:03 AM
@MarcoDaniel I didn't spot anything incorrect in your styles. (I thought that trad-abbrv was missing the abbreviation of editions to "ed.", but that's indeed also the behaviour of abbrv.bst.)
The only exception is that biblatex doesn't cope with field formats like month = "1~" # jan.
 
@StephanLehmke Me? It's so soon, better later. :)
 
9:29 AM
@MarcoDaniel: can TeX.sx sponsor you in the marathon? :) We can advertise in your T-shirt. :)
For exemplo, "Do you think I run fast? You need to check out the LaTeX3 performance!" :)
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10:01 AM
@PauloCereda I am back from my today's jogging. My face looks like a red tomato. I will wear a tex-sx shirt. After this I will upload the foto ;-)
 
@MarcoDaniel ooh, please do it! :)
How many km a day? :)
 
@MarcoDaniel You might want to edit out/correct the "sorting" description in your answer: The sorting is different for the various styles, and it's author -- title -- year for plain.
 
Dear mods, could you fix the typo in the starred message? I wrote exemplo instead of example (it's 'example' in Portuguese). :P
 
@PauloCereda Depends on the day. Yesterday was a short round 4km -- it's for relaxing the muscles. Today I run 12km and I am sweating like a pig
@lockstep I will do after I get a shower ;-)-- We will fix it ;-)
 
@MarcoDaniel I think I'm more for a sprint than a marathon. :)
 
10:05 AM
@PauloCereda the half of a half marathon ;-)
 
10:15 AM
The zref package is really nice. Just implemented auto grid typesetting with this (after quotation environment for now, but more will follow). After the second run, the following text is aligned on the grid.
first image = first run, second image = second run. See the regular text "Dies", it aligns itself nicely on the line.
 
@MarcoDaniel I'll hire some TeX cheerleaders to encourage you during the race. :) "Give us a M, an A, an R, a C, and an O! M-A-R-C-O!!!! siunitx, imakeidx, biblatex, all in a knowledge base, xparse, tikz, pstricks, po-po-po-ker face, \expandafter's, \newcommand's, a bunch of \space, go Marco, let's win this race!"
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@PauloCereda LOL AWESOME
 
@MarcoDaniel Now you must win the marathon, for the good TeX people around the world. :P
 
@lockstep Done
@lockstep fixed
 
10:35 AM
@MarcoDaniel You still need to correct the "Modifications" section.
 
@lockstep Why do you think it doesn't work. The result of the input "1" or "jan" is January
@PauloCereda: Can you provide a small script which do the following inside the terminal:
 
@MarcoDaniel It is "1 January" (including the day) with plain.bst.
 
Let me exlaine: In all cbx and bbx files I have the lines:
\def\biblatextradversiondate{2012/09/02}
\ProvidesFile{trad-unsrt.bbx}[\biblatextradversiondate]
 
@MarcoDaniel hm?
 
No I want a script (ssh or lua or perl)
which do the following:
print the date in the terminal
read the new date and replace it inside all files
Maybe I can avoid the definition of biblatextradversiondate and manipulate the optional argument directly \ProvidesFile{trad-unsrt.bbx}[\biblatextradversiondate]
@PauloCereda: Finished ;-) Do you know what I mean?
 
10:40 AM
@MarcoDaniel Almost. :) Which date should we replace?
 
@PauloCereda The current one is:
\ProvidesFile{trad-unsrt.bbx}[2012/09/08]
Now I want to run the script:
$ scriptname
Current date is: 2012/09/08
Input the new date: MY INPUT IS: 2012/09/09
the date was replaced
 
@MarcoDaniel Oh! Hold on! :)
 
@lockstep I confused: Can you explain it please -- bring me back to the route ;-)
 
@MarcoDaniel Have a close look at the ouptut of the @book entry with plain.bst. It's not only the month, but also the day. This is done by month = "1~" # jan, in the .bib file.
 
@lockstep Now I see what you mean.
All other issues were fixed. I am sure we will handle this too ;-)
The first mdframed question with a bounty ;-)
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Q: How this shading effect would be applied to an mdframed environment?

agodemarI'd like to apply the following shading effect proposed in " Fake sheet effect " as a background for a mdframed environment. How can this be achieved?

 
11:23 AM
import glob
import re

newDate = input('New date: ')
extensionsToAnalyze = ('*.dtx', '*.bbx', '*.tex')
filesToReplace = []
for selectedExtension in extensionsToAnalyze:
    filesToReplace.extend(glob.glob(selectedExtension))
for currentFile in filesToReplace:
    print('Processing file ' + currentFile + '...')
    inputHandler = open(currentFile, 'r')
    newOutput = []
    for line in inputHandler:
        pattern = re.search('\\\\ProvidesFile{(.*)}\\[(.*)\\]', line)
        if pattern:
            print(' - from ' + pattern.group(2) + ' to ' + newDate)
@MarcoDaniel: Save as marcoawesomescript.py.
Run it inside your work directory with your files. Have backups. :)
 
@PauloCereda Have backups is a typical programmer warning ;-) -- Thanks I will try it later.
 
Exact duplicate:
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Q: Reduce spacing between items

researcherPlease, how can I reduce spacing between items ? \begin{itemize} \item[\textbullet] first \item[\textbullet] second \item[\textbullet] third \end{itemize}

 
11:53 AM
@MarcoDaniel Backups? :) It's far funnier to test things without them. :D
 
12:09 PM
Hi @Paulo
I am becoming your fan... :-)
 
@KannappanSampath 'ello! :)
@KannappanSampath Oh no! :) What did I do this time? :)
 
@PauloCereda Your novel idea of cheerleading Marco to win the race! :-)
Awesome!
 
@KannappanSampath It's all part of the plan. :) There's also a plan where Patrick and Stefan will be in strategic parts of the course sabotaging other competitors. :)
 
@PauloCereda Unfair... No? :-))
 
@KannappanSampath A bunch of \expandafter's is not fair either, so we are somehow even. :P
 
12:18 PM
Heh, I did not get it,
 
@KannappanSampath Neither did I. :)
 
OK. Paulo, btw, you got me started into learning Python, you know? :-)
 
@KannappanSampath Really? :) Python is not my cup of tea, but it's a fantastic language. :)
 
Coffee addict
 
@percusse <3
 
12:23 PM
I am reading Kent Lee's Programming Fundamentals (via Python).
 
I have to agree with master Brent once again
Feb 25 at 23:23, by Brent.Longborough
TeeHee, Rapidly coming to the conclusion that the best place to put \usepackage{hyperref} is just after \end{document}.
 
@percusse Truer words were never spoken. :)
 
@PauloCereda Right now, 100 pages 6 warnings 1 bad boxes not bad. :)
 
@percusse Witchcraft! :D
 
12:28 PM
@percusse if I may, 100 pages of what? :-)
 
One of them is the scary You are using caption package with the memoir class. This may cause unexpected death of kittens...
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@KannappanSampath Sure my PhD thesis.
 
@KannappanSampath percusse's quick intro to LaTeX. :)
 
Hmmm ... ?
Well. OK.
 
@PauloCereda First thing to do is to relax. Release the mouse slowly and at each breath repeat after me, I won't use MS Word, ever again. Now hold the mouse slowly and click on Emacs once. Then press Del
 
@percusse LMAO
 
12:31 PM
I tried your TeXprinter @Paulo.
 
@percusse: I'm afraid @David will probably stop talking with us. :D
@KannappanSampath Oh! :)
 
@KannappanSampath I'm using memoir class for my thesis. I've cooked up a page style that is giving me warnings at chapter headings and bunch of other stuff. That's the current report for my compilation.
 
But, the .tex file is just untraceable. :(
@percusse I see. I wish you luck with your thesis.
 
What happened?
 
@KannappanSampath Thanks. I need a lot of it.
 
12:33 PM
@percusse I wish I had learnt memoir when I wrote mine. I used book with a preamble bigger than the sun itself. :)
 
@PauloCereda I don't know where the file that TeXprinter printed.
 
@KannappanSampath The same level as the texprinter.jar file. :)
 
@PauloCereda \usepackage{all} :)
 
with what name?
 
@percusse ooh epic package inclusion. Plus a fried chicken. :)
 
12:34 PM
@PauloCereda I guessed this, though. :)
 
@KannappanSampath The thread ID. :)
 
@PauloCereda Hmm, I see.
 
@PauloCereda My girlfriend told me to draw something using thumb indices such that a picture appears when the book is closed :) Then I've put an animated cartoon at the corner of the page playing snake :) I think I'm procrastinating but I'm not sure.
 
@percusse Dude, you are my hero. Seriously. <3
Please do it.
 
@PauloCereda I'll send it to you when I'm done with it. But I hope my supervisor doesn't go Let's see....Prrrr(page noise?)....WTF?
 
12:43 PM
@percusse LOL
 
@PauloCereda Anyway, back to JabRef population. Later guys!
 
@percusse See ya, buddy! :)
 
@percusse Bye, Percusse. And, wishes for your thesis once again.
To Sleep. Later people. Have fun until then.
 
Bye, Kannappan. :)
 
1:10 PM
Some more auto grid typesetting:
 
1:29 PM
@JosephWright: Southampton vs. Manchester United, Chelsea vs. Reading today. :D
 
 
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5:30 PM
Is the new BSD CTAN and TL friendly?
 
@PauloCereda CTAN take everything
 
@JosephWright And TL... :)
 
@PauloCereda Debian free wil work
 
@JosephWright I'm ok with relicensing arara from New BSD to <insert TL-friendly license here> just for it to make into TL. :)
Should I post a question on c.t.t?
 
@PauloCereda Why not here?
 
5:39 PM
@PauloCereda I'd ask on the TL list
 
@Patrick Fine with me too. :)
@JosephWright ooh could you point me to the registration? :)
 
@JosephWright Registered, thanks. :)
 
Back from the tour; this time Kobarid/Caporetto/Karfreit (it's the same place in Slovenian, Italian and German), where the Italian army suffered a bad loss in WWI, which caused the retreat described in Hemingway's "A Farewell to Arms".
 
5:55 PM
@egreg How was the weather?
 
@PauloCereda Gorgeous. No cloud whatsoever.
 
@egreg How nice! And the landscapes? :)
 
 
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7:01 PM
@PauloCereda Two nice valleys: Natisone and Isonzo.
 
I read that CTAN does not approve bundling images with a package. Would it be appropriate to include them in the dtx as filecontents? Can filecontents encode binary data?
 
@StephanLehmke Huh?
@StephanLehmke I have a binary in one of my packages (a demo ChemDraw file): never had any issues
 
@JosephWright I was thinking of item 2 in this answer
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A: How can I contribute to CTAN?

Will RobertsonGreat! The process is simple. Everything is explained on the upload page (see below for the actual links). My own guidelines are listed below. Make sure the material is licensed appropriately. Most LaTeX package are licensed under the LPPL, but you can also use the GPL or one of the Apache/BSD/...

What would be the source of a PNG?
 
@StephanLehmke Doesn't apply: an image is a thing itself
@StephanLehmke Also remember that CTAN will take anything reasonable: TL is roughly a subset of CTAN
 
7:07 PM
@JosephWright Ah, ok. Misunderstanding on my part. Thanks for clearing this up.
 
@StephanLehmke TL need the source for the usual 'open source' concept that you can take the original and change it. But an image or similar would simply be edited in whatever program was appropriate
Would an edit make sense?
 
@JosephWright You mean of the answer? Maybe just add a sentence about source-less things.
 
@StephanLehmke Yes: I was thinking of 'source (where appropriate)' or something similar
 
@JosephWright Good idea.
 
@StephanLehmke Done
 
7:15 PM
Hm so should I include arara's source into TL as well?
 
Quick q: how do I get a big version of \mid?
\bigg\mid won't work
or should i just stick to the : for sets?
\bigm| did the trick
 
7:33 PM
@EnglishWacko Yes, that's the correct syntax
 
8:01 PM
 
8:56 PM
@JosephWright This seems a good candidate for an xcoffin answer
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Q: Text positioning: Get width of \hfill, or get x-position of character

Frank SeifertHow can 0123456789 be aligned as shown in red: Same baseline as abcdefghij, aligned left with ABCDEFGHIJKL? \vlines are just for illustration. I am designing a poster where exact text positioning matters. \documentclass{article} \usepackage[absolute,overlay]{textpos} \begin{document} \begin{t...

 
9:07 PM
@egreg I'll take a look.
We have what looks like an XY problem :-)
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A: `xparse verbatim` with `newline`

Joseph WrightAs covered in the xparse documentation, the v argument type is very similar to \verb, and has to be ended within a line. You can grab multiple lines using the 'long' indicator, +: \DeclareDocumentCommand{\macro}{+v}{#1} You should note that you will get This^^MIs^^MA^^MTest when you grab v...

 
I swear, if the last iMovie update would download 1GB, I'd ragequit. :)
Thankfully, it was a delta one. :)
BTW guys, Mountain Lion is very nice. :)
 
9:38 PM
hi guys
I deleted my answer to the helix problem- I lost the rep (makes sense) but didn't loose the 'Nice answer' badge; I found that quite interesting.
don't get me wrong, I don't want to loose it :) I love badges :)
 
@cmhughes Maybe the badges are revoked at a later time. Hope not. :)
 
@egreg me too :)
 
9:57 PM
@egreg Nice answer on the xparse question, but it's not linked at all to xparse :-)
 
@JosephWright I guess it's an XYZ question. :)
 
@egreg It's the question that's the problem :-)
I have no issue with the example give, so I wonder about LuaTeX versions
 
10:42 PM
Sometimes I feel like we might be too tender on downvoting answers. The answer is wrong, I point it out, and the poster says "I might correct it" and does not. Yet, I do not downvote...
 
11:16 PM
@tohecz It wouldn't do any good but only more tension. TeXies read the comments which is surprisingly effective. So this can't work because such and such... is a sufficient alert for many.
Oh, the theological conversation is dissipating enthusiasm in that chat room
 
11:55 PM
Back from the mass. :)
What did I miss? :)
 

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