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1:06 AM
I think I have an answer for the helix thing... I think...
what do you think, getting close?
and I think the technical term is Geodesics
need to hide the hidden bits- @PauloCereda can your ducks help? :)
 
@c0772 You are wellcome :-)
 
1:22 AM
@cmhughes Right! I think that's what that guy wants.
 
@KannappanSampath yep, it's looking good at the moment, other than the fact that I can't hide the hidden bits- am working on a PSTricks solution instead- unless anyone has any ideas
 
Hmm, I am not an expert to offer some suggestions. Sorry. :(((
 
1:58 AM
@JackSchmidt Hi!
 
if anyone knows how to hide the hidden bits, let me know :)
/steps away/
 
@KannappanSampath Howdy! Semester has been pretty busy for me (getting the texies to help write my exams). I've made it through chapter 6 if you wanted to work on that (no rush though, I won't have any real time until the weekend).
 
@JackSchmidt I am having an exam in ring theory in the next week and from monday, I have midsemester exams. I'd love to ask you some questions from that chapter, ch. 6.
We can discuss them perhaps when both of us are free ... I'll let you know, via a ping , when I am done with exams. @Jack
 
@KannappanSampath Sounds good
 
 
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6:10 AM
@cmhughes, @herbert tex.stackexchange.com/questions/70090 has been heavily revised: perhaps you might take another look at your answers
 
 
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8:04 AM
@StephanLehmke I know, actually, I wanted to know if I'm not missing some easy solution. For me, the question is more like "let's see if anybody else would be interested in something like that, and then try to find someone who's willing to code it (or help me code it)."
 
@PauloCereda: the pdf2htmlEX dev is very reactive.
 
8:32 AM
Can people with enough rep tell me if the Bourbaki question is being voted to close?
 
@KannappanSampath no, it is not. You feel it should be?
For me, it feels like , which might be simply TL
 
@tohecz As it stands, its NOT a candidate, and I feel that a potential package can come out of it.
@tohecz Sadly, yes. OP could have put in some effort.
I really want to try my hand at it.
For one, I have heard Bourbaki uses font that is not open source and is also not available commercially.
 
@KannappanSampath On the other hand, he would probably start with book class, while memoir or scrbook might be better choices here
@KannappanSampath The upright one looks quite similar to cmr/lmr, but the italics are completely different
 
Yup. memoir perhaps.
@tohecz Noticed the union symbol?
 
8:48 AM
I hate topskip :(
 
$\cup$ of amssymb would be like: ∪
 
@ℝaphink Wow, that is totally fu***ing impressive. I can't believe it! You are such a hero!! How did you do that?
 
@Patrick: pdf2htmlEX mydoc.pdf :-)
thanks to @PauloCereda for pointing it out yesterday
 
This is really great.
 
the problem now is that ebook-convert doesn't seem to understand (yet) HTML5
I've been dreaming of this for quite some time (tex.stackexchange.com/questions/18139/converting-latex-to-html5)
note that the produced HTML documents contain the fonts embedded in base64 in the CSS
 
@KannappanSampath yeah, well, I said "similar" not "close-to-indentical" ;)
 
9:09 AM
@Patrick: I'm guessing you're gone to build pdf2htmlEX :-)
 
@tohecz :-))
 
@ℝaphink ... to tweet about it :)
@ℝaphink yes, I am looking at the github page, the source code and such. Really impressive
 
@Patrick: it does use javascript to render apparently. I wonder if it could work without.
it seems to work if I remove the javascript parts
the HTML content is horrible though. There's not a single line of meaningful text in there.
 
@ℝaphink copy protection ;-)
 
haha
@Patrick: did you notice that even the microtype protrusion is rendered properly?
this is HTML!
 
9:39 AM
@JosephWright thanks, I also modified my answer
 
@Herbert Nice :-)
 
Hi @Herbert :-)
 
@ℝaphink Yay, how nice! :)
 
I can now put my CV online in HTML :-)
 
@ℝaphink cool! Google translate destroys the layout completely
 
9:53 AM
haha
not surprising
 
that's not TOO bad
geneve_1564 is impossible to translate
which tool do you use @Patrick?
 
 
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10:57 AM
@ℝaphink I use google chrome and it offeres me to translate (probably the same as translate.google.com)
 
11:16 AM
right, it does it for me too, but it cannot translate it
 
4
Q: Rule in textarea every n points

Mr. GundlaI am currently developing a new layout. This must be typeset on a grid, and every line starts at a multiple of 13bp from the top of the text area. To help me check, I'd like to have rules every 13bp from the top of that area on every page without interfering with the typeset text. This is similar...

@MrGundla: this thread is 75% German. <3
 
Hehe. I opened a but against pdf2htmlEX about the bug with fonts in PDFs generated with LuaTeX and joined the geneve_1564 document as an example. The dev replied asking if he could use the document as a demo for his program.
 
How nice!
 
The document was already used as a TeX demo for froscon
 
11:41 AM
@PauloCereda :) The 100pt reputation will stay in Germany as well :)
 
@Patrick :)
 
BTW why am I "Patrick" and not "Mr. Gundla"??? What gives??
 
you logged in from SF I think
ah no, from area51
maybe you should copy your tex profile to area51
 
@ℝaphink No, I swear, I have not been to area51 for a long time!
 
hmmm
when you click on your user, it takes me to your area51 profile
 
11:47 AM
@PauloCereda must ... resist .... to post .... a TikZ answer
 
@ℝaphink "seen: Nov 26 '11 at 11:56"
 
well I don't know…
 
@ℝaphink Perhaps because it's friday
 
maybe they changed the algorithm used to select which account is picked…
Friday is a good possibility
 
user19161
@Patrick If you want the same name everywhere, copy profile to all accounts when editing, log in to all the accounts and their metas, log in to network profile, sync with oldest account, log in to chat, change parent user to what you want, refresh a few times till you see total rep for chat and parent site symbol and badge count, then you are done. Phew!
 
11:57 AM
:)
 
@WillHunting I think I might stay with Patrick :-)
 
user19161
@Patrick But if that was because something had not synced, it won't last. :-)
 
My meta humour seems to be failing. meta.tex.stackexchange.com/q/2730/2693 It's a tough audience out there.
 
@WillHunting I now see that my picture is gone as well. Oh
@AlanMunn you've got a mercy upvote from me :)
 
user19161
@Patrick Well, that is solely attributed to gravatar.com.
 
12:05 PM
@Patrick Thanks! Meta votes are so satisfying. :)
@Patrick And secret messages in the edits. Cute.
 
12:32 PM
@AlanMunn I upvoted you too, when it was -2. :)
@AlanMunn: I made an edit. :)
 
@PauloCereda Paulo switched from Ducks to secrets.
 
12:47 PM
@Patrick ooh it's dirtier. :)
 
@Patrick You seem to have invented a whole new genre of silliness.
 
@AlanMunn I don't want to imagine how the official stackoverflow people react if they find out :)
 
@Patrick Maybe you'll have different user names on different sites....
 
@AlanMunn I like your humor
 
@AlanMunn and reputation reset to 0
 
1:30 PM
is there any mod present?
I have an account merging request
 
@SheridanVespo @JosephWright is in the chat, although I'm not sure he's actually here at the moment.
 
@AlanMunn I'm about
@SheridanVespo What needs doing
 
in The Bridge, 5 mins ago, by badp
@SheridanVespo Okay, you need a TeX mod to merge accounts 18460 and 18085
I asked in the wrong chat, because a couple minutes ago I couldn't get into this chat
 
@SheridanVespo OK, will do
 
thank you
 
1:34 PM
@SheridanVespo Which one should I keep?
 
this one
I cannot access the other one
 
thank you. So far it doesn't display my other SE accounts correctly, will that come with time?
meaning: arqade and SO
 
@Patrick: Love that duck! :D
 
alright. Now the other accounts appear correctly in my tex account
just the other way round isn't proper yet
 
2:26 PM
is it a coincidence or was she summoned, but the pdf2htmlEX person just showed up tex.stackexchange.com/questions/70574/…
 
2:39 PM
@DavidCarlisle Did I start this? :)
 
hi everyone :)
@JosephWright Herbert's answer is awesome! It seems that the fusion option makes it possible- is there such a thing for pgfplots? I don't think there is. I'll be deleting my answer soon....
 
2:54 PM
@cmhughes Hi Chris! :)
 
@PauloCereda hi!
 
@PauloCereda: Reworked my CV page thanks to pdf2htmlEX: cv.raphink.info
 
@ℝaphink Very nice! :D
 
:)
 
@cmhughes I doubt it: pgfplots is not really meant for drawing extruded solids
 
2:56 PM
@JosephWright I feared as much... I'll make an edit with what I have so far, and then delete
Congratulations to Herbert for laying the helix question to rest, and doing so beautifully :)
 
3:36 PM
@lockstep: Did you think that a documentation is useful?
 
3:51 PM
Spotted while looking at a linked maths question :-)
 
@JosephWright We could send a squad there. :)
My LyX ad was cooler. :)
 
@PauloCereda Yes: the one I've linked to is rather too busy for me
 
@JosephWright The comment is the best:
Warning: TeX.SE will send ninjas after you if they see you using this. — muntoo Jan 2 at 20:06
 
@JosephWright Busy indeed. :) A lot of noise for a single ad.
 
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Q: tikz 3d helix torus with hidden lines

Jubao How can I generate the above image using tikz(possibly other methods will work if they produce better looking results)? I would like to have a nicely shaded(not so dark image) without gridlines and possibly enough opacity on the torus to see the hidden part of the helix. The image given is ver...

More fun: see the bounty!
 
3:59 PM
@JosephWright Oh my!
@JosephWright: in other news, sorry for the messy, lengthy email I sent you. :)
 
@JosephWright oh my goodness gracious
a helix on a helix on a torus
So it seems that the helix that Herbert produced is an example of something that can not be done in TikZ (?)
 
@cmhughes it's only one example.
 
@MarcoDaniel is there a list of others?
 
@cmhughes One more I know is the plotting of implicit function: x^2+y^2=0. I don't know a similar solution in tikz.
 
@MarcoDaniel without parametrizing it?
 
4:04 PM
@cmhughes yes
 
@MarcoDaniel ok. with 0 on the right hand side there's not many points :)
 
@cmhughes I'm not sure about 'cannot be done' (TikZ ultimately places ink on a page, which PSTricks does too), but something that would be very tricky to do in any reasonable way
 
@JosephWright fair enough :)
 
@JosephWright This is the general answer ;-)
 
@MarcoDaniel very nice!
@MarcoDaniel can I ask you a PSTricks question- I promise it isn't, 'How can I draw this?' :)
 
4:15 PM
@cmhughes Maybe I can help.
 
@MarcoDaniel we know that if we use \psset{xunit=1cm} then that changes the width of the pspicture
but it doesn't tell us what the final width is
so.... if we want our pspicture to have a width of 9cm, what do we do?
(I have an answer, I just want to make sure there's no obvious way)
 
@cmhughes You can use the environment psgraph
 
@MarcoDaniel ok- which bundle is this from?
 
@cmhughes pst-plot I believe. If you say \begin{psicture}(0,0)(9,0) only the bounding box will be set.
 
@MarcoDaniel ok
 
4:19 PM
@cmhughes pst-plot documentation page 13
 
@MarcoDaniel thanks a lot :)
 
time for sport -- we see us in an hour ;-)
 
@MarcoDaniel Soccer? :)
 
@JosephWright yes we should do it in latex picture mode, just for comparison.
 
@DavidCarlisle :-)
 
4:31 PM
+1 Moral of the story: The OP should always supply a complete document that shows the problem (or rely on someone with a crystal ball:-) — David Carlisle 39 mins ago
@DavidCarlisle: <3
 
5:20 PM
@AndrewStacey <nag> Argh, topologists! Always mapping stuff onto stuff, self-clipping paths. What's next, inverting the sphere? </nag> Neat trick in tex.stackexchange.com/a/70594/3235
 
@percusse Thanks. I'd just worked it through when you posted yours! But I figured I needed the rep so posted anyway.
Mind you, sphere inversion in TikZ would be neat.
 
@AndrewStacey I'm afraid that's Herbert's turf.
 
@percusse Now that's a challenge.
 
@AndrewStacey \pgfutil to Tantau-lizer ...radio noise... He got the bait, I repeat he got the bait.
 
ooh spy stuff.
 
5:27 PM
Reference to all TikZers: Sphere inversion
Also rightfully known as mindfuck transformations.
 
Officially, I ought to know what on earth is going on there. Unofficially, I just sit here and think "Oooo, what pretty pictures"
 
What did I just watch?!
My brain hurts so much.
 
@PauloCereda Now you know why Perelman looks like that :)
 
Smileys - Frowns = lolwut
 
@PauloCereda hahahah
 
5:38 PM
Oh no, now the equation has saddles!
:)
 
@PauloCereda Just wait until you hit the middle of part 2 :)
 
@percusse Video 2, here I go! :)
@percusse: LMAO at the second comment in the video. :D
 
@PauloCereda hahah, perfect
 
@percusse: awesome! :)
"Some guy should make a movie about it." :)
 
6:09 PM
@PauloCereda you've earned the 25 rep ;-)
Oh no, the minimum bounty is 50, so you'll get 50. You want them on this question?
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A: Reducing the time it takes to write a paper

Paulo CeredaI have some thoughts: Try to make sure you know beforehand (almost) everything your paper needs. Tables, figures, charts, and so forth. It's easier to write something when you already have an idea of what will be there afterwards. :) Does your paper use a special document class, e.g. IEEEtran? ...

 
@PauloCereda Next year I must run a half marathon. My wife has registered me.
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6:27 PM
@Patrick Oh don't worry. :)
@MarcoDaniel Cool! :)
 
@PauloCereda Then I'll randomly upvote a few of your q/a's
 
@Patrick awww don't worry. :) From now on, we will hide subliminal messages on our answers. :)
 
@PauloCereda It was hard to find answers / questions that I didn't already vote on. :)
 
@MarcoDaniel shouldn't you worry if your wife is trying to kill you?
 
@Patrick I know that feeling. :)
@DavidCarlisle Maybe it's a downhill. :) Or we can give Marco a boost by putting a bunch of angry bees behind him. :)
@DavidCarlisle: Brazil vs. South Africa today (friendly). Wanna watch it? :)
 
6:35 PM
@PauloCereda cricket?
 
@DavidCarlisle I wish. :) Football. :)
 
@PauloCereda Cool is a beer ;-) --
My wife will run 10 km
 
@MarcoDaniel Nice, the same marathon?
 
@PauloCereda Yes it's in april next year. We will start as amateur and then I have to run 22km and my wife 10. After this I will go to a beer garden
@JosephWright @PauloCereda: What do you think? Do we need an extra documentation? Normally it's a good style tex.stackexchange.com/questions/58152/…
 
@MarcoDaniel ooh very nice. :)
@MarcoDaniel 22km?! Oh my!
 
6:49 PM
@PauloCereda A distance which must be done by car ;-)
@PauloCereda As I registered at TeX.sx, I heart github the first time. Now it's one of my daily web sites ;-)
 
... as long as I know JMH, he talks about mlbibtex :)
(at the very end of that page)
 
@Patrick ooh ConTeXt guys there! :D
 
7:04 PM
@PauloCereda I am surprised that this is a ConTeXt flavor this time. Yes, it's also a ConTeXt meeting.
 
@Patrick Ah cool! :)
 
@PauloCereda Some of the ConTeXt users come from the Czech Republic and bring good beer with them :)
... that's always a good reason to go to a ConTeXt conference
 
@Patrick C'mon, you are German! :)
@Patrick LOL
 
@PauloCereda yes, but I usually go by train, so I can't bring much beer :)
 
@Patrick ooh three kegs of beers only. :)
 
7:17 PM
@DavidCarlisle thanks again for your explanation on \begingroup\chapter{...}\endgroup. I've followed the code now.
... and (@DavidCarlisle) clever solution for graph paper (with @oddhead)
 
7:34 PM
@JosephWright: can we interview you for the next TeXtalk? :)
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@Patrick That one is a recurring theme (I already have several answers on site:-) that the "header" is latex's hook for anything that should be at a fixed position relative to the page rather than part of the text flow, and a zero sized picture mode in a header is a typical way of placing such things at set coordinates on a page. Normally it's logos and the like but rules are easier:-)
@PauloCereda when is it your turn?
 
@DavidCarlisle Someday. :)
 
@PauloCereda maybe we'll just collect all your comments from this room and fake an interview to post to the blog, as suggested by @percusse I think...
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@DavidCarlisle No, please no! They are all out of context. :)
 
@PauloCereda all the better. I'm sure you've starred lots of my comments so they get yanked out of context. Revenge time....
Hmm this is starting to look like a good interview already...
 
7:58 PM
@DavidCarlisle that makes much sense. In my LuaTeX systems, I place boxes with horizontal and vertical kerns inside a 0 sized box, so that I am always in the top left position for the next object. But with LaTeX this is not possible, but the header hack is nice to know.
 
@DavidCarlisle LMAO
Dec 6 '11 at 22:02, by Paulo Cereda
I want a beaver and a duck.
LOL
 
8:14 PM
@Patrick That is the description of latex picture mode.
 
@PauloCereda 0-0 not missed much then?
 
:)
@DavidCarlisle Not even a little. :) What a boring game, I wish it were cricket instead.
 
8:39 PM
@DavidCarlisle: Goal! Brazil 1:0 South Africa.
 
8:51 PM
@MarcoDaniel Sent to CTAN yet?
@PauloCereda If there are no better alternatives (surely there are)
 
@JosephWright suggestions are welcome! :)
 
@MarcoDaniel Documentation for biblatex styles does not need to be very heavy. I'd go with 'some notes for moving from traditional BibTeX', I think
@PauloCereda How about Heiko, if we can convince him?
 
@JosephWright It would be great! Let's try. :)
 
Another question that paralyzes me as a flashlight does to a rabbit. In my thesis ,using memoir class, I have a subsection defined as \subsection{$\mu-$analysis}. But during the compilation I get these three warnings:
Is there any question that addresses this behavior? Searching the error didn't give me anything.
 
9:07 PM
@percusse \texordpdfstring{<tex version>}{<pdf version>} I think.
 
@TorbjørnT. Exactly
@percusse You can't put math mode material into PDF bookmarks. You can put in some UTF-8 characters, but a limited subset
 
@percusse It should be $\mu$-analysis or you get a minus sign. \section{\textorpdfstring{$\mu$}{mu}-analysis
 
@JosephWright: What's the syntax again? :)
 
@egreg Ah that's a slip of pen.
@TorbjørnT. @JosephWright Thanks! Why am I not aware of this thing?
I should stop reading tikz questions and do some real TeXing. :P
 
8
Q: Hyperref warning - Token not allowed in a PDF string

Nickolay KolevWhen compiling a beamer presentation and using the following \author command \author{Name \\ \texttt{my.email@domain.com}} I get the following hyperref warning in my logfile Package hyperref Warning: Token not allowed in a PDF string (PDFDocEncoding): (hyperref) removing `\\' o...

 
9:11 PM
@TorbjørnT. Heh, I also don't know how to search properly :)
 
@JosephWright No. Before I do this I want to do some test and maybe I will write a small documentation (1 page).
 
@MarcoDaniel abridged documentation. :)
 
@PauloCereda ;-)
 
9:45 PM
@JosephWright Here is another one that puzzles me. Both $k\in\SIrange{0}{\bar{k}}{\newton\per\metre}$ and $k\in\SIrange{0}{\text{$\bar{k}$}{\newton\per\metre}$ don't work and adding ensuremath also doesn't help. I'm using mode=math but is it only applicable to numbers?
My setup is
\sisetup{mode = math,
open-bracket={[},close-bracket={]},
per-mode=symbol,
range-units=brackets,
range-phrase={,}
}
 
@percusse You want parse-numbers = false, as by default siunitx decomposes and reconstructs the numerical input (that's how all the cleverness works)
 
@PauloCereda @JosephWright: Done. A small documentation is written. It's a little bit late. Tomorrow I will do a small spell check.
 
@JosephWright Aha, thank you! So there is no distinction between the entries like range min parse=false,range max parse=true.
 
@percusse Not at the moment: either you parse numbers or you don't
 
@JosephWright Like a boss!
 
9:58 PM
@Joseph: how do I use the epic super @ notification? :)
 
@PauloCereda I think nowadays it's mod-only :-(
 
@JosephWright Oh. :(
 
@PauloCereda The format is @@<id>@tex.stackexchange.com, so for you I'd put @@3094@tex.stackexchange.com
 
@JosephWright Wow, how nice! :)
 
It then 'automagics' into a normal-looking @ thing
 
10:00 PM
:)
 
@PauloCereda You can try it and see if it works
 
@@1090@tex.stackexchange.com Hi David, do you copy? :P
Oh. :(
 
@PauloCereda Doesn't look right :-(
Like I said, I think it's mod-only
 
@JosephWright I failed. :)
 
@PauloCereda You could lobby for an election
 
10:02 PM
@JosephWright Election?! No thanks, everything is fine. :)
 
@PauloCereda :-)
 
Could you ping Heiko, please? ID: 16967
:)
 
@heikooberdiek Would you be interested in joining our irregular chat-based interview series (led by @PauloCereda)?
 
@JosephWright Thanks. :)
I'm a fraud. :D
 
And the previous chats can be found here : tex.blogoverflow.com/category/tex-sx/interviews
So is this too localized based on OPs edit?
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Q: *** glibc detected *** error from texmaker in tikzpicture environment

MarkusI am facing a very strange problem. Texmaker quits with an error under a very specific condition, which has nothing to do with compilation, but rather what I type. Say for a minimal working example, I start typing \documentclass[]{article} \usepackage{tikz} \usepackage{pgfplots} \begin{document}...

 
10:07 PM
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Q: tikz 3d helix torus with hidden lines

Jubao How can I generate the above image using tikz(possibly other methods will work if they produce better looking results)? I would like to have a nicely shaded(not so dark image) without gridlines and possibly enough opacity on the torus to see the hidden part of the helix. The image given is ver...

Nice work, guys! This thread was magically transformed from bad to good!
 
@JosephWright Did you read my answer on \read eating trailing spaces?
Maybe Bruno can say more.
 
JJD
10:31 PM
Good evening
 
@JJD 'ello! :)
 
JJD
I have a question that I had for a long time regarding hyphenation.
Some words at the end of a line cannot be hyphenated and are longer then the columnwidth allows, e.g. "tree". Why does the engine not break the word into a new line? Same with hyphens that overlap the end of the line.
 
JJD
11:13 PM
The bad hyphenation looks like this imageshack.us/photo/my-images/716/hyphenation.png
 
11:29 PM
This user has not registered, but is writing relevant answers. What is the usual policy? Ask him to register, perhaps?
 

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