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00:01
@Videonauth how would you deal with a plagiarist on the site?
First get him into a chat of course explaining him whats wrong with his behavior and deleting those posts then regardless of if I had spoke to him or not, sometimes users leave the site for days to return then
If its a 100% plagiat (i.e. copy & paste) or close to copy and paste which i already had found some of myself as regular user
for now i would even have to ask an elder mod if the account has to be removed as well (not sure about that) but I'm definitively able to adapt :)
and i might even consider if the question should not be marked as a duplicate
This is something I have just become aware of as another has been using an old answer of mine, so I just edited his answers to include Source with a link to my answer
It really should be flagged as duplicate here, as you have stated
I found a series of that recently and had to ask the mods in chat to have a look at it
and series i mean one answer posted around 15 times with slight changes so the system didn't detect it
Hope it wasn't one of my answers
nope :)
a genuine answer by this person i believe but then pasted all over the place
i only saw this because i do nearly all review ques up to the max possible each day
and when you see then the same answer over and over again as late answer review you know somethings foul
00:12
ok, my supper is done and if I don't leave it will be cold. It will be nice to see you as a mod Videonauth
00:52
@Videonauth your candidate score is pretty damned impressive for someone who's been here 2 months ;p
@JourneymanGeek yes, results out of a personal health issue i not want to disclose, lets just say i can't sleep and then i need something to do :)
ah. Not uncommon
I'm actually spending around 10+ hours a day on the site except the moments the real life (you know that arkward adventure with that great analog graphics and not so great storyline) calls
02:00
I must say that when I was Xtra Noob to the sight I thought you were a mod.
Like, about a couple weeks ago.
@anonymous2 Why? only because I'm so much on-line? No, yet I'm only a mere mortal aiming to contribute to the site.
Basically, yes. I saw your posts all over the place.
Didn't know what a mod was, really.
Since I'm not going to post a thank you on the truly reassuring comments, i want to say thank you here.
To be honest, it's me that has to say thank you to people like you who have devoted time and experience to make this site a great place for finding information and help in the time of need.
Well you're as well a a part of it, contributing to the site :)
02:11
@Jeremy31 hello
@Seth as a moderator is there a set number of hours required to moderate on a daily basis or weekly?
@WildMan No there is not. We just do as much as we can at the time.
I use to spend all my time on the forum but I do have less time now but I manage a few hours a day, that is why I was wondering
02:35
good night all
good night :)
 
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@jokerdino Very nice. Thanks :)
I am on 38 lol
I've got 15.
I think they added new badge count.
Pretty cool
07:00
Are you thinking about it @MadMike?
I'm on 9
I think I was on 40 on SU
I am pretty sure I had a perfect score when I was on.
ha I got you beat.
39/40 >:-D
shoot you
not applying though :X I so do not have time to spend on being a mod :P
07:06
you are smart and that's why I like you.
starred >:-D
there are names on the election sheer I do not remember ever seeing in chat :P
not just chat lol
07:22
yes well.....I know ... I did not dare to post -that- and erased it with "chat"
>:-D
RE
@jokerdino i love AU, and I love the instant gratification with helping smaller and bigger problems. But I'm really just a irregular visitor ;)
We could use all kinds of help.
@Rinzwind heh, more mods on chat is always good
Its (usually) an awesome way to engage with the folks you mod for
07:37
sure :)
08:02
@Rinzwind Well, being in chat is not all that important, really. Not all the current mods are active in chat and I'm basically the only U&L mod who's often in chat.
 
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Tim
Tim
13:48
Leaving this message here so that someone can ping me 😀
@Tim ping
14:26
Tim, how do you feel about your abilities to intervene in arguments?
* @Tim
Wait, you're not here anymore.
Tim
Tim
14:44
@anonymous2 That really depends on the details
If it was two people arguing about a technical point, I'd probably be stuck and not know the answer. If it was site policy, I'd do my best to express it to them as well I can.
Either way, I'd try to diffuse the situation quickly, with little collateral damage.
15:34
Have you any recent experience as far as that's concerned?
 
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Tim
Tim
16:57
I'm going to say no.
I don't think so...
@tim How are you going to make time for moderatorship?
You are all stressed up from studies as it is.
Tim
Tim
@jokerdino Well I get 13 weeks of holiday per year at the moment. I probably have 2 free hours per day (or can make that) so I can spare time for it.
However, yes, next year during exams my time spent here is likely to drop down again. I've nearly finished exams for this year.
 
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18:57
Say, @Tim, you said you would re-evaluate actions. What about askubuntu.com/questions/783993/…? Do you think you could have handled that a bit better?
I didn't look into the facts behind it, so I don't know where the truth lies. :)
BTW, I don't pull that out to put you on the spot. Just wondering how you would manage that as a mod. Obviously, the mod has a very different position than you have currently and you could address the situation with more authority.
Tim
Tim
I think I expressed myself well, and engaged with others without getting angry. I also asked on Ask Different, and they close those as off topic.
So while I think it's something we need to discuss as a community, I'm happy with how that went, and the closure is acceptable. I'm probably not going to vote to reopen (and certainly would not with mod powers).
That sort of question is something we need to agree on Meta, the site scope should change, and the help centre could be updated to reflect that.
Okay, thanks for the quick reply.
it doesn't look a reasonable question that can be suitably answered on our site. I would agree with the closure.
Tim
Tim
I'm still not convinced that we should do the same as Ask Different (because Apple make the devices etc) so we need to decide. I may make the meta post later, my brain is frazzeled with Statistics rn
let me ask this.. I want to buy a Dell laptop preloaded with Ubuntu. It so happens that my local store ran out of stock. So, I am posing a question "When will my local store have Ubuntu laptops?"
19:07
I honestly think that Tim is right: we need to decide this in Meta.
So, you are saying we should be handling questions about when the local store will be stocking Ubuntu laptops?
I dont see how this Meizu phone is much different from that.
There's a lot of truth in that. I don't think that we should be handling questions about local stores.
But there is a small nuanced difference to the question.
> Ubuntu on Meizu Pro 5 is all sold out. Will it be available again, and can I pre-order it?
Ubuntu on Dell is all sold out. Will it be available again [in my local store], and can I pre-order it?
Yep. Right on. And if you look at the comments, you'll see that I was initially opposed to leaving this question open. I still am.
However, I fail to see that we should just throw out the opinions of 30k users. Obviously, there is a reason they have gained that reputation. They know the site.
Bear in mind, there are all sorts of things in meta. If the site users think it is important, they'll take it to the top.
and I will be there to say no.
19:12
Predicting the future, not our business.
So will I. But I am advocating listening to other opinions.
Tim
Tim
Okay the differences with Dell are 1. They also sell it with Windows 2. They're not partnered with Canonical 3. We're talking about their online site only
Okay better comparison: Asking on "Ask Windows" when the surface pro will be back in stock on the Microsoft store site?
Sorry, @Tim. I honestly wasn't trying to get you stuck in a maelstrom of comments... :)
Perfect. The right people to ask this would be the manufacturers.
Tim
Tim
I've kinda dissuaded myself now - perhaps it's a redundant question for this site.
But maybe the help centre needs to be more explict, because reading that I took it as this is on topic (but probably unanswerable).
19:14
It could be. Honestly, @Tim, if you think it's important, put a post on Meta. It's always worth discussing anything we have disagreements on.
... just not on the main site.
If you don't think it's worth your time, well... we'll just drop it! :D
FYI, the person who asked the question moved on.
Hey, @JacobVlijm! You nominating?
I don't see him.
Orange square.
Between Tim and muru.
Had to refresh. I see him now.
19:17
Using IE? ;)
No, Firefox.
In the midst of update.
Oh. That explains it.
I mean, the update.
No, it doesn't.
@anonymous2 I don't know yet :)
Get ready to receive some terrible comments on all your nomination posts tomorrow. :P
19:22
@Tim @jokerdino @anonymous2 in case you're interested: Science Fiction & Fantasy had a similar debate
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Q: Should questions about future works be closed as Primarily Opinion Based?

phantom42This is a subject that we've touched upon slightly in the past, but either the questions are based on old close reasons such as "General Reference" and "Too Localized", which are now gone - or they're a little more specific. Movie Trailer Based Questions How do we deal with questions about rum...

Thanks for the link, yo.
Tim
Tim
That's a good way of putting it.
Looks like their certificate is out of date - is that possible?
Tim
Tim
The phrasing of "Opinion based" doesn't fit it.
@anonymous2 They don't have https for meta
19:26
Okay, just figured that out. Thanks1
Tim
Tim
Because you can't have meta.*.stackexchange.com in a certificate because a long time ago someone registered something stupid like blog.*.com
Interesting. I must confess I know very little about certificates.
Tim
Tim
me neither
Also I think someone tried to get *.* :P
Hey, you're able to edit chats after they're on? Why, so you are!
Tim
Tim
Yeah, also you can press Up Arrow to edit
Like on Skype
19:31
@jokerdino just curious, in summer, I am pretty sure I am out for 3-4, probably only secretely logging in once and a while, would disqualify me in anticipation? Same in October for a few weeks.
Hey, the mods are allowed vacations, I hope?
3
The poor folks, I appreciate them more than ever!
@JacobVlijm that wouldn't disqualify you, we all most some of us have lives :)
Is this an annual thing though?
@Seth In summer, I hope :), in October anyway, preparations for the festival.
should still be perfectly fine, just curious (American's don't take 3-4 week vacations often so it took my poor mind a bit to figure it out)
Tim
Tim
@Seth You get 4 weeks holiday per year don't you?
19:38
@Tim I dunno what the employment laws are, but I don't believe 4 is mandatory, no.
Tim
Tim
Oh right!
In the UK, I believe 5 weeks (25 days) are required plus bank holidays
All teachers in the Netherlands have 6 weeks in a row :)
doesn't look like paid vacation is mandatory, although 90% of private companies offer it.
@JacobVlijm Wow!
....of which I always have to do a few things unpaid in summer, but connected to the job
Tim
Tim
Yeah, Teachers are the exception here too. 6 weeks in Summer, and 13 in total in the year
19:45
Yeah but the last few months before summer are crazy...
Tim
Tim
Yes, and they have longer hours than the 9-5
...Absolutely!
20:06
They ought to set up nomination chats for federal elections. Can you imagine getting a message from @Trump? My spine creeps thinking about it...
I guess I should say that, it's not PC, is it, now.
Tim
Tim
20:22
You mean @Drumpf?!
Um, yeah. Er, who's (s)he?
I was thinking of Donald Trump from US republican party.
Tim
Tim
Trumps old family name. He's a German immigrant - his grandparents changed their surname
Oh. Same old story. Okay, I won't complain; my grandparents did the same.
You know, our family name was Hanon, but they changed it to Anon.
Seriously, they did do the same.
Tim
Tim
Yeah, but you're not going around preaching that immigrants should be deported for being rapists and criminals
So I live in the UK, and what I've got from his campaign is "Big Wall. Big big Wall"
Um, no. I didn't say I wouldn't complain about his policies.
And I live in CA. Apparently, we're supposed to pay for the wall.
I don't think our PM will discard that suggestion lightly. Contrarywise, I think he will jettison it with as much force possible.
At least, I hope.
Tim
Tim
20:30
Hopefully
Bye everyone. Tune in tomorrow, maybe.
 
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user136984
22:11
Are moderators expected to be more revealing about who they truly are? I mean like not trying to hide their real name etc.
22:38
@ParanoidPanda no. And mods are more in the public eye than others. Gilles has a post somewhere where he says another mod who had their real name in the profile got called at home by an irate user.
@muru can you see my email on launchpad? launchpad.net/~sethj
(you'll have to be logged in)
Email:
No public address provided.
thanks
22:54
you would to have it explicitly set to show your email address to show it, otherwise only the options to use the launchpad contact form to mail through the system
yeah, so there's really no real privacy concern here.
(I actually cannot find the setting to make my email visible lol)
oh I found it
hahaha
sorry, but that made me laugh

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