The Quill and Tankard - 2018-01-23 (page 1 of 2)

« first day (630 days earlier) ← previous day next day → last day (584 days later) »

1:13 AM

I just watched Bright tonight. It wasn't bad at all. It probably could have been better, but it clears that threshold.

5 hours later…

6:16 AM

@Kepotx You Ser, I like you!!!! Man do you know, you can get TWOW artifact in the game :D?

@Kepotx He took their crowns as well. But nobody knows what happened to them. Well nobody knows what happened to the crown of winter.

Aegon made them all surrender their crowns. So game is kinda correct that presumably, they were all locked up somewhere in the treasury so Targs should have them as artifacts

@Edlothiad Actually it is incredibly faithful to the books. You even get something as minor as Harren's curse

Start playing as Lord of Harrenhal. And watch your progeny die in freak accidents or just sudden weird sickness. With age, you will soon have the problem of "Receding ~~hairline~~ heirline"

But it's not endorsed by GRRM so of course it's not canon. But that doesn't make it fan-fic. It is extremely thorough

@Aegon It can be as faithful as you want to the books, it's not a canonical source

@FuzzyBoots Wrong chat?

@Kepotx Yeah they tried that. And failed. Rhaenys died in one such bombing mission

@Edlothiad Sure. We are in agreement on that

Just pointing out it doesn't make changes like D&D like to do. They make do just in the cases where George is silent i.e. lineage of lords stretching all the way back to their founders.

I didn't say it was a "fan-fic", I merely compared it to the canonicity of a fan-fic based on the argument that it's "based on a book"

Well for D&D it's the matter of making a hit TV show with something that was never meant to be adapted by the screen, and then getting ahead of the books and having to make things up to continue the story. I understand why things have to change, they could've just changed them better.

@Edlothiad It's not awful at all

@Edlothiad I used the same defence for them up until season 4.

It's not a defence. It's the truth. Book readers can be blinded by hate, that's simply how it is.

6:35 AM

@Edlothiad I understand why things have to change, they could've just changed them better......Somethings. Somethings didn't need to be changed at all

And they did those just for the heck of it

@Aegon Well so you claim, as do others.

I choose to remain skeptical until confirmed.

"My claim , best claim" - Stannis Baratheon (Probably)

Lol

E&L Always reply to Carrot, but not to Ed...

Maybe they know my name is Sindarin :O

They replied to me just once as well

To be fair, I tweeted them just twice

You managed to drag Elio all the way here to answer a question himself so that's something

Ye but he has yet to answer my questions.

I've only provided two though

33,999 rep.....

Oh a refresh made it 34000, that's quite a nice number.

6:40 AM

I got 30,30

There is a 4 between there

But 30,30 sounds better

@Edlothiad Congrats.

Thanks in part to that Northern houses question about honour, not that I know what else to add. I could look through the 5.25 books for the phrase "honour" but effort

Wow I am very generous with UVs here, just noticed

1431u, 250d

on SO I am much more leaning towards negative side

980u, 1665d

3036 up, 230 down.

@Edlothiad And I thought I was generous

I think you need to rethink your use of the word generous. You've been around almost 900 days, that's less than 2 votes per day...

6:53 AM

I am very generous with the word generous

Paha!

9 more favourites!: scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/2335/…

7:07 AM

8 or 9?

it's on 92

8 now I guess

It would be the first quadruple gold on SFF

8:06 AM

Whats that? Famous Question, Great Question, Stellar Question and ....?

Great Answer

Right. I thought there was a fourth question gold badge

Nah, the Triple is normally Famous Q, Great A and Great Q (In the order they're most commonly earned)

Wow SortingHat dude is really pissed at Liberals, Millennials etc

Ye, just R/A and move along

8:24 AM

Needs leave closed votes: scifi.stackexchange.com/review/reopen/120369

@Edlothiad that rant in bold italic can be removed actually.

@NogShine Meh, no point fixing what's broken

Oh lol I hadn't even seen that! Removed

Hehehe, my edit comment: scifi.stackexchange.com/revisions/179256/8

Sometimes I crack myself up.

I would put another reason like "It's okay to admit that you haven't searched the question before posting"

Didn't the original question question had many views and upvotes.

8:41 AM

The dupe target?

Or before edits?

If you look at that posts revision history, you can see the OP has no idea what they were asking, just that they wanted it to stay open.

Maybe SE should give a badge to people with positive score questions which get closed as dupe

To make them know dupes aren't bad

Something like "Great minds think alike"

But that would be easily gameable

Find an already asked question. Show genuine research in a new question asking the same thing. Get closed or comment "oops, found the answer". Get the badge

It'd be a bronze badge, and would deter me further from asking questions

@Aegon I found a meta about you:

20

Q: Why don't some people vote?

I was going through the stats, and it appears there are some long time users with substantial rep that don't vote, or vote very seldom. We all like rep. It gives us the privileges and badges that drive the site. If you take the time to answer or ask questions and enjoy the fruit of doing so, why ...

discussion voting

TheLethalCarrot

8:58 AM

@Kepotx To be fair I'm never really around at that time :P For your question there are more in Essos but they're not relevant to the story so we don't hear about them

@Kepotx They did try that but the Dornish fled the cities and lived off the land. Then ambushed any men coming into Dorne by foot, I think

It probably can be related to the vietnam war, in the same way it can be related to any war which has one side opposing with guerilla warfare...

TheLethalCarrot

@Edlothiad Lol cos I'm awesome, even James Gunn replied to me yesterday though looking through his twitter he's quite good at replying to people

@Edlothiad I doubt GRRM had the Vietnam war in his head when he wrote it though, probably more the Scottish guerrilla warfare on the Romans at Hadrians Wall

Hai

TheLethalCarrot

I probably should have posted the Gunn reply answer today though cos I got no rep for it yesterday cos I was already capped haha

Though I did get triple silver for it

9:20 AM

@TheLethalCarrot Twitter is one thing, getting an email reply from two different authors is another...

TheLethalCarrot

Haha you've given me a new challenge now you know?

Email someone?

TheLethalCarrot

Yeah and get a replty

Depending on the author it can be pretty easy

I doubt GRRM would as he's swamped. Julia whatever and Andy Weir were pretty low-brow authors so willing to reply

Tolkien would sign your book plate with a personal note if you sent it to him. I still don't know what a book plate is

TheLethalCarrot

Aye, though GRRM does reply to some emails you've just gotta get lucky I think

usually a small print or decorative label pasted into a book, often on the inside front cover, to indicate its owner.

9:25 AM

Yeah, I know that, doesn't mean I know what it is or have ever seen one.

TheLethalCarrot

Wiki has some images

Ye they didn't help, I was just as confused

TheLethalCarrot

Looks to be a page sized drawing that's been put on the inside cover

Hmm yeah maybe

Eitherway, Tolkien would send you signed book plates

Back in the day

TheLethalCarrot

That's pretty cool

But then again I bet he had less people badgering him about it, though I obviously don't know

9:28 AM

Well a signed book plate

@TheLethalCarrot Well the letters are published fan letters, so yeah, less badgering

TheLethalCarrot

Aye it's easier to enjoy things when there's less of it haha

He may have gotten something like 30-50 letters per week at the peak, and most of these things happened in the 40s and 50s when not many people would be sending letters to authors, so when someone sent in a book I believe he provided a sketch and put it in a book plate

Or wrote a note and signed the plate and sent it back

Cuz what are the odds someone would pay the 8 shillings it cost to post a book to oxford?

TheLethalCarrot

Yeah, though 30-50 a week is still sort of high

That's like a maximum estimate. Letters are also slightly more intimate than email/tweets

TheLethalCarrot

Oh of course

It's hard to be intimate in a tweet to cos you'd run out of characters haha

9:32 AM

Lol

TheLethalCarrot

One of my tweets to E&L had loads of fluff in it and politeness and I had to cut it all out cos of the damn character limit

Even though it's been doubled...

TheLethalCarrot

Yeah it was a longish question anyway

And I showed some research effort so they didn't repeat what I'd done...

Wait

Is twitter SE?

:P

I'm confused

I'm way to bloody sleep deprived, that North honour question had me up far to late

TheLethalCarrot

Haha oh dear

Not too bad of an answer though

9:37 AM

I still think it's awful, but I can only work with what I got.

I think the only part of the answer I like is "The North remembers"

Made me giggle

TheLethalCarrot

Me too

Simple things

I think the only thing it would need would be to say why the others don't

Unless you added that already and I just missed it when I skim read it

Nah I didn't, didn't even think of that. Guess that gives me something to do till lunch

Although I can't recall any quotes that would suggest it, besides "they forgot quicker"

TheLethalCarrot

Well I haven't looked into it to be honest

I'm sure there's something where they discuss the Watch in the south

Tyrion POV at the Wall has a few thoughts about it I think

Especially when he thinks about Jon

Or on the way up to the Wall

Hmm yeah can look at that and have a quick google

I'm currently deciding whether I should just delete this answer or give them time to edit.

Guess they've had an hour (LQP review queue)

TheLethalCarrot

Pretty poor answer

9:51 AM

We got E&L

TheLethalCarrot

...?

Also

No doubt the boy had made the mistake of thinking that the Night's Watch was made up of men like his uncle. If so, Yoren and his companions were a rude awakening. Tyrion felt sorry for the boy. He had chosen a hard life … or perhaps he should say that a hard life had been chosen for him.

That's the quote I was thinking of sort of answers for you

Meh not really, that's just Tyrion acknowledging the realities of the wall

TheLethalCarrot

I know but it shows the difference between how Jon was told the Wall would be and how Tyrion was told it would be at least

Or at least how they perceived it so maybe not

I suppose there's a couple of ways you can interpret it

> "It's also a recognition that the wall has helped protect the North from wildling invasions much more recently than when the Others were las seen. It's an honorable calling for a younger son, who otherwise has few prospects, to take the black because of this history"

So nothing I hadn't really already said.

Shucks, I'll give them a like and a thanks.

TheLethalCarrot

Yeah basically all your points but it does back up your answer at least

9:55 AM

They forgot the u in "honourable"

TheLethalCarrot

Ew they used the American spelling

That's working with GRRM that's done that haha

Ok Southern Lords first, then E&L tweet

It genuinely irritates me that the writing of a medieval set story uses AE

Makes me physically sick paha

TheLethalCarrot

Better than Ye Olde English though

Nah that would've been lit

It's reasonably easy to read, with a few weird words

What is that term they always use in ASOIAF for stories?

Like Maid Stories or something

Wives tales?

@Edlothiad I like how the answer begins. That's definitely true. We all like rep. isn't simply true and enjoy the fruit of doing so, the fruit is different for each one of us.

TheLethalCarrot

10:00 AM

I've heard of wives tales before but don't know if I've read it in the books

Wet nurse stories

@Aegon Sure but if you look at one of the top users, they have 480 upvotes, being a member for 3.5 years, and a hyper active member for at least 12 of those months. Having received themselves over 10000 upvotes.

Just seems like some people are unwilling to congratulate the efforts of others.

TheLethalCarrot

I can't speak for others but I know I'm very bad at upvoting questions I answer

I have got better recently though

I just upvote things I see.

I upvote the questions I answer because I want them to hit the HNQ

Well I wouldn't say I am just unwilling. I primarily vote only in asoiaf and got tags. Other than that, I do show appreciation in form of bounties as well

And in those tags too, I mostly UV only the questions which are really interesting and answers which leave me saying "Boy, I can't add anything here"

Fair enough

I mean to each their own. I see an upvote as having little value, so I cast it when I see a question I thought "interesting observation" and the answer seems right and answers my curiosity

TheLethalCarrot

10:11 AM

That's essentially what I do but I spend most of my time in ASOIAF and GoT so I don't usually see other content

Jarko Dubbeldam

10:45 AM

Hmm, I love the small hints to future events/revelations that are in the books

Each time I reread I find new things

> Sansa Stark, that ought to put a smile on Tyrion's face. He remembered how happy his brother had been with his little crofter's daughter . . . for a fortnight.

@JarkoDubbeldam said everyone ever...

TheLethalCarrot

11:23 AM

Next time someone moans about HNQ spoilers I'm linking them to Valorum's meta answer

29

A: Is there a way to hide the HNQ List?

You could get a piece of paper approximately three inches wide and use masking tape to attach it to the side of your monitor. Artist's Impression.

It's on main meta too

TheLethalCarrot

Oh is it? I've only just seen it haha

Oh maybe not, I thought he linked it over, maybe it was someone else

TheLethalCarrot

Probably is somewhere else I just haven't seen it

Holy crap I'm infuriated by these whining spoiler people...

I CAN'T WAIT FOR SEASON 8!

Jarko Dubbeldam

11:38 AM

@Edlothiad doesn't make it less true

@JarkoDubbeldam Doesn't make my statement false.

;)

Jarko Dubbeldam

@Edlothiad well, I think I could point at some people that might have never said that

starting with those that don't speak english

Well see, that's where you've not taken the context of the conversation into the reply

In context, "everyone ever" means "everyone ever to have read/reread the books."

Jarko Dubbeldam

@Edlothiad even then there might be people that don't speak english

So in that case, the stranger on google would not be a valid argument.

Jarko Dubbeldam

11:41 AM

and thus don't think that in english :p

Language is universal, you merely chose to portray your feelings in what we call English.

Whether it says "I find new things every time" or "Mahita zava-baovao aho isaky ny mandeha" makes no difference.

Lawyered

Back to what I wanted to say!

> Install an external script or plugin to block the HNQ bar: More of a workaround than a solution, and moves the problem to the user while the source should be fixed.

Spoilers aren't a problem with the system, they're a problem with the individual users who fear "spoilers", silly goose.

Oh nice profile picture JD

Jarko Dubbeldam

:)

"I take offense to your comment and would like a button to hide it" Try to tell to my face now that the problem is in the design, and not with me.

You confused me

Jarko Dubbeldam

@Edlothiad an appropriate response to this would be to point out that if I take something ridiculous on the website, such as that comment, and demand it to be hidden, that it is me that has the problem, and not the site. Ergo, that I should adjust my expectations.

Then continue to argue that demanding the HNQ list to be hidden falls under 'something ridiculous'

TheLethalCarrot

@Edlothiad Where's this from?

11:52 AM

@JarkoDubbeldam I wasn't sure if this was a quote or a hypothetical :D I get you now though.

-3

A: Prevent questions with movie/tv shows/game spoilers from appearing in the hot questions list

This has been a problem for several years now, and it doesn't look like we're closer to a solution. So: Let's ban at least Movies, Scifi and Arqade from the HNQ sidebar Feel free to suggest other sites too. While it has some negative effect on exchanging traffic between network sites, I think ...

TheLethalCarrot

Yup the spoiler brigade are annoying

They don't have the numerical strength to be a brigade.

Gaming (Arqade) is another major site where this is an issue — Mad Scientist Apr 16 '14 at 8:18

Spoiler Regiment? Battalion? Nopes, just a squad

This is not an issue unless you make it one.

11:55 AM

SPOILERS SQUAD!! SS!

TheLethalCarrot

@Aegon To be fair with the amount of people I see moaning about it I'd say they're coming up to an army ;P

@Edlothiad Yup and I'm pretty sure I've never seen a spoiler on Arqade

How do you spoil a video game?

Later in the game you're going to shoot 3 people instead of 2

TheLethalCarrot

Well a cutscene plot I suppose

@Edlothiad By telling you what happens next

"Watch out halfway through Ezio kills someone"

11:57 AM

@Edlothiad That's just one genre

Take the GoT game from Telltale

ERRMAGHERD I THOUGH EZIO WAS A GOOD CHRISTIAN, HE KILLS PEOPLE?!

If I tell you what happens to Asher

That's a spoiler

You think I've played that rubbish?

TheLethalCarrot

Telltale is a good example actually cos they're essentially playable stories

Nothing is a spoiler. It's an enlightenment.

11:57 AM

@Edlothiad Dunno, just an example. I have played it

@TheLethalCarrot More like an animated visual novel

TheLethalCarrot

Isn't that just a fancy way of saying what I did?

Lol

Jarko Dubbeldam

Well, if you play Harry Potter 6 the videogame, you might get spoiled if I told you Dumbledore dies

@TheLethalCarrot googling Burn units near Aegon

TheLethalCarrot

Lol

11:58 AM

@JarkoDubbeldam You mean enlightened me by telling me the future.

TheLethalCarrot

@JarkoDubbeldam ERMAH GOOOD SPOILERZZZZ!!!!!1111!!!

If something is out it's your fault.

@Edlothiad I have requested Ice. I do hope they don't get a two handed sword for me to end my life with

Jarko Dubbeldam

@Edlothiad well, I think for some things there should be a grace period of a few days

TheLethalCarrot

The grace period for something going into the HNQ is before it gets hot

11:59 AM

No tasks today.....I am bored.

That's my rule. I don't care if it didn't come out in your country that you're in, you live in the wrong country. If you had "work" or whatever. If you really cared that much, you would've seen it ASAP

TheLethalCarrot

In that time it's most likely been edited to be unspoilerish

Thinking about, GRRM asks what's Wise King Aragorn's tax policy.... But what's Jaehaerys the Wise's tax policy?

@TheLethalCarrot Searching Burn units near everyone in the spoiler Squad

@Aegon GRRM was chatting splange...

That's one of the interview answers that angers me the most.

He did all those welfare works

After a horrific civil war

The treasury must have been empty

Where did the funds come from?

More taxes?

Loans?

Or did he just wrest away assets of nobles

12:02 PM

I'd read it the first time before I'd seen or read anything, and I couldn't forget that. Irritated me so much...

Like he took the new gift from starks and gave it to NW

TheLethalCarrot

Does he ever really explain anything that he says Tolkien's work lacks?

@TheLethalCarrot Kinda

We know Robert's policy

TheLethalCarrot

Find Bessie?

Which is "Ask Littlefinger about counting coppers. More wine and find Bessie"

TheLethalCarrot

12:03 PM

Which is essentially nothing

Loans really

Borrow whatever you can from anyone you can and create a semblance of good economy

Joff relied on more taxes

So really just a handwaivy excuse.

Tommen is the same but he got assets from fallen nobles too

Robb, we don't know about Robb's policy

TheLethalCarrot

To be fair he only really uses throw away lines to say these policies

Exactly. Chatting splange...

Back to getting riled up by the Spoiler Squad

TheLethalCarrot

12:05 PM

The whole crown in debt thing too

We're 6 mil in debt but it's alright they'll let me borrow more

Spoiler Squad (183 AC, colourised)

2

Plus my Father in law is loaded so I got 99 problems including my wife but $$$ ain't one

Bobby B, the economic visionary!

This guy gets it: meta.stackexchange.com/a/229645/352120

@Aegon Bobby B 2020?

@Edlothiad 2018! Impeach the incumbent one and Get Bobby in there!

Another wise man: meta.stackexchange.com/a/229615/352120

@Aegon Feisty one, I like it.

TheLethalCarrot

12:09 PM

@Edlothiad He does

OH NO BRONZE BADGE

TheLethalCarrot

Haha! I knew it was coming for you :P

Why are my subs not subbing?

Did you ever get an answer to that Carrot?

TheLethalCarrot

I don't understand either of those questions haha

The second is fixed, the first is my <sub>s aren't subbing.

TheLethalCarrot

12:14 PM

Oh when I had that problem

It was one of the earlier <sub>s wasn't closed properly

Ye but all of mine are, no way I messed up my HTML

TheLethalCarrot

Haha you spoke to soon

Fixed it for you

OI I WAS EDITING!

I found it :/

TheLethalCarrot

Soz

Overwrite my edit then, I only fixed the tag

One upvote from a silver badge, hrrrrrrrrrngh

12:16 PM

user image

When a Byzantine Emperor marries an Ottoman

Idk why nobody suspects her.

Are you playing CK2 at work?

Also you should know by now I have no idea what's going on there.

@Edlothiad No. Reddit

Ah

I wish I could play KSP all year long

I fear when I go back to being a student that I'll just be on here and playing KSP

@Edlothiad Ottoman Empire ended Eastern Roman Empire in 1453. In the game, for some reason, the Roman Emperor married an Ottoman Princess

And then died in suspicious circumstances i.e. someone murdered him

I swear it's more funny if I don't have to explain it

TheLethalCarrot

@Edlothiad When I was a student I spent most of my time playing Skyrim haha

@Aegon Aye but we're not history buffs like you :P

Lol I love blatant attempts at cheating on SO: stackoverflow.com/q/48401562/4631427

12:21 PM

@TheLethalCarrot No ankles sprained

0

Q: Have there been any religion changes, schism, heresy or branches in religions of Planetos?

Something that I always found strange in Planetos is the fact that each religion seems united : there is no Eastern Church of the Sevens opposed to Western Church of the Sevens for exemple. This is odd to me, as when we see real life example, as Christianity or Islam, there are lots of different...

game-of-thrones a-song-of-ice-and-fire religion

@Kepotx Nice Question

@Kepotx Mouth froths

There is one heresy that I can think of off the top of my head

thanks

Jarko Dubbeldam

12:22 PM

Sparrows might be an example

the question come in y mind while playing CK2, where they split old gods religion between the North and free folks

@JarkoDubbeldam Not quite. They are a movement within the faith

So where the cathars

Jarko Dubbeldam

@Aegon based on different interpretations of doctrine and scriptures

that's how it starts :)

@Kepotx Yeah that's really silly. And their rules to ban inter-faith marriages. Had to mod those restrictions out

12:23 PM

I dont know if we have to see them as one religious order or a heresy

@Kepotx They aren't an order as such as no High Septon has ordained them like the Swords and Stars

Just one movement which seeks to purify the Faith

From perceived corruption

Jarko Dubbeldam

I think it's the closest example though

well, each religion/branches/order don't have to have a religious head

And defend the faith against others

also, the doctrine to ban corruption, wealth of church and the power of religious head lead to protestantism

Jarko Dubbeldam

12:26 PM

@Kepotx yep, I think there are some parallels

Between the high septon and the pope for example

where the first protestant saw as a new religion or just a bunch of christian that were agains the Church ?

It's hard to tell the difference between a different point of viex, an heresy, a branch and a whole new religion

Jarko Dubbeldam

@Kepotx it all depends on what side you're on

after all, as christianity is a "fork" of judaism, could'nt it be considered as a branch of judaism ? same for islam

What came first, God or Man?

Eh?

yes, it's a heresy if it's seen as is by other branches, but it's odd as there is no difference between heresy and new branche

Jarko Dubbeldam

12:29 PM

@Aegon nice answer, but do you have sources? :o

@Kepotx Precisely but that's because they didn't topple the Pope. They just went the way of schism. Sparrows made their leader the Pope i.e. The High Septon

"any sufficiently advanced sect is indistinguishable from religion"

They don't need to go down the Schism highway

@JarkoDubbeldam It's his stupid stub answers...

TheLethalCarrot

Could you argue that the Many Faced God is a branch of all the gods into one religion? If so I'm arguing that ;P

12:31 PM

@TheLethalCarrot Probably

Everythings a branch of MFG

TheLethalCarrot

Or MFG is a branch of everything

Or both :P

is'nt that syncretism rather than branches of a specific religion ?

3

Q: Have there been any changes, schism, heresy or branches of religions in Planetos?

Something that I always found strange in Planetos is the fact that each religion seems united : there is no Eastern Church of the Sevens opposed to a Western Church of the Sevens for example. This is odd to me, as when we see a real life example, as Christianity or Islam, there are lots of diffe...

game-of-thrones a-song-of-ice-and-fire religion

is Bael the bard a bot ?

TheLethalCarrot

@Kepotx From a certain point of view

And yes

Feed bot

12:35 PM

@Kepotx Nah he's just a minstrel

TheLethalCarrot

@Kepotx Though technically Egg's answer is then syncretism of Seven and Drowned God

@TheLethalCarrot The King first made it 8 gods

TheLethalCarrot

Yeah but it's the joining of both religions

Then after seeing the public reaction he was all "Oh no you misunderstood. There are 7, but ours is one of the seven too"

True

Jarko Dubbeldam

there, added the sparrows aspect

12:53 PM

yep, i consider @Aegon answer as sincretism example, but still a good example. The question was more about the "staticity" of religion in Planetos, so it cover what i want

Jarko Dubbeldam

@Kepotx I guess it is part of the mediaval stasis trope

Still digging for something GRRM may have said about this

Ok French time, then I'll test my work, then I'll see what y'all have posted as answers and consider giving votes.

@Edlothiad "I see an upvote as having little value" - Edlothiad (Few Hours Ago). For a guy who thinks of a UV as having lil value, you do think a lot before doing it :D

Well I don't upvote trash. But I'll happily give out 40 upvotes in a day if I find 40 posts worth upvoting

(given that I open everything, it's a bit surprising I don't

Also, I'm extra careful with you guys.

I need to spur competition in your answers.

« first day (630 days earlier) ← previous day next day → last day (584 days later) »

Transcript for

Jan '1823

The Quill and Tankard

General discussion of "A Song of Ice and Fire", (and that TV s...

a-song-of-ice-and-fire game-of-thrones spoilers

join this room
about this room

00:00

06:00

12:00

18:00

all times are UTC

site design / logo © 2024 Stack Exchange Inc; legal

mobile