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2:14 AM
@Kulfy it is a little off, in that it ought, in my pedantic opinion, to be "brave new world" instead of "new brave world", but I don't think it is a problem for an answer to express an opinion like that. Anyway, looks like the answer was improved thanks to your comment (maybe that comment is no longer needed?)
 
2:31 AM
hmm related to that, closing in the opposite direction to the one proposed seems at least equally good...
 
2:57 AM
OT PHP programming
 
3:34 AM
not no repro, the problem was identified from the messages in the log
no longer needed, the OP posted a self-answer
 
 
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5:48 AM
@Natty tp
 
6:09 AM
@jokerdino Maybe we could invite people to run or join workshops or something... I have a graphic designer & Linux enthusiast friend in London who is involved with the Inkscape project - I'm pretty sure he'd be happy to teach something like how to make an icon.
or people could request stuff, like how to make a deb package
that might be possible to run in a chatroom... not sure
We could use meta to set it up maybe, but if meta wouldn't work well for offering or requesting stuff like that, maybe we could use Trello or some other collaboration platform
 
@Zanna like Ubuntu classrooms? I remember we had such sessions back in the day.
 
oh really?
bbl I need to eat breakfast
 
would be nice to see if there is interest among the wider community in Ask Ubuntu
yeah, posting on meta would be a nice play
 
OT-Python programing, Already posted on SO
@Zanna Initially the candidate's answer didn't have links to bug reports. The links were added after I voted to close and commented. Now both directions look fine.
I have deleted my comment
 
6:31 AM
this is unclear I think, but what info should be requested?
 
7:04 AM
@Natty tp
 
@pomsky @kulfy we can close the newer question as duplicate and create a TOC for each versions so people can easily find the answers they need.
 
@Natty tp
 
7:29 AM
@jokerdino Sounds good.
Are they worth merging?
 
7:39 AM
@pomsky I tried filtering CV queue based on tags and close type and didn't find that question.
 
@Kulfy I suppose we could test it
 
There are also close flags, which I would expect to keep a question in the queue if they had not been handled at the time the sole close vote were retracted.
Also of interest: if a question is only in the close queue because of a low-rep user's close flag and that flag is retracted, is it removed from the queue?
 
7:58 AM
if you have enough reputation to vote to close and attempt to flag a post for closure, the dialog redirects you to the close vote menu
I am so motivated to create a sock account for testing stuff
(also, to get 3k so I can review CVs XD)
 
According to this faq: "Questions with active close votes or close flags show up in the close votes queue". I guess retracting them deactivates the CV/flags
That should make the post to disappear from the queue.
 
OT Raspbian
 
@karel Done
@Kulfy As well
 
Thanks.
 
8:11 AM
👍
 
8:29 AM
OP visited the site yesterday and I assume they have seen my comment but they didn't reply. So I think OT-norepro
Do we have something for this?
 
@Kulfy why?
 
I assume that they no longer have the issue. I would have converted my comment into an answer if OP replied.
(unrelated) Does it look worth reopening? I think at least this target's answers don't address the concern. Moreover the difference in views is ~2x.
 
8:47 AM
lol I should have refreshed the page before I watched the video, transcribed the steps, and edited the post so I would have seen the post already got deleted
 
Okay, this is now blatantly off-topic as OP uses Manjaro.
 
@Zanna How would you handle a situation where another mod closed/deleted/etc a question that you feel shouldn't have been? :P
 
@pomsky Hope this doesn't lead to an edit-war.
 
9:00 AM
@jokerdino That's sounds reasonable (but the "create a TOC for each versions" part you mentioned should be a must). I would say it's better to merge newer (source) with the older (target).
 
Should the questions with no upvoted answer be closed against the one with highly voted in light of the answer?
 
@Kulfy If I'm not mistaken, mods get notified of this kinda behaviour automatically. (cc @Zanna @jokerdino)
 
I'm not sure about this. But this surely populates the front page
 
@Kulfy hmm not sure that assumption is justified. Anyway, we are the addicts glued to the site, can't expect people who just come here to get help to respond at our pace :)
@pomsky Yeah, Community ♦ autoflags it
but I am making lunch
 
@Zanna I commented on June 24 and OP visited on June 26.
 
9:06 AM
@Kulfy the answer was very deletable at the time it got deleted, and I would not expect folks to fix that by editing. I posted it here to solicit opinions on whether it should be undeleted in its current state
in Ask Ubuntu General Room, 2 days ago, by jrg
10/10 would recommend having a life
bbl
 
@Zanna Oh well yes that's undeletable now. (Is undeletable even a word?)
 
I don't think it means what we are using it to mean, but that's ok, we can have our own language :)
@Kulfy feel free to flag it :D
 
@Kulfy Mitch deleted some answers and answerer is suspended for a week (cc @pomsky)
 
9:23 AM
Does it look like a spam and worth reporting to smokey? Pretty old answer. Username is similar to the website/app.
 
Probably it's better to migrate this question to Unix & Linux. (@Zanna @jokerdino)
@Kulfy It does kinda disclose their affiliation though.
 
9:43 AM
@Kulfy Both links are broken. One redirects to the Snapcraft page. The other looks like they lost the domain. I think it's reasonable to delete the answer. There doesn't seem to be anything in metasmoke for the product name, and SE search turns up one Ask Different question and nothing else. Given that and how it's properly disclosed, I wouldn't consider it spam.
 
9:59 AM
it's also solicited, not just promoting some random irrelevant thing but something the question requested
 
@EliahKagan Yeah it's worth deleting at least. The package doesn't seem to be in Ubuntu's official repository as well. (cc @pomsky @Zanna)
 
10:45 AM
That would also be ok. I don't think there are any good CAD programs in repo. But I do agree that answer is useless now
this one was deleted by the author, but QCAD definitely supports dwg. I drew one in it just this weekend...
 
Should it be edited and undeleted? I'm not sure what it should say. The question does also have this non-deleted answer recommending QCAD.
Or is that a different program also called QCAD?
 
11:33 AM
@EliahKagan I doubt it
The deleted answer may have been wrong at the time
I'm wondering if I should write an answer about QCAD myself
 
That sounds like a good thing to do.
 
We could edit and undelete that answer and make it up to date instead, but since it was self-deleted and I would be changing it a lot, I'm not sure that would be right
@EliahKagan :)
 
@Natty tp
@Daniil I think everyone who wanted to weigh in on the question of whether SmokeDetector should post experimental reports here has done so. No one expressed any objections, and many people were actively in favor of it. So let's do it. If you'd like to submit the PR to make the change in rooms.yml, please proceed. If you'd prefer I do so, that's no problem.
 
user435118
@EliahKagan Sure, I'll do that now
 
Thanks!
 
user435118
I'll link to that chat message above for reference?
 
user435118
@EliahKagan All experimental reasons? Or you can have specific ones disabled?
 
@Daniil That makes sense. Most of the replies appeared somewhat above or below this earlier message (or appeared much earlier but were reiterated), but it might be confusing to link to those. I can provide links to each of the message where people gave feedback if that's necessary, but I'm guessing just linking to that message should be adequate.
@Daniil All experimental reasons, please. (Still just for Ask Ubuntu, of course.)
 
user435118
12:12 PM
Ask Ubuntu Meta reports?
 
user435118
They are much less common though
 
Good question. Most of the site-specific rooms that have experimental reasons enabled have both their main and meta site enabled. I believe right now this room doesn't see any reports about Ask Ubuntu Meta -- but since we don't yet have experimental reasons enabled, there would be very, very few. There might be a bit more with experimental reasons enabled, but not many. I think we can really go either way on that. It can always be changed again if necessary.
 
user435118
So enable or disable for now?
 
I'd say enable them for Ask Ubuntu Meta. This isn't something we've discussed--I possibly should've asked people about this when asking earlier about people's preferences for experimental reports--but it seems to be the usual approach for other rooms receiving site-specific reports including experimental reports (and there are quite few of them). If people decide they don't want them, we can do another PR to turn them off.
Let's enable both experimental and non-experimental reports, both for Ask Ubuntu and for Ask Ubuntu Meta.
 
user435118
👍 I made the PR
 
12:18 PM
Thanks!
@Daniil Should site-site-askubuntu.com be site-meta-askubuntu.com?
 
user435118
 
Thanks.
I just realized I'm not 100% sure how our meta, being a child meta of a site that is not a subdomain of stackexchange.com is supposed to be designated. Looking at github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/blob/master/rooms.yml and, for other sites, their metas are designated in a different way. For example, site-gaming.meta.stackexchange.com.
Ah, I see. site-meta.askubuntu.com, with a ., is what it should be, and you already made it that. (And the experimental one is likewise correct.) Thanks!
 
2:22 PM
@Natty tp
 
@pomsky I have merged the newer question to the older question and added a small size TOC for now.
Please edit and fix them because I am unable to tell which answer is what version at this point. 🤷
@pomsky I have migrated it. But forgot to clear the comments. 😬
@Kulfy are any of them proper duplicates?
 
3:07 PM
@jokerdino Thanks, looks fine to me. I made some minor edits.
 
no-repro, temporary issue that got resolved with an update. Apparently, the OP also voted to close, surprisingly the question was not closed with it!
looks like a dupe
 
This question is certainly a dupe of this one. But since the lock message in 20.04 is different, I'm reluctant to CV in the current state. P.S.: 20.04 now waits for the lock to release after showing error and warns user to not delete lock file instead of just throwing error. These errors are essentially the same.
Should the target candidate be edited to reflect the changes since the solution is still the same? Either wait for the process or kill it or delete lock file (ignoring the warning).
 
3:58 PM
Where did all the comments go? Edit would have been just fine. — MaharshiRawal 39 mins ago
^^^ @jokerdino
 
@jokerdino sorry, I'm not sure what you were thinking would be good to post on meta - were you thinking of a general request for suggestions or were you referring to the classrooms idea specifically?
@Kulfy meh, no need for those comments
@jokerdino thanks for the tip XD
 
4:17 PM
@Zanna gone o.O
 
hahaha
 
4:40 PM
@Kulfy I deleted maybe one comment there.
Linking to their own Q&A.
@Zanna hmm, thinking of inviting community interest towards the idea of celebrating the 10 year anniversary thingie.
 
@jokerdino which had been duped to this one
 
so, a meta post of that sort would be nice, where we also put our current ideas we have in mind to hold and still asking for suggestions from community what they would like to have.
@Zanna I believe it was duped to a question which was duped to this
@Zanna what tip
 
@jokerdino this one looks promising as a target. It has a lot of different answers that seem to relate to the issues in the other posts
Does this answer to a similar question help? You can add yourself to the pulse group by running the command sudo adduser "$USER" pulse and then rebooting for it to take effect — Zanna ♦ 3 mins ago
@jokerdino oh, sorry
@jokerdino to remove the comments first
 
@jokerdino Well they posted 11 answers. Need to go through one by one.
 
@Kulfy 🧐
 
4:45 PM
I have sound!!!It worked with: sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf; Add the following line to the end of this file: options snd-hda-intel dmic_detect=0 itsfoss.com/fix-sound-ubuntu-1304-quick-tipMCI Mar 24 at 19:55
 
On 20.04, this answer sounds promising.
The answer mentioning timidity is wrong IMHO since that package isn't installed by default
The issue mentioned in this question is due to presence of sudo update-grub multiple times in /etc/default/grub. Do we have something for this? If not, I'll post an answer.
@Natty tp
 
sorry there was a power cut
I meant to say that the comment I linked to above by the OP there looks similar to this answer (although I think it would definitely be worth posting a CW answer based on that comment rather than or before closing the question as a dupe)
@jokerdino yes, sounds good
 
I don't know if any of the others could be duped to that one, or if it could be considered a dupe of Persistent Dummy Output
the OP of the Persistent Dummy Output question gave up and reinstalled and everything was fine. Seems at least 4 people liked that idea
 
@Natty ne
@Natty fp It's an answer but reposted.
 
5:33 PM
I suspect this one is a package management issue, but I'm unsure whether it can be answered, although the "reinstall the OS" solution I just mentioned would do the job haha
 
unclear?
 
Going to bed now, but I think there is a decent argument for duping any of them (only the 7 mentioned in that comment above, I have not examined the others) to this one, as that seems to have answers by everyone getting "Dummy Output" for whatever reason
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Q: Persistent Dummy Output

HelpMeeeThe soundcard I want to use is detected and works (it only recently switched to dummy output and didn't allow me to go back). HDMI is no longer listed under Audio and Video - KDE Control Module; everything under audio module is set to dummy output and its the only 'soundcard' on the list now. I c...

@Kulfy thinking about it, seems like we could probably figure out what they need to reinstall, or at least suggest how to look for that, so I think not unclear.
 
Were you talking about answer or question?
 
@Kulfy sorry, I have fixed my link, I meant the question
 
6:29 PM
I'm not sure about that one.
 
 
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7:34 PM
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not opinion-based, it's (and there is some irony here) answered in comments based on facts - could be improved, but I don't think it qualifies for any close reasons, unless it's a duplicate of something
dupe, though the answer at the target is not very detailed
^^ Maybe both are duplicates of something else with multiple answers?
 

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