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12:11 AM
 
[ Natty | Sentinel ] Link to Post Low Length; No Code Block; Low Rep; Unregistered User; 2.5;
 
1:03 AM
@EliahKagan hahaha I think "homework' should be a word that makes the comment vanish instantly on being flagged :D
 
1:18 AM
@EliahKagan I replied to the first comment as I thought that comment might make the OP give up and go away
 
1:36 AM
I think I would vote to leave that question open if I could do it lightly. If WSL is on topic then why not this thing? But maybe only the modesty of the request is what makes me favour leaving it there.
 
2:34 AM
any other tags for this question?
 
2:59 AM
not no repro - the problem seems to be well enough understood and described that it will make sense and be of some use to future readers, and also it appears to be specific to a particular Ubuntu release (compared to at least one other release) and to have a workable, if not ideal, solution (see CW answer)
@Zanna I've added a couple tags, but I'm not really sure what tags are best on that question.
not unclear, see answers
dupe, see comments
 
@EliahKagan thanks :)
 
OT, one more vote needed. I've commented as to why I believe it's off-topic even though some similar-seeming stuff in is on-topic. See also the above discussion, in this room, of that question.
 
3:26 AM
@EliahKagan w/r/t/ this, given the circumstances of the account being destroyed (and this may, I think, be generalised to other accounts that have been destroyed)...
1. My understanding is that the last paragraph of this section of the ToS takes care of any licensing issues, and if you really want to vote to undelete the content then you can do that without violating anyone's rights
2. I would very much prefer that it remain deleted
3. I can't elaborate on this
cc @Kulfy ^^
 
3:37 AM
but, asking about the general case on MSE sounds good
 
I may do that (re: the general case). I'll search first. It may be a bit before I get around to it. Hopefully I'll remember.
@Zanna On the one hand, I wasn't too worried about my own undelete votes; I just figured it might be worth looking into as a moderator, since it seemed like the circumstances might've been unusual.
Looking at those terms, it does not seem to me that the right to be attributed for content that doesn't itself violate the acceptable use policies would be limited by them, or even any rights to be attributed, but I am not sure. But I'm not too worried about it, at least as far as any cases I've seen recently go (where fair use seems to apply as well), especially as far as my own delete and undelete votes go.
@Zanna What concerns me more is that I have already voted to undelete some more such posts. I trust your judgment on this matter, I know your preference here is informed by relevant information, and I would definitely not have added my undelete votes had I known. None of these were third undelete votes, though; so far, I think none have been undeleted as a result, though I haven't gone back to check each one. I hope this has not already caused any problems.
 
I think the only one that got undeleted was undeleted by me and I'm wondering what to do about it :/
but someone will tell me I'm sure :)
@EliahKagan no problems :)
 
Obviously I don't (and shouldn't) know the relevant issues. The only thing I can think of is that moderators have access to private chat rooms with other moderators on the same site. My understanding, which I admit could be mistaken, is that most sensitive information is not supposed to be conveyed even to other sites' moderators who don't happen also to be mods on the same site, so the TL may not be appropriate.
Unless this is a extremely weird and terrible situation, my guess is that discussing it with other Ask Ubuntu mods will make an appropriate solution apparent while avoiding doing anything that shouldn't be done.
 
@EliahKagan yes :)
thanks!
 
You're welcome! (Though I don't think I really helped in any way.)
@Zanna What is our bug policy these days, in practice?
A lot of bug-related stuff that would've been closed in the past doesn't get closed now. For the most part, this seems for the better.
I feel like we must have something for this. When searching, I found this other question which was incomprehensibly closed as too localized.
I guess a mod closed it as too localized when the OP posted it on Stack Overflow after being wrongly advised that it would be better posted there? I don't know. I don't consider that question to be a good dupe target. They should probably both be duplicates of some other question.
 
4:15 AM
@EliahKagan The comments on this are confusing.
 
@EliahKagan :) that is good
 
The stronger version of the policy, covering requests for workarounds, seems to be based on an understanding of off-topic closure other than as a path to deletion. One major idea seems to have been that stuff would get closed, stick around, and have links to bug reports.
 
@EliahKagan I am quite confident that you have a better idea than I do... It seems to me that if a post seems to be a bug report, it will get closed, but also, if reviewers think it should be a bug report, it will get closed, and that seems in line with the way the close reason is written, at least. But I don't know what the specific criteria are or should be, for deciding whether something should be a bug report. (I'm ignoring the part of the policy about issues with development versions)
@EliahKagan I think we should reopen that
occasionally I look at that query we used to find posts closed as Too Localized and throw a reopen vote into it at random
seems to work
I think it could be reasonable for me to reopen those of them that are not eligible for any of our current close reasons, have useful answers, and got hammered in the first place
 
@Zanna I've voted to reopen it. With that said, should something be said or done in view of the OP's commented preference that it be deleted? I don't mean that we should actually delete it.
We should have a question about why variable expansions should usually be quoted.
At least the "too localized" question could be duped to it, and possibly the new one.
That's what I was originally looking for.
But now I think the new one is more asking about the way the variable is incremented.
This reminds me of some stuff I've written about how shell scripting languages are extremely weird. But that, IIRC, was in an answer to a question about Perl warnings about barewords arising from use of the rename command.
So that wouldn't be a good target for either of those questions.
 
4:44 AM
@EliahKagan hmm it seems that comment was the reason for the post being closed. There is no sign that the user pursued their request though. Do you think we should do anything?
 
If it were unanswered I'd either leave it be or vote to delete it (possibly with a comment about how this sort of thing is not actually too localized). As it is, I've voted to reopen it. Maybe it's best to let it make its way slowly through the queue. The answers are potentially valuable, but neither has positive score, so I think the OP should've been able to delete if they chose.
 
@EliahKagan yes... I think most users are not aware that many questions will be automatically deleted, especially if they are closed
 
@Zanna Deep learning and GPU support in WSL 2 is coming, but it hasn't been released by Microsoft yet. This would be a good question if there is anything to report, but as it stands now there is nothing to report beyond the duplicate link, which is why I close voted this question as a duplicate just to pin the duplicate link even though this question is also off topic in my opinion.
Needs focus Windows app software installation two-fer
 
@Zanna Well, it wasn't automatic back when Ask Ubuntu came into existence and many of our policies were established, right?
 
@EliahKagan oh, right, yes, that's a very good point
 
5:01 AM
I had a brief chat conversation with Shog about a change made to closing questions as duplicates--in AUGR, I believe. It had to do with the then-new inability to close questions as duplicates of unanswered questions closed off-topic as bugs. I don't remember what we said, though, and I'm having some trouble finding it. I think it had something to do with closure being a path toward deletion... but I could be mistaken.
 
IIRC, Seth has said that closing questions is the first step to deleting them
long after that, I came to the same conclusion, although not for duplicates that have useful answers of their own or are otherwise valuable (of course, roomba treats dupes as open questions)
@karel I do think the OP will find the link helpful :)
at least, I think that, if we think something has value and want to preserve it, we should not be closing it except as a dupe
that's a major reason I feel bothered by our bug policy
 
It may be good, at some point, to post on meta.
If this accepted self-answer gets another upvote, I believe it will appear above my somewhat less useful answer, which I think would be a good thing.
dupe - I've CV'd to Why isn't Ubuntu moving its repositories to old-releases anymore? (discussed above) so it'll appear as a target in the banner assuming the question is closed.
OT, I commented just in case
@EliahKagan Turns out not OT.
 
5:57 AM
@EliahKagan yes :)
thank you very much for helping me to organise my thoughts about it
 
The bug policy?
 
@EliahKagan I think so (but maybe you already saw that)
@EliahKagan sorry, I meant to click the reply button but I missed it
that is, yes I meant about the bug policy
 
@Zanna Since the edit, Stephen Kitt's answer may be the most up to date. But the title of that question is potentially misleading. Also, I'm not sure how much sense things would make if that question were duped and merged.
(It could still be duped. But the answer might be obscure. Probably still better than doing nothing.)
 
the questions seemed different to me at first look and I liked Stephen's answer even when it was partly wrong (which I didn't realise)
 
@EliahKagan Stephen Kitt is a Debian developer. His answer is up-to-date and if there is ever anything in his answer that would need to be updated in the future, he would be one of the first people to know about it.
 
6:07 AM
Seems in.archive.ubuntu.com server is down. We have multiple questions in the past few hours.
https://askubuntu.com/questions/1254036/could-not-connect-to-in-archive-ubuntu-com80-24038940fffff
https://askubuntu.com/questions/1254197/sudo-apt-get-update-fails-from-india
https://askubuntu.com/questions/1254193/cannot-connect-to-repository-ubuntu-20-04
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Url-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at beginning of body, +8 more (637): supplementsnetwork.org/trim-fast-keto/ by nuaz maxz on askubuntu.com
 
6:44 AM
@Natty tp
 
7:25 AM
Some Error Occurred on this post
 
@Natty tp
 
hmm, why would an error occur after Natty reports it?
 
@jokerdino I don't know, but it happens fairly often. As far as I know, when that's reported in this room, it's always right after the post actually is reported in this room. Maybe it's an error with one of the detections, causing that detection to be skipped?
@Natty tp
@Natty tp
 
8:20 AM
@jokerdino another one
 
@Natty tp
 
8:59 AM
Since we are using this question as the dupe target for the questions about server being down, should the answer be edited to add instructions for server/GUI-less installations as the issue isn't specific to Desktop installations?
 
Yes.
Or close it as a duplicate of something that has that information already, if there is something.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad ip for hostname in body, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, +4 more (593): VidaGenex Keto Burn : Self Motivation For Fat Via Cooking by leaeyjamtoms on askubuntu.com
 
I think I should edit the answer and append, "For server installations, see askubuntu.com/a/1198631/816190"
Opinions?
 
I assume you mean some other link, since that link is to the answer that (if I understand you correctly) you're planning to edit, which doesn't have information about how to do it without a GUI.
Besides that--assuming the actual intended target link has the information--that sounds good.
Further action can always be taken afterwards. Better an imperfect solution that isn't causing any problems than no solution.
 
9:10 AM
@Natty tp
 
I'm thinking to edit this answer to include the link to this question. (I pasted wrong link previously)
 
Sounds good.
 
9:45 AM
@EliahKagan I thought Bhargav said those were posts Natty would automatically flag if it could?
 
Oh.
I was not aware of that.
So is Natty actually attempting to raise NAA flags outside Stack Overflow through the SE API, but failing on Ask Ubuntu because it only has 1 rep here?
 
10:05 AM
I think he said its autoflagging is just turned off... let me see if I can find the conversation; I might have dreamed it or something
Apr 6 '18 at 8:30, by Bhargav Rao
Oh, damn. Do ignore these "Some Error Occured" messages (even the typo there). I added them to collect stats. I don't want to turn them off. :-( .... (whenever you see that, it implies that Nat would have automatically flagged them, if possible)
starts here ^
 
Thanks.
 
10:25 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer (62): Copy files from a server via ssh to dropbox. by SimpleBackups on askubuntu.com
 
10:39 AM
dupe in.archive.ubuntu.com server is down.
 
@Natty tp
 
@Natty tp
 
12:30 PM
dupe also too broad
 
I am out of edits. :( hate when that happens when I am in the middle of First Post reviews
 
12:58 PM
@SasukeUchiha This one was not really a useful suggestion, tbh it made the answer a bit worse.
The arrow (-->) was certainly not a part of the command.
If you're unsure how exactly a command/code should go, it's better not to tinker with it.
Also the changing "us" to "use" was a wrong move.
@pomsky Just a friendly tip :)
(even though I'm not completely sure if it's a valid/right answer)
 
I have rejected this edit with a custom message, "Issue is not specific to 20.04."
Also the question is dupe
 
No-repro, as per the self-answer below, OP solved the problem by re-installing Ubuntu. So we would never know what kind of problems there were with the config of the OP's previous user session. — pomsky 17 mins ago
unclear, behaviour sounds very inconsistent with the mentioned Ubuntu version. Either the system is messed up too much (perhaps due to customisation) or OP is wrong about the release, errors etc. No response to vanadium's or my queries.
 
1:18 PM
Is this useful? Essentially this is same as this answer in the question linked in the other answer.
 
@pomsky Oops, sorry, already posted this a few hours ago. But the OP's comment is not helpful, feels like OP just don't want to have it closed at any cost. The answers are quite identical.
@Kulfy I would say it doesn't cause any harm
 
@pomsky That use was by autocorrect sorry. I did put us there
 
@pomsky Yeah. But I think I should edit it to remove things like ipv6 since it doesn't make sense there
 
@SasukeUchiha Please consider deleting this comment, it's technically not correct.
@Kulfy that sounds useful
 
@pomsky My mistake. Should have known that. I thought I excluded that but I was interrupted while editing by my brother.
@pomsky I know. Thanks. Still got a lot to learn I guess
@pomsky Done. Now I think you should delete yours too
 
1:29 PM
@SasukeUchiha did already
 
@pomsky 👍
Wow. spams don't last more than a minute here
 
Can anyone please downvote this NAA? (already had +1)
 
Done.
 
thanks
 
2:28 PM
@Kulfy I have a hunch that you haven't voted on the questions for VTC I mentioned yesterday starting from here.
If that is the case and if you're going to vote on the one mentioned in this one, could you please check whether both the targets are added before voting? Thanks.
(it's an unfortunate limitation of the system that after voting it doesn't let us see the subsequent VTC reasons by others)
 
@pomsky o.O
 
2:48 PM
@pomsky I didn't at look older messages today since I was having a headache. Now feeling better. Will vote now.
 
@Zanna I understand. Moreover access to moderator tools also mentions, "Make sure what is being deleted should have been deleted, and bring unnecessary or harmful deletions to the attention of the community and/or moderator team.". But IMO this case is different. The posts weren't deleted by the community members or the mod or the author themselves. Instead they were deleted because OP's account was destroyed.
If that were deleted by earlier ones, I would have never bumped them. But I think the questions were wrongly deleted as a result of account destructions. They aren't spam either and some are acceptable questions. The thing is I was really concerned about those questions.
I can also understand your take on those posts as a mod.
 
@Kulfy I absolutely did not intend any criticism of your actions. I'm sorry if my comments came across that way.
I must have put it wrongly
sorry for that
 
3:06 PM
No need to be sorry. Neither I meant to criticise your actions/words. I can understand your position as a mod. I as a normal user can make mistakes but you can't after all you're a leader. I guess the last vote would decide the fate of the post which IMO would the decision of the community.
I hope my words didn't sound like targeting or rude.
 
I'm not a leader, or at least that's not at all how I see it. But I need to go moderate the household environment now
wields mop
 
@Natty tp
@Zanna :D
(unrelated) dupe
dupe please add 2nd dupe target from my comment.
 
3:30 PM
@Kulfy can you supply me with the links so I can have a look?
 
@jokerdino Links to the questions which I believe were wrongly deleted?
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer, username similar to website in answer (122): Firefox won't play MP4 by The Bloggeram on askubuntu.com
 
yeah, the thing being discussed.
 
They are just 5-6 in numbers. I have listed them from here. terdon also suggested to keep some of them deleted.
@Natty tp spam
 
3:42 PM
@Kulfy those things.. deleted for a reason. Naughty group of people.
 
I would love to hear your take on this.
 
fake-y questions created by sock/meat puppet to boost certain people. You can see what I'm talking about if you see the question and answer timings.
 
Oh well. I missed that thing. One answerer is common in almost all the questions and other answerer appeared in 2 questions. Answers were posted within 4-10 mins. o.O
 
🤫
 
:D
dupe. The error OP reported in comments seems to be because they tried to run David's script without downloading/creating it.
 
4:14 PM
@jokerdino The emoji just reminded me to ask a question on main to get emojis working on GNOME's keyboard.
(unrelated) seems dupe considering python3-pip is in Universe and python3-setuptools is in main. OP has added bionic's repositories in focal following the advice from SO's question linked in the comments.
^^^ I have commented on the answer since it's a bad idea to use bionic repositories in focal.
 
@EliahKagan The title of the target seems to be misleading and based on wrong assumptions. Should it be edited?
@Natty why
 
@Kulfy The NAA Value is 4.5. The explanation for the filters is:
2.0 - Contains Blacklisted Word - did not work
-0.5 - Low Length
0.5 - No Code Block
1.5 - Contains Salutation - Regards
0.0 - IntelliBL - -1.4
1.0 - Low Rep
 
@Natty fp
dupe targets mentioned in karel's comment and my comment. target suggested by N0rbert doesn't make sense right now. OP's is also on the verge of completely breaking their OS
 
 
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5:55 PM
 
@Natty fp
 
@Kulfy If it's going to be used, by itself, as a dupe target, and not itself be duped to something else, then I'd say yes.
Otherwise, probably not.
 
@Kulfy That question is just on-topic. I've voted to reopen it.
 
6:01 PM
Thanks.
@EliahKagan If this question is to be closed as dupe of that one, then an edit is required IMO but I think we should leave both open for now.
@Kulfy The comments are also no longer needed.
 
I think it is justified to edit the answers, or at least the top-voted answer, to Can I skip over releases when upgrading? It has a comment from me:
Highly related: Why does do-release-upgrade skip a version? (It's not just for LTS-to-LTS upgrades!) — Eliah Kagan Nov 30 '17 at 12:23
But still almost no one is aware of this.
I guess it would be best to post on meta before doing the edit.
 
Yeah
I mean, I myself was not aware.
But I am preferring reinstall instead of upgrading these days.
and sticking to LTS as much as possible.
 
These days I use LTS or Ubuntu+1, rarely a stable non-LTS release.
 
6:18 PM
BTW, 10 year anniversity for our website is coming up. I feel we can do something to celebrate the occasion?
 
Maybe they meant "supported path". Upgrading from 18.10 to 19.10 isn't supported without hacking the tools.
 
No, but my comment is confusing on that issue.
 
@jokerdino Hold another elections. :P
 
Skipping unsupported releases is officially supported and automatically offered. Hacking the tools is no more likely to be necessary to do it than with any other upgrade.
 
Upgrading the Debian way isn't tested I guess. It may/may not work.
 
6:20 PM
However, it was never supported to upgrade from 18.10 to 19.10, because 19.10 went EOL before 19.04, so it was never the case that 18.10 and 19.10 were supported but 19.04 wasn't. So no upgrade tool ever supported that particular upgrade.
@Kulfy Right, and that is not what I am talking about.
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Q: Why does `do-release-upgrade` skip a version?

Mark KirbyI answered this question about do-release-upgrade not allowing an upgrade of 14.10 to 15.04 only to 15.10, I assumed it was due to 15.04 being end of life. A user (@xangua ) posted that it was not possible to skip a release with do-release-upgrade, so I looked in to this information by running t...

 
@EliahKagan Did you mean "19.04 went EOL before 19.10" instead of "19.10 went EOL before 19.04"?
Sometimes I find my question highly relevant when people suggest upgrading Debian Way.
For example here:
The Debian way is neither recommended nor a tested method to upgrade a Ubuntu release. Upgrading that way may cause many obsolete packages residing in the system. Also, since default Python version in Ubuntu varies from release to release, it may happen that you'll get completely broken python since if you observe closely, while upgrading using Ubuntu's upgrade tool, DPKG holds some packages to avoid dependency issues. Related: Is editing sources.list a good idea?Kulfy Jun 24 at 17:12
 
@Kulfy Yes I did.
No, sorry, I didn't.
I meant, 18.10 went EOL before 19.04.
I've replaced my comment.
Hopefully I managed to get the wording in my comment correct.
 
@Kulfy But I feel there should be something on the site for my question as well.
 
I'm not sure I follow. There certainly should be something on the site for your question. But there is: your question!
Do you just mean you think your question is valuable? If so, I very much agree.
 
No. I meant there should be something on the site which can serve as a dupe target for my question.
Sorry for the confusion
I didn't mean to advertise my question. I felt that may be relevant for the ongoing discussion.
 
6:33 PM
That's my bad. I say that all the time--I ask, "Do we have something for this?"--so it is strange I didn't understand that's what you meant. Sorry about that.
But why do you think your question is probably a duplicate of something else?
 
I asked question in Aug 2018 and I doubt that someone should've also asked something like that in the past. The Debian way vs. Ubuntu upgrade tool isn't a new thing I believe.
 
@Kulfy Yes, it is relevant. I just didn't want that to be confused with upgrades that skip unsupported releases to get between supported releases, which unlike any technique involving manually editing /etc/apt/sources.list is supported.
@Kulfy Oh. Yes, probably, but it may well be that the answers on your question are more useful, such that it would be better to close the older questions as duplicates of it. Hard to be sure.
 
(unrelated) I rejected this edit since it adds unnecessary bold formatting which I think isn't required.
 
I rejected it and fixed I typo I should've noticed previously.
 
OT seems OP is using Kali app. But this could be a general question applicable to Ubuntu as well.
 
6:44 PM
It's also unclear.
 
no longer unclear. Once reopened, it can be closed against this one
 
RO vote added.
 
@Kulfy the idea is to increase so much activity by having awesome events commemorating the anniversary and then calling for another election :P
 
Asking a meta questions like, "What brought you here? What made you to stick for so long?" ?
(unrelated) The third dupe target here is completely irrelevant. @jokerdino Would you be interested in removing that one from the list, please?
How can I fix apt error “W: Target Packages … is configured multiple times”?
 
7:01 PM
what about the second one?
 
Errr.. The order is different in banner and timeline. I'm not sure which one is the seconf one for you.
 
askubuntu.com/questions/961094/… →https://askubuntu.com/questions/114429/default-save-directory-for-gnome-screenshot/1075441?noredirect=1#comment2118380_1075441
Are they dupes ^
 
(unrelated) misplaced answer. in.archive.ubuntu.com is now up.
 
@Kulfy I did edit it.
@Kulfy somewhere at the end, answer mentions keepnote
 
@jokerdino Thanks.
@jokerdino Changing mirrors wouldn't make any sense I guess.
I have commented.
 
7:34 PM
seems opinion instead of an answer. You are welcome to new brave world of modern GNOME Shell "desktop". seems little off tbh
Do we have something for this? (cc @pomsky)
 
7:49 PM
@Kulfy there's this one, which direction do you prefer? I don't mind either.
@Kulfy That's quite expected from that user, but I would say the answer is fine otherwise as it lists both a reference confirming the change of behaviour and also a workaround.
 
@pomsky I don't think it's a dupe of that one. The icon there seems more like of a document but here it's like a shared library or some configuration file. Neither the answer mentions some references such as the article about the change or the bug reports.
@jokerdino Seems to be but I'm not sure which direction to prefer.
 
8:12 PM
@Kulfy I think that's just because the underlying DE is different (GNOME 3 vs. MATE) and more importantly that's not the focus of the questions. Both the questions seem to about the change of behaviour in Nautilus from older versions.
Previously, after visiting /usr/share/application in Nautilus, one would find launchers for installed apps with proper names and icons, and the launchers would work fine (double-click would launch the associated application). Now they're appearing as bare files with a .desktop suffix and double-clicking just opens a file in the text editor. That's what both the questions seem to describe.
 
Hmm. I see..
 
@Kulfy You probably missed it, but this answer links to this bug-report, which I referred as "a reference confirming the change of behaviour" in my previous comment.
 
I would prefer askubuntu.com/q/1228334/816190 -> askubuntu.com/q/1254375/816190 since the latter one includes links and is better IMO
 
@Kulfy So do I.
 
@pomsky Nope. i didn't miss that. I was talking about the one you mentioned
Upvoted the answer and voted to close as dupe in the direction mentioned above.
 
8:19 PM
@Kulfy Ah, I see. I didn't check both the answers by that time. For the questions I'm happy with any of the directions, that's what I meant.
 
Sorry if you got confused.
 
@Kulfy Good call, also consider leaving a comment below the older question (or edit the auto-comment) mentioning why we prefer this direction.
 
I'm not sure if they would ever accept the dupe target since in the past they didn't.
 
"since the latter one includes links and is better"
@Kulfy Well, I can just do our part :)
 
@pomsky Yeah was doing that only. The time to edit comment expired meanwhile. I deleted the previous comment and added a new one.
Let me know if there's something I missed.
 
8:33 PM
@Kulfy Looks fine to me. I also edited the target.
 
Looks great. Thanks.
 
@Kulfy Not-so-helpful response as expected :D
I think it's reasonable now to ask them to delete the answer posted to the question that they feel should be closed.
That would help future reviewers to VTC properly avoiding a VTC-crossfire.
 
I have left a comment:
The quality and the ease to search the posts matter. For example, when I was new to Ask Ubuntu, I remember once David Foerster commented on one of my posts, "Duplicates are marked irrespective of the dates posted. Duplicates are considered on the quality of posts." See these related meta posts: Why is it allowed for an older question to be marked as a duplicate of a newer question? and Should I vote to close a duplicate question, even though it's much newer, and has more up to date answers?Kulfy 53 secs ago
Now they have added links for bug reports -_-
@pomsky They retracted the CV
@Kulfy good idea, thanks for it! I was thinking about Q&A as bug-reports. You have refreshed my mind :) — N0rbert 2 mins ago
 
8:51 PM
@Kulfy great!
 
Hmm.. Are they convinced?
 
@Kulfy Can't say for sure, at least they helped avoiding a VTC-crossfire for now. That's big plus.
 
Indeed.
Just curious to know if retracting the only CV makes the question to disappear from review queue.
 
@Natty tp
 
@Kulfy Doesn't it? :O
@jokerdino The problem with these two questions is that the top two answers of the older questions simply shows how to change the auto-save directory using dconf (or gconf for older versions) and apparently doing only that was enough at the time the question (and the answers) was posted.
But along the line a bug (actually a design choice by GNOME devs) got introduced which made those two answers inadequate for newer GNOME versions.
So I'm also not sure closing in which direction would be better (or whether closing is helpful at all).
 
@Natty tp
@Natty tp
 
9:47 PM
unclear or dupe
deletable, not really a useful signpost. The answer looks incomplete and wrong too (vanilla Ubuntu 18.04 or 20.04 have much higher minimum RAM requirements).
 
10:02 PM
 
10:21 PM
^^ mild rant, won't achieve anything being posted below this question
Probably a bug needs to be reported to the concerned app developers, asking them to supply a .desktop launcher following freedesktop standards.
 
10:50 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at beginning of answer (34): Cannot install library by Cole on askubuntu.com
 
11:05 PM
@pomsky I wouldn't flag that comment. It's not distracting from anything, it's not rude, and it gives useful information. The language it uses could easily be rude if directed toward an individual person, but it does not use it that way. It expresses criticism of a design decision. It's no more of a rant than it's a rant when answers advise people to quote their variables. Unless the claim "This issue didn't exist in earlier versions" isn't actually true, I don't see a problem here.
 
11:40 PM
@EliahKagan "This issue didn't exist in earlier versions I remember being able to previously browse for another application" is a problematic claim though, and most likely is wrong in the sense that it's application-specific.
Browsing for applications is still possible (see the screenshot in the question), and it lists (or should list) all the applications whose .desktop launchers have the correct formatting to handle URL or file-paths, listing all possible launchers is not really feasible.
Given that this specific application in the question is a non-standard application installed via not-trivial means, the problem is most certainly with the launcher the application source provided or OP created.
Unless I'm missing something, the comment sounds to me based on the commenter's lack of understanding.
 
There wasn't a UI change? I recall there was at one time some kind of browse button on that dialog, other than "Find applications online". Is that not correct?
 
@EliahKagan There was I believe, but if I remember correctly it used to list a handful apps which are most suitable based on the mime-type and then the browse button would expose all others that can handle paths. But I don't think it included all possible launchers.
^^ But take it with a grain of salt, I might be having a bad case of false memory.
 
11:57 PM
I don't want to insist that flagging that comment is objectively wrong. In my mind, the comment is reasonable in that it has conveys "relevant but minor or transient information." However, I admit that it is quite different from the official examples of that.
 

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