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Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
00:36
no improvement
unclear
Natty
Natty
00:58
[ Natty | Sentinel ] software-installation When I use sudo pip to install software I get the message "the directory... is not owned by the current user" By: chuxxsss 4.0;
Natty
Natty
01:32
[ Natty | Sentinel ] drivers iwlwifi driver issue with ubuntu 20.4 By: HeUbD 8.5;
Some Error Occurred on this post
Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
@Natty tp
@Natty tp
dupe
Natty
Natty
[ Natty | Sentinel ] sound low volume and poor sound quality on lenovo thinkpad 7th generation x1 carbon with dolby atmos speaker system and ubuntu 20.04 By: Alejandro Miranda 5.0;
Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
@Natty tp
 
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Kulfy
Kulfy
04:49
seems dupe
Zanna
Zanna
Hmm
Seems a lot of potential in that question
Kulfy
Kulfy
Seems like 2 questions in one question. "I have created a mess of Python packages." and "there is some advice online that package managers like conda are non-intrusive, and if I install one, the packages I install there won't interfere with the ones installed with pip and apt"
Zanna
Zanna
I'm not sure the current answers to the target really cover it, though it would probably be reasonable to write an answer that does to the target
@Kulfy I see that as a "what should I have done instead?" Which could reasonably be included in an answer
Maybe
Kulfy
Kulfy
Python 2 isn't installed by default in 18.04 and later releases. 20.04 even has python-is-python3 package which makes python3 as "default" python.
May be I should comment to ask for clarity.
Kulfy
Kulfy
05:30
@Natty report askubuntu.com/a/1250125/816190
Natty
Natty
[ Natty | Sentinel ] Link to Post Low Length; No Code Block; Low Rep; Unregistered User; 3.0;
Kulfy
Kulfy
@pomsky I use Vanilla GNOME. The virtual keyboard seems different from Ubuntu GNOME's keyboard. It doesn't have emoji switch. Is there anyway to switch the keyboard or enable emoji switch in Vanilla GNOME's keyboard?
Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
@Kulfy The python-is-python3 package isn't installed by default, though, is it?
Kulfy
Kulfy
Yeah it isn't installed by default. It's an optional package.
Kulfy
Kulfy
05:47
seems dupe
dupe
Zanna
Zanna
06:08
Is there any documentation of the shift to python 3 on our site?
Natty
Natty
06:26
[ Natty | Sentinel ] system-installation How do I recover my lost Windows 10? By: Wayno 3.5;
Kulfy
Kulfy
07:05
no longer needed
no longer needed
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Aren't deleted posts removed in data dumps?
jokerdino
jokerdino
> The data is updated early every Sunday morning around 3:00 UTC. The last update was 1 hour ago.
Kulfy
Kulfy
both comments no longer needed
@jokerdino Isn't it 3 UTC already? The query is still showing posts removed by Community bot.
jokerdino
jokerdino
@Kulfy which query?
Kulfy
Kulfy
no longer needed
@jokerdino This one
Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
@Kulfy Can a reworded version of this reply be edited into the answer?
Maybe that's not necessary.
Zanna
Zanna
07:15
@Kulfy yes, the deleted posts are in another table with limited data
that table is PostsWithDeleted
it has a field for user ID but that field is empty!
jokerdino
jokerdino
@Kulfy lots of deleted posts in there. shame
Kulfy
Kulfy
@EliahKagan "OP merely needs to execute them": I guess this is only relevant part of the comment.
@Zanna Does that mean Posts table now shouldn't have deleted posts?
Zanna
Zanna
@jokerdino are you sure it has been done?
sometimes it is late
@Kulfy yes
Kulfy
Kulfy
Hmm. But those posts are still there.
jokerdino
jokerdino
@Zanna that's what the FAQ says.
Kulfy
Kulfy
07:17
@jokerdino I look forward to resume helping roomba once data dump is completed.
jokerdino
jokerdino
uhmm
Zanna
Zanna
I seem to remember several occasions when the data dump was late or otherwise at a different time or different day
@Zanna I mention this only because I wasted a lot of time trying to fix a query that used that field. After turning it inside out a few times and finding nothing wrong with the logic whichever way I looked at it, I finally had the idea of printing out all the fields to see if they had the expected things. Shows what a huge noob I am to coding anything :)
Kulfy
Kulfy
dupe Or a CW answer can also be posted from comments. But this question haven't got any anony votes so far.
no longer neeeded
Why was this deleted last month?
Does it look like an answer?
Are Chrome and Chromium bases browsers responsible for GPUCache as claimed by this answer?
both comments are no longer needed
The questions which are being looked by heynnema sometimes need massive cleanup in comments section :/
jokerdino
jokerdino
there's autoflag if comments exceed 20
Kulfy
Kulfy
Almost all comments are no longer needed in this question
I remember Thomas asked them to use "move to chat" dialog and not to engage in long discussions in comments section only. But they seem to prefer comments section.
jokerdino
jokerdino
07:34
purge everything if the question is answered
Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
@Kulfy I'm not sure that link always appears when it seems like it ought to.
Kulfy
Kulfy
no longer needed
jokerdino
jokerdino
At least mods get the button 💪
Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
@Kulfy I've voted to reopen the question (see my comment).
@jokerdino The solution is to make more mods.
Also I am hoping the button to move comments to chat has a "💪" icon on it.
Kulfy
Kulfy
@EliahKagan If I'm correct if more than 2 users are engaging, it takes more time/comments to appear. But they do the same even if they are the only one engaging. I'm not targeting anyone but sometimes this creates a lot of noise on the site.
Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
07:36
Yeah, I think it's cases with more than two that I'm thinking of actually.
Where it doesn't appears as soon as one might like.
Zanna
Zanna
does the button ever appear if one of the users hasn't got enough reputation to chat?
jokerdino
jokerdino
yes
Kulfy
Kulfy
@EliahKagan I was the last one to CV. OP never replied to the comments and it seems like a case of "hit and run" but at least it won't be considered as abandoned. Nevertheless, I have voted to reopen.
Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
I'm going by the paths.
Kulfy
Kulfy
Should it be considered as answer? It's more like "reinstall the system".
Zanna
Zanna
07:43
I consider that an answer
Kulfy
Kulfy
seems unclear. I'm not sure which of the three answers would help.
Zanna
Zanna
answer by muru = answered
Kulfy
Kulfy
All three comments are no longer needed on this answer
Both comments are no longer needed
seems like an okish answer
@Natty report askubuntu.com/a/1215360/816190
Natty
Natty
[ Natty | Sentinel ] Link to Post Low Length; No Code Block; Low Rep; 2.5;
Kulfy
Kulfy
All comments are no longer needed
jokerdino
jokerdino
07:50
Sorry, anyone here knows how to make graphs in data.SE?
Kulfy
Kulfy
first 3 comments on this answer are no longer needed given the answer is highly voted.
@jokerdino I didn't know data.SE supports graphs
jokerdino
jokerdino
@Kulfy welcome aboard
Kulfy
Kulfy
Well IMO you can run query, have CSV, open in LibreOffice or MS Excel and create graphs there.
jokerdino
jokerdino
D:
Zanna
Zanna
@jokerdino it becomes automatically available if you have the right column type combinations
see just below this section data.stackexchange.com/help#magic-columns
but I have not actually attempted it
what data would you like to graph?
jokerdino
jokerdino
07:54
Questions asked in the year 2020, questions with answers and without.
maybe it does not do much
Zanna
Zanna
ok I'll give it a try
jokerdino
jokerdino
I just wanted to fiddle with it and it goes beyond my head
Kulfy
Kulfy
Is it worthy to undelete answers that were highly voted and got deleted by OP
jokerdino
jokerdino
Depends™
Zanna
Zanna
oh you want to do it yourself :)
Kulfy
Kulfy
07:59
Last 3 out of 4 comments are no longer needed. Last one is just an opinion and "isn't supported" is a valid answer.
@jokerdino What your take on this answer
@jokerdino Let me know if the mod flag queue gets heavily populated. I'll stop flagging comments :)
jokerdino
jokerdino
it's in single digits
so it doesn't matter
Kulfy
Kulfy
But I have 15 flags pending :P
jokerdino
jokerdino
@Kulfy the comments in that answer is claiming this answer has damaged their system?
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at beginning of answer (33): How to install ubuntu and remove windows by hanspi02 on askubuntu.com
Kulfy
Kulfy
I didn't read comments. I just saw the upvotes ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
jokerdino
jokerdino
08:04
🧐
Maybe y'all are familiar with this already, but I found a bunch of queries.
Zanna
Zanna
@jokerdino woah cool!
jokerdino
jokerdino
Linked in that page -- More queries
Kulfy
Kulfy
08:22
dupe
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at beginning of answer (33): How to install ubuntu and remove windows by hanspi02 on askubuntu.com
Kulfy
Kulfy
all comments are no longer needed
Natty
Natty
[ Natty | Sentinel ] 18.04 gpg: problem with the agent: Permission denied By: jueti 3.5;
Kulfy
Kulfy
no longer needed: askubuntu.com/questions/986350/…, askubuntu.com/questions/986350/…, askubuntu.com/questions/986350/…
jokerdino
jokerdino
flag it unless you are out of flag votes
Kulfy
Kulfy
08:36
More flags would make comments to get deleted automatically I guess.
Zanna
Zanna
just flag all comments by EC ;)
Kulfy
Kulfy
EC?
jokerdino
jokerdino
Evan Carroll
Kulfy
Kulfy
What is CommunityOwnedDate in PostsWithDeleted?
@jokerdino evancarroll.net :P
Zanna
Zanna
@Kulfy the documentation is very brief but I think it is the date when a post became a community wiki
that field is in the Posts table as well
Kulfy
Kulfy
08:50
I see. Thanks for the docs.
Zanna
Zanna
they are not that helpful :/
Kulfy
Kulfy
Execution Timeout Expired. The timeout period elapsed prior to completion of the operation or the server is not responding. o.O
SELECT * from PostsWithDeleted :P
Kulfy
Kulfy
09:21
Community bot seems to have deleted ~400 abandoned questions which were an year old.
Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
I had voted to reject this edit but now I think that may have been a mistake. The edit appears correct, and I may have too hastily concluded that it conflicted with the intent of the post.
Natty
Natty
09:48
[ Natty | Sentinel ] themes Elementary Dark Theme for Geany (GTK3) By: Petar Georgiev 5.0;
Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
@Natty tp
 
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karel
karel
11:18
OT - abandoned questions: 1 2 3 4
Natty
Natty
11:48
[ Natty | Sentinel ] streaming Binge.com.au video streams not working on Ubuntu 20.04 By: JAUS 5.5;
Natty
Natty
12:31
[ Natty | Sentinel ] 16.04 VBoxManage is unable to start vm code NS_ERROR_FAILURE ubuntu 16.04 By: bugz 5.0;
Natty
Natty
13:20
[ Natty | Sentinel ] webcam How to turn on the integrated webcam? By: Valerie Polsky 3.5;
 
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Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
16:00
@Natty tp
@Natty ne @Kulfy Regarding your comment, that was never a link-only answer.
Kulfy
Kulfy
Thanks for pointing out. Deleted.
jokerdino
jokerdino
16:16
The unicode number for right arrow is 2192 →
Ctrl + Shift + U + 2192 →
Zanna
Zanna
←
Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
no improvement - this edit removed some important information (the citations to the AWK script!) and makes other information far less clear (the input to the AWK script)
jokerdino
jokerdino
℈
Natty
Natty
[ Natty | Sentinel ] 12.04 Dell Laptop's Bluetooth isn't detected by Ubuntu By: Quagmire 4.0;
Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
⟶
Zanna
Zanna
16:22
➵
jokerdino
jokerdino
@EliahKagan cool arrow, what's the number?
Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
@Natty tp
Zanna
Zanna
I also want to know. The normal arrow is so small it looks like I need to clean my screen
Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
27F6
jokerdino
jokerdino
⟶ cool
Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
16:24
xahlee.info/comp/unicode_arrows.html
Of course there is always $\longrightarrow$. :)
@Zanna The one thing to be aware of with "⟶" is what happens when it's formatted as code an thus shown in a monospace font: "⟶"
Zanna
Zanna
@EliahKagan yep, that's the one for me
@EliahKagan wipes screen
well it's better than stretching all the other characters to fit the arrow...
Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
I'm used to the arrow head becoming extremely small for that. But I guess in the font used here in chat the arrow-heads are already extremely small.
@Zanna Since you can render TeX with MathJax (because you have a userscript for it), you can copy the resulting glyph in a browser. That's not just a convenience way of getting it, though. That glyph is the same 27F6 as "⟶". When rendered from TeX, it appears better because MathJax also applies a different style.
Zanna
Zanna
yay for MathJax
Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
Why would this help?
Why was this question upvoted?
jokerdino
jokerdino
maybe misclick
Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
16:34
This question must be a dupe of something. Can it just be closed as a duplicate of How do I install Ubuntu? I believe Ubuntu MATE still uses Ubiquity list most flavors, not Calamares like new releases of Lubuntu.
pomsky
pomsky
17:01
@Kulfy I'm not sure. Do they look like the same keyboard with only difference being the emoji key? Or is one them Caribou and the other being Onboard?
Zanna
Zanna
17:17
@EliahKagan o.O
Kulfy
Kulfy
17:30
@pomsky This is what I have on login screen and this is what I have in my user session.
Why this query is now Stack Overflow's query?
This is weird. Sometimes it shows SO and sometimes AU while accessing from my edit history.
On a lighter note the query is now returning 1917 rows which means about ~144 posts were deleted by Community yesterday.
jokerdino
jokerdino
@Kulfy data.stackexchange.com/askubuntu/query/1248327/…
Kulfy
Kulfy
17:46
Now in my edit history, they're pointing to data.se.com/askubuntu. Is it a bug?
Natty
Natty
[ Natty | Sentinel ] virtualbox "Command not found" when running guest additions. xubuntu 14.04 By: Matthew Kim 3.5;
Kulfy
Kulfy
@Natty tp
Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
@Natty tp
Is this question a duplicate? All I've found is that question but I thought we had something specifically about that particular error.
Kulfy
Kulfy
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A: How to fix "not a valid identifier" error after setting environment variables?

Eliah Kagan but after setting the environmental variables It looks like you did not do that correctly. The errors you're getting mean that the paths (like /home/john/android) are being used as the names of variables, rather than as the values assigned to them. The correct syntax to assign a variable ...

Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
Thanks! I knew there was something! :)
I've voted to close it with that as the dupe target.
Kulfy
Kulfy
17:56
Wait!!! You don't have bash gold badge?
Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
I do not. Just command-line. (And discussion on meta.)
I don't have enough bash answers for the gold bash badge.
pomsky
pomsky
@Kulfy Hmm... not sure, the one from the login screen looks like Caribou. Did you check whether you have Onboard installed?
Kulfy
Kulfy
Ah. Still need to answer 275 questions.
Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
Just 75. (Out of a required total of 200.)
Kulfy
Kulfy
@pomsky What's the package name for that?
pomsky
pomsky
17:59
@Kulfy onboard and caribou
Kulfy
Kulfy
@EliahKagan Sorry. I don't know why I was thinking of 400. Thanks for correcting.
Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
No problem.
Kulfy
Kulfy
@pomsky apt list --installed | grep onboard doesn't produce any result.
Both aren't installed o.O
pomsky
pomsky
Strange!
Kulfy
Kulfy
I do have keyboard-configuration installed.
Zanna
Zanna
18:02
@Kulfy if you log in again, it often defaults to Stack Overflow, but I am not sure of the exact details. Generally I find SEDE behaves like it's juggling cookies
Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
This old question can be closed as a duplicate of something with better, more thorough answers, right?
Zanna
Zanna
there is a box under the [Run Query] button to change the site it runs on
(well, there is for me anyway)
Kulfy
Kulfy
454
Q: How do I add environment variables?

huffI'm running Ubuntu 11.04. I use the terminal to start a bash session, and I want to add an environment variable: $r@hajt:~$ env THEVAR=/example But it's not working. It shows all the variables with THEVAR being the last one, but another call to env does not show THEVAR anymore- env | grep THEV...

bash
This one?
Zanna
Zanna
why is there so much disagreement about where and how to set environment variables?
Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
@Zanna If not, one can change the site name in the query URL from stackoverflow to askubuntu (or just ubuntu which will redirect to the same URL but with it expanded to askubuntu).
@Kulfy I think I was thinking of something else, maybe something that addressed why .bash_profile is rarely used for this (or at all) in Ubuntu... but really that's the best target. So I've duped it to that. Thanks! We can add more targets as well if any others are clearly useful.
Zanna
Zanna
18:06
@EliahKagan that may actually be easier when your browser is running slow - those automatic search-as-you-type boxes are sometimes so laggy
Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
I always do it that way.
Kulfy
Kulfy
Switching site is fine but I was curious that why data.se changes site everytime I login.
jokerdino
jokerdino
that's why I never login
Zanna
Zanna
I sometimes wonder if SEDE is so tricky just to keep us on our toes
jokerdino
jokerdino
I bookmark the link and go straight there
Kulfy
Kulfy
18:08
@jokerdino Then bear the pain of captcha
jokerdino
jokerdino
it's recaptcha
Kulfy
Kulfy
It's sometimes frustrating on shared connections.
Good catch :)
Zanna
Zanna
@EliahKagan is this person using WSL?
It probably makes no difference at all in this case
was just thinking of any tags to add
Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
dupe
@Zanna I don't know. Either way, they shouldn't set environment variables in ~./bashrc.
Zanna
Zanna
:)
@EliahKagan closed :D
Kulfy
Kulfy
18:17
naa
Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
@Natty report askubuntu.com/a/1250315/22949
Natty
Natty
[ Natty | Sentinel ] Link to Post Contains Blacklisted Word - Any help; Ends with ?; Low Length; IntelliBL - 0.4; Low Rep; Self Answer; 1.5;
jokerdino
jokerdino
I have this button that lets me convert an answer to edit if the poster is same as the question owner.
Kulfy
Kulfy
And edit summary as "Appended 000000 as supplemental"
jokerdino
jokerdino
yeah
Kulfy
Kulfy
18:22
seems dupe of this one
Zanna
Zanna
Where do they find space for all these buttons I wonder
Kulfy
Kulfy
May be mods need 2 monitor setup ;-)
(unrelated) This answer was posted on other question as well. Should one question be closed as dupe of another?
Zanna
Zanna
I don't think so because there could be solutions that work on one and not the other
pomsky
pomsky
Sorry to sound negative, but I'm quite sure now despite having a high rep, the OP of this question doesn't understand how the site and the community works.
Also not an easy user to deal with, as they often come off as someone who is not at all open to suggestions.
jokerdino
jokerdino
user image
pomsky
pomsky
18:32
@EliahKagan Do you remember a few months ago you raised an issue in this room, how they categorically denied your request to clarify their question with a comment "what does it matter what I have tried?"?
jokerdino
jokerdino
I have enough space for all the buttons.
pomsky
pomsky
Of course you were right at that time realising that it was an XY-question and it was absolutely essential to know what exactly they wanted to achieve, what they tried and how it failed (see the comments below my answer (which I'm pretty sure they downvoted), which is surely a valid answer to their question as it was posted, but it of course it was not what they were trying to achieve).
After wasting everyone's time, finally they posted another question, thankfully this time with the details.
jokerdino
jokerdino
@pomsky I thought it was fixit7
pomsky
pomsky
@jokerdino I feel fixit7 often fails to understand things, but I always felt they always politely accept and welcome suggestions.
Kulfy
Kulfy
@pomsky And they agreed that it's a dupe.
jokerdino
jokerdino
18:36
there was a new question from fixit7 today I think
pomsky
pomsky
@Kulfy Not immediately without making a fuss, see the comments to get a slight idea.
jokerdino
jokerdino
Assume good faith y'all.
pomsky
pomsky
Anyway, sorry for this whining, I feel a bit bitter today.
jokerdino
jokerdino
@pomsky anyway, I did not fully understand that meta post. Which answer got edited after it was closed as duplicate? Where did karel answer anything?
Is the person saying the answer was duplicated instead of the question itself being closed as duplicates?
Kulfy
Kulfy
Are they accusing the other answerer for plagiarism?
jokerdino
jokerdino
18:42
Are we also going to close that question Cameron linked in the meta post?
Kulfy
Kulfy
I'll rather hold off my CV for now. I believe that'll heat up arguments. I'll wait for the meta post to get cleared and answered.
jokerdino
jokerdino
@Kulfy no, Cameron claims the manpages has the same solution as his answer
pomsky
pomsky
@jokerdino I think they're talking about this answer. They somehow believe this answer plagiarised their own answer as it was edited 2 days ago (by Community bot, that routine formatting edit). Another indicator that they don't understand how things work at all as they really think it's karel's answer.
Kulfy
Kulfy
@jokerdino OK so they are accusing manpage?
jokerdino
jokerdino
Regardless, the question they answered was asked today. The edit to the other question was made not today.
There is no clash of timeline as far as I can see.
pomsky
pomsky
18:47
@jokerdino One more indicator... :D
jokerdino
jokerdino
They have also linked to another question which I think we should close as duplicate and also look through any other question they have answered and close them as well.
Kulfy
Kulfy
They have already added an answer on the target.
jokerdino
jokerdino
Oh no, that answer probably copied their previous answer, therefore this is the duplicated of the duplicate target, which was unfairly shut down.
Kulfy
Kulfy
They must read Zanna's answer on their older question.
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A: Possible Duplicate Post, How to reserve an answer?

ZannaDon't do that. If the post is not a duplicate, and really deserves a unique answer, and trying to reopen it by voting to reopen, commenting, editing etc has failed, then solicit support in chat or post on meta to get it reopened. For me, someone wanting to post an answer is nearly always enough ...

jokerdino
jokerdino
DPP mhmm
Kulfy
Kulfy
18:52
(unrelated) dupe
dupe
Kulfy
Kulfy
19:19
Since duplicate banners and comments have changed last year, should a new answer be posted on this meta question?
or closed as no-repro or tagged with status-completed?
Eliah Kagan
Eliah Kagan
20:23
@Kulfy It shouldn't be closed as no repro. We don't actually have that on meta, and also it's not for things that are merely currently non-reproducible for historical reasons. It might be closeable as a duplicate of something else. A moderator could add status-completed if that's considered to apply. Posting an answer would be fine and is probably a good idea.
@pomsky Yes, though I don't remember the details.
Yes.
Is something going on with that now?
pomsky
pomsky
21:03
@EliahKagan No, nothing with that one. The OP posted this meta question.
I was just whining about it. :p
My message chain actually started with this one
Then carried on with this one
Natty
Natty
21:24
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22:17
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SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
22:55
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of body (99): SOLVED - Is there a way to remove a character from multiple file names ✏️ by RallyDarkstrike on askubuntu.com

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