Vedanta and Philosophy - 2017-05-01

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Keshav Srinivasan

1:19 AM

@Tezz @TheDestroyer I just came back from Baahubali 2. It was fantastic! Even better than the first one.

@TheDestroyer By the way, I didn't like the songs in this one. Like I didn't like the song about Krishna and I didn't like the "Jai Sa, Rudra Sa" chant. But I liked the Shiva Tandava Stotram at the end. But the story was great, better than the first one. The only part of the movie I didn't like is the comedy part in the beginning. The comedy part lasted too long.

@KeshavSrinivasan 'Missiles', 'Telescopes', 'Dharma themselves fight'.... Guess these 3 things in the movie... haha

@KeshavSrinivasan what I think is one should watch Bahubali 2 first and in the last 30 minutes he should stop watching Bahubali 2 and should watch Bahubali 1 and then again start rest part of Bahubali 2... movie completes then... haha...

1 hour later…

2:57 AM

@KeshavSrinivasan @Tezz @TheDestroyer Vedanta and philosophy has turned into screening room for some hours huh?😋

@Yogi Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan.

@KeshavSrinivasan What? That chant was great in the audio.

@SreeCharan Really?... I didn't know... 😀😀

3:16 AM

श्रीमते रामानुजाय नमः

Ramanujacharya Jayanti

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> लक्ष्मीनाथ समारंभाम् नाथ यामुन मध्यमाम् ।
अस्मदाचार्य पर्यन्ताम् वन्दे गुरु परम्पराम् ॥

@Tezz This was reply to which message?

@SreeCharan @KeshavSrinivasan @Yogi @anuvaramban chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/37078668#37078668 :)

@SwiftPushkar Didn't abandon anyone. I was out of station

@SreeCharan for this : ' Vedanta and philosophy has turned into screening room for some hours huh?😋'

@Tezz You talked about movies.

3:22 AM

@SreeCharan haha.. Yeah... 😀😀

@Tezz I asked to edit your question because you were saying "Are there interpretations by someone"? The person who casted a vote might think it would attract opinion based answers.

@SreeCharan by default it is understood that someone means some recognisable person not anyone...

Keshav Srinivasan

4:09 AM

@Tezz Yeah, someone should edit things to put the flashbacks and present-day parts in chronological order.

@SreeCharan I didn't like it, it sounded like rap to me.

4:37 AM

@KeshavSrinivasan Vannakam! Who was Periya Nambi?

Keshav Srinivasan

5:16 AM

@Pandya He was Ramanujacharya's guru. Ramanujacharya went to Sri Rangam to become a shishya of Yamunacharya. But when he arrived in Sri Rangam, Yamunacharya had just passed away. So instead Ramanujacharya became a shishya of five disciples of Yamunacharya.

@Pandya They each taught him different aspects of Sri Vaishnavism, like one taught him about the Ashtakshari mantra, one taught him about the Dvaya mantra, one taught him about the Charama Shloka, one taught him about the Alwars' poems, and one taught him about the Ramayana.

@Pandya Out of all of them Ramanujacharya's main guru was Yamunacharya's shishya Periya Nambi. He's the one that did the Samashrayanam ritual (the initiation ritual for Pancharatra) for Ramanujacharya.

@Pandya Periya Nambi's Sanskrit name is Mahapurna, by the way.

@Pandya Oh, and Periya Nambi had his eyes plucked out by the Chola king.

@KeshavSrinivasan Ok. Nice Information :)

Keshav Srinivasan

@Pandya By the way, when Ramanujacharya arrived in Sri Rangam, Yamunacharya's body was holding up three fingers, denoting the three things that Yamunacharya wanted to do in his life but didn't get a chance to do. The three things were 1. Write a Sri Vaishnava commentary on the Brahma Sutras 2. Write a Sri Vaishnava commentar on Nammalwar's Thiruvaimozhi 3. Name someone after Vyasa's father Parashara, the author of the Vishnu Purana, which was Yamunacharya's favorite Purana.

@KeshavSrinivasan Yeah. Songs and background music were bit dissappointing.

No Sanskrit Chorus in part 2.

@KeshavSrinivasan Yes, you told me that couple of times.

Keshav Srinivasan

5:32 AM

@Pandya Ramanujacharya fulfilled the first one by writing the Sri Bhashya. He fulfilled the second one by having his shishya Thirukurugai Piran Pillan write a 6000 verse commentary on the Thiruvaimozhi. And he fulfilled the third one by having his shishya Kurathalwan name his son Parashara Bhattar, who ultimately became the head of the Sri Vaishnava sect after the time of Ramanujacharya.

@Pandya Thirukurugai Piran Pillan, by the way, was the son of Ramanujacharya's maternal uncle Thirumalai Nambi. Thirumalai Nambi was one of Yamunacharya's shishyas, and he's the one who taught Ramanujacharya about the Ramayana.

Btw, while searching "Ramanujacharya" on Google, I found:

P.M Modi's Speech about Sri Ramanujacharya at Redfort on 70th Independence Day

Keshav Srinivasan

@Pandya By the way, Ramanujacharya wasn't actually against the caste system, but the reason why he's often associated with "equality" is that Sri Vaishnavas emphasize the path of Sharanagati, and unlike Bhakti Yoga, Sharanagati has no caste restrictions.

5:50 AM

@SreeCharan - Haha 😀 That was just a joke , I was bored yesterday afternoon , so decided to tease u people 👍👍😉

I think @KeshavSrinivasan would be a perfect guide if one wants to do Ph.D on Sri Vaishnava Sampradaya! Haha

@Pandya - Yes , infact Phd. in Hinduism we can say 😊👍👍

Swami Vivekananda praise Sri Ramanujacharya (INCARNATION OF ADISESHA)

@Pandya this video is also good.

Keshav Srinivasan

@Pandya Haha

@Pandya ::

Sep 30 '16 at 6:09, by Keshav Srinivasan

@Mr_Green I finished Bachelors and Masters, now I'm planning on doing PhD.

Nov 22 '16 at 15:32, by Keshav Srinivasan

@Mr_Green I'm applying for PhD now.

6:01 AM

@Tezz - hmm nice find 👍👍👏👏

@SwiftPushkar haha... 😀😀😀

@KeshavSrinivasan It is heyssa rudrassa heysarabhadrasamudrassa

@SreeCharan Yes, it is interesting Vivekananda's quotes on Ramanujacharya: I'll read. swamivivekanandaquotes.org/2013/11/…

Hail o fierce one! Mighty protector of the ocean. This is a rough translation

@Tezz Haha! ; @KeshavSrinivasan Which area you're doing Ph.D on?

Keshav Srinivasan

6:05 AM

@SreeCharan All I heard in the movie was Hey Sa Rudra Sa

@KeshavSrinivasan It is a Sanskrit chorus

@Tezz Why don't you reply to specific message when you use mobile?

@SreeCharan Only Sanskrit Chorus in movie. But part 1 had lots of Sanskrit lyrics.

@SreeCharan because I use simpler browser for faster access...I do not use the option... view full site... so I can't reply specific message...

@Tezz you can message even from mobile chat.

@Tezz I will post a question on invocatory verse to ganesha /cc @SwiftPushkar @Keshav @TheDestroyer @Pandya

6:09 AM

@SreeCharan what verse?

@TheDestroyer Yes... I generally message from mobile chat...

Keshav Srinivasan

@Pandya I'm studying physics and math.

@SreeCharan Ok... which verse?...

@SreeCharan - ok 👍👍 interesting , waiting for that 😊

@SreeCharan Suspense suspense... haha...

6:11 AM

@TheDestroyer I don't have Sanskrit verse but a translation. That is very similar to @KeshavSrinivasan's 5 arms question @Tezz @SwiftPushkar

@Tezz Yeah. Waiting eagerly.😊

@TheDestroyer haha... waiting like Katappa Suspense...

@SreeCharan - ok

@Tezz I think it is complicated (like chain of events in Kattappa). So, it could be same here. Haha.

@TheDestroyer haha...

@TheDestroyer chain of event... chain of iron... haha...

Keshav Srinivasan

6:17 AM

@SreeCharan You mean this question?

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Q: What scriptures describe Ganesha having five hands?

The term "Shaivite" is overused nowadays. For instance, Iyer Brahmins are often called Shaivites, but they're actually followers of Adi Shankaracharya's Smartha sect (which I discuss here and here), and simply adopt Shiva as their Ishta Devata. True philosophical Shaivism is relatively rare nowad...

mythology ganesha shaivism shaiva-siddhanta

Hari Sharnam Shri Hari Sharanam....

6:44 AM

@KeshavSrinivasan Yes. But there are additional features too

Keshav Srinivasan

@SreeCharan OK, I look forward to your question.

@KeshavSrinivasan But I am confused about the title of the question

7:13 AM

@KeshavSrinivasan I think I will copy the first paragraph of your question. "The term shaivate is overused these days." :D

7:44 AM

@KeshavSrinivasan @Yogi @SreeCharan @all Happy Ramanuja Jayanthi!

@anuvaramban Adiyen Ramanuja Dasan

@SreeCharan what did you do special today?

@anuvaramban - Yes , Happy Shree Guru Ramanuja Jayanti to you and to all 🙏💐🌷🌻

@SreeCharan Azhwar EmperumAnar Desikar ThiruvadigaLE Potri!

^ @SwiftPushkar

@anuvaramban Nothing special. I had many plans

7:53 AM

@SreeCharan The song is Mathe Malayadwaja :D

Didn't fulfil any

@SreeCharan Same here :( I wanted to be in SriPerumbadur, didn't get the oppurtunity :( :(

8:19 AM

@anuvaramban - What is the meaning of that , I can't understand Tamil 😊

@SwiftPushkar It means "Let us praise & surrender to the Exalted Feet of Azhwar (meaning all the Azhwars), EmperumAnar (which is a title given by Thirukoshtiyur Nambi to Bhagavad RamanujAcharya) and Vedanta Desikar (referred to as Desikar)"

@anuvaramban - ohh ok , and what is the word Desikar , is it a suname or a upadhi ?

@SwiftPushkar Desikar means guru. words end with r in tamil when given respect

@SwiftPushkar It is a title conferred onto him.

@SwiftPushkar Like @SreeCharan says, Desikar means Guru or Acharya and Sri Vedanta Desikar is referred to simply as Desikar in the same way that SriRanganatha Perumaal is referred to as Perumaal or SriRanganatha's Kovil in SriRangam as just Kovil. It is a sign of respect asserting reverence by not necessitating an additional adage when referring to them respectively.

@anuvaramban - ohh , it's a title , I wanted to ask this to someone from long , thanks 😊👍👍

Keshav Srinivasan

9:00 AM

@anuvaramban Happy Ramanujacharya Jayanthi!

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12:04 PM

@anuvaramban Can you translate this?

விநாயகர் காப்பு
ஐந்து கரத்தனை யானை முகத்தனை
இந்தின் இளம்பிறை போலும் எயிற்றனை
நந்தி மகன்தனை ஞானக் கொழுந்தினைப்
புந்தியில் வைத்தடி போற்றுகின் றேனே.

Vināyakar kāppu
aintu karattaṉai yāṉai mukattaṉai
intiṉ iḷampiṟai pōlum eyiṟṟaṉai
nanti makaṉtaṉai ñāṉak koḻuntiṉaip
puntiyil vaittaṭi pōṟṟukiṉ ṟēṉē.

Is this same as below translation?

He who has the five hands and the elephant's face,
Whose tusk is even as the crescent moon,
The son of Nandi, the Flower of Wisdom,
Him I cherish in thought, His feet adore.

shaivam.org/thirumurai/tenth-thirumurai/298/…

@SreeCharan ^^^

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Q: Which scriptures describe Vināyaka as son of Nandi?

Shaiva Siddhanta is based on the Shaiva Agamas and the poems of the 63 Nāyanārs . One of those 63 Nāyanārs is Saint Tirumūlar and also one of the 18 Siddhars and also a Yogi himself. His work Tirumantiram is the tenth of the twelve volumes of the Tirumurai, the key texts of Shaiva Siddhanta. He i...

ganesha shaivism shaiva-siddhanta

12:22 PM

Shiva Temple in Kauai, Hawaii

@TheDestroyer @SreeCharan @KeshavSrinivasan - What to do abt. aby's question , he has edited and made it clear that he wants the quote which says this is the reason women are not allowed in temples.It seems this is diff. question.Shall we retract close votes?

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Q: Where is it mentioned about story and reason for women periods (menstruation) in our religious texts?

I came across a story in which once Brihaspati left Indra and due to that Indra appointed another Brahmin for a Yagna and since he was half Asur (born from Asur mother, therefore, he made Yagna Aahuti in favour of Asuras. When Indra came to know of this he killed him and but then Indra got the s...

@TheDestroyer I was looking for the same poem . Thanks

@SwiftPushkar question needs an edit too

12:43 PM

@SreeCharan - you mean title?

Yeah.

1:11 PM

@SreeCharan You can edit the question with poem. I am searching for all stories of Ganesha in Puranas.

1:39 PM

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Q: Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare

Recently, I've seen Hare Krishna people with their mantra on the emblem and I've found it may be a quite interesting to code golf it. The challenge Write the Hare Krishna mantra, i.e.: Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare Winning criteri...

code-golf string kolmogorov-complexity

@TheDestroyer Is it the correct poem?

In tamil?

1:50 PM

@SreeCharan lol.

@SreeCharan yes.

2 hours later…

4:06 PM

@SreeCharan I had seen it before 2 days. (And tried to improve one of the answer)

@KeshavSrinivasan who is B Natarajan... ?..

@KeshavSrinivasan who is B Natarajan... ?..

4:30 PM

I moved to #21 on overall reputation.

Keshav Srinivasan

5:16 PM

@Tezz B. Natarajan was a Shaiva Siddhanta scholar who died in the 80's and who wrote a translation of Tirumular's Tirumantiram.

@SreeCharan What were you previously?

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7:41 PM

@KeshavSrinivasan Obviously #22 :D :P

Keshav Srinivasan

8:19 PM

@SreeCharan Oh, I didn't know if you moved up or down.

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