Vedanta and Philosophy

Tezz

1:05 AM

@Pandya that is the Sanskrit text mentioning names of 64 Siddhis ie. Relevant portion you needed...

@KeshavSrinivasan Oh... interesting question....!!

Keshav Srinivasan

2:23 AM

@Tezz Have you heard of fire eclipses before?

@Tezz For a moment I got excited that you found a list of 64 Siddhis or magical powers. But you were just talking about the 64 arts, haha

anuvaramban

2:42 AM

@KeshavSrinivasan Thanks for being clearer. This is exactly what i was looking for.

Pandya

7:40 AM

@Tezz Yes, I mean it is the scanned image/photo whereas I want in the text format.

@KeshavSrinivasan Sanatan Dharama (As far as I know, not any specific Sampradaya). Btw should one follow particular Sampradaya?

Btw,

Apr 17 at 14:58, by Keshav Srinivasan

@Pandya The real meaning of the riddle is "If a Jiva dwells in Samsara, what will it experience and where will it reside." And Nammalwar's answer means "In its natural state it will experience the fruits of Samsara and it will continue to reside in Samsara forever." That is the necessity for Sharanagati.

Pandya

8:19 AM

yesterday, by Sree Charan

Yeah. the real answer is " if the Jeeva is a realized soul, it will conte
mplate on the Paramatma and will live in this divine consciousness. If not, it will endure the fruits of good and bad Karma that results from its actions born out of sensory perceptions and will remain caught in the cycle of births and deaths."

@KeshavSrinivasan @SreeCharan "the Jeeva is a realized soul, it will contemplate on the Paramatma and will live in this divine consciousness." -- This look the concept of Brahma-Jnana rather than Sharanagati.

Sree Charan

@Pandya If jiva is realised i.e., if he knows the divine consciousness, it will tend to live there.

Sharanagati is the way to reach consciousness.

Apr 16 at 7:16, by Sree Charan

Jiva 1. who attains(JIva) 2. Where does he attain or who he attains(Paramatma) 3.Through what means should he attain 4. For what reason he attains 5. What are the obstacles jiva is facing to attain the attained(Paramatma).

2 is the jiva

3 is the sharanagati

Pandya

@SreeCharan why is only Saranagati way? (I mean how can we say that Nammalwar mean Saranagati and not Brahma Jnana?)

Sree Charan

@Pandya It is clear from his pasurams(poems) in tiruvaimozhi

Pandya

@SreeCharan ok

@SreeCharan Btw, many times I feel Jnana & Bhakti/Saranagati the same things.

Krishn Shweta

8:59 AM

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Q: What is thirumuruga thirumangalya yagam?

What is a pooja conducted at pradaosham called thirumuruga thirumangalya yagam? Pradosham conducted in temple. Below are the pics

@SreeCharan @TheDestroyer Looks like Shiva and Pravathi are there behind Linga. Not Kumara swami

hi

Hello

aap kaise h

Awesome!! And you?

great

anything new here to talk

Krishn Shweta

9:07 AM

What are your interests?

Sree Charan

Hey @microbuster How you doing?

@Krishn Hello

Krishn Shweta

Hello..

Sree Charan

@KrishnShweta OP talked about tirumuruga tirumangalya yagnam

Krishn Shweta

Means?

Sree Charan

Muruga means kumara swami

Krishn Shweta

9:12 AM

Oh OK. But I was saying about picture.

Sree Charan

Also by observing the tilakam the idol had, it looks like Kumara swami

Parvati has other type of tilakam

Krishn Shweta

Moon is also there na.

Sree Charan

Apr 24 at 8:29, by Sree Charan

@TheDestroyer I think it is kumara but I am confused with the moon.

micro buster

@SreeCharan great

Sree Charan

What are you doing in a frozen room?

हिन्दी मंच

micro buster

9:16 AM

@KrishnShweta hmmm seems like something new

Krishn Shweta

@SreeCharan Ah!! I missed that conversation. I just saw yours and Destroyers comments in that post.

micro buster

it was my favorite room and i am automatically conacted to it by clicking rejoin

Sree Charan

looks like you have many favorite rooms.

micro buster

yeh

Sree Charan

@KrishnShweta What are you reading now?

Krishn Shweta

9:23 AM

Nothing. I'll start SB after 1 month.

But @SreeCharan I want to complete it as soon as possible.

@SreeCharan I was afraid about this question.

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Q: Are revenge and punishment allowed in hinduism?

In Mahabharata, Shree krishna tells Arjuna to destroy his enemies and brothers. He reminds Arjuna of how draupadi was insulted and everything. He tells that punishing the sinful is the duty of Kshatriyas and it's not sin. If so, can someone take revenge and punish someone who has done some wrong ...

mahabharata krishna dharma

Sree Charan

9:46 AM

@KrishnShweta ? Why?

Krishn Shweta

@SreeCharan It gave negative thoughts. Punishing others etc...

Sree Charan

Punishing bad people is not negative.

Krishn Shweta

@SreeCharan Nice profile pic. But here it is displaying your previous pic only.

Sree Charan

@KrishnShweta It takes time to change in chat

Krishn Shweta

@SreeCharan Ok

anuvaramban

11:20 AM

@SreeCharan Stellar DP!

Pandya

12:17 PM

So, ultimately @SreeCharan comes with Sri Ramanujacharya's Avatar!

Sree Charan

@Pandya Yeah. 😊😊

I know why you put Sri in italics. @Pandya

@anuvaramban 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

Pandya

@SreeCharan Hmm.. Actually I use to remember like: Sri Sampradaya, Sri Ramanujacharya, Sri Bhashya etc.

Sree Charan

@Pandya What did you add?

Pandya

@SreeCharan animated for you! :)

Sree Charan

Animated using?

Pandya

12:30 PM

Using online tool.

Sree Charan

Oh!

Pandya

What did you think?

Sree Charan

Some syntax to add animation

Pandya

Oh! No, there is no such feature.

@SreeCharan Have you read Vedarth Sangrah?

Sree Charan

@Pandya No. But I have it in my computer.

Pandya

12:35 PM

Ok.

Sree Charan

BTw u look like a kid in ur profile pic .:) @PremPradhan. — Rickross yesterday

anuvaramban

@SreeCharan Channeling Bhagavad RamanujAcharya for his ThiruNakshatram?

Sree Charan

@anuvaramban Don't know . What about you?

are you going toSri Perumbudur?

anuvaramban

@SreeCharan I did go on the starting day of Brahmotsavam, even though i felt so many inauspicious signs came in my way.

@SreeCharan But once there, it was peace.

Sree Charan

What happened?

anuvaramban

12:44 PM

@SreeCharan Like when i stepped out of house, i hurt my little toe, things like that. I nevertheless was determined.

@SreeCharan It was a beautiful scene at the temple

@SreeCharan There was ghoshti chanting of Naalayiram and I got to see his resplendent vigraham upclose after that, and got Chadaari as well as prasadam.

Sree Charan

Cool!

anuvaramban

@SreeCharan I got to see the Jeeyar of Andavan Ashram as well :)

when he was near the vigraham when we had gone there.

Sree Charan

1:24 PM

Hey @MetaEd What brings you here? another chat flag?

Keshav Srinivasan

2:18 PM

@Pandya Sharanagati is not the only way to Moksha. You can also attain Moksha through Bhakti Yoga, although that's far more difficult.

@Pandya You can read the Vedartha Sangraha here: estudantedavedanta.net/Vedartha-Sangraha.pdf It's the only philosophical work of Ramanujacharya that is not a commentary. So it's similar to the Upadesa Sahasri in that respect.

Pandya

@KeshavSrinivasan We discussed earlier on Vedartha Sangraha, I found it, I was just asking whether Sree Charan has read it.

Keshav Srinivasan

2:35 PM

@Pandya Oh ok. By the way, here is a list of all of Ramanujacharya's (surviving) works: the Sri Bhashya, Bhagavad Gita Bhashya, Vedartha Sangraha, Vedanta Sara, Vedanta Dipa, Sri Ranga Gadyam, Vaikuntha Gadyam, Sharanagati Gadyam, and Nitya Grantham.

@Pandya The Sri Ranga Gadyam, Vaikuntha Gadyam, and Sharanagati Gadyam are three poems that are collectively referred to as the Gadyatrayam.

Pandya

@KeshavSrinivasan Yes, I remember you told me:

Apr 5 at 13:13, by Keshav Srinivasan

@Pandya By the way, Ramanujacharya wrote three commentaries on the Brahma Sutras: the Sri Bhashya, the Vedanta Sara, and the Vedanta Deepa.

Mar 4 at 16:34, by Keshav Srinivasan

@Pandya Ramanujacharya only composed three hymns: the Sri Ranga Gadyam, the Sharanagati Gadyam, and the Vaikuntha Gadyam. Collectively they're known as the Gadya Trayam.

Keshav Srinivasan

@Pandya The only work of Ramanujacharya I haven't read is the Nitya Grantham, which is a text describing the daily activities that Sri Vaishnavas should do.

@Pandya Because I haven't found an English translation.

@Pandya By the way, all of the works I mentioned are in Sanskrit. Ramanujacharya also wrote Tamil works, but they're all lost.

@Pandya The only surviving Tamil words of Ramanujacharya we have are invocatory verses composed by him which are embedded in the Naalayira Divya Prabandham.

Tezz

@KeshavSrinivasan No, I haven't heard of Fire eclipse before...

@KeshavSrinivasan oh sorry for arts I wrote Siddhis...

Keshav Srinivasan

2:57 PM

@Tezz By the way, did you see the astronomical text chapter I posted:

yesterday, by Keshav Srinivasan

@Tezz You may be interested in this chapter of Lalla's Shishyavriddhida Tantra, which is a famous 8th century Hindu astronomical work: http://gdurl.com/JaoM In this chapter Lalla' tries to refutes various "false theories" in astronomy. Most of the theories he refutes are things taken from Hindu scripture, like Rahu swallowing up the Sun and Moon, the Earth being supported on the back of a turtle or serpent, etc.

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