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23:00
@JonasTeuwen My tutor was talking about dealing with operators whose eigenvalues lie in some (sector?) of $\mathbb{C}$?
A sector?
@BrianMScott How would I ping Norbert? I cannot comment on his answer since it is deleted.
Oh, the $\mathcal H^\infty$ calculus? 8-).
@BenjaminLim It was just a pun anyway: calculus (plural calculi) is Latin for 'pebble'.
@robjohn As a comment to the question or to your answer.
23:02
@JonasTeuwen I really don't know about it.
@BrianMScott Now that's something interesting before this I never knew what the meaning of the word $calculus$ was.
@BenjaminLim Well, it's basically all the stuff about the $f(T)$. But then for different $f$.
@BenjaminLim As I recall, in a mathematical sense it referred originally to the pebbles used for abacus-like computation.
@JonasTeuwen No wiki article on H infinity calculus?
@BenjaminLim No.
Maybe I'll write one in the near future. Let me write that down.
any articles for people with knowledge of only finite dimensional spaces?
23:05
Well, those are quite boring on finite-dimensional spaces.
@BrianMScott Right. I will be taking an analysis class in the coming semester :D
Then your linear operators are matrices. Then you have for example for a matrix $A$ $\mathrm{e}^{tA}$ defined as the power series $$\mathrm{e}^{tA} = \sum_{n = 0}^\infty \frac{t^n A^n}{n!}.$$
I'm sure you know that one.
@JonasTeuwen yes.
@Norbert hi there
Well, that is a very basic functional calculus :-).
23:06
Someone has invited me?
Ok, i will return it back
@Norbert, I didn't mean that you should delete your answer, It might be useful for others than the OP
What does OP means?
I feel bad that you deleted your answer if it was due to my comment.
Original Poster. The person who asked the question.
Original poster
23:09
Nice I was always wondering...
Goodnight people.. See you tomorrow!
G’night!
Sweet dreams
@BenjaminLim So now. We can have trouble on infinite-dimensional spaces where our operators are not continuous, then something as simple as a power series usually doesn't work.
23:10
afk brb
I'd like to compare the functional calculus $f(T)$ to overloading the operator $f$ (as in programming).
@JonasTeuwen I know that in infinite dimensional spaces it is possible for a linear operator to not be continuous?
That’s right: for continuity you need it to be bounded.
@BenjaminLim Sure. Consider the differentiation operator $Tf = f'$ on the space of continuously differentiable functions.
And so you might understand that unbounded operators are quite important in the field of (partial) differential equations.
23:15
@JonasTeuwen I'm looking at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discontinuous_linear_map and these seem pretty interesting.
@BenjaminLim You could better look at "unbounded operator".
@BrianMScott I guess I'll have to wait a year before getting to learn this stuff.
@BenjaminLim Oh, that is a nice article too.
I'm not sure if an undergraduate course on functional analysis would do unbounded operators. At least not here.
@JonasTeuwen One thing I find is that whenever I work in analysis my mind has one mode of thinking, algebra another.
As for unbounded operators. Are there any books on quantum mechanics which have a complete description of basics, using unbounded operators? As far as I know bounded are not fit for purposes of physics.
23:19
@BenjaminLim Isn't that normal?
@Norbert I have asked a question about that. Let me look it up.
@JonasTeuwen haha, although I got to say algebra is a lot more abstract (at least for me).
If I want to prove the BCT I can draw balls and stuff on paper but drawing Spec$(\mathbb{Z}[x])$?
@JonasTeuwen thanks
i'm now downloading Johnny's mathematical foundations of QM
@Norbert Sorry, I had a call from my wife and I needed to go afk for a bit.
23:27
@robjohn This is my first chating in my life, and not on my naitive language. Please don't use abbreviations, actually I don't know what afk means
I don’t either, but I’m guessing from context that it’s away from [k]omputer; brb has to be be right back.
@robjohn And don't apologies for that comment. It is not necessary to make such efforts
@BrianMScott Thanks for clarifying
@Brian "keyboard", not "komputer"
@Norbert Ah, AFK = Away From Keyboard :-)
Ah, of course. Thanks. (Here I was thinking that it was a foreign-influenced abbreviation.)
23:31
And the infamous PEBKAC :-).
I had to look that one up: Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair.
AFK BRB sounds like a cat getting sick... when you're just saying that you are going Away From your Keyboard and you'll Be Right Back.
I like the German DBDDHKP.
@Norbert if you like chatting, and you spend some time here, you might want to install the MathJax bookmarklet. It allows you to read things like $\int_0^\infty e^{-x}\mathrm{d}x$.
Does anyone know from where originated iff abbreviation?
23:35
You can look here
I don't know where iff = if and only if originated.
Bye guys, I'm going away now have to do some stuff.
@robjohn You too kind to have such an avatar
But this page talks about iff
The problem of russian language that we have no such a shortcut. In mathematical text we had write - тогда и только тогда когда
@BenjaminLim bye
@Norbert: actually this answers your question, I think.
23:38
@robjohn Halmos I believe :-).
@JonasTeuwen That is what it says here :-)
Oh! Kelley.
@robjohn I don't think I like "iff", it somehow minimizes the importance of the statement to me.
I just read JM's starred comment. Now he's gone and ruined Citizen Kane, Star Wars, and Soylent Green for me :-p
@JonasTeuwen it certainly is faster to type.
@robjohn Sure. Then replace "iff" -> "if and only if" :-).
s/iff/if and only if
probably need escapes in there
@Tom hi there. You seem to be in a lot of chat rooms :-)
23:46
Or just write an emacs rule that automatically translate iff to if and only if?
hi all
@Srivatsan hey there!
@robjohn Yeah, all rooms relevant to me. :)
@TomWijsman Wow. That's a lot. I have a hard enough time keeping up with one or two.
23:50
I don't actively read them though, just want to lurk now and then / be available when necessary.
@JonasTeuwen It might be dif and only ificult to get right.
I don't really have a reason to be in Mathematics though, but it's easy to access the room when I need it though....
@TomWijsman sounds like the only way to remain sane (I know I'm making an assumption here) :-)
@HenningMakholm Sure, but with spaces in front of it and after it?
@JonasTeuwen That would work iff, and that is a big iff, the relevant instances are always followed by space.
23:53
@TomWijsman yeah, the light is always on here :-)
the lights are on, but nobody's home
(Oh, come on world-at-large, two upvotes in the next 5 minutes, how hard can it be?)
@HenningMakholm Okay, do you have an example where we would want to write "if and only if" without having it followed by a space?
@JonasTeuwen He gave you one just a few lines up. It's only a little contrived.
Oh, sorry. Sleepy.
So you can have a word <space>iffblah.
Right, then just \newcommand{\iff}{if and only if}...
23:58
Okay. A natural number $n$ is prime if and only if$n$ has exactly 2 divisors in $\mathbb N$.
@JonasTeuwen That’s a bit if and only ify.
I would want to put a space there actually. Must be sleepy and missing something 8-).

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