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9:00 PM
@BalarkaSen Most people are big fans of Gromov. :P
 
I am not going for the 'gro's. Erdos is rather my classical hero. =P
(Evidently the two most brilliant mathematical personalities from the past century are Grothendieck and Gromov, both having names starting with the same three letters)
^ apparently because both are ruski, well, grothendieck being part ruski.
 
"ruski" is not PC
 
PC?
 
politically correct
 
Grothendiecks parents may have once been Russian but he was born a German and considered himself one.
 
9:07 PM
@MikeMiller erm. well. most places tell me that he considered himself to be a rebel of no nationality. :P
 
"what nationality did he consider himself?" "he considered himself a mathematician."
 
while we're at it, i've heard that he is atm at Pyrenees and breathing his last breaths. is that right?
 
Note my sentence was past tense. He very consciously asked to be called Alexander when his colleagues called him Alexandre, iirc.
 
later he used to write alexandre. went senile. considered himself to be french again, if i am correct.
 
regardless quite not Russian
 
9:14 PM
sensible question, really odd way of presenting it
2
Q: Proving that $x\sum_{k=0}^\infty\frac{2^{-5k}(6k+1)((2k-1)!!)^3}{4(k!)^3} = 1 \implies x=\pi$

JohnWOI am trying to prove that $$(1)\qquad x\sum_{k=0}^\infty\frac{2^{-5k}(6k+1)((2k-1)!!)^3}{4(k!)^3} = 1 \implies x=\pi$$ Using W|A I got to a point where I have to prove that $$\color{red}{(2)\qquad \pi = -\frac{8 \left (\sqrt{16-3 K\left ({1\over4} (2-\sqrt{3})\right )^2\, _3 F_2\left ({3\over2},...

why not just say "show that the series sums to $1/\pi$" or "find the closed form value of the series"
 
@Semiclassical looks like one of those elliptic integral identities, twisted and differentiated a lot
 
r9m
@Chris'ssis OL rules !! :D
 
@r9m yeah, that was a nice answer ;)
 
I have a weird question, not sure if MSE worthy
 
9:16 PM
ooo, that's neat
 
very cool
 
eh, ask it here first then
 
Got a problem, but I already have a solution. What I want is other approaches. Should I post a question like that?
 
just post it
 
sure, just use the alternative-proofs tag
 
9:18 PM
It's kind of limiting the answers to not use a specific method
Well anyway, gotta LaTeX it, brb in 30 mins
 
r9m
@Chris'ssis as far as I can remeber .. OL answered a question with a very nasty looking Lagrange Interpolation in the past too :D .. He 'sees' (Neo style :P) this stuff !!
 
@Semiclassical : Regarding http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/996985/proving-that-x-sum-k-0-infty-frac2-5k6k12k-134k3-1-i
The reason for presenting it this way, is because I feel that it makes more sense with respect to lemma 2. However, I do understand that many see this as an odd way of presenting the problem. (Please note that I only do math recreationally, and my thought-process seem odd to most mathematicians.)
 
fair enough, it just was odd to me. btw, you should look at balarka's linked answer above if you haven't already
 
@r9m I think we can also use this result $$\frac{1}{a(a-b)(a-c)}+\frac{1}{b(b-a)(b-c)}+\frac{1}{c(c-a)(c-b)}=\frac{1}{a b c}$$ that we may then extend to an odd number of variables $(n\ge3)$.
 
r9m
@Chris'ssis yes !! right .. they are called Lagrange Identities (and gives birth to Lagrange Interpolation .. :-)
 
9:26 PM
@Semiclassical by neat, were you referring to my answer or the one by OL?
 
yours, yes
 
oh ok
then thanks
 
@r9m :D
 
i'm disappointed with the lack of response on my bounty here :/
4
Q: Fourier series of $\sqrt{1 - k^2 \sin^2{t}}$

AfreekaI'm struggling with a Fourier series. I need to find the Fourier series of the following function. That's the function under study: $f(t)=\left[\sqrt{1-k^2\sin^2t}\,\right]$. The function is even and $\pi$-periodic. The Fourier series should be in this form: $f(t)=\frac{a_0}2+\...

 
@Semiclassical in fact, there is a generalization but far far more efficient variant of (3) which the Chudnovsky brothers used
they're called Ramanujan-Sato series, if I am not wrong. A lot of them are related to the Moonshine directly, but never understood the connection.
 
9:32 PM
hmm, neat
 
@BalarkaSen Did you solve my problem?
 
@PedroTamaroff nopes.
 
What's keeping you?
 
i know all that elliptic integrals stuff just enough to wish i knew more :P
 
mostly studied, but got diverted towards a bit of cayley graphs and stuffs and all, @Pedro. it's high time you reminded me. i'm lazy.
 
9:33 PM
though i should probably say 'hypergeometric stuff', since that's what i've had more contact with
 
i should get back doing point-set topology.
 
r9m
@PedroTamaroff may I know the problem ? :)
 
Grading midterms is sad
 
@r9m it's topology.
 
r9m
@BalarkaSen okay ,, so might I know which problem it is ?
 
9:35 PM
@MikeMiller Why? Didn't you torture them enough?
 
@r9m I posted my idea to be there
0
A: A limit evaluating to $2 K$ (Catalan's constant)

Chris's sisThe @O.L.'s post makes me recollect the well-known identity $$\frac{1}{a(a-b)(a-c)}+\frac{1}{b(b-a)(b-c)}+\frac{1}{c(c-a)(c-b)}=\frac{1}{a b c}$$ that can be generalized for any odd number of variable, $n\ge3$, and then if we set the variables we have by $\displaystyle u_j=\cos \frac{x}{2^j}$ ...

 
r9m
O.L. explicitely stated that in his answer !! -_- .. $\begin{align}\sum_j\frac{u_j^{-1}}{\prod_{k\neq j}\left(u_j-u_k\right)}&=\frac{1}{\prod_{m}u_m}
\sum_j \prod_{k\neq j}\frac{0-u_k}{u_j-u_k}=\frac{1}{\prod_{m}u_m},
\end{align}$ that is Lagrange Identity ! :O
 
0
Q: $\frac{1}{1+2}+\frac{1}{1+2+3}+\dots+\frac{1}{1+2+3+\dots+x}=\frac{2011}{2013}$

UserXI want to see OTHER approaches than this one. Make sure they are significantly different and not a direct restatement. $$\frac{1}{1+2}+\frac{1}{1+2+3}+\dots+\frac{1}{1+2+3+\dots+x}=\frac{2011}{2013}\tag{1}$$ $$\sum_{n=1}^x n=\frac{x(x+1)}{2} \; \forall x >0\tag{2}$$ $$(1)\stackrel{(2)}{\iff} \...

 
Has anybody in here ever done the DHS HS-STEM internship?
 
@TedShifrin!
 
9:38 PM
Self-advertisement, tag request, improving LaTeX request
 
@r9m yeah, right ...
 
@Mike: I have probability test #2 to grade. I'm thinking it's a 3-martini exam, even though I wrote it to be super straight-forward. :(
hi @Balarka
 
Oy @Ted.
 
hi @Pedro ... you were mentioned earlier today.
 
Three martini sounds bad.
 
9:39 PM
@TedShifrin Really?
 
@TedShifrin I got to know about geometric group theory.
 
I cannot seem to get a hold of Pete, Ted.
@r9m Yes.
 
yeah, @Pedro, I mentioned that you wanted to go on strike because of my 17-question final. Eric (whom you met this summer) was quite amused.
 
@TedShifrin Really?
 
The good students here think my exams are actually quite fair :P
 
r9m
9:40 PM
@PedroTamaroff okay :) so what is the problem ?
 
@Pedro: Pete probably won't answer every one of your emails. He doesn't do well with spam :P
 
@r9m You're not gonna solve it.
 
@TedShifrin pouts
 
Well, pouting can be cute :D
 
@r9m by the way, do you know a nice proof for the initial identity with 3 variables?
 
9:40 PM
hi @DanielF
 
r9m
@BalarkaSen maybe so .. I'm just curious ! :)
 
@r9m Let $X$ be a metric space with the property that every infinite subset of $X$ has an accumulation point in $X$. Let $\mathcal O$ be any open cover of $X$. Prove there exists $\varepsilon >0$ with the following property: for every $x\in X$; there is $V\in\mathcal O$ such that $B(x,\varepsilon)\subseteq V$.
 
r9m
@Chris'ssis quadratic with 3 roots :P .. thats the shortest argument I know :-)
 
Ah, one of my top two or three favorite results from point-set topology, @Pedro.
 
@TedShifrin Lovely result.
 
9:41 PM
I'm going to hit the martinis when I get home, @TedShifrin
 
LOL @Mike ... Join me :)
 
@TedShifrin Now, seriously, is he around?
 
Yes, he's around and teaching.
 
@r9m I mean, it's meant as an exercise for me.
 
@TedShifrin The union is giving out free drinks tonight, which is great.
 
9:42 PM
So you're not gonna solve it. Even if you can/
 
whose union, @Mike? :)
 
The TA Union
 
@r9m What do you mean by "quadratic with 3 roots"?
 
r9m
@BalarkaSen oh ! I won't post solutions/ideas here (if that is what you ask me not to do ..) I was just curious :)
 
That is a pretty good problem, though.
 
9:44 PM
@PedroTamaroff Do you accept answers beginning with "A countably compact metric space"?
 
@Daniel Moi haven't studied compact yet.
 
@BalarkaSen I never mentioned compactness.
 
@BalarkaSen It wasn't for you.
 
@DanielFischer I'd have to see it completely.
 
Well, it seems to be a point-set topology problem, so we're already off to a bad start.
 
9:45 PM
smacks @Mike
 
@TedShifrin waves geometric group theory!!!11! waves
waves a lot to attract attention
 
i think i'd prefer geometric galois theory :P
 
@Semiclassical never studied seriously
 
The day's been bad enough and now I have to hear about epsilon-balls!
 
what is your notion of geometric group theory, @Balarka?
 
9:46 PM
by which i really mean those geometric galois actions you alluded to in the number theory chat
 
@Semiclassical that is puny stuff
 
yes, well, puny can also be exceedingly practical. :)
 
@TedShifrin only what prof told me. that groups can be made into metric spaces by looking at the word metric on the cayley graph and that a notion of hyperbolicity is defined for groups.
the rest is given to me to work out and think about.
 
sounds familiar, @Balarka, but I've never studied this.
 
r9m
@Chris'ssis I refer to expressions of the sort $\displaystyle f(x) = \sum_{cyc} \dfrac{(x-a)(x-b)}{(a-b)(a-c)}$, which is a quadratic polynomial .. and $f(x) - 1$ has 3 roots ! $a,b,c$ .. so it has to be an identity .. :)
 
9:49 PM
@Ted I found a book by Gallot and two other authors that does a Petersen-level introduction to Riemannian and so far does not make me want to shoot myself.
 
bah, i keep forgetting to write up this answer
 
@r9m Ah, OK.
 
Yeah, that was the French book whose authors I couldn't remember. It's decent, as I recall from cursory glances.
 
@MikeMiller Gallot Hulin Lafontaine?
 
@r9m btw, I hope you'll get the last bounty I offered. :-)
 
9:50 PM
That's the one
 
@DanielF is going to take over answering all the diff geo when I am gone.
 
@TedShifrin Please don't go then.
 
My depression started when I went to his class in high school arithmetic, @Ted, and only got worse when I had to grade for the three hours following.
No, @Ted, Rene is.
 
LOL, maybe so ... René is the ultimate authority. I told some of my students today about the words he said to me. They were not pleased. :P
 
r9m
@Chris'ssis no way !! that Stuff is Crazy !!! :O
 
9:51 PM
@MikeMiller If we could somehow tie up Rene and Sonnhard together, that would be cool.
 
@TedShifrin Your students should unionize and strike agains Rene.
 
LOL ... Doubt that.
Then there's the kid who's been posting my diff geo assignments. He deleted his original account, but apparently has 3 others ...
 
still don't get MSE drama, just don't
 
good for you, @Semiclassical
 
r9m
@TedShifrin I AM ALREADY LIKING THE KID !! where is he ? :D
 
9:53 PM
His first name, Unkle, is now deleted (along with the evidence that he was cheating on his homeworks)
 
i mean, i get being invested in the answers one gives. and it does get frustrating when those don't get the recognition you'd like
 
You like the kid for being a cheater?
 
but the community doesn't owe you that
 
@Ted If you can find the questions the evidence is still there for 10k users
 
@Semiclassical, I'm only upset when people upvote/downvote out of a vendetta ... for no good academic reason.
no, @Mike, he deleted that account.
 
9:54 PM
@TedShifrin Take a group $G$ and a finite generating set $S$. The cayley graph pf the pair can be made into a metric by defining the word metric $d$ on the nodes of the graph. in fact, that gives out a geodesic metric space structure over $G$. now to identify $\Gamma(G, S_1)$ and $\Gamma(G, S_2)$ for distinct generating sets S1 and S2 he defined quasi isometry to construct a whole category of geodesic metric spaces in which cayley graph of groups are unique.
 
Oh, your point being that one cant trace it to him.
 
I thought I had a point, but maybe I didn't.
 
nod. drive-by downvotes are annoying. though usually there it's because you put enough effort into your answers that a downvote would require some explanation
i'm fine with drive-by downvotes on answers people obviously put no effort into :P
 
r9m
@MikeMiller oh sorry !! I meant to say I'm not liking the kid already ... (because he got caught cheating) :P
 
No, @semiclassical, in my case I think there's a personal vendetta which will escalate. :)
 
9:56 PM
ughhh
 
@r9m: You'd better not get on my bad side.
 
here's hoping i don't have a nemesis :/
 
Two questions, maybe trivial
How is continuity by $\varepsilon - \delta$ using the axiom of choice, and do we use the axiom of choice each time we define an injective function for range and domains of infinite cardinals?
 
r9m
@TedShifrin I can't say I don't cheat :P .. but its kept as a last resort .. I make sure I've skinned myself trying it first :P ..
 
that's not acceptable, either, @r9m
 
10:05 PM
@UserX What?
What makes you think the epsilon-delta defn uses the axiom of choice?
 
'ello people
 
If I understand your question properly @UserX none of those use choice
 
@PedroTamaroff @MikeMiller The first one is from a comment from Asaf Karagila, maybe miscopied something crucial, the second is my intuition.
 
@UserX That (for metric spaces [first countable, actually]) sequential continuity is equivalent to continuity uses AC.
 
r9m
@Chris'ssis I was referring to this Crazy awesome stuff !! :D (when I said he sees stuff like Neo in The Matrix)
 
10:13 PM
hehe. I see.:-)
 
Direct quote;
Also, if you give important consequences I would add the fact that continuity by $\epsilon-\delta$ is equivalent to continuity by limits. Most people are not aware that this is a consequence of the axiom of choice.
 
r9m
ah ! Julien has left the site/deleted the account ! I hadn't bookmarked one answer I particularly liked ! :(
 
@UserX "the fact that continuity by $\epsilon-\delta$ is equivalent to continuity by limits." <- "this is a consequence of the axiom of choice."
Where by "by limits" he meant "by limits of sequences".
 
@DanielFischer I knew I shouldn't read these as I could misinterpret them by my low-knowledge on the field.
What does $\stackrel{\triangle}{=}$ mean?
 
never sen it
context?
 
10:29 PM
$$0.333\dots\stackrel{\triangle}{=}\lim_{n \to \infty}\sum_{i=1}^{n} \frac{3}{10^i}$$
 
r9m
@UserX context ? I think I have seen that in my school Chemistry class :P (possibly thermodynamics) :P LOL
 
no idea what that means there
 
Could be "is defined as".
 
r9m
but := is defined as
 
I've seen := being is defined as
 
10:32 PM
that was my guess, @DanielF
 
10:44 PM
@Chris'ssis I see that OL used Lagrange's formula. I was thinking about that while I was away, but I was too late to check it out.
 
10:59 PM
@DanielFischer Are you there?
 
@MattN. For a short while. I'm planning to go to bed soon.
 
@DanielFischer Ok, I understand. So, about this continuity question with the sup function. I am was just rewriting my answer into one that maps open sets to open sets.
Like this:
Let $O \subseteq \mathbb R$ be open and $x_0 \in f^{-1}O$. Since $O$ is open there exists $\varepsilon > 0$ such that $(f(x_0)-\varepsilon, f(x_0)+\varepsilon)\subseteq O$. Now let $\delta = {\varepsilon \over 2}$. Then (same argument as in the $\varepsilon$-$\delta$-definition-argument) for $x$ such that $d(x,x_0) < \delta$ and for all $a \in A$:
$$ d(x_0, a) \le d(x_0,x) + d(x,a)$$


hence

$$d(x_0, a)- d(x,a) \le d(x_0,x) < \delta$$

Then take the supremum on the left hand side twice to get $\displaystyle d(x_0, a)- \sup_{a \in A} d(x,a) \le \delta$ and also $\displaystyle \sup_{a \in A}d(x_0, a)- \sup_{a \in A} d(x,a) \le \delta$.
Hence $f(x_0) - f(x) \le \delta < \varepsilon$. Now repeat the same argument with $x$ and $x_0$ swapped so as to get $f(x) - f(x_0) < \varepsilon$. Putting both together yields $|f(x) - f(x_0)|<\varepsilon$.
But why should $B(x_0, \delta)$ be contained in $f^{-1}O$?
 
@robjohn OK
 
@MattN. You've just shown that $x\in B_\delta(x_0) \implies f(x) \in (f(x_0)-\varepsilon, f(x_0)+\varepsilon) \subset O$.
 
@DanielFischer I have. Thank you! I had the domain and the codomain muddled in my head.
 
11:07 PM
Use paper. Things are usually much clearer when written on paper.
 
@DanielFischer I should share the upvote with you.
 
I already had some today ;)
 
@DanielFischer Good point. I'll let you in on a secret: I am so lazy that I hardly ever use paper. But it's good to be reminded that paper is a good idea. I should have it handy at all times.
 
But writing on paper is much faster than typing $\LaTeX$. How can you not use paper when doing maths?
 
@DanielFischer If I'm too lazy to go find a pad of paper, I frequently open notepad and write down my trains of thought (without texing anything).
 
11:10 PM
@DanielFischer No, I do most things in my head. Once I have a solution I either type it up in latex if I have to, or content myself with a solution in my head.
Except new stuff.
When I do stuff that I'm not so familiar with (so that it cannot comfortably fit into my working memory) then I always use paper.
@DanielFischer The odd thing is that in this case paper might not have helped: I already had it all in front of me in latex and was still confused.
Sometimes coffee helps. I'm never too lazy to make coffee : D
 
That's one thing, one can read stuff on paper orders of magnitude better than on a computer screen.
 
Evidence suggests that you are right.
@DanielFischer Ok, I'm sorry that I didn't use paper and had to bother you because of it. Better? : )
 
@MattN. Don't apologise. Buy a notepad made of paper ;)
 
But I already have one!
Several, in fact.
 
Then use them.
 
11:23 PM
Yes.
 
i usually have paper, i just lose my pencils
a lot
 
: )
@DanielFischer Anyway, sleep well! When you come back I will try to bother you some more with something else : )
 
I do this no-paper thing too. If I answer something that's pretty simple, I'll solve and $\LaTeX$ at the same time. But if it's more than 3 lines or so and it requires algebra/calc I'll have to write a briefing in about 30 seconds or so on paper.
 
i like using stack edit for scratchpad purposes
 
@TedShifrin Oh hello Ted. Just the person I wanted to see!
I almost understand that directional derivative thread.
 
11:30 PM
Ha ha ...
 
I just have one missing piece. Will you help me?
 
One?
 
Yes, I think I get everything else.
 
So?
 
When does the day rep cap reset?
 
11:34 PM
So what I gather: If we use $d_h(f)$ to denote the directional derivative of $f$ in direction $h$ then the guy is asking how to show $d_{h + k}(f) = d_h(f) + d_k (f)$. So far so good. He wants to use the limit definition of the directional derivative to do so. You answer: This is not possible. The directional derivative is only linear if the Fréchet derivative of the function exists at the point where you want to take the directional derivative.
@TedShifrin So far correct?
 
Not quite, but most of the time. For example, there are non-diff fns with all directional derivatives $0$.
 
Ah ok. Thank you for pointing this out.
But close enough.
@TedShifrin Now the missing piece in my understanding is: I understand the first sentence in the question to mean that he assumes that the Fréchet derivative exists.
 
@Semiclassical Noone cares about bounties :(
 
My question to you now is: what does his first sentence actually mean?
 
I thought he assumed only existence of directional derivatives.
Give me the link again.
 
11:38 PM
Hi, I'd like to check some easy exercise, show that the arithmetic sum in $\mathbb{R}$ is continuous in the topological sense. In what follows I assume that $\mathbb{R}^2$ has the taxicab metric to simplify the calculation. Let $c\in\mathbb{R}$, and $\epsilon>0$. Let $P=\langle p_1,p_2\rangle \in (+)^{-1}\big (B_{\mathbb{R}}(c,\epsilon)\big)$ , i.e., $|c-(p_1+p_2)|<\epsilon$, let $\delta =\epsilon-|c-(p_1+p_2)|$
we shall show that

$$ B_{(\mathbb{R^2}d_l^1)}(P,\delta/2)\subset(+)^{-1}\big (B_{\mathbb{R}}(a+b,\epsilon)\big)$$

Let $Q=\langle q_1,q_2\rangle\in B_\mathbb{R^2}(P,\epsilon/2)$, so

$$|c-(q_1+q_2)|\le|c-(p_1+p_2)|+|p_1-q_1|+|p_2-q_2|<\epsilon$$
 
@TedShifrin Here
 
@MattN. He was misunderstanding the definition of "differentiable" to mean "Has all directional derivatives". He then wanted to use this latter definition to prove that $v \mapsto D_vf$ is linear.
 
First sentence is: "If $f$ is differentiable at $x$, the map $h\mapsto f(x+h)-f(x)$ should be approximately linear."
@MikeMiller Hm... I'm not sure this explains the first sentence. ^
 
It's the sensible interpretation from the context of the rest of the question.
 
You're right. He assumed diff, but he was not using it to do his proof. That's what I explained.
 
11:42 PM
@MikeMiller I don't disagree with that. But what is your interpretation of the first sentence? I read it as "the Fréchet derivative exists".
@TedShifrin Ok, thank you! Now I am less confused.
 
But he didn't use that hypothesis. Read my answer to him.
 
I should have said 'a' sensible interpretation. I read the first sentence as shorthand for $f(x+tv)-f(x)$ as a function of $v$. But Ted's interpretation seems more likely.
"Charitable" is not a word I want to use to refer to a colleague...
 
I like Eric, so be nice. Multivariable analysis is very subtle.
 
@TedShifrin The way I originally wrote the sentence was not what I meant. This is why I rephrased.
 
@TedShifrin I have read it many times but I am rereading it once more now. I think I understand it.
 
11:44 PM
Ok.
 
@TedShifrin "So you must use linearity as part of the definition;" this means "use the linearity of the Fréchet derivative to show the linearity of the directional derivative", right?
 
Even when I jump up and down and tell my students what question on this will be on the test, half still miss it. :(
Yes @Matt
 
Ok, I really think I understand your answer. Including the assumption that he assumes the existence of all directional derivatives.
 
@TedShifrin The two problems I graded were "integrate $\sin^2 \cos^3$" and "integrate $\cos^2$ using integration by parts"
These alone were enough to cause severe depression
I feel sorry for the guy who had to do the "Why is $\log(ab) = \log(a)+\log(b)$?" question.
 
@TedShifrin How do you prove linearity of directional derivatives given existence of the Fréchet derivative?
@MikeMiller Depression because they are so boring to solve?
I hate integrating stuff.
 
11:48 PM
No, @MattN.... Because of the answers I got.
 
I was being obtuse.
 
That's good to hear.
 
@MikeMiller why not use trig identities?
 
because knowledge of trig identities wasn't what was being tested, presumably
 
But these are not so bad. It tells you which method to use. So nothing can go wrong.
 
11:52 PM
My professor said "don't worry about induction on the exam" so everyone assumed he wasn't going to put induction on the exam, but I guess he meant "induction is on the exam, but it's easy so don't worry about it" LOL
 
I can't do integration of stuff where it does not tell you the method. I always pick the wrong one and then end up writing a long dull computation just to end up with the integral I started with.
 
Good job @MikeMiller though. That's one step closer to a professor.
 
@MattN. For the first one, you have to be a teeny bit clever. But this exact problem was a previous homework problem, and the particular cleverness was mentioned repeatedly in class.
 
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Ah, so that should be feasible.
 
11:53 PM
huh?
 
Thanks @wordsthatendinGRY
 
Poor me. @Ted disappeared after I asked him another question.
 
We also covered the exact problem the night before in the review session, @MattN....
 
@user130018 Why are you thanking me?
 
@MikeMiller isn't the first trivial by using sin^2+cos^2=1
 
11:54 PM
@wordsthatendinGRY Because now I'm thinking of words that end in "gry"
 
@user130018 There are three in English
 
@MikeMiller Ok, I understand.
 
@wordsthatendinGRY No spoilers please
 
Every integral on a calculus test is trivial, @UserX. And yes. This is why it's frustrating to see very wrong answers.
 
@user130018 Two are easy, the third sounds unlike the other two
 
11:54 PM
one of them is 'orange'
 
I got the 2 easy ones
 
@MikeMiller ...
 
Oh, that's right
"orange"
Then we're done
 
No it is GRY not NGE
 
Angry, hungry, and orange
 
11:55 PM
No that ends in NGE
 
Now I can sleep well knowing I've found all 3 words in English that end in "gry"
 
NO
NO YOU CAN"T
 
hunGRY!
 
But @wordsthatendinGRY We're done, I've found all 3
 
I guess whoever made the question didn't know about orange
 
11:56 PM
Why orange, what is going on?????
 
the expected answer was probably 'angry', 'hungry', and 'ANGRY', where the last one is the first one but spoken really angrily
 
Hi @datalava How are you today?
 
enerGRY
 
lol
 
11:56 PM
@MikeMiller I wonder if profs find all problems in tests they hand trivial
 
Hi, I'd appreciate if someone could say me if the following is correct: Show that $(+): \mathbb{R}^2\to \mathbb{R}$ is continuous in the topological sense. We may assume that $\mathbb{R}^2$ has the taxicab metric to simplify the calculation.
 
@wordsthatendinGRY So you were wrong; there are FOUR words ending in "gry" in English
 
Let $c\in\mathbb{R}$, and $\epsilon>0$. Let $P=\langle p_1,p_2\rangle \in (+)^{-1}\big (B_{\mathbb{R}}(c,\epsilon)\big)$, i.e., $|c-(p_1+p_2)|<\epsilon$, let $\delta =\epsilon-|c-(p_1+p_2)|$ we shall show that

$$ B_{(\mathbb{R^2}d_l^1)}(P,\delta/2)\subset(+)^{-1}\big (B_{\mathbb{R}}(a+b,\epsilon)\big)$$

Let $Q=\langle q_1,q_2\rangle\in B_\mathbb{R^2}(P,\delta/2)$, so

$$|c-(q_1+q_2)|\le|c-(p_1+p_2)|+|p_1-q_1|+|p_2-q_2|<\epsilon$$
 
I should go. I'll see you later.
 
@Matt: When $f$ is differentiable, $D_v f(a) = Df(a)(v)$.
 
11:58 PM
@user130018 Tell me immediately, how does one complete time optimal control?
 
@wordsthatendinGRY Give it a supremum?
 
@user130018 ._.
 
@Jose: Looks fine.
 
@TedShifrin do you find all problems that are on your tests trivial (in the sense that I would find "solve $x+2=5$?)
 
No.
But
 
11:59 PM
Thanks @Ted :)
 
@TedShifrin Do you ever put problems on your exam that you have difficulty solving within a reasonable time period
 

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