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13:52
@JoonasIlmavirta Hi Joonas, earlier you defended my downvoters as "reasonable" people in a private message, but my answer to the question "What translation of the Bible to read?" is an example of what I consider really unfair treatment by other users.
First Roger Vadim criticizes my answer over a totally tangential part of it and his criticism is simply wrong and shows a naive understanding of biblical hermaneutics. The Hebrew text of the bible is written in rabbinical hebrew which as a language did not even exist until the 2nd century AD.
So, even though Vadim's comment was wrong, two other users upvoted his comment and one of them downvoted my whole answer because of this trivial side remark in the answer, ignoring the quality of the rest of it. That's not reasonable or equitable treatment of answers on any level.
14:51
@TylerDurden If a side remark is seriously flawed, it is not unusual grounds for voting down. It's also normal across the whole network that people vote posts up and down after reading only a part of it. I find it normal upon seeing a major issue in the first paragraph to vote down and stop reading. A fuller evaluation of the answer would be nice but SE is not special in showing that human behaviour.
I'm curious: If you feel that you are consistently mistreated here, why do you keep coming back? Most of your answers are not taken very seriously by the community as the votes and comments indicate.
 
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19:19
@TylerDurden The downvote seems to have been removed after your edit.
20:04
@Adam My comment to your reincarnation question was too short. I thought that you might be able to derive something from that verb (or a similar one), by analogy to what is attestedly done with nasci.
The thing that first came to mind is the participle renatus, which appears in Romance languages as a name (René, Renato).
The word "renaissance" might be worth a look, with variants like the Italian "rinascimento".
Also, carnis resurrectio ;-)
But it definitely does not mean reincarnation. On the contrary: « Reincarnatio » post mortem non habetur.
@SebastianKoppehel I first read that as canis resurrectio and was confused. Perhaps the concept is more familiar to @Cerberus?
I'm not sure if Hades does return tickets. The concept of reincarnation might not be popular down there.
20:22
By the way, ever since I've been frequenting this website, the virtual keyboard on my smartphone has begun suggesting Latin words. I really have to pay attention so I don't pepper my WhatsApp messages with random vero or quibus.
@SebastianKoppehel Do you use the same keyboard for all languages? I switch mine to a different language setting when I switch languages, largely to avoid those suggestions.
@JoonasIlmavirta I switch between English and German, but both are already contaminated. I have no separate keyboard for Latin ...
@JoonasIlmavirta oh!
@JoonasIlmavirta Seldom.
@SebastianKoppehel I do not switch: my keyboard allows Dutch and English at the same time.
But it also has a list from which I can remove words; does not yours?
So what do you do when you need to email Hades? English, Dutch? Just bark?
20:33
Oh, he is not good with computers.
@Cerberus My keyboards are also multilingual, so I don't have to switch, but the gesture recognition works better in the keyboard's "primary" language.
Bad experiences.
They are dead to him, says he.
@Cerberus Strange, my computer dies all the time.
Don't they need to have been alive in order to be dead?
@SebastianKoppehel Hmm my keyboard, after the first two or three words, decides by itself which language I am typing in at that moment. Then it works well and will seldom suggest words from the other language.
@SebastianKoppehel He is squeamish about seeing people die.
@Adam Ah, we have a philosopher in the room!
20:35
@TylerDurden I think at this point your answers are viewed more critically by many people than they would be if someone else had written them. I also thought this about your answer to the recent Euler question, which may be flawed but I think would not usually have been downvoted much.
And when I say "many people," note that even popular answers on this site get around 8 or 9 upvotes if they don't make the "Hot Network Questions" list. So we are not talking about a huge audience.
@Cerberus Does a room need to be physically real to have a philosopher in it?
I suppose not?
@Cerberus "Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren, bei dieser Bestellung …" ← Samsung decides "bei" should be "vero" :D
Haha nice.
But yes, there is a list I can clean up. Maybe I should get to it.
20:40
Maybe go through your dictionary and delete some stuff.
Yeah, I do that once a year maybe.
I also have the option to only have new words added to it, when I explicitly tell it to do so.
@SebastianKoppehel I have just deleted 44 words.
Apparently with this version of the Samsung keyboard, this works only by long-tapping individual words when they are suggested, or resetting the whole keyboartd app to factory settings.
Annoying.
I use Swype.
Have been using it for twelve years or so.
20:57
I use Google's Gboard.
I like it better than the built-in keyboards that came with my devices.
@Adam I'm not at my SEing computer, so it's a bit hard to elaborate, but was hoping those pointers could lead to something. Looking up Latin translations of "renaissance" would make a reasonable answer, given what that word means.
@JoonasIlmavirta Ironically, the word reincarnate itself has Latin origins. en.wiktionary.org/wiki/incarnate#English
@Adam It does, but that doesn't automatically mean that the apparent Latin word is a good translation. Depends on context and details, I suppose.
@SebastianKoppehel Well, that is exactly to the point. The number of users is so tiny on the site that there is a problem of it becoming an echo chamber where the opinions of a small clique get magnified out of proportion. If people are making only constructive posts, then it is less of a problem. But if a small clique starts deleting answers then it becomes unhealthy.
21:22
@JoonasIlmavirta Yea, tracing the word back shows the originating words aren't good candidates. It could potentially inform a new construction, maybe.
21:38
@Adam And the obvious candidate is good to discuss, even when it's wrong. A good answer warns its readers of traps.
@TylerDurden It's true that small communities can develop in such a direction, but I don't see that having happened here. The opinions expressed by the users are generally well in line with what is found in academic sources.
If we delete answers manually, we do so following the guidelines described at meta and the poster is notified in advance. If the user edits to address the issues raised or otherwise makes a good case, we'll probably leave it undeleted.
@TylerDurden Ave!
What do you think should change, and how can it be achieved?
I try to look at downvotes as a sign that there's a way to improve an answer or question.
I don't personally do a lot of downvoting and would only do it with obviously bad or incorrect answers (being a novice prevents me from identifying the latter)

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