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1:31 AM
Growing up is going back through your old LaTeX files and replacing dollar signs with \( and \[
 
 
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2:49 AM
@Fargle: I would never bother.
 
I just get annoyed by it, especially if I add more to the document
The latter style is in my muscle memory---still, I've at least made it as easy as possible by hotkeying find-and-replace functionality
 
@Fargle how do you find and replace efficiently when its opened and closed by the same symbol ($...$ or $$...$$?)
 
Alternate between "find next" and "replace" to make left-parens, and then replace all to make right-parens
 
3:17 AM
ahh ok thats reasonably quick, could even write a small script to do it
 
3:53 AM
Might be of interest:
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Q: Supercomputers around the world!

ThomasFor a matter modelling person, the most valuable resource is computing power. For many of us, computing power at hand limits the scale of problems we can solve. There are many national supercomputing facilities for academics. What are the resources available in each country?

 
 
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6:17 AM
Is there any "sandwich" theorem for cardinalities? Say, $A \subset B \subset C$, $|A| = \mathfrak c$ and $|C| = \mathfrak{c}$. Can we say $|B| = \mathfrak c$? I suppose we can, but I'm looking for a proof.
 
6:43 AM
I came up with a cool formula!!
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Q: Prove this formula relating number of primes and semi-primes?

More AnonymousI think I have a messy proof which enables me to state for all $m > 2$ being a prime number: $$ \sum_{k=2}^{m-1} \pi(2m) - m+2 = \pi(m)+2S(m^2) $$ Where $\pi(x)$ is a function which counts the number of primes $\leq x$ and $S(x)$ is the number of odd square free semi primes less $\leq x$. Can y...

 
 
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9:06 AM
@S.D. A injects in B, so $|B|\geq |A|$. B injects in C, so $|B|\leq |C|$
 
9:30 AM
the sentence "Finally, use row operation R1 to make all the entries in the same columns as any pivot 0"
does it means that except pivot make all 0?
 
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9:40 AM
@AlessandroCodenotti Oh, got it, thanks
 
@Balarka youtube.com/watch?v=beXW5s3ZCB4 pretty much the best song on this earth
 
10:14 AM
oh I know FAUN
 
I had never heard of them, reminds me of Schandmaul
 
@NoseBleed can you give a little context for that sentence, the grammar seems to be a little off
 
@Alessandro @Balarka the video is fairly embarrassing but that song is a guilty pleasure
 
I haven't actually watched the video so it's fine :P
 
@EdwardEvans yeah hahaha i was gonna say FAUN music videos are viking cringe folk
Alessandro listens to JINJER so it's ok though
 
10:28 AM
they're not even viking, they're like.. medieval germany, which is even more embarrassing
rofl
 
I don't listen to them, they made one song which sounds cool until you look at lyrics and that's about it
 
lmfao
 
Alessandro plays bass though so...
 
I used to, I haven't touched it in years... Maybe I'll bring my bass to Muenster, we'll see
 
ergh I think I finally solved a problem that's had me stumped since yesterday
@Alessandro fair, I think bass is cool af tbf, I'm just jumping on the bass hate bandwagon
 
10:31 AM
doom metal man
dont hate on bass
 
not to show off, but I can play every animals as leaders song on bass
 
doubling the lead?
or is the joke that theres no bass lol
 
It's a group with two 8-string guitars and a drum
 
rofl
I think they actually had bass on the first album
 
just filter a bass through a wrecked amp and strum it one random intervals and youve become Sunn O)))
 
10:33 AM
(they do have a bassist in studio and some lives occasionally)
 
i love the songs but never checked who plays what, assumed it had a bass
 
When I went to the AAL concert they had Plini and The Contortionist opening, and the same bassist played with all three of them (I think he was the bassist from the Contortionist but I don't remember exactly)
@BalarkaSen lol that's an accurate description tho
 
It's the bassist from Plini
Simon Grove
 
sick
 
10:37 AM
@EdwardEvans Yes, that's him
 
@Balarka every Sunn O))) song is actually just the same recording of a building site through various shitty microphones
 
LMAO
 
@Alessandro he seems to be the basic for every modern progressive metal band
bassist*
well bassist = basic
weeeey
nah but it was actually a typo sorry
 
Well Plini is Australian so there's probably a single bassist in the whole country
 
King Gizzard man
microtonal bass
iirc they also have two drummers
 
10:41 AM
Simon Grove is an aboriginal bass shaman and the bands each invoke him to play their music at concerts
 
@BalarkaSen Oh right, they are good
There are a bunch of good Australian bands. Tame Impala is also cool
 
tame impala is GREAT
 
Noooo
How man how
 
by way of being good
 
i hate tame impala
i prefer wild ones
 
10:43 AM
impalas whose ramification index doesn't divide the characteristic of their residue field
 
lol
 
oh man
I forgot how I solved that problem within like 5 mins of writing down what I thought was correct
 
speaking of good australian bands
tropical fuck storm is great
 
and Ne Obliviscaris of course
 
10:45 AM
ah yeah
 
and Striborg lool
 
i forgot they were aussies
 
Have you seen the One Man Metal documentary?
 
nope
 
It's well cool, it's just interviews with Xasthur, Leviathan and Striborg
and they're all just cringe neckbeards
 
10:47 AM
lmao
 
So it's actually country music?
 
@Alessandro lel
idk, Xasthur seems somewhat genuine, Leviathan seems like an edgelord and Striborg is just some cringe 40 year old
 
Enough Australian nonsense, let's talk about tvue Norwegian metla
 
trvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
australia is too hot for black metal
 
Yeah you can't dress in black and the face paint melts
 
10:50 AM
have you seen that weird Shining interview
 
ergh he's such a douchebag
 
yeah
 
hi! anyone comfortable with linear algebra here?
 
 
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2:05 PM
@Leaky wanna try and answer a silly question about local fields?
 
I always hated that name. Surely all fields are trivially local :)
 
I've got an element $\sigma \in W(K^{\text{ab}}/K)$ and $E_\sigma$ its fixed field. Now $\sigma|_{K^{\text{ur}}}$ acts as $\operatorname{Frob}_K^n$ so $E_\sigma \cap K^{\text{ur}} = K(\mu_{q^n - 1})$. The question is now why $E_\sigma/K(\mu_{q^n - 1})$ is totally ramified. Obviously $[E_\sigma : K] = [E_\sigma : K(\mu_{q^n - 1})][K(\mu_{q^n - 1}) : K]$ and the latter factor is $[k_{K(\mu_{q^n - 1})}:k]$ (because $K(\mu_{q^n - 1})/K$ is unramified).
So why is $[k_{E_\sigma}:k_{K(\mu_{q^n - 1})}] = 1$
halp
maybe there's an obvious reason but I'm not seeing it haha
rip
these little $k$s are residue fields
 
2:22 PM
Sanity check: products and compositions of immersions are obviously immersions, right? There's no subtleties here that I'm missing?
 
composition of immersion is immersion by chain rule and the fact that product of no nulltity matrices is no nullity yeah, what is a product of immersions
 
i.e. $f : X \to Y$, $g : Z \to W$ immersions implies $f \times g : X \times Z \to Y \times W$ an immersion
 
I guess you have immersions $A\to M$, $B\to N$ and looks at $A\times B\to M\times N$?
 
That should just be elementary, right?
 
yeah
then its true
 
2:27 PM
Alright good
I just woke up so I'm just trying to hedge my bets against sleepy stupidity
 
$d(f\times g)=df\times dg$
 
Indeed, and product of injectives is injective too
I just have The Dumb Brain this morning
 
how does saying true things make you dumb
 
Brain's working slow so I have no confidence in even obviously true things
 
that is me always
 
2:31 PM
Your "obviously true" is my "I can't read that"
we are not the same
:^)
 
usually when i say obviously true its false
 
"Images of immersions are obviously submanifolds"
 
thats a trippy one yeah
 
images of maps are obviously sets
 
What is cone of CP^1 and is it an orbifold? I would thicken S^2, and collapse the inner S^2 to a point. So basically, this is a 3-ball with its core crushed. Is this picture correct? Also, if this is an orbifold, what is the local group at the point where the inner S^2 was collapsed (aka. the cone vertex).
 
2:35 PM
cone on S^2 is just a 3-ball
 
topologically yes.
I am talking about the orbifold structure.
(if there is one)
 
any manifold has a trivial orbifold structure...?
just take the group to be the trivial group
i dont understand
 
Bro. no. Like teardrop is also S^2 (topologically), but you have a singular point.
Am I making sense?
 
No I dont understand the question at all. C(S^2) is topologically B^3 so you're asking for orbifold structures on B^3, which has many -- you can forget how you got the B^3 by coning a sphere because it has no relevance to the question.
@feynhat yes thats one of many orbifold structures on S^2
what am i missing
 
Okay. When I write R^2/Z_n, would you say its a disk (with trivial orbifold structure), or would you say its a cone with a singular point? I mean R^2/Z_n has an obvious non-trivial orbifold structure.
 
2:42 PM
It's important to think of it as a cone with cone angle 2pi/n
but thats just a way of thinking about it
the cone point of C(S^2) is not R^3/Z_n in any canonical way, right?
also R^3/Z_n is more complicated than a cone on S^2
 
Why must it be Z_n?
 
yeah it need not be, i was just giving an example
C(S^2) does not carry any canonical orbifold structure. you can give it one
R^2/Z_n in accordance with notation carries one
 
MiMi was telling me the other day that CCP^n are not orbifolds for n>1. I was wonder why he excluded n=1.
 
because CCP^1 is an orbifold, R^3/{1}
so...
 
CCCP^1
 
2:48 PM
Jul 11 at 19:19, by Mike Miller
@feynhat I just mean that the cone on CP^n is not of the form R^n/G for any finite group of isometries.
I come here to do math, but instead get brainwashed by commie propaganda. smh.
 
Pontryagin would be proud
 
i still dont understand the question
the point is CP^n is (homotopy equivalent to) quotient of a sphere by a finite group only if n = 1, because then it's literally a sphere
this needs to be proved of course
 
I'm MiMi?
I like it.
 
that sounds like you're from some kawaii anime
im gonna go barf real quick
 
I am confused. What is CCP^2?
 
2:55 PM
Cone on
 
it is not a familiar space if that is your question
 
CCP^2 is the worker's party of korea
 
Isn't it going to be some ball?
 
how?
its not even a manifold i mean
again that requires work but you can try to see that
determine when cone on anything is a manifold
 
@EdwardEvans the Juche cone
 
2:57 PM
wtf. I was doing the same thing that I did for CCP^1. Like thickening the sphere and the collapsing.
ugh.
 
@feynhat the sphere is special man
 
isn't the cone a stratifold or sth
 
sure thorgott
 
Sure but everything is
 
2:58 PM
cones are basic examples of stratified spaces (stratifolds are only a little more restrictive)
 
"It's got a fundamental class" bro yeah I noticed, the suspension of a thing with fundamental class has one
 
what is the analogue of noncompact manifolds for stratified spaces
strata are always noncompact so thats a garbage notion
i want it to have a core like a manifold does
there are lots of examples (tangent bundle of a stratified space, normal thickenings, ...) but what is the right thing
surely not "a stratified space which is noncompact"
oh and affine varieties
 
@BalarkaSen Sure why not
 
dunno does that work
maybe it does
you want the strata to have ends which are not occupied by lower strata
 
Proper maps from stratifolds
 
3:10 PM
yeah its probably a fine definition
what are some obstructions for a noncompact stratified space to be an affine variety
complex manifold strata, Lefschetz hyperplane theorem, ...
i feel like there are good questions here that i dont know answers to
the core being half dimensional is definitely a good restriction i think
 
what's an example of an infinite rank borel subset of $\mathbb{R}$?
 
it should be true that the lower strata are cut out of higher strata by some pseudoconvex tube functions
although I think dist^2(-, L) : C^n -> R is pseudoconvex only if L $\subset$ C^n is a totally real submanifold
 
So, CM is a manifold only when M=S^n, right?
'=' meaning homeo.
 
because?
 
I looked up on MO. They show that such an M must be a homology sphere.
something something Ponicare conjecture.
 
3:15 PM
delete the cone point
if CM is a manifold the cone point has an nbhd homeo to R^n
but the nbhd is also CM (open cone). baleet the cone point
M x I is homeo to R^n - pt = S^(n-1) x I
M is homotopy eq to S^(n-1)
a homotopy sphere is a sphere by Poincare conjecture
the argument isnt 100% precise but you can do a local homology argument to make it precise
like you say M will be a simply connected homology sphere
 
Okay. I am going ask something stupid, isn't CP^n a sphere? I mean its one-point compactification of R^{2n} no?
 
It's not a one point compactification of R^(2n), why do you think it is
 
Only CP^1 is a sphere
 
hey @Alessandro, do you happen to know an infinite rank borel subset of R?
 
brb. gotta kill myself real quick.
 
3:26 PM
@Thorgott Like an explicit description you mean?
 
no but tell me what kind of compactification CP^n is of R^(2n)
i feel like you havent seen a picture
 
yeah
 
Instead of feeling bad say what you know about CP^n
And maybe get a better understanding of what it is
 
yeah ^
 
Hmm let's see, I don't know one off the top of my head
 
3:27 PM
CP^n has different cohomology from a sphere for n>1
 
@Thorgott Shut up
that doesn't tell you anything
 
it tells me that it's not a sphere
 
Nah
 
Well so it's not very explicit, but if you build in $(n,n+1)$ a set which is $\mathbf{\Sigma}^0_n\setminus\mathbf{\Sigma}^0_{n-1}$ and take the union you get a $\mathbf{\Sigma}^0_\omega$ set
that's the standard way of showing $\bigcup_{\alpha<\lambda}\mathbf{\Sigma}^0_\alpha\subsetneq\mathbf{\Sigma}^0_\lambda$ at limit $\lambda$
 
ah yeah, that makes sense
making that completely explicit sounds ugly, but that's ok
was mostly just curious whether there's a surprisingly nice example
 
3:33 PM
I'm pretty sure computability people will be able to give you an explicit example in the form "the set of reals which codes some computability related stuff", but I know nothing about this side of descriptive set theory
 
I wouldn't be able to understand that either, but this is ok
thanks
@Balarka it tells me that no CP^n for n>1 even has the homotopy type of a sphere, what more do you want
 
nobody cares about that
its self evident if you know the picture that it is not a sphere
 
In $\Bbb R^2$ you can, for every $\xi<\omega_1$, build sets $U$ which are $\Bbb R$-universal for $\mathbf{\Sigma}^0_\xi(\Bbb R)$, meaning that $U\in\mathbf{\Sigma}^0_\xi(\Bbb R^2)$ and that every set in $\mathbf{\Sigma}^0_\xi(\Bbb R)$ can be realized as a slice of $U$. The construction is done recursively so it's somewhat more explicit I guess
 
@BalarkaSen well the cohomology encodes the picture
 
yeah but thor is going backwards
the cohomology is clear from the picture
 
3:38 PM
He's a backwards person
 
interesting, I should learn this hierarchy stuff some day
I'm not backwards, I'm just allergic to pictures
 
a space is a picture not a cohomology ring
 
Hi, guys, are there are easy ways to check for continuous differentiability at a point
Or in fact, even just differentiability, since I think continuous partial derivatives gives us the rest?
 
@Thorgott It's very interesting if you ask me, but I'm biased :P
 
I'm glad that you understand pictures in dimensions >3, but I don't
 
3:40 PM
And I guess as a third part, can we go further into C^2 and beyond
 
I don't even understand pictures in dimension $\leq 3$...
 
Even dimension 2 is complicated
$z^n$ unfolds to a cusp-and-folds singularity
 
continuous partials => continuous differentiability is a local statement, not a pointwise statement
 
how sick is that
 
either way, that's a very broad question
usually, your function is either obviously differentiable since built out smooth functions with sum/product/composition or you'll have to go and check by definition
rare cases you can be sneaky and use the IFT to prove something is differentiable
 
3:44 PM
@Leaky or equivalently $I(E_\sigma/K) \cong \operatorname{Gal}(E_\sigma/E_\sigma \cap K^{\text{ur}})$ with $I(E_\sigma/K) := \operatorname{ker}\lbrace \operatorname{Gal}(E_\sigma/K) \to \operatorname{Gal}(k_{E_\sigma}/k),\ \tau \mapsto \bar{\tau}\rbrace$
spammin' u
 
feynhat decided he'd erather feel shame than better understand something
for shame!
 
I see. I'm expecting to end up with some stuff like maybe $f(x,y) = (x+y,(x-y)/sin(1/x))$ for example.
So I guess it's trivial to note that $f_1$ is differentiable
 
obviously smooth wherever it's defined except for x=0, where it's not obvious what happens
 
My aim here is to say that $f$ is continuously differentiable almost everywhere sorry
 
outside of the zeroes of your denominator (which only constitute a discrete set), $f_2$ is a quotient of smooth functions, hence smooth
 
3:49 PM
Ah, so we can just consider the smooth parts individually
 
yeah, a $\mathbb{R}^n$-valued function $f$ is $C^k$ iff the components $f_i$ are all $C^k$
 
Okay that's good to know. Most of the stuff I'll ever be dealing with has this property I feel, where it's smooth outside of a discrete set
 
this follows directly from the definition, as limits on $\mathbb{R}^n$ work componentwise
 
Yeah. Existence of partials alone doesn't buy you differentiability, but continuous partials buys you $C^1$
e.g. $f(x,y) = \sqrt[3]{xy}$ at $(0,0)$
 
I wonder, can we get all partials to exist and be continuous at a point, but the function to be discontinuous at that point
 
4:01 PM
I think not
Or, wait, hmm
I see the subtlety: only at the point, not the nbhd
 
Oh, yes. It cannot be a sphere. I mean look at $\mathbb{CP}^2$. The open set $U_0 = \{[z_0 : z_1 : z_2] : z_0 \ne 0\}$ is a neighborhood of $[1 : 0 : 0]$, but $\mathbb{CP}^2 - U_0$ is homeomorphic to $\mathbb{CP}^1$. We removed a connected neighborhood of $\mathbb{CP}^2$ and its still something which is not contractible, it wouldn't have happened if it were a sphere.
 
yeah
this is a horrible question, why did I ask it
 
@feynhat Exactly. You could have removed a point, still the same effect.
So what kind of compactification is $\Bbb{CP}^2$ of $\Bbb R^4$?
 
Not one-point.
(rip internet)
 
But what do you add to the infinity
 
4:05 PM
I don't know any other compactifications.
 
Wait so just to clarify
If all the partials exist and are continuous at $x$
Does that tell us anything, or not?
 
Sorry, should've been more specific. If partials are continuous in some neighborhood of $x$ then the function is $C^1$ at $x$
 
if you just know that at $x$, it doesn't tell you much, I think
 
@feey
 
if you know it in a neighborhood of $x$, we're gucci
 
4:08 PM
Oh I see, but all we'd need to know is that there is an $\epsilon$ ball around $x$ where the partials exist and are continuous
And then we have continuous differentiability at $x$?
 
@feynhat You just told him
It's not something "canonical", he's asking you what's at infinity if you delete $\Bbb C^2$
 
then we even have continuous differentiability in that entire epsilon ball
 
Ah right of course
 
CP^1
 
Just make a smaller ball inside that ball haha
 
4:09 PM
Yup, thanks.
 
I think it's correct in general to even say that $C^k$ partials in a nbhd implies $C^{k+1}$ in that nbhd
 
just induct it up, no?
 
Right
 
Whats the picture though? How should I think of CP^2?
 
Now how to automate this to get the statement "$f$ is continuously differentiable almost everywhere" back out
Probably a pretty interesting line of research in there somewhere
 
4:12 PM
depends on your f
there's no end-all be-all method to determining differentiability
 
Yeah, this is a recurring theme in my work
 
For your example of $f$, the coordinates are $C^\infty$ except at certain vertical lines, and hence so are the partials, and hence so is $f$ itself
 
@feynhat CP^2 is R^4 = C^2 with a CP^1 at infinity (whereas there should really be a S^3 at infinity parametrizing all real directions, the point is you only parametrize complex directions)
 
Yeah, I think that noting that $f$ is a sum/product/composition of smooth function except at discrete points/ lines / planes/ hyperplanes? will get me a lot of "coverage"
Since my work is in computer science, and the problems I solve are non-computable in general, all of this is more about covering as much as we can
 
@BalarkaSen Well, it'd be an RP^3 if you were parameterizing real directions
 
4:15 PM
Oriented real directions :)
I am imagining linear rays from 0 to infinity
A point for each of them gives an S^3
 
@feynhat That's the answer. It's a C^2 with a CP^1 at infinity. If you're in the same line of C^2, you go to the same point at infinity
 
@MikeMiller It's kind of cool that this is the first example of the fact that these various maps between boundaries always give interesting maps
 
You're talking about the attaching map here?
 
Yeah
The coarsest boundary of a linear space $V$ is the sphere $S_\infty$ at infinity. If $V$ is complex linear space, you have the complex projective space $\Bbb P_\infty$ at infinity. There's a map $S_\infty \to \Bbb P_\infty$ going in the other way coming from the forgetful functor, which is our Hopf map
This situation I think comes up a lot with people who do boundary stuff
 
@EdwardEvans that's because $E_\sigma \cap K^{ur} = K(\mu_{q^n-1})$
you're taking the maximal unramified subfield
 
4:32 PM
Okay, slightly more complicated sanity check: say $f : X \to Y$ is a smooth map whose derivative $df_x$ is a linear iso for all $x$ in a submanifold $Z$, and which is injective on $Z$. Then I am to prove that $f$ is a diffeo on a neighborhood of $Z$.

This is just because if it fails to be a diffeo on such a neighborhood, I can find a point $z \in Z$ and make two distinct sequences that converge to $z$ and which map to the same sequence in $Y$, but that would contradict the inverse function theorem at $z$, right?
 
You mean diffeo onto its image?
 
Yeah. What I'm (claiming to be) proving is that $f|_Z : Z \to Y$ is a diffeo of a nbhd of $Z$ onto a nbhd of $f(Z)$
 
Hmm. IFT tells you $f$ is a diffeo onto its image on a neighborhood of each point in $Z$. Glue these neighborhoods together and get a neighborhood of $Z$ on which $f$ is a local diffeo onto its image. This gives the desired conclusion iff $f$ is injective on that neighborhood. Why can we guarantee that..
 
4:48 PM
Well, if it fails, then in particular, it fails somewhere---there must be some $z \in Z$ and distinct sequences $\{a_i\}, \{b_i\}$ in $X$ that converge to $z$ with $f(a_i) = f(b_i)$ by doing nbhd shenanigans
 
I don't see why you get two sequences converging to the same point
 
Oh, hang on, sorry, I left out a detail here
 
Ah, nvm, I think I get it
 
$Z$ is compact
 
aha!
 
4:52 PM
small wiggling of an injective linear map is an injective linear map
take small balls where this happens and take union over all Z
 
Is that at me or thor?
 
yeah, the issue is that wiggling of any old injective map isn't necessarily injective
 
Yeah we only have injectivity of the whole function on $Z$ itself, although we do have linear iso of the derivative on $Z$ as well
 
@Fargle to anyone concerned but i guess you guys figured it out
 
Just wanted to make sure that argument held up to scrutiny
 
4:56 PM
Yeah your argument looks good
 
G&P's got them good hints
 
Nice that you're working through G&P
 
It's long overdue, I hadn't gotten past 1.2 after like two years
 

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