The Bridge

Nick T

22:01

@RavenDreamer how does one become eligible for a free month?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@NickT Level 50 character or legacy level 6

AWWWW YEAH NEW SANTIGOLD ALBUM. (/cc @mana)

Marco Ceppi

Santigold! \o/

badp

wat

LessPop_MoreFizz

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@MarcoCeppi I has the new album. Hooray.

Nick T

@LessPop_MoreFizz so if you play a shit-ton you can play even more for free?

sounds like EvE...but it's not a gold sink

and they're not getting money

LessPop_MoreFizz

22:13

@NickT 1) Level 50 in 4 months is hardly 'a shitton'.

Marco Ceppi

checks Spotify

LessPop_MoreFizz

and 2) It was a one off thing they did to lure people back to see the new Legacy System stuff. Targetted at... y'know, those players that would actually benefit from it.

@MarcoCeppi Doesn't come out for another month

Sterno

apparently we have action-rpg which, for whatever reason, covers Deus Ex and Demon's Souls, but not what you'd traditionally think of as an ARPG, like Diablo or Titan's Quest

Marco Ceppi

bahhhhhh

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Sterno KIWF

Ian Pugsley

22:15

@LessPop_MoreFizz wait time the fuck out - new Santigold?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@IanPugsley Yeah, I has promo of new record hooraaaaaay.

Sterno

@LessPopMoreFizz Are you sure I shouldn't have an extended meta discussion about it first? :P

Ian Pugsley

@LessPop_MoreFizz holy shit awesome, I've been waiting years

LessPop_MoreFizz

This record is excellent but it has an awful awful cover.

Lazers

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Q: Based on the difficulty, which of Deus Ex:HR or Dark Souls should I buy?

the title says it all. I used to be a gamer on the SNES, I have taken up modern gaming, recently bought an XBOX 360 and I've played Half Life 2, am playing Fallout 3 and Batman Arkham Asylum, so far I've been doing fine difficulty-wise, I wanted to play a medieval RPG or some medieval stuff, I wa...

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Q: How do you get the gold key from the Osmos-like area?

I'm trying to get the key from the Osmos-like (bunch of round things swimming around in a nodule) screen, and my little flying dude keeps getting knocked back. I've tried jamming the small 1-2-3 marked blobs into the holes that puff the windmill guy back to no avail. How do I get said key?

botanicula

LessPop_MoreFizz

22:19

@IanPugsley @MarcoCeppi Here, stream the whole album: hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.18838/…

And I wasn't kidding about the terrible cover art:

Sterno

I feel bad saying to newbies "join us in chat to talk about the question we just closed" when they have 1 rep and can't actually do that.

Ian Pugsley

@LessPop_MoreFizz it could be a picture from a shock site (take your pick) and I'd still love it

Sterno

We never actually made an end to endings.

Marco Ceppi

@LessPop_MoreFizz terrible, or terribly awesome?! nope, pretty bad.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Sterno 1) The problem is twofold: 1) There are too many questions tagged as such for me to feel comfortable spamming the homepage on a crusade to be rid of it, and 2) the merge/synonym proposal put forward by Raven Dreamer is fundamentally unworkable given the diversity of kinds of questions currently under the tags heading. Hence, my request that it be burninated, rather than simply cleared out by someone editing. — LessPop_MoreFizz Mar 27 at 4:02

tl;dr: Blame mods they need to do it.

Sterno

22:27

Yeah, sorry, wasn't complaining to you. I know I'd brought it up before with you. Just mentioning it in chat again (and probably will in another month)

We have absolutely no mechanism for moving forward with stuff on meta

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Sterno The worst is when it's a clear request for moderator action, and not just 'hey can we have a new policy?' and still nothing gets done. :(

Sterno

Agreed

LessPop_MoreFizz

I can sort of understand the mod position of not wanting to make decisions on formalizing policy on things. But this is different.

Nick T

@Lazers ah, finally got this

controlling the red blob is annoying as hell

Sterno

I FAIL AT KEYBOARD SHORTCUTS

badp

22:30

We don't actually have a kill tag button

LessPop_MoreFizz

And we can't even bounty them the way that you can on MSO to harangue people.

badp

I thought you'd knew

LessPop_MoreFizz

@badp I was of the understanding that you could edit the posts without bumping them though.

Nick T

I tried a couple times and just gave up figuring it was impossible; it moves like 1/5th what the others do

badp

@LessPop_MoreFizz Wrong.

Sterno

22:30

@agent86 @RavenDreamer @badp We need mod help to burn endings as per this meta

Ben Brocka

assuming it's a policy, the general methods are
1: Community enforces agreed on policy
2: Mod action where necessary
3: FAQ update

LessPop_MoreFizz

Thereby killing the tag the old fashioned way, but without fucking up the homepage.

Ben Brocka

But 2 and 3 are pretty extreme

badp

@Sterno We're no different than regular users when it comes to killing tags

Nick T

and 1 never happens

LessPop_MoreFizz

22:31

@badp I stand corrected then.

Sterno

@badp That makes me sad

Ben Brocka

Only the SE team can kill tags like that

LessPop_MoreFizz

I'll happily do it, but the homepage is going to look shitty for a while.

badp

@LessPop_MoreFizz I do wish we had more powerful tools when it comes to tags, but I guess it's just too risky

Sterno

@LessPop_MoreFizz We can just do 2 a day for a month :P

badp

22:32

There is one thing about tags we can do that you should not though and it's renaming tags

or merging a tag into another

that's just one click away, no bumpings

Sterno

I bet if you renamed it to sterno-is-awesome, you could get an SE employee to come delete it!

LessPop_MoreFizz

@badp Yeah, but a merge is inappropriate in this case, for reasons I noted in the comments to @RavenDreamer's answer.

badp

@Sterno He'd delete that tag and then my diamond

@LessPop_MoreFizz I know

Ben Brocka

sterno-is-spy

LessPop_MoreFizz

Which is that there isn't a single convenient merge point. story only covers about half of them.

Sterno

22:33

@badp You could then regret that you had but one diamond to give for your country.

badp

that said - hold on a second, I'll see if there's anybody from the staff around

Nick T

@Sterno so by "diamond" do you mean "fucks"? as in "not one fuck was given"

Sterno

@NickT No. No I don't mean that at all.

Nick T

I have a trumpet in Botanicula, what do I do with it

Ben Brocka

We need a mod only tag tool

Nick T

22:35

I can't scare away this scarab-bee thing or the crab-scissors

badp

So no, there's no employees around it seems

Nick T

is it that stupid squirrel?

Ben Brocka

On the left is a blue button that renames the tags. On the right is a red button that blacklists the tags. In the middle is a green button that merges the tag with an existing tag.

Nick T

why can't you just blacklist it?

Ben Brocka

Mods can't blacklist

LessPop_MoreFizz

22:36

Okay, fuck it, I'm doing it.

Also, tons of these Endings questions have intolerably bad titles that need fixing anyway

Check the history on this one:

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Q: Where did the apple that Altair hides in the library come from?

I've just finished my first play-through revelations yesterday, and something is bothering me since. Is there something that I've missed? (It's not impossible, as I was already quite tired and sleepy by the end).

assassins-creed-revel assassins-creed-series

Sterno

@LessPopMoreFizz I'd already ruined half of the front page already, deleting action-rpg

Nick T

oh, it is for the scarab-bee

I just suxxors at clicking

Ben Brocka

kerning

Nick T

@LessPopMoreFizz strikes main page with 11 edits. Main page dies.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Just 8? I'm just getting started!

Nick T

22:42

well that's almost everything that's above the fold for me

LessPop_MoreFizz

Welp, that's 12, I'll pause for a bit now.

Nick T

2 can play at this game :D

agent86

META FIGHT! ROUND 2,287, START!

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A: Could someone explain this joke to me?

I've had a problem with this ever since it was posted, but NickT's discussion on the interpretation of the "practical" clause in the FAQ sorta/kinda helped me put into perspective why. Interpreting Impractical Story, trivia, and terminology-type questions are on-topic for the site. The problem...

LessPop_MoreFizz

@NickT Are you joining in?

Because if so, do me the favor of helping to clean up the various bad titles on them as well.

Because oh god, some of them are so bad.

SPOILER: QUESTION ABOUT THE SPOILER AFTER SPOILER IN SPOILER. (I'd tell you what game I'm playing, but I'm afraid that might be a SPOILER!) SPOILER ALERT HERE, BEWARE OF DRAGONS IF YE CLICK THIS LINK.

badp

@LessPop_MoreFizz damn you man! I didn't know there was something to spoil about that game to begin with!

My game is forever ruined!

It's all your fault! ban!

Lazers

22:50

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Q: Is anything known about clothing wear rates?

Do we known anything about differential wear rates between clothing items? Does material affect wear rate? (Leather, cloth, silk, yarn, adamantine; do they wear out at different speeds?) Does quality affect wear rate? (Does a masterwork item last longer than an ordinary one?) Do shoes and soc...

dwarf-fortress

Ben Brocka

@badp banned for banning

Nick T

@BenBrocka flagged for banning for banning

badp

@BenBrocka banned for banning as revenge banning

Ben Brocka

@badp suspended for double secret revenge banning

StrixVaria

@OrigamiRobot You're red on my brand new laptop which was purchased after you changed back to green.

badp

22:52

@BenBrocka banned, you know why you deserve it, I don't have to come up with a reason myself.

if in doubt it's going to be because you never really were on our side, what with all the bannings.

Ben Brocka

@badp banned for being too lazy to come up with ban reasons

badp

@BenBrocka banned for flamebaiting about ban reasons

Ben Brocka

@badp banned for disparaging the ban

badp

@BenBrocka banned for not being banned already after the tenth try, you clearly must be an haxx0r.

Ben Brocka

@badp ironic ban for the same reason because it's okay when I do it

badp

23:05

um. wat. Now medics can ubersaw buildings and get uber out of it.

That must be like a full uber out of a dispenser 3.

Ridicolous.

Wipqozn86

James

Well this is just Awesome there Mr C#.NET

You return 3 different IO exceptions when a path with an invalid drive letter is given to you

!!!!

Nick T

@Wipqozn86 say what you will, but after seeing The Last Airbender movie, that was far worse than any Twilight. Both on it's own and relative to the source material.

murgatroid99

@NickT Really? Maybe it's because I watched the Rifftrax version of The Last Airbender, but I thought Twilight (at least the movie) was much worse

Nick T

a) apparently white = good, ethnic = bad, b) a bunch of earthbenders were penned up in a god damn canyon, c) firebenders needed a candle or something, and d) Katara was a wuss.

murgatroid99

23:18

@NickT Twilight was so boring. Nothing happened. At all

Nick T

I would rather have stared at white screen for 2 hours than watch The Last Airbender

probably be more spiritual

murgatroid99

@NickT Maybe it was the Rifftrax then. That actually made it pretty funny

Blem

@murgatroid99 The problem i see is The Last airbender the movie messes with it's own series where Twilight messes with existing mythical creatures

murgatroid99

@Blem The problem with Twilight is that it's terribly written and has horrible characters and unrealistic interpersonal interactions

And it's all just the author inserting herself into an unrealistic situation so she can pretend to have sex with her imaginary boyfriend

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Lazers

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Q: How do I breed a Sakura Dragon?

There's a new Sakura Dragon in the market with the elements Plant, Earth and Fire. Sounds like it's limited time. How do I get a Sakura Dragon egg and how will I know when I get one? Approximately how rare are they? How long do I have to breed one?

dragonvale

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Q: DogFighter - Missing Textures

I recently purchased DogFighter on Steam and when I play the tutorial, I get missing textures. The screen's bottom is black and the top is white. However, I can still see the silhouette of the airplane in 3rd person view. My CYRI Analysis: CPU Minimum You Have: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 370 @...

pc steam graphics-card

Blem

23:24

@murgatroid99 Yes, but imo if they had called them something else than vampires it wouldn't have mattered much, it would have been just another sucky teen movie

murgatroid99

@Blem I read this review blog for Twilight (the book) that reviewed one chapter per post and it gives a pretty clear explanation of why it is an absolutely terrible work of fiction

markreads.net/reviews/2010/11/…

Blem

@murgatroid99 what is your point?

murgatroid99

@Blem At least according to that blog, the book seemed much worse than just a stupid teen romance story.

And I would have much preferred to watch a random stupid teen movie than the boring stupidity of Twilight

Nick T

@murgatroid99 what, you don't want to have sex with a corpse? I thought everyone wanted to.

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murgatroid99

@NickT I don't, but that's not even the relevant part here. Bella is like an inverse Mary Sue (she is a generally unlikeable person and everyone loves her for it) and Edward is a complete asshole, and then they incomprehensibly fall in love

Ronan Forman

23:33

@Origami They're decimal points...

murgatroid99

Also, it might be kind of telling if the author inserts an idealized version of themselves into a story and the character is still impossible to empathize with

Nick T

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Q: How do I breed a Sakura Dragon?

There's a new Sakura Dragon in the market with the elements Plant, Earth and Fire. Sounds like it's limited time. How do I get a Sakura Dragon egg and how will I know when I get one? Approximately how rare are they? How long do I have to breed one?

dragonvale

Blem

@murgatroid99 you forgot to mention that he is pretty much a pedophile being old and still going for high school students

Nick T

3 distinct answers that seem(?) mutually exclusive

dunno how the game works though

Blem

murgatroid99

23:35

@Blem That's the thing. Even if you ignore all of the stupid stuff that comes from inserting these fantasy creatures into a romance, you still get a stupid terrible situation/story

@Blem How can they be pedophiles if he's old and dead?

Nick T

I thought necrophilia was the issue

Blem

@NickT The girl is a necrophile and the guy is a pedophile... Though with the acting you could argue that they are both necrophile

user2334

@murgatroid99 A more pressing question is why isn't Edward Cullen considered a pedophile and/or Twilight considered promoting pedophilia?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@murgatroid99 See also 'Cougars'.

Nick T

Is it set in the south where the age of consent is like 14?

user2334

23:40

No, Washington

murgatroid99

@MarkTrapp He is physically not really old, so they kind of gloss over it. The more important question is why is Twilight promoting abusive and codependent relationships?

@LessPop_MoreFizz You still call them that if the guy they want is dead and cold?

Blem

@MarkTrapp I don't know if I am impressed or a bit scared that you could answer that so fast O_o

Wipqozn86

I love you are currently arguing over how bad Twilight is. Not is it bad, but just how bad is it?

user2334

@murgatroid99 Also: newborn baby/werewolf arranged marriages

Nick T

murgatroid99

23:41

5 mins ago, by murgatroid99

@Blem That's the thing. Even if you ignore all of the stupid stuff that comes from inserting these fantasy creatures into a romance, you still get a stupid terrible situation/story

Nick T

dark blue = 16, olive = 17, green = 18

murgatroid99

That's the kind of stuff I was talking about

Nick T

very light blue = 12

pink = puberty

murgatroid99

@NickT seriously?

Nick T

yes

Ages of consent in North America

The ages of consent in North America for sexual activity vary by jurisdiction. The age of consent in Canada is 16. All U.S. states set their limits between 16 and 18. The age of consent in Mexico is complex. Typically, Mexican states have a "primary" age of consent (which may be as low as 12), and sexual conduct with persons below that age is always illegal. Sexual relations between adults and teenagers are left in a legal gray area: laws against adults "corrupting" minors may be used sometimes to punish such sexual encounters, as well as laws against engaging in sexual relatio...

murgatroid99

23:42

@NickT There's like 4 different blues

Nick T

the other ones are 13-15

LessPop_MoreFizz

> "Back in September 1958, a roly-poly Tulsa boy named Billy Jay Killen came home from high school and wanted to watch Dick Clark's television program, American Bandstand. His mother, who didn't particularly care for rock music, was all set to watch a different program so she told Billy 'No.' He seethed the whole night long. Then in the morning Billy took out a rifle and shot his mother dead. Millions of American teenagers feel just as strongly about Dick Clark."

Nick T

the darkest not dark-blue is 15

user2334

@Blem It's set in the Olympic Peninsula so any time one of the dumb movies comes out, the local news makes it a point to mention where it's set

user2334

Also, I have a fascination with temperate rain forests, also found in the Olympic Peninsula. Screw Twilight for overtaking temperate rain forests as the thing it's known for

murgatroid99

23:46

On a completely different topic, Tara Strong has the best twitter account ever

Spoiler!!!! http://t.co/BqF06WBH

Tweeted by tarastrong on April 19, 2012 at 11:19 PM

SPOILER #2!!! http://t.co/PtrrWnYF

Tweeted by tarastrong on April 19, 2012 at 11:41 PM

Nick T

Is she like the MLP creator or something?

murgatroid99

@NickT She voices Twilight Sparkle. She also does voice acting in like everything

Blem

I better get to bed, got my final job interview tomorrow, have to be ready to negotiate a good starting salary

Nick T

So is there some easy way to make liquid oxygen using LN2?

murgatroid99

@Blem good luck

James

23:52

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A: What's the minimum amount of stuff you need from the surface to be self-sufficient underground?

Having done the "nether only if not dead" experience, you at least have water - it'll be easier :) The bare minimum, as James' answer states, is one sapling. If you want something resembling the "full" experience: Tools - you need wood for nearly every tool (except shears). Need: at least one s...

Nick T

b.p. of O2 is 12 K above N2

James

Ya know, that answer really annoys me.. It is an answer to a question that was not asked and simply because it has more information, again not directly answering the question asked, it gets more +s

murgatroid99

@NickT This might be of interest to you

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Lazers

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Q: Does it matter timing in combat?

When fighting monsters, does it matter the moment when you press attack? Or should I just press them as fast as possible to maximize the damage output?

legend-of-grimrock

Nick T

@murgatroid99 yeah, I know LO2 has some fun properties, I just don't have easy access to it. LN2 is all around my lab, however.

oh, they make it too

I don't have a tank of pure O2 either though :P

murgatroid99

23:57

@NickT yeah, that's why I linked to it

@NickT My guess is that getting pure O2 is a completely separate problem that does not involve liquid nitrogen

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