The Bridge

Downvoter

16:00

when you check for availability they register it?

radp

some services do.

Arda Xi

Registrant:
Stack Overflow Internet Services, Inc.

55 Broadway
Floor 25
New York, New York 10006
United States

who.godaddy.com/…

So yes, it was registered by SO

radp

fair enough

so now we know SO use GoDaddy....

Arda Xi

Rolled it back

radp

err, I also did

:/

Arda Xi

16:07

You were a second faster

radp

\o/

put the link in the comments

Arda Xi

already did

lost the link for a sec

radp

while we are at it

who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?domain=quicksave.com

Registrant Contact:
Dynamo.com LLC
Dynamo.com Whois Protection ()

Arda Xi

Dynamo creates mind-catching new names for companies and products.
We provide new naming options for your venture, packaged with the intuitive dot-com (ie. Honda.com rather than HondaAutomobiles.com), and screened for trademark.

We could use them, lol

radp

Yeah, right

Dynamo squats domains so they have to pay us extra!

Arda Xi

16:12

don't seem to be the squatters

they just protect the name of the squatters themselves

radp

no, I think their business model is

1. register cool names
2. put them in a pool
3. help people choose between the pool
4. sell from the pool

Arda Xi

doubt it

it says "Whois Protection"

radp

look,

Arda Xi

My domain isn't registered under my name either

whois.net/whois/arienh4.net

radp

Q. I have my new name picked, so I want to start protecting mark rights and getting free press immediately. What can Dynamo do for me?

A. If you've got a web location ready, we can set up a splash page displaying your new Dynamo brand, with a .gif logo, multiple live emails, and the company info you'd like posted. We can usually set this up the same day you request it. [...]

Full blurb

Arda Xi

16:14

as I said

they just protect the name of the squatters themselves

radp

except quicksave.com does not have such a page

Arda Xi

so it isn't the case

they're just performing Whois protection

radp

yes, of their own name pool

Arda Xi

how do you know that

how do you know it isn't a customer?

radp

well I really don't know, it's going to be a problem anyway.

I can speculate, can I not?

Arda Xi

16:15

doesn't have to be

radp

How can you tell your version is right?

Arda Xi

sure you can, but don't assume worst case

radp

not assuming worst case, it seems to be in line with what they do -- branding

Arda Xi

"well I really don't know, it's going to be a problem anyway." that's assuming worst case

radp

if it is like you put it, there's going to be this extra middleman

who is "committed" to "total privacy"

Arda Xi

16:17

there's always going to be a squatter in the middle for a squatted domain

"Your email and contact data will not be sold or used for any purpose other than communicating with you concerning a name project you've initiated,"

In this case it's "concerning a name project [they]'ve initiated"

anyway, I gotta go now

radp

I say we solve the problem of the root and get joel to create a .qa top level name

Arda Xi

we'll see what happens, okay?

radp

then we can be games.qa

Arda Xi

yeah, it's only like $1000

radp

and others can be webapps.qa

Arda Xi

16:18

erm, $10000

radp

just 10k$? bargain!

radp

16:47

ohhhh!

XN--ABAB-FT8AAFAKBGB80AS41C.COM is available!

Sathya

fun fact: paste it in Chrome omnibox and it renders the Unicode version, not the xn-blah-abla-blah

radp

-6

A: Suggest a domain name for this site

↑↓↑↓←→←→abab↩▶.com a.k.a. XN--ABAB-FT8AAFAKBGB80AS41C.COM Available!

Sathya

or is it just pulling from history :-s

MatthewMartin

17:10

XN--ABAB-FT8AAFAKBGB80AS41C.COM has a lot of advantages. It is unlikely to be confused with any other URL, except maybe XN--ABAB-FTBAAFAKBGBBOAS4lC.COM

radp

well, seriously now, how many of you don't have ↑ or ↓ bound on your keyboard? :o

Sathya

17:23

Yay! first answer on gaming.stackex /eyeroll

1

A: Is there a slash command to mute (or squelch) a player in Diablo 2?

/squelch <*account name> or /ignore <*account name> should squelch or mute players, respectively

radp

what does squelch actually mean? :/

Sathya

ignore ?

mute is to stop receiving chats right

alexanderpas

17:41

hmm... xn--ba-rzuadaibfa.com might also be an option.

radp

xn--ba-BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.com would've been a cool idea a few weeks ago also.

alexanderpas

i believe there are some invalid codepoints in there...

radp

do you get white noise out of it?

then it's working

a slight increase in homicidal impulse may also be expected

radp

18:05

gaming.stackexchange.com/badges/11/taxonomist

you cheapskates :P

dual screening and gaming

the pain

oww, I can feel it.

Downvoter

hardcore gaming

Downvoter

good way to play two games at the same time

Sathya

20:04

1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3180423

^^ Starcraft II sys requirements

Grace Note

20:36

Very extremely ultra difficult. Nice.

Downvoter

lol

Grace Note

I was always a fan of "Lunatic", but that's the curtain fire gamer in me

Downvoter

I don't know what Lunatic is

Downvoter

I did not intentionally made a reference

Grace Note

Lunatic is the highest difficulty setting used in the Touhou series of curtain fire games. It's very fun. ♪

Arda Xi

20:40

Neat paradox

Grace Note

I wonder who deleted the parent question

Arda Xi

I don't know how to answer it

Downvoter

it was deleted by Jeff

Arda Xi

@Grace probably jeff, when he deleted all of his questions without answers

Grace Note

Ah, okay

Downvoter

20:41

I guess he missed that one

Downvoter

also, why is "marco.ragogna"'s name not a link?

Arda Xi

where?

Downvoter

gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/63/…

Downvoter

closers

Arda Xi

@Juan @Jeff didn't miss the question, it had an answer

Grace Note

20:44

Oh, hey, I have >500 rep. That's something nice to come home to

Downvoter

oh

Arda Xi

Yay! Another List of X!

Grace Note

...wee

Good question about marco, @Juan. I'm not sure why it's not a link

Arda Xi

And I have 19 close votes again, yay

Downvoter

I had too many close votes

Arda Xi

20:46

Come fix it :)

Grace Note

He doesn't have his name linked in the Revisions List, either

Jeff Atwood

LIST OF X!

Grace Note

Aftoon @Jeff ♪

Arda Xi

When are we getting the close reason? :D

gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/2448/…

That's a subjective question if I ever saw one

Grace Note

Oh... even worse...

Downvoter

20:48

Jeff always comes when I have to leave, he obviously doesn't like me

Arda Xi

that was quick

Downvoter

wow, close record

Arda Xi

1 minute, yay team

Downvoter

this chat is awesome

Arda Xi

so @Jeff, what's going to happen when the chat beta ends?

Noctrine

20:50

ooo

Grace Note

Aftoon, @Noctrine ♪

Arda Xi

Good evening

Noctrine

Hey, don't know why it didn't occur to me to click the tabs on the room selection thing.

alexanderpas

gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/2447/… is closed too now.

Arda Xi

I think my name is in at least half of the 'closed by' lists

Grace Note

20:52

I really did not expect Cosmo Police Galivan, of all games, to earn me that much rep

Noctrine

It is, you Alexander Grace and Juan

Oh, and ChrisF every one :P

Downvoter

this topic gives room for so much discussion

Downvoter

it's very difficult to keep on topic

Downvoter

not impossible @Jeff, not impossible!!

Noctrine

Well, the issue is getting new users used to the SE system. The private beta wasn't that bad because many of the users were trilogy vets... but now...

Downvoter

20:54

are they all new users?

Noctrine

It would be nice to have specific close messages. I'd vote for "This is not a forum"

Downvoter

or are there some veterans too?

Grace Note

I don't see a lot of veterans aside from maybe rlb.

Noctrine

I wouldn't doubt there being some, but most of them have under 100 rep and you get 100 from having 200 or more at any of the sites.

Grace Note

In terms of new users in the public beta

Downvoter

20:55

I meant new users as not familiar with the SE software

Grace Note

I think Aarobot's idea of "Discussion or Poll" as a close reason is perfect

Arda Xi

Ooh, Valve just announced a new free game coming out monday

rockpapershotgun.com/2010/07/16/…

alexanderpas

"Discussion or Poll" seems a perfect close reason... where can I upvote it? ;)

Downvoter

cool @arda, thanks

Grace Note

27

A: Should we have a "List of X" close reason?

How about instead of List of X, you just add a Discussion or Poll close reason? That's really what a list is on a Stack Exchange site where answers get voted for - a poll. Most of the annoying bikeshed questions on existing sites are, in fact, polls of some sort. So how about instead of relyin...

And now I have Crystalis music stuck in my head, all because I was thinking about exploding waterfalls which subsequently made me think of exploding scenery

alexanderpas

20:58

Valve did it again, first Counterstrike, then Portal (Nabucalar Drop(sp?)) and now Alien Swarm.

Downvoter

I got Portal for free too

Arda Xi

Heh, I paid for the full Orange Box, back in 07

back when TF2 was fun

Jeff Atwood

it's not fun any more?

Arda Xi

Not IMHO

alexanderpas

got it in the orange box, together with Half life 2 + ep1 + ep2 and TF2... (and I didn't own them at that time.... shame...) So I call that a pretty deal!

Arda Xi

21:00

It's become like an MMORPGFPS now

Noctrine

I bought it for a lan party, then a little while later it became free.

Never got into TF2, never played Half Life, but Portal was awesome

Arda Xi

you bought portal for a lan party?

but it's single-player!

alexanderpas

Never Played half life? You're missing out!

Grace Note

I think we bought the orange box a year late, but it's still unopened

Noctrine

I bought the Orange Box for the lan party for TF2.

Downvoter

21:02

omg, play half life please

Grace Note

I had to play Half Life for my homework assignment, once

And Grim Fandango, too.

Arda Xi

How the? Your school is awesome

Noctrine

I wish Lucasarts would go back to epic adventure games instead of Star Wars remakes. It's nice that Telltale got Monkey Island though

Grace Note

Between that and my assignments to make collages, I think my roommates absolutely loathed me

alexanderpas

hmm... howework assignment: you need to have finshed Half-Life before next week, oh, and don't forget the games you need to play for the other classes!

Jeff Atwood

21:04

I kinda hated Half Life 2. Loved 1.

Grace Note

It was "Play for at least 3 hours", I recall

Jeff Atwood

the combat in HL2 was so .. lame

Grace Note

Never played 2, myself

Ah, it was "Play at least 8 hours of Half Life". That was the assignment

Arda Xi

true, 1 was much better than 2

Downvoter

I need EP3 to have closure

Jeff Atwood

21:05

it was just "shoot mindless combine soldier in face, repeat"

Downvoter

loved 1, 2, and portal

alexanderpas

I still think the episodes were the best.

Arda Xi

I really want to see Half-Life 3 with Portal intertwined

alexanderpas

@arda ep3 maybe?

Grace Note

One of these days I should finish Half Life

Downvoter

21:06

see my last comment here @Arda:

Grace Note

I should also finish Grim Fandango, too

Arda Xi

@alex don't think so, that's starting to put them together

alexanderpas

hey, no spoiler posting here ;)

btw: nice number of votes!

Noctrine

I really like the aperture science website. Got lazy searching for information on it though, I hope 2 gets a GUI :p

Arda Xi

meh, half of what that timeline posts is only speculation

hardly any of it is true

Downvoter

21:07

oops, sorry

Grace Note

I should give Samidare Extra another run...

Jeff Atwood

you know what was really surprisingly good: Supreme Commander 2

Supreme Commander 1 was so meh, and that kiled me because i LOOOOVED Total Annihilation (1997)

so if you like RTS at all I can recommend supcom 2, but not supcom1

Noctrine

2 looks nice, I'll have to find a demo later.

Grace Note

For anyone interested in a good 17 minutes of time spent: youtube.com/watch?v=Sq0YRt45yRk and youtube.com/watch?v=lyLJ1bao-rU&NR=1

alexanderpas

hmm... Bullet Hell is not my genre.

Grace Note

21:14

It's the only genre I love as much as platforming

Noctrine

Yeah, I can't do bullet hell. Much respect to those who can, but some of those are just... no.

Is the feed enabled here?

Arda Xi

yeah

Grace Note

Yes

alexanderpas

Nintendo Hard is okay, Platform Hell is funny sometimes.

Noctrine

What is the update delay?

Arda Xi

21:18

10 minutes I think

Grace Note

About a minute

Noctrine

I love Nintendo Hard, I wish more games were that difficult now.

Grace Note

Or... maybe 10

Nintendo hard eventually got too easy for me

Ivo Flipse

I never finished Half-Life, forgot to take the jump suit way at the start and couldn't make the jump...

Noctrine

I don't play games frequently enough with work/school to have that problem again.

Ivo Flipse

21:18

or just didn't have this site to help me out

Downvoter

probably that @Ivo

Downvoter

"how can I make the jump?"

Downvoter

"take the jump suit dude"

Downvoter

+146 votes

Ivo Flipse

well I found the answer, but I couldn't get it to work :P

hehe

Grace Note

21:21

Heh

Ivo Flipse

I just watched a video, to know how it ended

from a speedrun through half-life, ridiculous I might add

gametrailers.com/user-movie/half-life-speedrun-0-31-00/93107

Noctrine

/me makes a mental note to take the jumpsuit

Downvoter

I'm ashamed of this easy rep

Noctrine

twitter.com/codinghorror/status/18716577815

Downvoter

17

A: Is selling or trading my World of Warcraft account a violation of the Terms of Service agreement?

According to the terms of use, yes Ownership/Selling of the Account or Virtual Items. Blizzard does not recognize the transfer of WoW Accounts or Blizzard Accounts (each an "Account"). You may not purchase, sell, gift or trade any Account, or offer to purchase, sell, gift or trade any Ac...

Noctrine

21:24

I miss Arcades so much.

alexanderpas

►

Noctrine

Now I have to play that again...

Grace Note

Is that the one with "Move faster Pokey"?

alexanderpas

yup!

Noctrine

►

Downvoter

21:27

I'm going home

Grace Note

Later, @Juan

Downvoter

I guess the chat won't be available tomorrow

Downvoter

so... goodbye all

Noctrine

Adios

Downvoter

and goodbye chat

Noctrine

21:28

It won't be available tomorrow?

Grace Note

Today's the last day, Noctrine

Late on the boat, I s'pose

Noctrine

Nooooooo

I was here before, just not in this room.

alexanderpas

►

Noctrine

@Jeff any word on when we will be getting chat back?

Arda Xi

I can't imagine he would just let it die

it's done great things for our community

alexanderpas

21:33

2

Q: What games are suitable for a netbook?

By suitable for a netbook, I mean not dependant on a mouse - suitable for a touchpad. It might help if they were, for example: turn based, reversible (at least within a turn), and not graphically demanding, or demanding in terms of CPU or memory. Other useful features: being able to save quickly...

Arda Xi

Another List of X or..?

I was faster :(

alexanderpas

way too broad!

Arda Xi

so which reason do we use?

Grace Note

It does specify a bit more in the question body, but it otherwise is weak

Arda Xi

We have too localized but not the opposite

Grace Note

21:34

Rattle off the adjectives for NARQ

We really need "discussion or poll"

Arda Xi

Subjective and argumentative it is I guess

Grace Note

Ach, it's open-ended, but it's not "subjective"

Noctrine

How do you define suitable for a touchpad?

Grace Note

Discussion/Poll really fits that nice nook between S&A and NARQ that will cover these

Nothing requiring fast cursor movement, or finely-controlled mouse movement

Lack of precision means longer time needed to execute actions, which is why the whole "turn based, reversible" requirement fits in with it

Also, if I'm not mistaken, 1 reputation users can't immediately CW their posts until they have 15 reputation or so

Noctrine

Really? Guess I should delete that then, it's been so long I don't remember anymore.

Grace Note

21:47

Yeah, #
# +15 to mark your own posts as Community Wiki

alexanderpas

there are now 10 people with edit capabilities.

Grace Note

Oh, enjoying the 1k? I like giving boundary votes

alexanderpas

I forwarded it, just did the same to cowgod.

Noctrine

Need to find some questions to boost my rep, OpenTTD one was a goldmine, but I had to hide most of the MMO ones because they just look like noise to me.

Grace Note

What is "multi-game"? gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/multi-game

I do not understand why this tag exists

Question seems clearly about Halo 3

Noctrine

21:59

If the armor doesn't span the series, I don't see why its there. I'd just get rid of it

Arda Xi

Zxaos added it. It doesn't seem used by any other questions though

Noctrine

It was added later by someone else anyway

Grace Note

Oh, I see

Arda Xi

He added it because he answered with "You must have both Halo 3 and Halo:ODST" I think.

Noctrine

Ah right, since they changed it

But the tag itself doesn't really add anything.

Grace Note

22:02

No, it doesn't

I should've thrown in a platform tag, though... Halo 3 is 360, right?

Noctrine

Yep

Grace Note

Or was it PC also?

Noctrine

Just 360

Grace Note

Oh. Good. I like single instances

Can we come up with better tagging for this one, too?

6

Q: Why do you need a SS for some Korean games?

For some Korean games, you need a Korean Social Security number to play. I don't understand, why is it a requirement? What's the justification?

region-locked

It's tagged [korean] [game]. So... yeah...

Noctrine

Something like play-restrictions or the like?

Access Restrictions, dunno

Grace Note

22:05

I honestly don't, either

Noctrine

Should we differ between laptop and netbooks?

2

Q: What games are suitable for a netbook?

By suitable for a netbook, I mean not dependant on a mouse - suitable for a touchpad. It might help if they were, for example: turn based, reversible (at least within a turn), and not graphically demanding, or demanding in terms of CPU or memory. Other useful features: being able to save quickly...

game-rec laptop

That question was changed to be netbook specific.

Sathya

was on a hotstreak on Bebo and it f'ing crashed. grr

Arda Xi

I still answered it based on that

Grace Note

I don't know what makes a netbook any different than a laptop

Noctrine

I don't really get it either, I thought it had something to do with processors. I don't think I've seen a dual core netbook yet, or any with a graphics card suitable for gaming

Arda Xi

22:09

It's just a lot smaller.

Designed to run only a browser

But Torchlight has a netbook mode, I'd assume it works well on netbooks

Grace Note

They added a respec to Diablo 2?

Every time I think I can stop playing it, there's more reason to go back and start playing again. Can that respec be earned retroactively?

Noctrine

hehe, I answered before the feed got to it :p

Grace Note

I don't see a lot of use to the feed, to be honest

I'm already refreshing the front page all the time

Noctrine

Saves me having to refresh the front page :p

Arda Xi

I have a notifier for it, and I'll post if there's anything to be closed

Noctrine

22:15

I wonder if there are any chrome extensions for directly answering posts

Arda Xi

what would be the point of that, you could never read the entire question in such a popup

don't think we need a 'trust' tag, security is useful though

2

Q: Is installing Homebrew on my Wii considered illegal?

While I know that Nintendo does not condone software being modded onto Wiis based on their past two updates, which have served to remove these modifications, prevent their reinstallation and do little else, is it strictly illegal for me to take advantage of vulnerabilities in order to execute una...

wii legal

Duplicate of this question since the answer mentions legality

6

Q: Will I brick my Wii if I install HomeBrew?

I've heard about the HomeBrew stuff (wiki) that'll let me download and install simple games and even write my own, but is it fully compatible with the latest updates? I've heard horror stories of people bricking their Wii's.

wii

Kevin Y

22:34

Hooray, 1k rep. :)

Arda Xi

I'm still working towards 2k

Grace Note

Well, you're beating good feet to get there. Only 500 more

Arda Xi

yeah, but questions I can answer have been relatively thin today

Kevin Y

Acceptance of answers is the only thing that bypasses the reputation cap, right?

Grace Note

Bounty as well

Questions I can answer have been relatively thin, period

Arda Xi

22:36

@Kevin Everything aside from upvotes actually

Kevin Y

I see.

I expected way more traffic when this opened to public beta.

Arda Xi

me too

although we're doing pretty well looking at the numbers

728/1617 Q/A

radp

I need to answer stuff :(

14/12 Q/A

Arda Xi

me too

fun thing about that Steam question is that it's irrelevant

He needs Steam to play the game anyway

Kevin Y

Lol, I have 7/43 Q/A.

radp

22:39

the sad thing is that people don't realize that when you run an application as administrator

it has COMPLETE access to ANY program running on the computer

except maybe core processes running by the Administrator special account and the such

Arda Xi

I disabled UAC well-knowing what the consequences are

always have an up-to-date virus scanner and a firewall

"Anyway, the choice to use Steam has already been made by Square Enix. If you don't trust them, why are you installing the game itself?"

radp

but then, "normal" administrator access is enough to install a service that then can truly have complete access

"I disabled UAC well-knowing what the consequences are" ← FAIL

Huge fail.

Sorry.

Arda Xi

Not really. I've used Vista and 7 since Vista came out

radp

yeah, I also have used Vista and 7, one year of each

Arda Xi

I've never in my life encountered a virus infection

or anything else malicious

UAC is a fail-safe for people who don't know what they're doing (majority of Windows users)

radp

22:42

so you find absolutely no issue in running Word as root?

Arda Xi

If it were done well, like on Linux, fine

Hell no, I don't run Firefox

Chrome is fully sand-boxed

I would never dare to run as root on linux

radp

so why do you dare run shit as root on Windows?

UAC is su

Arda Xi

because on Windows I hardly ever do anything I don't trust

I don't use my Windows box mainly

only for things I don't do on Linux, which are so few and far between that I know the programs and that I can trust them

It's also mostly older games and such that don't support UAC properly

radp

ctrl-shift-enter ftw :P

(it asks Windows to run the game as root via UAC elevation, because, again, UAC is basically su)

Arda Xi

Microsoft fucked up UAC from the start, to the point where many developers don't support it, which makes it run badly

radp

22:45

to be honest

Microsoft failed

Arda Xi

whereas linux applications know to avoid needing root and only ask for it when needed

radp

the whole point of UAC is letting you use Windows as a limited user by letting you give administrator access to the few programs that do need it by giving an admin password

Arda Xi

therefore I prefer to put my entire disposable OS at risk than mess around with all kinds of workarounds

radp

however, to make the user legacy happy, Microsoft default to have new users as administrators

where UAC is indeed pointless bullshit of cancel or allow

Arda Xi

anyway, chat going way off-topic here

(Windows XP supported sudo too by the way)

radp

22:47

I know, but UAC makes it much easier :)

instead of shift-right-click, run as user, enter username, enter password

I'm sorry for the rant, by the way

it just makes me mad to see good technology misunderstood and turned off

Arda Xi

no problem, I understand your point, it's just, I truly know what I'm doing

and again, I never run linux as root, so no 'good technology' wasted

this windows box doesn't run anything I can't miss

Kevin Y

Nobody here has a Mac? :|

Arda Xi

but I haven't had problems in 3 years so I don't see why I ever would

don't think so Kevin, this is a gaming QnA after all

Kevin Y

Lol. Macs . . . have Steam now. Just . . . a limited selection of games. :P

Arda Xi

I know. They should've supported Linux too

(I'd never insult Valve, you did not see that.)

radp

22:53

By the way, are there games on Steam for Mac but not for Windows?

Arda Xi

Not as far as I know

Kevin Y

I don't think so.

Arda Xi

not even sure SteamPlay supports that

radp

SteamPlay has no reason to, the whole point is crossplatform compatibility

Arda Xi

2

Q: Is installing Homebrew on my Wii considered illegal?

While I know that Nintendo does not condone software being modded onto Wiis based on their past two updates, which have served to remove these modifications, prevent their reinstallation and do little else, is it strictly illegal for me to take advantage of vulnerabilities in order to execute una...

wii legal

changed my close reason, can't exactly change it literally though

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