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GnomeSlice

10:02 PM

What's this about boning?

@RonanForman Sick!

Arda Xi

@GnomeSlice That's what you decided to reply to?

GnomeSlice

@ArdaXi I replied to the two chat pings I've got in my inbox...

In order.

Why would you guys think I would know more about boning than anyone else...

=[

@AshleyNunn You ask a DKR question when I'm not around... =[

spugsley

@GnomeSlice the 'boning' conversation is all my fault.

GnomeSlice

@spugsley So I see. I commend you for this.

You're allowed to talk about it because you're a woman.

I just get suspended...

user15026

@GnomeSlice Oh, I am sure I will have more.

spugsley

10:06 PM

@GnomeSlice mine was technically site-related? lol idk

GnomeSlice

@spugsley Oh you asked a question about it?

spugsley

@GnomeSlice many of my questions are about 'romance' options/prostitutes

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Pyrodante

asking about romantic options in a video game is a bit different then asking who gets the most undressed :P

Lazers

0

Q: How to switch from interlaced to progressive mode on Zelda Wind Waker on the Wii?

My son selected interlaced video when he started playing Zelda Wind Waker (GameCube game) on the Wii. Now it doesn't prompt us to switch back. Does this make a difference on the Wii since I set it to progressive in the Wii setup already? Is there a way to switch Wind Waker back?

spugsley

@Pyrodante hence the little quotes around romance

GnomeSlice

10:07 PM

But they let you get away with the word 'boning'?

@Pyrodante Speak for yourself.

Ronan Forman

@spug What do you need to know about PS?

spugsley

@GnomeSlice hahaha yeah, no idea how I got away with that.

GnomeSlice

My question about Soul Calibur character outfits got deleted. =[

Arda Xi

@GnomeSlice In that context, I can't imagine anyone finding that terribly offensive as such.

GnomeSlice

And the raciest word was 'skin'.

Wipqozn

10:08 PM

@GnomeSlice It has nothing to do with @spugsley being a woman, we just like suspending you.

FallenAngelEyes

@Wipqozn ...a room?

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn in b4 he edits

Arda Xi

I was wondering about that.

Ronan Forman

He's calling her fat.

Grace Note

@Wipqozn How... how!?

Wipqozn

10:09 PM

Room? What are you talking about... you guys are crazy...

Arda Xi

@GraceNote The keys are like right next to each other.

spugsley

@RonanForman I'm kind of teaching myself how to mess around with PS and I'm having trouble making shading/blending look good...if that makes any sense. When I do it, it just looks obvious

Wipqozn

@GraceNote How do I make half the typing mistakes I do?

Grace Note

Also, I would suggest, in a less cursing tone, that you do back off on doing that so often.

GnomeSlice

@spugsley Try a gradient map.

Grace Note

10:10 PM

@Wipqozn That would be the question I just asked you.

GnomeSlice

@spugsley Which version?

Wipqozn

@GraceNote I was just hoping you'd have some hidden insight.

spugsley

@GnomeSlice no freaking clue

Pyrodante

There should be a Military Life SE

GnomeSlice

@spugsley File > About

spugsley

10:10 PM

@GnomeSlice I could probably find out. Hold on

...ui

@GnomeSlice 10.0

@GraceNote Onion?

@FallenAngelEyes @Gnome just got suspended while in the middle of trying to help @spugsley right now.

Ronan Forman

Yeah you should speak to gnome, he's better at this kind of thing.

Wipqozn

10:12 PM

@spugsley gnome wants to know if it's photoshop elements

spugsley

@Wipqozn I don't think so. I don't see the word "elements" anywhere

FallenAngelEyes

@GraceNote oy

Arda Xi

@GraceNote Chat's flagging system is a little flawed, at least where this room is concerned.

Ronan Forman

Why did he get suspended?

Arda Xi

@RonanForman IIRC he told @Wipqozn to 'fuck off', which is I suppose an easy flag to agree with if you see it out of context.

Grace Note

10:14 PM

For the F word. Which, honestly speaking, I do kinda have to agree with him about blasting him for that word when we were talking about the actual contextual action not much earlier.

Wipqozn

> Because it's going to be a lot harder for her to get into the full most powerful edition of the software right away

> And if she had access to a copy of Elements, it would be easier for her to figure out

FallenAngelEyes

Undo the ban then?

Wipqozn

> Also, tell Ronan I was going to say HE was better at this kind of thing.

I'm pretty sure he was just joking.

Arda Xi

We need a way to do community correction on flags.

Ronan Forman

I just use the brush tool, and occasionally the pen. That's about it.

Arda Xi

10:16 PM

@GraceNote Oh, @GnomeSlice wants to know how you can agree with him when you don't know he's disputing the flag.

Grace Note

@FallenAngelEyes I would almost consider this, except I do want @Gnome to know that he really should try to control him flying off so swiftly. I understand it is a sore spot for him, but flipping out and cursing doesn't really help him out...

8 mins ago, by GnomeSlice

But they let you get away with the word 'boning'?

spugsley

If I need to get suspended to make it even, go ahead. I did start this mess :/

Arda Xi

@GraceNote It's truly a double-edged sword, but if almost everyone (at least everyone vocal) agrees the flag was unjust, it should be undoable.

Wipqozn

@GraceNote He said he was just joking, which I'm fairly certain he was.

FallenAngelEyes

@GraceNote While I understand your points, if we're letting him talk through third parties anyway, it seems kinda futile.

Grace Note

10:17 PM

@spugsley I don't think you need to be suspended. Not so long after the fact, especially.

@FallenAngelEyes I call it "Education through mild discomfort"

Wipqozn

I personally dismissed the flag when I saw it since I thought he was joking.

FallenAngelEyes

I missed the flag entirely because I'm still working on Mass Effect

Grace Note

@Wipqozn Joking or not, I can't tell and he still uses the same language he uses when he's seething mad. Which, well, that's what makes me concerned.

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user15026

@GraceNote Agreed. Joke or no joke, I still think his choice of language could use some work.

Wipqozn

@GraceNote @AshleyNunn I agree with both of you in this regard, but I personally have no problem him saying this to me in a joking context.

If this was directed at another user, who had a problem with it, I would 100% stand behind the ban.

user15026

10:21 PM

@Wipqozn Fair enough, but you aren't the only person here, y'know?

user15026

It's still a public room.

Grace Note

@Wipqozn In the past here, I've been flat out insulted with a word that I didn't personally mind, but others were pretty vehemently against it. Ain't just the receiver, y'know.

Wipqozn

@AshleyNunn I agree with you, but we've always been a little loose with language here.

FallenAngelEyes

@Wipqozn But that also makes it difficult to enforce any language use on new users ("Why can they say it but not me?") and some people may be uncomfortable with that type of language regardless.

user30

chat.stackexchange.com/search?q=fuck&user=&room=35

Grace Note

10:23 PM

@Wipqozn Not everyone is entirely comfortable with this, let's be honest here.

user15026

@FallenAngelEyes This. Just because that is "how it has always been" doesn't mean everyone is going to find it okay.

FallenAngelEyes

@Wipqozn The general rule here is "unless it's directed at someone," which to the outside mods on the network here, that probably fit the bill

user30

We have 871 instances of 'fuck'. Now 872

FallenAngelEyes

@ThomasMcDonald ...lol

Sterno

Context matters. And people get that. It's just hard to codify in a rule.

Wipqozn

10:24 PM

@ThomasMcDonald Exactly.

Grace Note

@ThomasMcDonald More than 25% of all instances on all of chat.stackexchange! That's a bad thing!

user30

Context matters, but SE chat doesn't give you context, right?

Arda Xi

@Sterno Except flags lose context.

OrigamiRobot

@Sterno Repetition and patterns are also important.

Sterno

I don't think people who argue "why me and not so-in-so" are actually blind to the difference.

user30

10:24 PM

I'm not at 10k yet.

Grace Note

More than half of the instances in the Comms Room, which is actually more famous for it, too.

...and in fact more instances than the sum of all other public rooms besides those two.

user30

Like I got suspended once for something that I drop into most conversations irl that involve a shock/surprise, but well, a Biblical Hermeneutics mod answered the flag.

user30

I think that once a room reaches a given number of 10kers flags should only be broadcast locally.

user30

or something similar.

user30

I appear to have killed the conversation.

Wipqozn

10:33 PM

well, I do agree that gnome needs to be more careful with his choice of wording, even when joking, and that statements like that can warrant a suspension. I'm just saying that in this situation I was not offended at all since he was just joking.

Ronan Forman

Great, we've been pinged about a LoL video, can someone find out if they have anything about recording in their ULA?

FallenAngelEyes

@RonanForman Wait what

is it for copyright?

user30

Has it been CIDed?

Wipqozn

@RonanForman My zeus! How dare you give them free advertising!

Ronan Forman

Yup, ads have been placed on the video, we can dispute if we have a reason.

badp

10:37 PM

@GraceNote Clearly this means we should spread the verb of fuck to other rooms! We can't keep all the fuck for us. That would be, fuck, a disgrace.

user30

eh

Ronan Forman

Your video, League of Legends - Episode 1 Grace wins, may have content that is owned or licensed by RiotGames_GameID.

No action is required on your part; however, if you're interested in learning how this affects your video, please visit the Content ID Matches section of your account for more information.

Sincerely,
- The YouTube Team

user30

Which video

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn An admittedly different situation with similar reasoning is when he (or others) post risque pictures. I am not offended, but I am at work.

Ronan Forman

This is the link: youtube.com/my_videos_copyright

Wipqozn

10:38 PM

@OrigamiRobot I think this is different though.

badp

@RonanForman I'm now happy in knowing that Riot can remove all video of LoL gameplay from youtube at once.

Grace Note

@badp sigh

user30

@Ronan no. er.

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn "admittedly different" The point is everyone's opinion matters.

Arda Xi

@badp It's their content, they have a right to.

Wipqozn

10:39 PM

@OrigamiRobot I agree, but I think in a situation like this the most important opinion is the person it was directed at.

Lemmings19

Oh look, I don't have to hijack the LoL channel!

user30

@RonanForman na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=19323902#19323902

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn I'm just playing devil's advocate.

badp

@ArdaXi Yes, but it's, like, one button. One button to free the world from LoL!

Arda Xi

@badp Good to know.

user30

10:39 PM

tl;dr YT will find content for us using Game ID. We're using it to track LoL videos. Shouldn't make any difference.

FallenAngelEyes

Their stance on SOPA implied that they were fine with stuff like that

badp

@FallenAngelEyes I'm fairly certain they're fine

Ian Pugsley

@ArdaXi this is radically simplifying things

Lemmings19

So I leave the League of Legends channel, where nobody is discussing League of Legends. And I come here, where everyone seems to be talking about League of Legends... Hm.

badp

@IanPugsley Is it? It's very likely in the EULA.

Arda Xi

10:41 PM

@IanPugsley All the artwork in the video is theirs.

Ian Pugsley

@ArdaXi until there is actually a fair use ruling for LPs, it's a legal gray area

Ronan Forman

Well that's good then, but they could have worded it better...

Arda Xi

@IanPugsley Fair use does not mean the ownership transfers.

Grace Note

@Lemmings19 It's a place that it can happen but it's by no means off-topic in here. Just means that if we want to avoid disrupting whatever current conversation topic is in here, we do have a whole room devoted to it. Minecraft also has its own room in the same vein.

Ian Pugsley

@badp EULA != legality - they might have a right to ban a user for an EULA infringement, but no right to remove the video

Arda Xi

10:43 PM

@IanPugsley Actually, since the video was made using their software, they do.

FallenAngelEyes

@IanPugsley Well either way, it's a non-issue, as they're fine with content being placed on youtube

Lemmings19

@GraceNote 'vein', pun intended?

badp

@IanPugsley if the video contains their material, they may very well DMCA it

regardless or whether or not they would do that.

Grace Note

No, not intended

GnomeSlice

Feel better?

OrigamiRobot

10:44 PM

Retroactively intended.

Lemmings19

@GraceNote Well, you have achieved a pun nonetheless. A Minecraft pun.

user30

@GnomeSlice \o/

Ian Pugsley

@ArdaXi fair use is an exemption from copyright law - ownership doesn't tranfer, but the right to use content not owned by you without permission from the copyright holder is the exemption

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice My throat has been sore for a week, but it's getting better.

FallenAngelEyes

@RonanForman also relevant, if you didn't see it yet

Arda Xi

10:46 PM

@IanPugsley True, but I don't think fair use covers a merely entertainment purpose by a for-profit.

Grace Note

Oh, speaking of the current train, @Ronan, is it possible to get up to part 4 by Sunday? If not, that's fine, but just want to know because my brother is heading out on a trip Sunday afternoon.

OrigamiRobot

@ArdaXi This is why we are being urged to differentiate between community content and site content.

Ronan Forman

@Grace I wasn't planning on it. Can you not give him the link later?

badp

@OrigamiRobot Rather, community-owned and network-owned accounts

Grace Note

@RonanForman I could wait 2 weeks, yes.

badp

10:49 PM

after all the network-owned accounts still promote "community content".

OrigamiRobot

@badp Sure.

Arda Xi

@badp But they're associated with a for-profit, giving them a commercial factor.

badp

@ArdaXi eh, and so?

Arda Xi

@badp So fair use is out the window.

Ronan Forman

@Grace I meant over the internet.

badp

10:50 PM

@ArdaXi don't they already have a license to our content anyway?

Grace Note

@RonanForman Same deal

FallenAngelEyes

@RonanForman People don't always have internet access

Arda Xi

@badp That was my point, @IanPugsley retorted with fair use.

@FallenAngelEyes Since when?

badp

Who cares about fair use, SE obviously has a license to our content

it wouldn't be able to host it otherwise

Ian Pugsley

@ArdaXi fair use is a usable defense even if used for profit

FallenAngelEyes

10:52 PM

@ArdaXi I realize it's not very applicable in this country with your 99% mobile and broadband access

Arda Xi

@IanPugsley True, but it weakens your case.

@IanPugsley Note that in that case, it was decided that the accompaniment has to be performed by the parodying artist.

Ian Pugsley

@ArdaXi nonetheless, being used in a commercial instance does not disallow fair use

Arda Xi

For that case to apply to an LP, you'd have to create your own textures to record with.

Ian Pugsley

not to mention we have no commercial use (a community centered around a commercial entity definitely isn't commercial use)

Arda Xi

@IanPugsley It is if it's network-endorsed.

Ronan Forman

10:55 PM

Subscriber get! +30 exp.

Just so you know, we don't abide by SE rules.

That sounds sinister.

Lazers

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Q: How to play online multiplayer mode?

I'm very new to all things xbox live, I hope you'll treat me nicely! I enjoy halo on xbox live (even tho I'm really bad at it!) so I thought I would try out call of duty on xbox live. However, its really difficult to understand what's going on. How am I supposed to know who is on my team and w...

xbox-live xbox call-of-duty

Raven Dreamer

@RonanForman Yeah, that creeped me out on my Xerath vid.

Ronan Forman

It doesn't help that we've had an actually copyright notice before.

GnomeSlice

I suck at music. =[

Grace Note

@Raven We're doing PvP, you want in?

Ah, nevermind, we got 5

badp

11:06 PM

@RonanForman I don't think we need to worry if harmless copyright notices add up

Ronan Forman

@badp Have you done anything with the naration we did?

badp

Not really :s

GnomeSlice

Marathon?

user30

Beatport, let me checkout.

Raven Dreamer

@GraceNote I'm probably not someone you want on your team, as I'd drag our collective rating way up.

(I assume you're playing with thew newbies)

Grace Note

11:07 PM

@RavenDreamer We've got a 1287 Ranked and a 250 winner on our team already. I don't think you'd kill us that bad in matchups

Raven Dreamer

@GnomeSlice quick question - do you know of an easy way to average two wav files, sample by sample?

user30

Jeesh. It's almost like you don't want me to buy more music.

GnomeSlice

@RavenDreamer I'm not sure what you mean.

Raven Dreamer

@GraceNote Ah. Well. If you're full, you're full.

GnomeSlice

You mean like... mash them together?

Grace Note

11:08 PM

@RavenDreamer Yeah, that would be the end result

Raven Dreamer

@GnomeSlice Yes, but instead of simply adding them (which would simulate playing them simultaneously) I want to average them (to produce one new sound that)...

That's the same thing, innit.

Eff.

NEVERMIND.

I'm an idiot, is all.

GnomeSlice

Uh... I have no idea how you would do that. Maybe make one of them a filter?

Pyrodante

11:33 PM

would questions about playing the "SE game" be acceptable for this site?

mostly said in jest

Ullallulloo

@Pyrodante I think we actually got a meta topic on that...

Arda Xi

@Pyrodante Meta maybe.

Ullallulloo

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Q: Is Hat Dash a game?

Assuming I am an avid gamer, desiring to collect all the hats, treating the hat dash like a game. Is there any reason I couldn't discuss strategies for this game on gaming itself, or does the fact that it's being run on gaming make it "meta" even though it is a game, and different strategies mig...

discussion hatdash

GnomeSlice

Yoshimitsu is so freaking hard to use.

Raven Dreamer

@GnomeSlice Why not Voldo?

GnomeSlice

11:37 PM

Oh man, Yoshimitsu is dirty.

Wipqozn

11:50 PM

@GnomeSlice I started playing him in SCIV. He's a lot of fun once you learn how to play him.

OrigamiRobot

I wonder if @IanPugsley will respond to the allure of a ping sound.

Ian Pugsley

@OrigamiRobot eh?

OrigamiRobot

Exactly.

Grace Note

@Raven Hey, we got an opening for crazy PvP. You in now?

OrigamiRobot

Should mod-recs be allowed?

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Q: Minecraft Realistic Inventory Mod

Is there any kind of mod for Minecraft that makes your inventory more realistic? Something that would only allow for a specific amount of each item type. Something like this: Only being able to hold a small amount of tools or only one of each type Limited inventory space (ex: 2 rows of space) ...

minecraft

Brant

11:59 PM

Nope!

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