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18:00
I haven't really played TF2 in nearly a decade. That's scary
Saying that they don't affect the way you play just isn't true though
(I only really played for a few months after launch)
@GnomeSlice I didn't get a chance to try him. :(
I haven't played tf2 since January
@twobugs TF2 launched about 8 and a half years ago.
18:01
I may give TF2 another chance, now that I'm not on a laptop and crappy WiFi.
I'M SO BAD
i won with him against bots
@GnomeSlice stop feeding noob
I played 39.5 hours as a spy out of 120 hours played
Was hoping it would tell me when I last played, but no
@GnomeSlice git gud
@Sterno Really? I'm surprised.
Than again, I've played like 1500 as Spy out of 6000ish.
18:02
I've got something like 3-400 hours of engineer. And less than 60 of the other classes.
@GnomeSlice But seriously... MOBAs take a lot of practice. I usually pick a hero I like, and play no one else but them until I feel like I'm good enough to hold my own in a match.
@Powerlord Yeah, I guess that's right
I think my main issue with TF2 was that I couldn't find a class that I liked.
@MadMAxJr ...is it bad that I automatically assumed you played on 24/7 ctf_2fort or cp_dustbowl servers?
@GnomeSlice MOBAs have one of the steepest learning curves
18:03
@Powerlord 2fort is hell. I will occasionally enjoy dustbowl.
@Powerlord Surprised by what? That I played it that much, that little, or at all? I played medic a lot learning the game. Spy was hardest to learn so I tried it last. Loved it and didn't really play anything else after that.
Soldier and Heavy were the most fun I had with TF2
~It's beginning to look a lot like dustbowl~
Medic was great if you had good people to heal, not so much otherwise
@Sterno That your Spy percent was that high.
18:03
I wonder how many hours I spent playing Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory back in the day
@Powerlord I figured the only way to get good was to play it ALL THE TIME
I was almost mediocre by the time I quit!
@MadMAxJr I just thought those two because they tend to be the maps everyone plays Engineer on.
@twobugs This may have been my problem. I enjoyed the medic, but I never felt effective because my team would die so fast.
2fort is a cultural preservation map that needs to die. No map should have a single choke point for most classes.
@Fluttershy It's really one of those things where you just have to give all the classes a try. Also, some items do change how a class is played.
The BBC shop is closing down, so they're clearing stock with heavy discounts on everything bbcshop.com
18:05
While I didn't mention it, the 3 alternate mediguns do change how the Medic has to play a bit as well.
@Fluttershy find someone really good and pocket them
The Kritzkrieg isn't that much different until the Ubercharge, but the QuickFix makes a huge difference in playstyle even before its Uber.
0kills 7 deaths
I played medic in a few scrims with my friend. That was pretty cool
Oh. Bleh.. 228 hours engineer. Boo. Not as much as I had hoped
18:06
then you can keep them alive and learn by watching
Quick-Fix not only heals people faster, but if you're healing someone who does a sticky or rocket jump, the same jump force is applied to you.
I found engineer to be mind-numbingly boring.
Had a cool moment where I ubercharged and had to rocket jump off a sentry so my teammates could do things
(downside: It has a lower overheal)
Engineer is about playing the meta. What travel paths are in use? How do I place a sentry so that line of sight doesn't connect until the enemy is already in danger?
18:07
@Sterno the fun of engineering is that you kind of control what the team is doing where
people are chatting me now
"how have you died 7 times with a healer"
@badp On offense, definitely. Defense, less so.
@GnomeSlice o7 Godspeed.
"finish your fucking upgrades"
@badp Let me rephrase. On 2fort, I found engineer mind-numbingly boring
18:08
@MadMAxJr That's how I felt about Heavy. You were slow so you had to know where action was going
2fort is boring.
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You take control of your team by taking them where you want, healing them where you want, and building a defence where you want
@GnomeSlice WELCOME TO MOBA
@MadMAxJr QFT... starred for truth, too.
@Sterno pebkac
18:08
2fort, where the snipers never move and the scouts rain from the skies
If you like 2fort but it's too stalematey, give ctf_doublecross a try.
2fort was a decent idea that players ruined
I didn't particularly like 2fort. I was just new and didn't know better
And where engineers plant turrets immediately to the right of spawn, and have ALL TRAVEL PATHS ON LOCKDOWN.
@GnomeSlice I usually just reply with ":D" to everything.
18:09
why are ps4 players so fucking bad
" "
Iirc official competitive tf2 has a different version of 2fort
i cant chat on ps4 @Fluttershy
Also, if you died 7 times with a healer, sounds like your healer was bad.
Oh god you're bringing comp tf2 into this. That's like another game.
@twobugs Not... really. There's one location where you can place a sentry that can see every route down to the basement area where the intel is, but without having a clear shot to it Just reeks of bad design.
That spot is right next to the spawn room too, which means it's really easy to get a level 3 up there and keep it up.
18:10
@Powerlord I guess I meant more the symmetrical CTF map with a few smaller chokepoints and the water area
@Fluttershy you can't really do much about how you quickly you heal one person, if your pocket is reckless what you can do is change pockets
I forget what strict comp is. 2 soldier, 1 heavy, 1 medic, 2 scout?
It definitely didn't work too well in practice but players made it worse than it needed to be
@MadMAxJr that's why I said OFFICIAL comp
@MadMAxJr Demo, not heavy
18:10
Right, demo.
We're gamers. That's what we do.
Comp TF2 players: "What is this 'pyro' you speak of?"
But yeah, league 6v6 comp is basically 4 classes only.
I had a game of Blops3 where people camped so hard the game ran into the very generous time limit
i keep fighting a grux and godeon who are like 3 lv higher thab me
18:11
That made me mad. If EVERYONE camps the game is just atrocious
Your scouts check travel lanes and the rest of your team is a mobile firebase.
Official comp is more like ranked play
"idk how you can be so bad"
rather than the strictly defined 6v6/highlander formats
@GnomeSlice "I'm new to the game"
18:12
@GnomeSlice Just ignore or report them, don't respond
What game are you failing miserably at, @GnomeSlice?
@GnomeSlice That's another issue. You have a tanky melee and an AP carry, and your healer likely can't deal much damage in return.
MOBA communities are extremely toxic and horrible
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I haven't gotten into any of the stress tests, but I don't think the official comp will be all that fun if there aren't class restrictions.
I was hoping at least for a highlander mode...
@twobugs I think that's something everyone can agree on
Even with heals, you can't survive 2v1 against that kind of damage. Teammates should've suggested a lane swap.
18:13
Riot had to hire behavioral psychologists to specialize on improving community interactions
Lobbies contribute being a thing that exist
I'll be honest, as much as I'm talking about TF2 right now, I've actually talked about TF2 longer now than I've played in the last week.
@twobugs Again why I play HotS. :3
@twobugs Gaming communities are extremely toxic and horrible
...except for some MvM I did with friends.
18:13
MvM is a beast I still haven't fully figured out. The late rounds are tedious.
@Dragonrage Well, yeah. But MOBAs are the bottom of the barrel for community
@Powerlord now THAT'S quaint
@badp MvM is a lot easier now that you can respec every round.
I'm now #2 in Turkey on Online Slang in QuizUp!
18:15
"We'll carry you shitter"
@Powerlord Oh really? that's very nice.
@Powerlord cant chat on ps4 except canned messages
@GnomeSlice Honestly, just view these messages as a badge of honor
Whenever I want my daily dose of salt, I just go on the internet.
@Powerlord oh god, tell me we don't now have per-wave meta
18:18
im supposed to be a tank but grux can kill me in 5 seconds
@GnomeSlice Don't let it get to you. It's your first time playing the game, and bots are easier than people, usually. So it's easy to pick up bad habits against bots that you wouldn't have otherwise. Just view it as a learning experience.
I wonder what the next generation is. MOBA bots scripted to send text hate to new players?
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how does he keep killijg me
Hey guys [Player.hero] is performing [Player.status.insultversion], should we [eval(Game.drop())]?
@MadMAxJr I'm already working on one for voice chat on COD.
(disclaimer: not really, but might look into)
18:22
@GnomeSlice are you playing on ps4?
@MadMAxJr That's how GLaDOS began...
Thank you for your participation in the Aperture lane-based object movement test.
Please pick a robot and some box handling equipment.
Proceed down a lane. You'll know when the test begins.
@Chippies yes
@GnomeSlice lame
also @Fluttershy when I first saw your JELLY comment I didn't know what to think, but at your second message it became clear that you wanted your personal private meeting with the goddesses and their convenient tear-apart dresses :P #self-insertion
hey I'm not judging! :P
18:26
Wasn't there a GlaDOS voiceover for DOTA2?
Okay half the star list is Trumped. Statements of how horrible things are or can be horrible.
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@MadMAxJr you are part of the problem
@badp I was mostly just screaming internally because I didn't even know that was releasing on Steam, and if I had, would have saved money to buy it when it was discounted. Now I wouldn't have been able to afford it until it was full price. X_x But thank you again. I can either repay you, or pay it forward, whichever you would prefer!
@Chippies why?
I feel like @badp and @Fluttershy are dealing anime drugs
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Hey, anime is good.
18:29
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Q: Can you tame a rabbit?

DodgerthedooogI have watched a few David videos and have noticed he has this pet rabbit. It follows him around and hops when he hops. I was wondering if it's possible to tame a rabbit.

@twobugs Anime pantsu, actually.
@Fluttershy there are a couple more NepNep side games in the pipeline before VII but Chief of NepNep Operations SirTapTap says this should be the least worst
@badp “When The Bridge sends its people, they’re not sending the best. They’re not sending you … they’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing poor questions. They’re bringing downvotes. They’re starbaiters. And some, I assume, are good people.”
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18:29
@Fluttershy #domesticuviolencu
Ah, NepNep
@badp I need to prod him more about future NepNep stuff.
I need to beat NepNep1 and advance to NepNep2
I have managed to not buy NepNep3 yet
@twobugs you know what to stream tonight!!
j/k
Myself playing WoW? Okay @badp, since you insist...
18:30
It's not a very good stream game
@twobugs yes please that sounds like an interesting trip into all of the decisions that seemed good ten or so years ago
@badp What?
I don't think anyone, least of all myself, wants me to stream my raid :P
@twobugs but I insisted and you said it was okay!
liar liar pantsu 'n fire
If you mess with another man's pantsu you're in for a beating
18:36
we won
guess they "carried my faggot ass"
@ardaozkal you mean there's one Nep game WITHOUT fan service
My fanservice standarts are high.
both 1 and 2 have a faux-bondage scene in the first five minutes, yknow
The ones before were ok, this one is good.
...This is a conversation I'm very glad I can only see part of.
18:38
@twobugs you indeed are only half ignorant
I just want to be home playing Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus while NepNep installs. ;-;
@GnomeSlice because I was considering buying the game and having people I know playing it would be nice
@Chippies You can cross play I think
@Chippies its cross platform
That's what is happening to @GnomeSlice right now
18:38
complete with parties
And he can't even defend himself
Ah yes I remember a friend gifting me nepnep1.
@GnomeSlice what? really? :o
I did not know that
more reason to consider buying it then...
Meh, I don't really have any hope for any traditional MOBA
Overwatch looks like it has a good balance between MOBA and not-MOBA for me
I avoid MOBAs because the communities just seem so toxic
18:41
@Chippies Yesh, uses EPIC account
Oh @Chippies it's a shame you never got to experience the MOBA adventure in Wildstar. That was pretty cool
@SaintWacko They can be fun with friends, but solo queueing is awful
is Overwatch planned to be released on XbOne?
I find it weird that Visual Studio 2015 Update 1 creates ASP.NET 4.5.2 web projects using a version of Microsoft.Net.Compilers that is older than the latest one.
@Chippies PS4/PC/XBONE
You'd think the latest VS version would create them with the latest.
18:41
@twobugs The only MOBA I ever played was Heroes of Newerth when I was drunk with friends one time
Maybe it only uses the newer ones for an ASP.NET 5 project.
We all installed it and started playing
@twobugs the purchase thingy only lists PC and PS4 right now
Why, oh why, do university students insist on gathering around the crazy preacher dude?
so I guess XBONE is getting added later?
18:42
cc @Unionhawk
I felt so bad for the other people on our team
or just unavailable through their website?
I've known friendships that ended with MOBA games where the drunk level was uneven among players
Questions:
1) Why is a patch for The Division 1.5gb?
B) Why didn't Steam download it until I got home?
iii) Why isn't DOTT installed either, so I could play that while I wait?
@Sterno B) because it was probably pushed through uplay, instead of steam, maybe?
18:43
@twobugs Monday Night Combat was almost that for me, but then Uber Entertainment killed it off and brought out Super Monday Night Combat that tipped things too far back towards the MOBA side.
@Chippies Dunno, but they listed stuff for it for and just released a new trailer on XBONE
Wow. DOTT is 2.2 GB
@Chippies probably not.
@Powerlord Yeah I've really heard only bad things about that dev. People seem to agree that they have no idea how to manage their games
Someone please ask a "What is a MOBA?" question to start some drama
18:44
@Sterno i thought there was one
Oh. Boo.
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Q: What does MOBA really mean and what characterizes games that belong to that genre?

OakI've lately heard the term Multiplayer Online Battle Arena (MOBA) used as a video game genre. The Wikipedia entry redirects to the "Defense of the Ancients" genre, hinting that this is used exclusively to describe DotA-like games (e.g. creeps, lanes, heroes, towers etc. etc.) However, I've also ...

How did that avoid the usual drama?
@Sterno Well, yeah. The 256-color 320x240 8-bit 8-11khz sound version was 100MB, the 16 million color 1920x1080 24-bit, 48khz sound version is going to be quite a bit bigger.
@Sterno 2011, probably
Also beats me why The Division patch, which is just shifting some numbers around, is 1.5gb. That's strange.
(or was the original version 200MB? I'll have to check my SCUMMVM directory or find the CD and check)
@twobugs Oh, yeah. @fbueckert wasn't a user then.
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18:45
@twobugs It's a lot of numbers
@twobugs Is it made by the people who make PayDay?
You guys are mean
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@Powerlord Nah, by the people who made the older Rainbow Six games
Goddamn Media Markt
@twobugs We aren't mean, we are just are good at character building
@twobugs I asked because the PayDay guys never grasped the concept of binary patching or shipping things that aren't huge blobs of binary data, so patching it basically replaces one or more large files every time something changes.
18:47
Is there some place with decent headphone reviews?
I thought I'd grab something mkbhd recommended but not even a single brand of those he shortlisted is here
@Powerlord Their whole development cycle is a trainwreck.
(this is a gift)
They should have stopped and worked on '3' by now.
Believe it or not, this is one of the things Valve actually got right.
@Sterno It's never too late to start!
18:49
Files that change a lot are separate, other files are in split archives that can have additional files added to them later and have their index files updated.
@Wipqozn It's never too late to amputate.
@Powerlord see also: zsync
The only time I can think of where TF2 in particular didn't just update files in a split archive is when they outright replaced the wav voice-over files with mp3 voice-over files.
(I don't know if Valve users zsync)
Any help with a decent headphone website?
I never use them but it's what I have to gift, so I'm kind of at a loss
@badp you mean like this one?
@Chippies if you can endorse it
@badp well, I have read a few reviews there and it is a reputable and popular website for headphone enthusiasts
@Powerlord I remember one time a patch hit and the update size was the size of the entire game
18:54
I'm just not sure what you mean by a "decent headphone website"
@Chippies I mean basically that
if you want news and reviews then head-fi is the website for you
Yeah I just want to plug in product names and see what's the least worst
@Yuuki This makes me more interested in Winston.
18:55
> "demanding a mere four bitcoins in exchange for a key"
I love how they say a "mere" four bitcoins before going further to elaborate that it's actually $1,600 USD.
Is @GnomeSlice still playing Paragon? Or did his jerk team put him off of the genre?
@Yuuki That's chump change for a hospital
That's like... Me going there for the flu.
Or a steroid booster to fight an allergic reaction.
@Sterno Every money goes somewhere, scammers getting a part of it is never good.
(which I'm still paying for, two years later)
19:04
@ardaozkal That is irrelevant to the usage of the word "mere"
Yes, mere was used incorrectly.
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Q: How can I disable offline dino starvation?

EnigmaI have a server that I want to leave on 24/7 but my whole tribe has been offline for months so I shut it down to save the dinos. There is a "Food Drain" setting in "Dino Settings" which can technically be set to '0' but I'm not sure what affect that will have on taming. Is there some combinatio...

@badp steamcommunity.com/app/387340/screenshots is 1/2/3 even close to these?
@Unionhawk From what I've heard, nearly every PayDay (1 or 2) patch is like this.
Man, I really need to finish FFEX before Hyrule Warriors Legends comes out
I'm just disappointed because while you do have a lot of customization and flexibility in FFEX the combat is ultimately a lot more shallow
And the bosses suck
Which is a real crime in a hunting game
19:19
Help! I can't stop compulsively hitting F1 to switch between DOTTs original and remastered graphics
@ardaozkal I feel like that should've had an nsfw warning
@Sterno unbinds F1
Oh. The game crashed. I guess it helped me
@Chippies we are talking about nepnep, you should expect NSFW stuff anyways! (real reason: Can't edit now, can you add a nsfw warning @badpai?)
now = out of time
I'm disappointed that the music in Remastered is apparently not the music that was created for the remake LucasArts Singapore was working on.
19:22
@ardaozkal I personally don't care, I just know there are people who would kick up a fuss about it, and rightfully so
Also, is it just me or did the people who did the LucasArts logo music forget that converting from Roland MT-32 to MIDI means you have to issue a pitch bend controller NRPN to increase the pitch shift from 2 semitones to 12 semitones as that's what MT-32 uses?
I probably got way too technical for people there.
I have no idea what you just said
I just heard static
@Powerlord Oh yeah. Definitely
oh wait
I actually get what he is talking about.
19:25
@twobugs It's supposed to pitch bend an entire octave during the LucasArts logo at the start of the game. DotT's original music was written on the Roland MT-32, for which an entire spin of the wheel is an octave.
However, General MIDI defaults to only 1/6 of an octave for an entire spin of the pitch bend wheel.
Interesting... didn't Double Fine do this remaster, though? ... Don't they claim to be the original creators?
I mean, I'm not really shocked Double Fine made mistakes
@twobugs Tim Schafer, the guy who owns Double Fine, was one of the original directors of Day of the Tentacle.
Tim Schafer is also a dumb jerk who got owned really hard by Bobby Kotick, which is impressive.
@twobugs ?
@ardaozkal bait not taken
19:28
There's a quote exchange about Brutal Legend. It was originally being published by Activision, but they cancelled it. Schafer said Kotick was "the evil emperor" or something weird like that
Brutal Legend was a beautiful game that didn't know what it wanted to be.
Kotick just had this super reasonable response "They missed every deadline, and what they had to show was really lackluster so we cancelled it."
"I don't know why he is insulting me, I never even met the guy"
If you make Kotick look reasonable, you've gone too far
By the way, this is the opening track that was done for the LucasArts Singapore Day of the Tentacle remake that got canceled.
Isn't DoubleFine also responsible for Spacebase DF-9?
@MadMAxJr Yes.
(Incidentally, I got that mp3 from a person whose name appears in the credits for both Monkey Island special editions, so...)
19:30
A very pretty 'pick a star system' screen, then glitchy mess.
Pay us money. Pick a star system. We're not going to finish the game, smell ya later!
@twobugs who needs a star system when you have a star list
The fact that they cancelled an Early Access game, a game still in development (AKA THE TIME WHERE GAMES DON'T MAKE MONEY) for "Not making enough money" is...
Im garbage at this
No, you just need to spend thousands of hours playing MOBAs before you get decent
19:34
no kills this game either
That's how it works
Most of the time when you're new at a competitive game, you're at a disadvantage.
i got kills online my firstgame with howie
like 4
0-11 currently
which game are you playing @GnomeSlice
@Dragonrage the moba by epic
19:35
If you want to be good at MOBA you have to go back in time, play the original DOTA, learn which variants of the map were most influential, play those, then get good. Then only play MOBA games as they release and nothing else.
hmm i may have to look at it. i have HotS and LoL
@Sterno By the way, did you see what I said yesterday about the computer in Weird Ed's room giving you access to the original Maniac Mansion?
HotS is the easy version of mobas
try out gigantic too
HotS: Doing poorly in your lane? Play the map objective!
19:37
My only gripe with that is there doesn't seem to be a way to save in Maniac Mansion... you have to wait for it to auto-save.
Sucking at the map objective? Go back and lane while others fight over the objective!
This is also bad as certain actions can make the game uncompletable.
HotS: the MOBA on training wheels.
gogigantic.com/en < You can register for the private beta here. I already have a key, but I used it.
@twobugs Fighting words. That's what these are. How dare you, sir. How. Dare. You. :<
19:38
Fairly nice training wheels.
@Fluttershy I'll never forgive him for making me respect Kotick
I'm supposed to be working on some map editor controls or looking into write AngularJS apps and instead I'm talking here in chat.
You guys are a bad influence on me.
remind me to stream gigantic tomorro.
> EF does not support migrations or code-first creation with Postgres
Ew
19:40
@Powerlord A prophunt map that is visual studio and everyone is a codeblock.
Was going to create a test WebAPI app using Entity Framework against a PostgreSQL backend, but no code first?
@MadMAxJr +1 I'd play that.
(AngularJS was going to talk to said app)
AngularJS sounds like it's at risk for HoundsOfTindalosJS
@MadMAxJr I'm not completely sold on AngularJS as it means you're now relying on web services to do what a controller would normally do in a standard web application.
19:44
@Powerlord Yeah, I knew that from the original. I just never got around to playing MM
It's weird... Feels like you're writing database calls on an HTML page.
Bleh, I hate building complex HTML by hand but Dojo's library for it always gives me even more trouble
@twobugs And that's probably fine. But calling him a dumb jerk, when he's probably one of the nicest devs in the industry, is a bit harsh. :(
Also, I hate that enter sends now, instead of dropping to another line.
Eh, he made some games I really like but I have't been impressed with him at all recently. Maybe he isn't a bad guy and calling him a "jerk" is too harsh
@Fluttershy Hasn't it always done that? You need to hit shift+enter for a new line.
19:47
@twobugs Personally, I think the successes of Broken Age and Massive Chalice are pretty impressive for the studio.
@Powerlord I forgot to specify mobile chat.
Massive Chalice I'll grant you, but Broken Age seemed like people just gave Tim too much leeway. Game went massively overbudget and was still broken into two parts
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Q: New Elytra doesn't work after jump

HardnerPLHey i have problem with new Elytra. When i JUMP off the edge, than jump in mid-air it actives instantly only sometimes, in different cases it actives after falling about 40 blocks and / or clicking space hundreds of times... but if i WALK off the edge it always actives.

@Fluttershy Oh, I've never used mobile chat. Maybe I should since I finally entered the modern age and got a smartphone.
@twobugs And was still a fantastic game.
That's the part people seem to forget.
He just strikes me as a very good argument for why we still need publishers - to reign people like him in. Not saying publishers are perfect, but that's not sustainable business.
19:49
@twobugs But... He's a publisher. <_<
I'm not disputing the quality of the game, I just don't have too much sympathy for someone who goes 10x over asked for budget
@Fluttershy Well yes, now he self publishes, but that's kind of my point :P
@twobugs Not just that. Double Fine publishes games for people now, too.
@twobugs what do you use to not "make complex html by hand"? I need something like that to redesign a few websites of mine.
If they can succeed, that's good for them. I'm not satisfied as an outside observer with how they've handled stuff recently (particularly Spacebase DF-9)
There :P
He's not as bad as the ex lionhead guy
19:52
@djsmiley2k Peter Molyneux isn't a person so much as a collection of lies
@djsmiley2k Peter Molyneux?
yah him
Also, I just realized that I was writing a web app and was going to try testing it when it was done on a Linux server... for an app that uses .NET.
Yeeeah no.
Try mono.
@ardaozkal This is an ASP.NET 4.5.2 app, not sure it'd work on Mono.
Although it makes me wonder if .NET Core has been ported over to Linux yet.
19:56
mono supports asp.net
My internet is so damn slow atm (damn nepnep killing my interwebz) so I can't link it.
holy shit
the xbox controller gives the latest Windows 10 build a literal gray screen of death
@badp Ouch.
Makes me wonder if the controller needs a firmware update
@twobugs immediately when you plug it your whole session and window manager die
@badp wat
@Powerlord is that even a thing for wired controllers?
19:58
This is going to be very fun for me when they push that out
Oh wired
@badp Xbox One doesn't have wired controllers.
xbox 360 controller.
He must be using wired 360
@badp u wot
Oh, well firmware updates are an Xbox One controller thing, the Xbox 360 controllers don't have them
19:59
didn't you read the logs?
@ardaozkal if only they weren't so GOD DAMN HIDDEN
whenever a windows insider build gets shipped instead of information about the build all I get is

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